RE: CF vs. .NET presentations?
Phillip, Well written. I agree 100%. John -Original Message- From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? Steve, Let me start by saying I have been with CF since 1996. I've recently learned .NET via C# as well. The resemblance of C# to Java is remarkable which made the learning curve much faster for me. However, I must agree with you and also add that ASP.NET 2.0 is faster / requires less hardware to host the same ap. It has built in enterprise session capability that allows your SQL database to track your session state and much more. After about 6 months of learning / using .NET, I don't see myself using ColdFusion as a recommended middleware for large scale sites or clients that are on a budget. The company that I work for HAD the highest traffic ColdFusion site on the planet. Here is a situation similar to mine: http://members.microsoft.com/CustomerEvidence/Common/FileOpen.aspx?FileNam e= 10625_ComputerJobs_bizversion_300k.wvx The thing that I don't agree with that CJ.com said was about the number of developers it took to maintain the sites pre / post conversion. They must have had some code org. issues, because that has been the same for us. Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall for CF unless Adobe adopts a DRAMATIC pricing reduction strategy. Plain and simply put, with .NET and Mono in the market, CF can no longer increase market share whilst continuing to maintain / increase their pricing. They're not the only game in town and they need to start acting like it. I pains me to write this publicly about CF. So please no flames. I hate it just as much as the next CF'er. However, I am relieved that I have finally learned .NET because the .NET to CF job ratio is about 100:1 at least. Holding on exclusively to a versus mentality will only hurt yourself in the end. --Phil === -Original Message- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? I use ASP.NET quite a bit, and while I'd still give CF a slight edge in development speed, the gap has closed tremendously since the days of original ASP. Now that ASP.NET has a top-notch visual designer, there are times when coding an ASP.NET application can be even faster than CF - given that the programmers knowledge of both is equal. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? Is the argument that development in CF is quicker then in .NET still valid - when comparing latest to latest - anyone expert on say Asp.Net ... I just know VB myself, TK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254913 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Does that mean you will never use visual studio too? John McKown -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Rick, Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't give me the level of control I desire, and it is far to easy for me to open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. WYSIWYG, to me, has always meant 'messy bloat code', as the editors always seem to overdo what is necessary. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think many of the CodeWarriors on this list would agree, which is why we steer clear of WYSIWYG for development. I've had to 'clean' far too many templates some designer created in DW to ever even think about using it myself, for anything. I personally think that CFEclipse is an outstanding product, and will get even better over time. I know from conversations with Mark Drew that there are plans for working on the search/find/replace tools, and he has discussed possibly tying in with the UML modeling tools of Calisto to possibly create CFC stub code from UML models. My $.02 Cutter _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the feedback, Denny... However, as a visual developer, I think it speaks volumes that no one on this list (apparently) uses the MyEclipse Visual Plug-in. Something must be lacking...and I don't want to go to a pure code environment. Seems like a waste of time to hand code a bunch of HTML for basic structure of a page. But you're right that the price is right! $40 or so annually for the professional version is great! It would take about 10 years to pay for DW at that rate...and I get all the updates / upgrades as part of the subscription! :o) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253046 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Project Management Software
We built our own and we use it for web design. It is all built in ColdFusion and Fusebox and we call it Team-Logic. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. -Original Message- From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Project Management Software Does anyone currently use a windows based software program that tracks the life a project and can also handle daily time sheets for employees so an administrator can track what each employee does all day. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:250409 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anyone else affected by the hostmysite outage?
A fiber cut can happen to any hosting business. And if you are in business for a long period of time, it will happen to you at some point. So in that regard, I feel bad for the HostMySite customers and their employees. It has happened to us many years ago. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.delaware.net Direct: 302-346-2770 Phone: 302-736-5515 x100 Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 Fax: 302-736-5945 ICQ: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Anyone else affected by the hostmysite outage? One of their datacenters has been chopped from the net buy a construction accident. Anyone else affected? Feed-Squirrel's gone for the time being... -- Neil Middleton Visit feed-squirrel.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:250423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
database linking table naming conventions?
Imagine these two database tables: Users and Groups You want a Foreign Key table to link them together (or what I call a linking table) that might be named UserGroups. But UserGroups as a table name itself does not stand out in the table list because it does not use a prefixed naming convention (something I like about Fusebox on the web side). Examples table names might be: LT_Users_Groups or FK_Users_Groups. Is there an understood standard there? Also, the order of the table names might need to be taken into account based on where the foreign keys are. Thoughts? John McKown ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237762 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Experience with ADP for Car Dealerships?
I am wondering if anyone has experience getting vehicle data out of ADP. If you don't know what ADP is then the answer is no. If you do, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. We Host Fusebox ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236955 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Faster FTP and DW8 Synch for Windoze Servers
Our Linux boxes are insanely fast for FTP and synching DW8 sites, but when we synchronize on Windoze it is painfully slower. Same hardware. Good hardware too. Any suggestions for a FAST Windoze FTP server? John McKown ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235262 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Faster FTP and DW8 Synch for Windoze Servers
Yes I am sure that it is not a firewall. John McKown President, CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. 888-432-7965 -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Faster FTP and DW8 Synch for Windoze Servers John McKown wrote: Our Linux boxes are insanely fast for FTP and synching DW8 sites, but when we synchronize on Windoze it is painfully slower. Same hardware. Good hardware too. Any suggestions for a FAST Windoze FTP server? Are you sure it is caused by the FTP server and not by a firewall set to stealth or something? Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235265 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OOP, why me?
Knowing where those files are, knowing what they are named automatically, and other benefits of frameworks outweighs the argument about opening multiple files. John McKown President, CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. 888-432-7965 -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OOP, why me? Gareth, I'm in the same boat you are. Especially after reading a blog entry by a prominent figure in the CF community, where the complaint was given that simple changes to a framework based site were /not/ simple. You had to modify a few different files just to make a simple change. Kind of goes against the makes modifications easier argument. The biggest reasons I see for using frameworks are: -code reuse -flexibility -maintainability -documented code I can make my applications adhere to the above principles, /without/ using a framework. However, I'm eagerly awaiting any responses from the framework crowd, as I'm still sitting on the fence. -Original Message- From: Gareth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OOP, why me? I'm the sort of person who likes to understand why I'm doing something rather than just do it. If I download a UDF I analyse it and try to learn rather than just stick it into my app and smile because it's worked. With that in mind, I wonder if someone could explain to me in super simple, beginer speak, layman terms what Object Oriented Programming means in terms of CF and why I should use it? My very basic understanding is that you have different 'layers' to perform different tasks, so when someone visits mygroovyform.cfm the processing behind the form is not done on the form page itself but passed to another page which then passes back the results. The back end processing is then done using components (cfc's). I know that's a very simplified explanation but hopefully it's true in principle. I've written a few very simple CFC's more for the sake of it than because I understood the need. The main arguments I've heard for using this approach is that it's good for code re-use and promotes clean coding. But what I can't get my head around is why? I mean, code isn't necessarily unclean because it's not built using this approach and can't code just as easily be reused using a cfmodule or even a cfinclude? I've also heard it's good in a multi-developer environment, but I'm only me so perhaps there isn't a practical reason for me to learn it at all? I've read a lot on the subject and I'd like to read more but it's difficult to enthuse myself without understanding what the real end benefit is. scratches_headModel glue, mach ii, fusebox, etc. I'm sure there's a bloody good reason for 'em but what is it?/scratches_head Words of wisdom / good reading (including book recommendations) most appreciated. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234286 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OOP, why me?
That is just a way to create artificial job security. Rules is another word for standards. The standards are loose enough that you can modify them. Without standards, there would be no Internet, no POP3, etc. Frameworks can eliminate spaghetti code that is inevitable when 4 different developers all code with their own style on the same site. Frameworks promote team-based programming. If you always code alone, then you are right. You don't need them. John McKown President, CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. 888-432-7965 -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OOP, why me? The biggest reasons I see for using frameworks are: -code reuse -flexibility -maintainability -documented code Well, IMHO these are just clichés. - code reuse? I don't see what in non framework application makes reusing any code any more difficult. - Flexibility? Framework means rules, how can rules add flexibilty? - Maintainability? By someone who knows the framework, may be, but for other (most of the time), it is like hell. - documented code? Any code should be documented, in a framework or not. Frameworks do not create documentation. Anyway, any experienced programer will end up with his own way to design applications, this is some kind of a framework, and it is the best one, because it is HIS. Gee I'm using a framework, and I didn't even know about it ;-) -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234287 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
Wow that is awesome. Thank you Sean. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Sean Corfield wrote: On 2/11/06, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is mention on that site that MM is backing them now, but the updates look stale on the site, and once again there is the issue of momentum. A new, unified site will be rolled out soon. We have most of the infrastructure in place on a new host: content management, bug tracking, wiki, forums, subversion. We are ready to migrate the database content off the old site (which is proving the sticking point) and then we need to reskin the non-FarCry parts of the site, migrate the old wiki content and move the source code from the old CVS host to the new SVN repository. The intent is to have all CFEclipse content and source access in one place and to close down the Tigris site. Work is also progressing on RDS support, as has been mentioned once or twice on various blogs. So, sorry the content looks a little stale but we are working on things behind the scenes... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232168 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
I agree that the pricing needs to be more obvious. Flex 1 was like Spectra. The call for a quote on the MM web site just to get a price is a major turnoff. It just kills the momentum of a platform before it even gets started. And lets face it, MM has a track record of doing that (as man other large companies do). Flex 2 is pretty exciting and so is the pricing model (what has been eluded to so far) and the use of open tools (Eclipse), is also good. I wonder if endorsing Eclipse which will hurt Dreamweaver sales to coders. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox, ColdFusion, and BlueDragon compliant. John C. Bland II wrote: Ahh...I didn't know that. It isn't in the best position though. I have to read sentences to figure it out. Flex 2 + Flex Builder 2.0...$999.99 Flex 2 Enterprise Services Limited...Free Flex 2 Enterprise Services Full$2.50 :-) (is this close to right?) Lists always work better than having to read because sentences require interpretation. These are simply my opinions and could totally be wrong. On 2/9/06, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/9/06, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a (suggested or in stone) pricing page on Labs so folks looking to download can check it out. The pricing information is already on labs: http://labs.macromedia.com/technologies/flexbuilder2/ - Product Details: How much will Flex Builder 2.0 cost? Flex Builder 2.0, which includes a license for the Flex Framework, will be licensed on a per seat basis, similar to other integrated development environments. Final pricing is not yet available, but Flex Builder 2.0 will be sold for less than $1000 per developer. Will existing Flex customers get Flex Builder 2.0? Starting with the Flex 2.0 releases, Flex Builder will be licensed separately from Flex Enterprise Services. At that time, existing Flex customers with current maintenance contracts will receive an appropriate number of Flex Builder 2.0 licenses as part of their agreement. For more details, please contact your sales representative. http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:SDK_Announcement New - Free Flex Software Development Kit Free SDK Along with beta 1 we are announcing that the Flex Framework will be made available free of charge through the Flex Software Development Kit, which will include the command line compiler and documentation required to develop, compile, and deploy Flex applications that connect to XML and SOAP web services with no additional charges or server licensing required. We also plan to make Flex Enterprise Services 2.0 free of charge for use by a limited number of concurrent users on a single, non-clustered server. Together, these free offerings bring the industries most powerful cross-platform RIA technology within reach of very every developer and every project. Here's how I found those paragraphs: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:labs.macromedia.com+pricing -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232039 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
I can't speak for MM, but I think it obvious that they will endorse Eclipse for coders definitely. We are all moving away from DW at our office and installing CFEclipse (www.cfeclipse.org). There is mention on that site that MM is backing them now, but the updates look stale on the site, and once again there is the issue of momentum. Makes me worry that cfeclipse might lose momentum if it is only managed by a few people. There has to be more in the works there. DW will be around for a while for those that use the automated MM code stuff, which we shun. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Aaron Rouse wrote: I was wondering if it might mean we will eventually see them replace DW with something built on Eclipse, at least for CFM dev work. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232041 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
The videos are neat on the labs site, and it really does look powerful, but until they release pricing information (did I miss it somewhere?) then I won't even consider it. With the pressure Ajax is putting on things, Adober had better get the pricing figured out soon if Flex is ever to get decent developer mindshare. $15K was a joke for Flex1. Will it be dramatically different for Flex 2? Review of Flex 1 saying that MM isFlex expensive and that MM has a bad track record: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/macromedia_flex_and_flex_builder/ And another: http://www.lordalex.org/2004/12/macromedia-flex-is-it-really-flexible.php Anyone know what the pricing is going to be? I don't know how folks can get excited about it without this information. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Judith Dinowitz wrote: Ben Forta is doing a tour promoting Flex 2 and ColdFusion, and I really think people should contact their local user group, find out when he's going to be there, and go. (Details are available on http://www.forta.com.) I'd like to invite anyone in the New York area to come to the NYCFUG Meeting on Tuesday, February 21st, at 6:30 PM. Seating is limited, so please RSVP at http://www.nycfug.org as early as possible. Attend this presentation (or one in your local area) to learn about the new Flex, as well as the new ColdFusion integration functionality, which will make ColdFusion an ideal back-end for Flex. Flex 2 is on the way, and this is your invitation to be one of the first to experience the future of rich Internet application development. A lot has changed in Flex 2, and you can read more about it on http://labs.macromedia.com/. With new pricing options, new deployment options, new back-end integration options, and a slew of new features, Flex 2 is going to change the way we build applications. And for ColdFusion developers, there has never been a better time to experience it. When? Tuesday, February 21st, 2006, 6:30 PM (the third Tuesday of the month) Where? NYU Medical Center, 550 1st Avenue (corner of E. 31st Street) Room: Alumni Hall A A copy of ColdFusion 7 Standard will be raffled off to one lucky attendee! We will be ordering food. Please RSVP on our site (http://www.nycfug.org) so that we can plan accordingly. Judith Dinowitz Co-Manager New York ColdFusion User Group (NYCFUG)http://www.nycfug.org ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231803 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
Thanks for that link. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Ryan Guill wrote: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/cantrell/archives/2006/01/clarifying_the.cfm On 2/9/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only confusing part is if you need to use the messaging service, which you will need the flex server for. Otherwise you don't need the flex server anymore, flex builder (which you wont even really need if you want to compile the apps in command line) just helps write and compiles the app then its deployed to the server like any other flash swf, we have discussed it on here several times... ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways! From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:18 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: OT: ColdFusion and Flex That's where the confusion will come from, Flex Builder will be less than 1000k, but that on it's own isn't Flex. If there isn't a page already, Adobe should create a short, non-marketing speak page that people can be directed to explaining what the deal is. I know it's not out yet but there's already interest and disinterest based on the alpha and beta and pricing comments so far. Adrian -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 February 2006 20:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex flex is supposed to now be $1000 ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways! From: John McKown Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex The videos are neat on the labs site, and it really does look powerful, but until they release pricing information (did I miss it somewhere?) then I won't even consider it. With the pressure Ajax is putting on things, Adober had better get the pricing figured out soon if Flex is ever to get decent developer mindshare. $15K was a joke for Flex1. Will it be dramatically different for Flex 2? Review of Flex 1 saying that MM isFlex expensive and that MM has a bad track record: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/macromedia_flex_and_flex_builder/ And another: http://www.lordalex.org/2004/12/macromedia-flex-is-it-really-flexible.php Anyone know what the pricing is going to be? I don't know how folks can get excited about it without this information. John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Judith Dinowitz wrote: Ben Forta is doing a tour promoting Flex 2 and ColdFusion, and I really think people should contact their local user group, find out when he's going to be there, and go. (Details are available on http://www.forta.com.) I'd like to invite anyone in the New York area to come to the NYCFUG Meeting on Tuesday, February 21st, at 6:30 PM. Seating is limited, so please RSVP at http://www.nycfug.org as early as possible. Attend this presentation (or one in your local area) to learn about the new Flex, as well as the new ColdFusion integration functionality, which will make ColdFusion an ideal back-end for Flex. Flex 2 is on the way, and this is your invitation to be one of the first to experience the future of rich Internet application development. A lot has changed in Flex 2, and you can read more about it on http://labs.macromedia.com/. With new pricing options, new deployment options, new back-end integration options, and a slew of new features, Flex 2 is going to change the way we build applications. And for ColdFusion developers, there has never been a better time to experience it. When? Tuesday, February 21st, 2006, 6:30 PM (the third Tuesday of the month) Where? NYU Medical Center, 550 1st Avenue (corner of E. 31st Street) Room: Alumni Hall A A copy of ColdFusion 7 Standard will be raffled off to one lucky attendee! We will be ordering food. Please RSVP on our site (http://www.nycfug.org) so that we can plan accordingly. Judith Dinowitz Co-Manager New York ColdFusion User Group (NYCFUG)http://www.nycfug.org ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231837 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex
Nice Google skills. Already got the answer. Thanks though. John McKown Sean Corfield wrote: On 2/9/06, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a (suggested or in stone) pricing page on Labs so folks looking to download can check it out. The pricing information is already on labs: http://labs.macromedia.com/technologies/flexbuilder2/ - Product Details: How much will Flex Builder 2.0 cost? Flex Builder 2.0, which includes a license for the Flex Framework, will be licensed on a per seat basis, similar to other integrated development environments. Final pricing is not yet available, but Flex Builder 2.0 will be sold for less than $1000 per developer. Will existing Flex customers get Flex Builder 2.0? Starting with the Flex 2.0 releases, Flex Builder will be licensed separately from Flex Enterprise Services. At that time, existing Flex customers with current maintenance contracts will receive an appropriate number of Flex Builder 2.0 licenses as part of their agreement. For more details, please contact your sales representative. http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:SDK_Announcement New - Free Flex Software Development Kit Free SDK Along with beta 1 we are announcing that the Flex Framework will be made available free of charge through the Flex Software Development Kit, which will include the command line compiler and documentation required to develop, compile, and deploy Flex applications that connect to XML and SOAP web services with no additional charges or server licensing required. We also plan to make Flex Enterprise Services 2.0 free of charge for use by a limited number of concurrent users on a single, non-clustered server. Together, these free offerings bring the industries most powerful cross-platform RIA technology within reach of very every developer and every project. Here's how I found those paragraphs: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:labs.macromedia.com+pricing -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231863 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cftry and cfcatch
Sounds like you do not want TRY/CATCH... that is triggered on a failure. You really want to use CFSWITCH/CFCASE. -- John McKown President, Delaware.Net ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. John Lucania wrote: I have two queries: cfquery name=checksrv datasource=master SELECT @@SERVICENAME; /cfquery cfquery name=checkage datasource=master SELECT count (program_name) FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses WITH (NOLOCK) WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%' /cfquery I want to be notified through cfmail if 1) query checksrv doesn't return MSSQLSERVER then, MSSQLSERVER not returned in cfmail or query checkage doesn't return 2 then, Agent not returned 2 in cfmail or both of checksrv and checkage don't return then, MSSQLSERVER not returned and Agent not returned 2 in cfmail or 2) query checksrv cannot be run then, MSSQLSERVER Not Avail in cfmail or query checkage cannot be run then, Agent Not Avail in cfmail or both of checksrv and checkage cannot be run then, MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and Agent Not Avail in cfmail. Any ideas? tia, jl ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231703 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: sending mass emails
We send even more than that, because we have been working on a CF powered Constant Contact killer. It prolly sends 100K per day. Four years ago AOL got tough and started to block IP RANGES based on volume of messages. Breaking them up into batches is the only way to go. I recommend less than 10K per domain name. You can always use multiple domain names and IP ranges though ;) John McKown President, Delaware.Net We host Fusebox.org and all of our apps are Fusebox/ColdFusion/BlueDragon compliant. Russ wrote: We use 1000 every 2 minutes... send 30k plus per day... -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: sending mass emails yes thats why I am trickling them out, their old site sent them all out at once. ~Dave the disruptor~ I forgot what I was gunna put here, Will woulda stole it anyways! From: Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:26 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: sending mass emails Are you worried about getting tagged as a spammer because of the volume? Just wondering , I didn't know that sort of stat showed up on the spam filters. gotta send out 26,000 emails to a mailing list (dont worry it ain't sp*m) Made an email trickler to send them out in bursts. Does anyone have any current info on whats safe to send out at a time? # of messages per burst and time inbetween bursts. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231357 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Anyone use AbleCommerce, CFMX version?
AbleCommerce itself was what forced us to create our OWN ecommerce engine. The AbleCommerce code was messy and terrible. We had to keep fixing it. Then we were encouraged to purchase a support contract JUST TO REPORT BUGS. That was the last straw. We had some key features we needed that were promised in the next release and when the next release came, the features were not there. Then they (Able) began to close up the source code. So they lost their last good saving grace in our opinion when they did that. But our decision had been made at that point to leave Able. We were about to lose a huge client because of the lack of current shipping features in Able. This was about three years ago, and now we have a 100% fusebox commerce engine that uses UPS gateways, integrates with outside shipping systems (like MOM), many payment gateways, etc. and we are constantly developing it. This is not meant to be an advertisement, just a cautionary tale. Building a complete commerce engine is a huge endeavor. You would do better to use something else and make it work with an outside shipment manager than to get stuck with Able. Then there are all the usability/skinning/etc. issues that we could talk about for hours. -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. Josh Nathanson wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering if anyone has experience working with the AbleCommerce shopping cart, specifically the CFMX version (they also offer JSP/ASP versions). Any rants, raves, installation/usage issues? I would rather use CFWebstore, but my boss saw that AbleCommerce syncs up with a module (StoneEdge Order Manager) that he likes on our current shopping cart. We have been battling back and forth over using CF on our next store (I want to, he doesn't), so AbleCommerce may be a way for us to meet in the middle. Any info is appreciated, as I had never heard of AbleCommerce before, let alone worked with it. -- Josh Nathanson ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229804 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks
Damien McKenna wrote: How about BlueDragon and its CFIMAP tag? Never tried it. How is it? -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229806 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks
Russ, That was one of the tags I mentioned in my original post. Thanks for the opinion. That tag is so inexpensive that I will try it just because of the price and your recommendation. Thanks. -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. Russ wrote: We found out that CFPOP sucks about a year ago... that's when we got http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/cfxpop3professional.cfm Worked like a charm. And at $60 it's not that expensive. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229825 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks
We are in the process of building a robust webmail client, one that incorporates not only Spam/AV, but one that also dovetails with our CRM applications for true inbound email automation. This is critical for our CRM application, and it will also use Ajax. In playing with CFPOP and CFMAIL, it is very obvious that we can't use them. We are looking at IMail, IMS, some CFX tags, and other solutions to replace CFPOP and perhaps also CFMAIL. Since this is basically a webmail system on steroids, and because it MUST run on our CRM Linux cluster, Windows Email servers and windows-only CFX tags are NOT acceptable. We are migrating all of our hosted apps to large clusters and Windows will not be a part of the clustered environment (including the DB servers). So what I am interested in is opinions on both tag-based solutions (Java?) or email server choices that would be powerful enough to manage a fair amount of email, and yet also expose more functionality to CF so that we can process mail better. An example would be getting some of the header attributes (like Status) out without having to run regex on every message (that is not scalable). Thanks in advance for your opinions. -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229673 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Professional Opinions on HostMySite.com
Not true. There are lots of sites that offer CF hosting on Linux. -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine. Munson, Jacob wrote: One thing I've found about HMS is they are one of the only hosts that offers Linux/CF hosting. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229255 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: intranet project
How many users? -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. Tim Laureska wrote: I've been asked to quote on an intranet project that will involve a Win 2003 server/SQL server based in one city with multiple users throughout the states. they want to access that server (which will run CFMX server) via CF apps to be developed... Are there any recommendations on the best way to set this up. being the first time I've set up something as this . . what is a typical arrangement for something like this- any suggestions would be appreciated? Tim ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229257 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Professional Opinions on HostMySite.com
LOL. Yep. :) -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our Team-Logic CRM platform. Jamie Price wrote: Not true. There are lots of sites that offer CF hosting on Linux. -- John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Yeah, and all the really good ones are in Delaware, the home of CF Linux servers. :-) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229271 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Flash Forms and FCKeditor - do they work together?
On a side note we have seen FCKeditor crashing Firefox HARD when you use the cut or paste icons. Anyone else see that happen? John McKown David Adams wrote: Has anyone been able to get the FCKeditor to work within a CFFORM with format set to Flash? I haven't tried it yet but I am wondering if there is any point because CF will be compiling the code behind the FCKeditor into an swf. This will likely cause problems. Any experiences that anyone wants to share would be appreciated. DA ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227294 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cf shopping carts
Not sure if I can help here or not with this one but I can at least share some experiences we have in building a CF commerce engine from scratch. It can be a really big job and should not be taken lightly. We started our project because we used to use AbleCommerce and we got so mad at how they handled updates and how messy their code was that we ended up building a ColdFusion/Fusebox 4.1 commerce engine from the ground up. It took us a little over a year to go live with it, but it has been running for the last year or so. And like most web applications it will never truly be complete. We are adding UPS/Fedex XML gateway APIs to it now, for example. Using one Fusebox framework per site to call a core Fusebox framework, we were able to syndicate core store features and still have the ability to override them for custom shipping options like the one you describe below. Unfortunately, our system is not open-source for obvious reasons, but we have licensed it to other development companies and using BlueDragon we hope to offer it as compiled software soon. Currently it is only sold as a hosted app. If you are building one from the ground up I suggest you use a framework and possibly CFCs to make things flexible. That will end up becoming a major deal once you start to sell stores. We are building hundreds of stores now, and I can safely say from experience that no two stores are exactly the same. That is why cut-and-past OS commerce software is not all its cracked up to be, unless you charge serious dollars to your customers for custom programming, or you are building really small stores where the expectation of flexibility and features from the customer is low. The problem with customizing the OS versions are that you only have so much time in a day. You also end up limiting the amount of recurring revenue you can make because you are so busy hacking someone else's store engine. I'm not bashing OS at all, since we use MySQL for the DB and our commerce engine server is running CFMX 7 on Debian. I guess my point is that it CAN be done on CF, it can be scalable, you can reuse your code, but you need a framework and some hosting automation built-in if you want to make a business out of it. Do a lot of planning before you dive-in and make sure that you have a way to override layouts, shipping, pricing, discounts, group permissions, affiliates, etc. John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. We Host Fusebox.org dave wrote: since forever_cart.cfc is not going to be done for awhile I need to possibly find a different solution to a cart i need. any suggestions on a cart? Needs the following (and not cartweaver): of course all the add, edit, delete- products, shipping, ect but one thing I was just asked for is that if the order is over $11 to not give usps as a shipping option and when you select a product is shows you the product, so lets say you go into shirts it has the main listing and when you select a color it shows that color. I currently can do that but it messes some stuff up and of course I could add those functions but it might be cheaper to find a cart with that already in it. any suggestions? I havent been paying attention to the current available carts ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226436 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: bye MM :( :: welcome Adobe :)
Jennifer Gavin-Wear wrote: No word of CF here .. unless I missed something? I was thinking that too. Lots of mention of Flex, however. Its pretty obvious that MM/Adobe needs to answer AJAX as a threat to how web applications are built, and Flash has been able to do this flash remoting for some time. But flash sucks to develop with (for developers) and now Flex will make more interesting interfaces to bring these to developers.But you will still need web services for that to work, so I am surprised they are not mentioning CF whatsoever in the Flex movies. They simply mention that it runs on J2EE and that it will run on .Net soon as well. In the Flex examples, they show some neat widgets, but I doubt Flex will be used in big commerce sites where page loads, includes, traffic, affiliate snippets, SEO, conversion, etc are dependant on page loads. That will be interesting to see how things shake out. John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. We Host Fusebox ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226172 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF_Accelerate
I was thinking the same thing. For that number of page requests a small server like that should do fine. Especially if it has SATA RAID in it or something similar with plenty of RAM. John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. Toll-Free: 888-432-7965 ICQ: 1812513 We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine. Bryan Stevenson wrote: h...never heard of it...what does it do to accelerate?? You mentioned locking everywhere...well then it must be old as locking can be handled automatically since version 6.0 ;-) Wouldn't a dual Xeon machine serve that fast anyways?? ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226026 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Code reuse ideas?
mac jordan wrote: On 30/11/05, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of a couple of in house frameworks that do just this. One for example uses a lot of different custom tags for its CMS and that CMS is used for 20+ sites. Instead of copying that pack of tags to each site they all point to a common spot that stores just one copy of them. That way when a update is done to the core files it does not need to be copied to every site. we do precisely that for our core CMS. We do the same thing with Fusebox. One core set of Fusebox files, and each site has a set with its own globals. Works like a charm. John McKown ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:225901 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Small CF Job
Try Elance.com or the CF-Jobs list? John McKown President/CEO Delaware.Net, Inc. We Host Fusebox Jennifer Gavin-Wear wrote: Hi, sorry for the OT. I need someone who has experience of EMO to do some work on a site in the States. Can you please reply off the list if you are interested. Thanks, Jenny ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:225664 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Miva Merchant
We used to use Miva and we got away from it due to licensing costs, poor customizing, missing features. We have since purchased source for a FB3 commerce solution and we have added MANY features to it to make it our own. Now we have a free commerce solution that can be deployed and branded in an hour. Completely customizable.You can sell a lot more hosting when you do not have the cost of the licensing to contend with. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. Powering Internet Business 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, Delaware 19901 Toll Free: 888-432-7965 Dover, DE: 302-736-5515 -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Miva Merchant I have quite a bit of experience using it over the last year or so. 1. It's very easy. A web based admin just has you fill in the blanks and it does the rest. Doing this you can make the cart very basic or very complex. 2. There are a few templates included in it but you can change quite a few things to make it look however you like. Just depends on yours or the customer's design ability. 3. I have not used it with CF but MivaScript (the language it is written is) is VERY similar to CF. You should have no problem at all as long as you just include the miva pages in your CF templates. Watch out for the support though. Miva used to offer support to anyone who used it no matter where you hosted the site. Now they either have the webhost offer the support or you pay per incident to have Miva help you. They do have a very broad , free, KB that you can use and a few user groups on Yahoo if you get stuck. Dan Phillips www.CFXHosting.com 1-866-239-4678 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Miva Merchant Anyone using Miva Merchant? I have a client that wants e-commerce at no cost and I have a few q's about this product: 1. How difficult is it to integrate without any knowledge of the product? 2. How customizable is it (look and feel)? 3. To what extent can you use ColdFusion? Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated. HostMySite includes Miva with a $40 account, so it sounds like an inexpensive way to get set up. -Brad ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Humanclick Clone?
I know this has been asked in the past, but I never saw an answer. Has anyone built a clone of Humanclick(LivePerson). I would love to have something like humanclick that uses CF/Flash. Thanks. John McKown ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: CF Instant Messaging
Just curious Why reinvent the wheel? Trillan works great (www.trillian.cc), has no ads, and is free. Also works with ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, and IRC. -- John McKown Brandon Harper wrote: An option besides those old tags is PresenceWorks ( http://www.presenceworks.com ). I've worked enough with it enough to get something basic working in CF 5, then another project came along and I haven't gotten back to it yet. Perhaps I'll be able to write it as a CFC by the time it's a priority again and open source it at CFLib or something along those lines. I don't remember what the service cost of PresenceWorks is offhand, but its very reasonable. The support is very good as well-- when I had some questions I ended-up talking to the person who wrote their Java API. I think combining PresenceWorks with the open source work which has already been done to figure out the AIM/ICQ (they both use the same login servers now.. rumor is they are working to merge protocols, finally!), MSN, and Yahoo protocols, I suppose you could eventually roll something together. However it seems like a pretty big PITA and potentially maintenance heavy item if its not core to you or your clients business. - Brandon -- http://booms.net http://spooled.net ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: MX Hosting
Sorry about the muliple posts. My bad. Didn't look like it went throught the first time. Maybe the list was slow, maybe the coffee was cold. :) John McKown ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: MX Hosting
Delaware.net can give you your own CFMX server for what some companies charge for shared hosting. Craig Thomas wrote: Rob, I have had a couple CFMX sites with www.hostmysite.com for almost a year now and it's been a wonderful experience so far, and fairly cheap Are you using shared hosting? if so, that is odd, as when I inquired about their CFMX hosting I was told they did not allow cfobject (presumably createObject as well) and that (their) CFMX was unstable in a shared hosting environment. -Craig ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: MX Hosting
Delaware.net can give you your own CFMX server for what some companies charge for shared hosting. Funny how all three references are in the Delaware area. :) Craig Thomas wrote: Rob, I have had a couple CFMX sites with www.hostmysite.com for almost a year now and it's been a wonderful experience so far, and fairly cheap Are you using shared hosting? if so, that is odd, as when I inquired about their CFMX hosting I was told they did not allow cfobject (presumably createObject as well) and that (their) CFMX was unstable in a shared hosting environment. -Craig ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: MX Hosting
Is that all that DMV has?Wow, that is surprising. They are a bigger company than us and we have more servers than that. Delaware.net can give you your own CFMX server for what some companies charge for shared hosting. E-mail me off-list for info. Funny how all three references are in the Delaware area. :) Cutter (CF_Talk) wrote: http://www.dmv.com (Delmarva Online) currently has 2 CFMX Servers (Linux) with either SQL or mySQL support. Cutter Robert Bailey wrote: ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
SOLVED: CFMX Single Server/Multiple Vhosts Bug
This was a HUGE help to me to find this technote. We had a couple of sites that had virtual hostnames (i.e. staff.somedomain.com and orders.somedomain.com) where when you logged into one site, you would see files from the other site. This was a new bug to us in CFMX, and it was a headache. We changed the default setting as per the technote, and it fixed it. You can also set cacheRealPath=false in your application.cfm, and it will fix it as well. Cheers. John McKown Delaware.Net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Single Server/Multiple Vhosts The actual technote on it: http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23179Method=Full On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Stacy Young wrote: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/relea senotes_mx html Stace -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX Single Server/Multiple Vhosts Can someone post the URL to the article on the MM site for solving the problem with multiple virtual hosts on a single server, many thanks, jb. * Copyright ERA Technology Ltd. 2002. (www.era.co.uk). All rights reserved. The information supplied in this email should be treated in confidence. No liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss or damage suffered as a result of accessing this message or any attachments. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Blocking AOL Users - Was Cf vs AOL help needed....
SNIP They switched away from the old dynamic IP system some time last year. /SNIP The problem I have found here is that the IP address that AOL assigns is the IP of the proxy server. This means many uses appear to come from the proxy server's IP when they surf. This is bad because when an AOL user abuses your web site (happens all the time with AOL kiddies) and you are forced block the IP, you end up blocking large groups of AOL users. On some of my sites, that is exactly what I do. When AOL users get my you are banned message and complain, I send then a form letter explaining that AOL's caching servers are to blame, and that they should either complain to AOL or find a new ISP. While there is no foolproof method for restricting web access, the best method for me has been blocking IPs. Hope that helps. John McKown Delaware.Net, Inc. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Mass Email Template
Show the code. -Original Message- From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Mass Email Template Let me reword this- I am looking for an example of a CFMAIL template for doing mass email. I have the html portion working just fine. I just think that I have something messed up in my cfmail tag. Thanks again -Original Message- From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Mass Email Template Can someone share the format they use for mass email. We have a list of our clients that have agreed to accept newsletters from us and I would like to just check a couple of other mass email templates to see if I have my code written properly. I have been getting a lot of virus notices from our virus software about the mime attach virus and was wondering if perhaps I was causing this because of the way I have written my code. Offline contact on this matter is fine as I know that it causes many FLAMES whenever mass email questions are brought up. Thanks In Advance Larry Juncker Senior Cold Fusion Developer Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or personal. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us at the email listed above. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Cheapest Price on StudioMX?
I just found the StudioMX UPGRADE for only $190 Here: http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=713 And the FULL VERSION for only $385 here: http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=712 Has anyone seen it cheaper than this? This is certainly a lot less than getting it direct from MM. Cheers. John McKown , President Delaware.Net, Inc. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ColdFusion MX / Studio MX now available!
I wonder if they will fix the annoying security bug that crashes it every other time I open it. John McKown -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX / Studio MX now available! And then CFTalk goes deathly quiet as everyone rushes off to download MX... LOL -Original Message- From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion MX / Studio MX now available! Macromedia has just announced the availability of ColdFusion MX / Studio MX! :-) Neil Clark Team Macromedia http://www.macromedia.com/go/team Announcing Macromedia MX!! http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2002 07:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Array Question COM is evil! If you want to have a good middle tier that works with multiple languages you will need to use Java and/or Corba. -Matt -Original Message- From: David Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Array Question Thanks, I'll check out that site. Another Question I am using com objects to return arrays to the CF page. I do most of my coding ASP and the objects work wonderfully. I seem to be running into a lot of silly problems when trying to code this way for CF. My objective is to have separation between my database layer and my presentation layer. So that if I need to convert the code later to some other language it wont be a problem. Some projects I do require CF, some ASP, and some times others. So I want to have good componentized code that I can reuse. How do you guys handle things like this in CF? Do any of you program with COM regularly? I am getting the feeling that it might not be the best idea with CF. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unstructured info The function UBound(arrayname, 2) returns the greatest value from the second dimension of the array ArrayName. The closest function in CF to this is ArrayMax(arrayName) but that only returns the greatest value from a one dimensional array. You'll have to copy the values from second dimension of your array to a separate array and then get the ArrayMax of the new array. You might also want to check CFLib.org and see if there is a user defined function that will deal with multi-dimensional arrays. Jeff -Original Message- From: David Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unstructured info This may sound like a silly question but I am having a hard time figuring this out. What is the CF equivalent to the VBScript UBound(arrayName,2)? I have been all through the docs and cant find it. Thanks, Dave __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Failed to initialize Security Client. Error Code: 110
I refuse to purchase DWMX until they fix this annoying message that crashes it 8 times out of 10 when I open the program: Failed to initialize Security Client. Error Code: 110 John McKown __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
I like the sites feature. I guess if you are using SourceSafe or something similar, then the site functionality may not be important to you. Personally, I like the file check-in/check-out features of DWMX, and the ability to synchronize a site without doubling the page count and adding a lot of useless vti_bin crap ala FrontPage. Since I have been playing with UD4 for some time now, I was happy to see that all of the Sites that I made in UD4 came right over, and I did not have to re-enter them. I cannot say the same thing for snippets. There should have been an import feature for snippets. Another bug I found is CSS linking. When you link to a CSS file, the preview pane sometimes seems to forget about the CSS file, and all of the preview text becomes Times New Roman, which is really annoying. You can re-link the CSS file, and the styles re-appear, but just momentarily. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 icq: 1812513 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UltraDev
I use both Studio and Ultradev. Studio for CF and SQL coding, connectin g to datasources, tag completion, snippets, and the great help files. Des ign view has always sucked in Studio. I don't think anyone is denying that. What I have yet to see people complain about with Studio is the project portion. Can someone tell me why it takes 5 times as long for Studio to FTP a web site when compared to UD4? UD4 rocks for file check-in and out, a nd it also rocks for the speed in which it indexes a site. WYSIWYG queries? MM codes in my source? No thanks.. Macromedia: Just fix studio by taking the file management and visual form table design from UD and stick them into studio. Then you will have one rocking CF product IMHO. Why is that so hard? We know you have Studio 6. Release it already. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UltraDev And do add to what Matt said, Allaire (pre MM) added an option to DISABLE the design tab (at the request of users), and also had popup warnings when switching to that mode. I know of no one who liked or used that feature regularly. It was one of the most complained about features in the product. Removing it was not a way to push other products (hey, we've been doing that since even before there was a design mode, never noticed the Dreamweaver integration?), it was about removing a feature that caused more complaints and annoyance than it was worth. That's it. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UltraDev Hi, basically with CF Studio 4.5.x, you used to get a design tab for performing the visual site of web design - this has now been removed from CF Studio 5 (due to the Allaire/Macromedia merger) and the design is expected to be done with Dreamweaver. This is not correct. The Design Tab was removed because the code was not maintainable and the feature in focus groups received very little praise. UD is a better visual editor (although not a better code editor at this point) and most users actually had it already so we thought that the removal was a better solution than having team members work on that at the expense of features that people really did want and ask for. _ Matt Brown Community Manager Macromedia (650) 481-4525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload?
Customer has Access database that he uploads to CF Server via FTP. Access database is a datasource for his site. When site is being viewed, he cannot upload a newer copy of the database because the file is locked. Any creative solutions besides disconnect the datasource? John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload?
Ben, That sounds like a good solution. Thanks. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: BEN MORRIS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Have two datasources databases. Have person upload datasource 2 while the site uses datasource 1. Do a query of datasource 2, loop through it and update datasource 1. Maybe have a scheduled task do this at a time that would be least disruptive. There are probably better ways to do this, but since you are using an access db in the first place, I imagine that simple is good. John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/01 03:36PM Customer has Access database that he uploads to CF Server via FTP. Access database is a datasource for his site. When site is being viewed, he cannot upload a newer copy of the database because the file is locked. Any creative solutions besides disconnect the datasource? John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload?
Ben, I agree with you. On all of our in-house applications, we use SQL Server. This particular customer is a local chamber of commerce who uses Access internally to maintain their list of members. There are only 500 or so members, and they want the Access database to power the membership directory of their web site. They will never pay for SQL work, and we assist them for exposure in the community. Since the DB that is being uploaded is a copy, and is only used for select queries, there is no worry of corruption. This site is also small enough that simultaneous read-writes are not an issue either. And there is no credit card information or sensitive information in the DB at all. So in this particular case, Access is the best solution. Next time I will offer more data to keep the thread on-track. ;) Cheers. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Actually, the real solution is to not use shared file base databases on live Web sites. I know Access is cheap and easy, I know all the compelling reasons to use it, but: - administration and updates is a pain - the data file is highly susceptible to corruption - the data file is likely to be stolen too Access (and any other files based DBMS') were never designed for Web use, and really should not be used there. The tough part is explaining that to your client. If you need help convincing him, there is a column I wrote on this (title is Access Denied) at www.forta.com/cf/resources. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? This is a bit of a bubblegum solution, but you can have your client run a lock killing query just prior to upload. Just setup a quesry that they can navigate to in their browser (I call it qLockKiller.cfm). The SQL should be something like SELECT something FROM nothing. That will cause a db error and unlock Access (remove the .ldb file). Sometimes the query needs to be run afew times. I'd suggest doing this at non-peak times as somebody could hit the db again in the time it takes to fire up the FTP and send up the db. All that said...clients should not mess with uploading databases over top live ones...transaction will inevitably happen between the download and upload and thus data will be lost. Best solution is to set CF admin to only allow SELECT statements durring this process so no data can be altered. Of course this requires access to CF admin which is not always easy if hosted in a shared environment. HTH Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Customer has Access database that he uploads to CF Server via FTP. Access database is a datasource for his site. When site is being viewed, he cannot upload a newer copy of the database because the file is locked. Any creative solutions besides disconnect the datasource? John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload?
Thank you, Jon. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? If I remember correctly the bad query solution was a bug, and stopped working in 4.5. I do remember it not working in 4.5 for me... In versions 4.5+ there is a specific function for this. From the 4.5 Release notes cfset rs = cfusion_disable_dbconnections(myDSN,1) The following line enables the data source named cfmysource: cfset rs = cfusion_disable_dbconnections(myDSN,0) You can also uncheck Maintain Database Connections in the CF admin and the database will never lock. jon - Original Message - From: John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Customer has Access database that he uploads to CF Server via FTP. Access database is a datasource for his site. When site is being viewed, he cannot upload a newer copy of the database because the file is locked. Any creative solutions besides disconnect the datasource? ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Access Question
That LOOKS like it should work. What is the column's datatype, and did you try #CreateODBCDate(attributes.datebox)# ? John McKown -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Access Question I haven't used access much, so I'm sure this is going to sound dumb, but can you think of a reason that I get 0 records for this query when I can see there's a record in the db with a date of 10/18/2001? SELECT* FROM messages WHERE message_date = #attributes.datebox# The debugging shows: SQL = SELECT * FROM messages WHERE message_date = 10/18/2001 If I use single quotes around #attributes.datebox# it gives me an error saying datatype mismatch. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
HouseOfFusion Web Sites Down?
HouseOfFusion Web Sites Down? What happened yesterday? All of the HouseOfFusion sites were down. And the message board volume slowed to a trickle. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hiding Error Pages
you could include the error pages using a server mapping. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Crouvisier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hiding Error Pages Hi folks, Now that I've got CF Server 5 running correctly on my Linux box, I had a quick question. What's the best way to hide the Error template pages that I have setup? Currently, any user could guess my Error page names, and because I have my ErrorException page e-mail myself and a few other administrators when the page is called, this could lead to a bunch of false alerts. Is there any variable I could perhaps check to see if it's CF Server calling the Error page as opposed to a regular user, or is there some way I can specify all Error* pages to not be directly viewable? I was thinking of just doing this with the help of an .htaccess file, but I was hoping there was something a bit more elegant, as I assume this sort of concern has come up before. Thanks a lot, Emmanuel J.M. Crouvisier ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hiding URL Window
Here is a good tutorial for creating chromeless windows: http://www.siteexperts.com/tips/techniques/ts05/page1.asp It only works in IE, but it is worth a serious look. You can create your own custom browser window. They ripped this content off, but it is a good tutorial nonetheless. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding URL Window You can use a CFCONTENT tag to hide the real location of a page, but there will be an address for the page holding the CFCONTENT. This is the page where the security would be put to keep people from getting to content they shouldn't while keeping others with access from sharing the access. There are also JavaScripts out there freely available ( try www.javascriptsource.com) that can open a page without the frame. JoAnn A. Schlosser Senior Consultant Association Management Software Grant Thornton LLP Washington, D. C. 703.837.4428 -Original Message- From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hiding URL Window In ie I have seen webpages that will cause the address bar to go away. How do I do this?? Joshua Tipton ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
NETSCAPE IS GOING AWAY! A Web Developer's Dream Come True!
a perceived interest in finding their own things,'' Bankoff said. Bruce Kasrel, a Forrester Research analyst who had yet to be briefed on the new Netscape plans, said ahead of the announcement last week that Netscape needed to pursue a hybrid media and software akin to that of Microsoft's MSN Explorer. MSN allows users to custom design the mix of Web searching, news updates, communication features and other services using Internet Explorer technology. Similarly, he predicted AOL Time Warner would fold Netscape software into its media properties. The media hub strategy gives Netscape a chance to sell advertising across its many properties -- something AOL Time Warner is well known for doing -- and to test the waters for subscriptions rather than just free services, Loizides said. ``Because they are repositioning themselves, they are a bit freer to experiment than Yahoo! or other services,'' she added. ``Things they could test include subscriptions services'' for unique Time Warner programming or special Web software. The formula of using Netscape to create a central Internet meeting place for Time Warner magazine readers and broadcast viewers echoes in certain respects the push by Time Warner in the first half of the 1990s to draw users to a single site. That site, known as Pathfinder, failed to keep Time Warner readers within the site and eventually closed. Netscape can tap an unprecedented wealth of exclusive media content ranging from music pop star Madonna to the hit crime-family drama ``The Sopranos'' now running on U.S. cable television, Loizides said. John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 Local: 302-736-5515 Toll Free: 888-432-7965 Fax: 302-736-5945 Cellular: 302-423-0605 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.delaware.net ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Can anyone recommend a good UltraDev Mailing List?
We are just starting to adopt MM UltraDev here in the office to use alongside CF Studio, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a good Ultradev mailing list somewhere. Preferably with a slant towards CF coders. John McKown Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 Local: 302-736-5515 Toll Free: 888-432-7965 Fax: 302-736-5945 Cellular: 302-423-0605 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.delaware.net ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: the big export...ColdFusion.NET?
Pronounced C Sharp, I think it is the successor to C++. John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Paul Mone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: the big export...ColdFusion.NET? What is C#? -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: the big export...ColdFusion.NET? Michael, before you go and learn VB, realize that vb is morphing into vb.net. Although the syntax is similar, the changes/improvements are quite drastic. You may want to skip picking up a book on the old VB and concentrate on learning the new stuff. Microsofts site is a great place to start though. bigfatsegue The whole dotNet thing is very interesting... Microsofts try at interpreted code, like java. Which leads me to think back to Macromedia's repeatedly saying dotNet in the press release that they were commited to dotNet. It isn't too far of a stretch to say that Neo may be ported to dotNet, and specifically C#, which is basically java anyway. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a no brainer for Macromedia to do a C# port. It will probably run much faster on Windows. The only risk would be confusing the users as to which is better. That's my random Friday thought. Anyone have any comments? /bigfatsegue jon - Original Message - From: Michael Lugassy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Re: the big export thanks for the tip, paul! I keep seeing this learn VB tips and I was wondering - are there any good and quick resources on learning VB on the net? something you know about?? Michael. - Original Message - From: Paul Mone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: RE: the big export This is definately something I would consider off-line processing. In most cases, CF is not suitable for these types of tasks, espcially if it's a task that you'll have to repeat on scheduled basis. If this is a one-time event (are you sure? :) ) then you can way the time for development vs. time of processing. one time operation? Developing it in CF is probably the quickest solution. Won't be the quickest app in the world. recurring task? Do it in C, or even better, VB. It would be quicker to develop this in VB than C, and the performance increase that C would give you is probably negligible. Writing an offline recurring task like this in CF would be a mis-use of your CFServer's resources. --- Paul Mone Ninthlink Consulting Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 619.222.7082 -Original Message- From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: the big export I need the fastest way to export 100s of 1000s of text files into a database. I need each file in a a new row like this: file1name, file1content file2name, file2content CF is too slow for this, what can I use? Thanks, -=Michael. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Will MM Create Server-Side Image Editing Tools For CF?
Thanks. I will take a look at that. John McKown Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 Local: 302-736-5515 Toll Free: 888-432-7965 Fax: 302-736-5945 Cellular: 302-423-0605 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.delaware.net -Original Message- From: Peter Stolz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Will MM Create Server-Side Image Editing Tools For CF? Take a look at CFX_DynamicImage in the tag gallery. It does everything you want and more. I believe it's commercial though. HTH P. -Original Message- From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Will MM Create Server-Side Image Editing Tools For CF? I have several CFX tags that can resample images and create thumbnails dynamically, but they leave me wanting more. Since Macromedia is mainly a graphics company, why don't they take some of the image editing tools in fireworks and make them scriptable on the server with CF? It would be great to be able to resample, sharpen, adjust contrast, levels, color, crop, etc. using a web browser. AOL and others are already doing this. For instance, I built a pretty cool content management solution for real estate agents, but most agents are too inexperienced with photo editing programs like Photoshop, or they just simply don't own any. Just getting the photos out of the camera seems to be a major chore for most of them. Since this is the weakest link in the application, any way to give them the power to edit the photo online would make things a lot simpler for them. Comments? John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Will MM Create Server-Side Image Editing Tools For CF?
I have several CFX tags that can resample images and create thumbnails dynamically, but they leave me wanting more. Since Macromedia is mainly a graphics company, why don't they take some of the image editing tools in fireworks and make them scriptable on the server with CF? It would be great to be able to resample, sharpen, adjust contrast, levels, color, crop, etc. using a web browser. AOL and others are already doing this. For instance, I built a pretty cool content management solution for real estate agents, but most agents are too inexperienced with photo editing programs like Photoshop, or they just simply don't own any.Just getting the photos out of the camera seems to be a major chore for most of them. Since this is the weakest link in the application, any way to give them the power to edit the photo online would make things a lot simpler for them. Comments? John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Looks like jsut a bundling to me. John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ADA Section 508 Accessibility and CF tags
This is for the Americans with Disabilities Act. These are laws that mandate that things like buildings and software have accommodations for handicapped peeps. John McKown -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ADA Section 508 Accessibility and CF tags Whats a 'VBA' site ? And also - A method shall be provided that permits users to skip repetitive navigation links. What is that driving at, exactly ? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can a cflocation effect take place without a cflocation tag?
How about a flash movie that moves to another page? :) John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Evan Lavidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 5:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Can a cflocation effect take place without a cflocation tag? Could be: 1. a JavaScript redirect 2. a Meta refresh 3. a cferror tag that's catching an error and sending to an error template 4. a site wide error handler in the CF admin that's sending to an error template 5. ... I'm sure there's other stuff but that's four off the top of my head. HTH, Evan -Original Message- From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Can a cflocation effect take place without a cflocation tag? Hi, Can a cflocation effect take place without a cflocation tag? I've been asked to proofread some problemmatic code which is inexplicably sending users to an error page. However, before I begin to work out why this is happening, I need to work out how it is happening, since I can't find a cflocation tag either within an else or elseif clause, or elsewhere. Sincerely, --- Hubert Earl ICQ#: 16199853 AIM: hubertfme My Jamaican Art, Craft More Online Store: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/hearl/link_page_on_angelfire.html ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Steve, Excellent points. Might I also add that some of us ISPs are actually web development shops and hosting companies as well. In our web development shop, some of our designers are just getting into application development. And these guys are fast learners. I have pointed them towards CF because it is a good RAD environment for them to learn in. They have already built some pretty impressive CF apps running on SQL. But when we give a quote for a web development job, we factor in the CF work, the CF License, as well as the increase in hosting that a CF site will cause. In many cases, our larger clients opt for a dedicated server. Since the bottom fell out of the PC server market, it is not unheard of to build a CF server that costs $1500 that will run Win2K, SQL Server, and CF all on the same box. This actually works pretty well for a small application, and we are doing this now. But add up the software cost: CF Pro: $1200 M$ SQL Server (only 5 licenses): $1400 Win2K: $600 (ASP Included Free) As much as I hate a command line interface, Linux, PHP and MySQL are starting to look attractive. Especially for these smaller sites that need their own box for security, whatever. I agree with you Steve, MM should drop the price on CF Server to gain market share. Market share is important. And for god's sake if you are going to try to get more revenue from hosting companies, then at least provide tools to make managing the security of the sites easier. IMHO the sandbox feature should be standard across the board. Maybe they should merge Enterprise and Professional editions to accomplish this. John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License We have already been told by Allaire sales reps that there will substantial price increases for hosting companies with hundreds or thousands of domains/applications and that if we need licenses, the time to buy is now. This is from your own sales folks. Allaire has a well established history of announcing a fire sale on the current partner membership before a major price increase. This is a way to try and keep the partners from screaming too loud when the price change comes in and to generate a short spike in partner revenue before that program price is also increased. I would love to be surprised by a price decrease across the board for CF server licenses, but your own sales folks are telling us to buy now before the price goes up. Last time during the beta cycle we were promised sand boxing and other features that would make large scale hosting, ApSP, and shared hosting systems more secure. Then at the last moment, sand boxing and the other security enhancements were moved into a new version of software called CF Enterprise which was not covered by existing maintenance contracts for Pro. So folks had to scramble for new license agreements and when they did, they found that the price of CF went up with a five fold increase to some $5,000. Hence why many hosting companies are still with 4.0 and didn't upgrade to 4.5. Now taking a page from Microsoft's successful price increase of SQL Server to processor based and connection based licensing, McAllaire is looking to do the same thing. We have already heard from MM in past conference calls with analyst and at meetings about adaptive licensing, tiered licensing, and increasing license revenue streams. These appear to be code words for, the price is going up. The difference is Microsoft has not significant competition or alternative in the NT SQL market. ISP's are the backbone for CF deployment and for introducing new developers to CF. The price should actually be going down for these companies not up. When ASP and PHP are already free to hosting companies, it means a lot for hosting companies to spend real dollars to license CF. I recently watched one of Inline's largest hosting company shelve iHTML after a major price increase by Inline and there was hardly a whimper from the customer base. The ISP gave everyone a reasonable period of time to transition their apps. In the end, they lost just a handful of customers that said they wanted to stick with iHTML. CF is not invincible in the ISP market. Allaire can't depend on a huge outcry from customers to force Hosting companies to keep CF or lose a significant revenue stream. The stream is not that significant and there are other lower cost and just as effective options to CF. What do you expect would happen if an ISP told their customers that ASP and PHP host pricing will remain the same but the cost of CF hosting will increase by 25 to 50%? We have some early research that indicates as many as 70% of those customers would opt
RE: Is CF still relevant?
Joseph, Great questions. If you asked me 6 months ago, I would answer you by saying that the reason I use CF primarily is because it is a great RAD tool. Today, I am thinking about how cool it will be to leverage my CF experience once CF is tied to Flash better (better than Harpoon). The thought of this alone gets my heart racing.A couple of years ago, M$ introduced their "Agent" ActiveX component that allowed you to have a little character (like those annoying M$ Office Assistants) that you could script to make talk. I thought that this was pretty neat, but it required a slow download, and the performance was hideous. Also, you were stuck with the characters that M$ developed. With Flash working better with CF, you could create some compelling agents, IM programs, distance learning tools, training programs, and more. There is probably a lot of potential here that we have not even thought of yet. So the Flash potential and also UltraDev's *potential* have me excited. Those are my hopes for CF. My fears are: - How well will CF be integrated with UltraDev? - How well will CF be integrated with Flash? And I don't mean little Harpoon calendars. - Will MM fix/improve the advanced security features of CF? The "Users -- Groups -- Policies" security model is cludgy. - Will MM or Version 5.0 improve/automate remote file management? By this I mean that I would like for CF to allow me to manage files on the server much like FrontPage extensions do. You rename a file, and all of the links to the file get renamed. FP is a newbie tool, but this is a HUGE time saver when you have a really big site to manage. - Will MM lower the cost of the server? The pro version should cost $599.00. - How will the real world performance be with the Java-based "NEO" (CF version 6.0). I know they say it is faster, but I am just worried. - How soon will 5.0 be out? User defined functions and querying a query will be awesome. The User defined functions alone will add tremendously to the CF community once you can download custom functions (loan calculators, etc.). Just my 2 cents. John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is CF still relevant? Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back and reevalutate things periodically. Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP, JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively small community; etc. Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house" (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or another non-CF solution? Why or why not? And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems (Amiga) have resignedly done? Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at, and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best solution for web application development in 2001? Joe ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: iframe issue please suggest CFML makes problem
Try taking this out: "STYLE="display:none"
John McKown
Delaware.Net, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: paul . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: iframe issue please suggest CFML makes problem
Hi Guys!
well am trying to use iframe to show the results within the same
page but someting goes wrong am not seeing anything apart from a
javascript error
i ll be gratefull if some one rectifies this for me .
Thanks-Paul
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p align="center"ibfont face="Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif"CA STAFF MEETINGS/font/b/i/p
cfif team_meetings_count gt 0
table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6"
bordercolor="#00" align="center" width="750"
tr align="center" valign="top"
td bgcolor="#66"font color="#FF" size="2"bfont
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"Meeting/font/b/font/td
td bgcolor="#66"font color="#FF" size="2"bfont
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"Scheduledbr
Date /font/b/font/td
td bgcolor="#66"font face="Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif" size="2" color="#FF"bOccurancebr
Date/b/font/td
td bgcolor="#66"font color="#FF" size="2"bfont
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"Non-Attendees/font/b/font/td
/tr
cfoutput query=qry_get_meetings_teams
tr align="center" valign="top" bgcolor="##FF"
td align="left"font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size="1"#meeting_name#/font/td
td align="left"font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size="1"
cfif scheduled_date neq "1001-01-01"
#dateformat(scheduled_date, " dd ")#
cfelse
Not started yet
/cfif
/font/td
td align="left"font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size="1"
cfif occurance_date neq "1001-01-01"
#dateformat(occurance_date, " dd ")#
cfelse
Not completed yet
/cfif
/font/td
tdfont size="2"bfont face="Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif" size="1"a class="anchorclass"
href="javascript:doSection(thesection)"xxx/a/font/b/font
a name = "test"
div id ="thesection" onClick =
"noSection(thesection)" STYLE="display:none"iframe
SRC="index.cfm?fuseaction=modify_nonattendeesamp;meeting_idx=#rec
_id#" WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=200
/iframea href="javascript:noSection(thesection)" Close/a/div
br/br/
/a /td
/tr
/cfoutput
/table
/cfif
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This is the javascript i have used
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script language ="javascript"
function doSection(secNum)
{
/*
if(secNum.style.display == "none") {secNum.style.display = ""; }
else {secNum.style.display = "none"; }
*/
secNum.style.display = "";
}
function noSection (secNum)
{
if(secNum.style.display == "") {secNum.style.display = "none";}
}
/script
---
The ERROR is : "style is not an Object"
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i need you Guys to rectify this for me
thanks
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Win2K File Associations Not Working
I just installed 4.5.1 SP2 on a Fresh install of Win 2K. Under the file associations in IIS 5, the .cfm file extensions are listed, but they are not being served properly as web site files. When I try to get to the administrator: http://204.253.96.198/cfide/administrator/login.cfm You can see for yourself what happens. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Win2K File Associations Not Working
We removed the .HTR ourselves, and we installed the service packs for Win 2K. I am going to try the steps that the other poster suggested right now. I will let you know what solves it. Thanks for your help. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Win2K File Associations Not Working Perhaps someone who has run into this may be able to help you more, but I'll give it a shot... In IIS is the cfm extensions being processed through C:\CFusion\bin\iscf.dll ? I have a hunch something is not right with IIS though...you say this is a fresh install of Win2k? Did you install any patches or remove any extensions? Because +.htr is not working, and the htr extensions are installed with a clean install... jon - Original Message - From: "John McKown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: Win2K File Associations Not Working I just installed 4.5.1 SP2 on a Fresh install of Win 2K. Under the file associations in IIS 5, the .cfm file extensions are listed, but they are not being served properly as web site files. When I try to get to the administrator: http://204.253.96.198/cfide/administrator/login.cfm You can see for yourself what happens. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Very, very, very bad day
Phoeun, Here is a selection of very loud alarm clocks that are made for senior citizens: http://www.seniorshops.com/alarmclocks.html John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Very, very, very bad day Hey all, early this morning, I was working on project A. I needed a javascript image roll over template so I opened up an FTP from another project (which we'll call project B) i did way back, and downloaded the template. I was using FTP explorer to do this. I worked a few more hours, then set an alarm to wake myself up so I can FTP Project A to the hosting computer. When I woke up, there was no alarm, i guess i didn't set it right, and i was VERY late for work, so i rushed and dragged Project A's files into the FTP explorer, not realizing that it was connected to the Project B's site, not Project A. I screamed as I tried to press cancel. The index files have been replaced, and so have the images, because I used the same naming scheme now, i suck. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Very, very, very bad day
LOL :) John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 302-736-5515 Fax: 302-736-5945 -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Very, very, very bad day I hesitate to continue this...but I bought a clock from them. It was supposed to do 120 decibels and had a little vibrating thing that went under my pillow. It worked, until it broke 6 months later. It now does not turn off at all! And emits a very strange "warbling" sound after about 5 minutes if I dont pull the plug to turn it off. Needless to say, I am back to coming in late. jon - Original Message - From: "John McKown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: RE: Very, very, very bad day Phoeun, Here is a selection of very loud alarm clocks that are made for senior citizens: http://www.seniorshops.com/alarmclocks.html John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Very, very, very bad day Hey all, early this morning, I was working on project A. I needed a javascript image roll over template so I opened up an FTP from another project (which we'll call project B) i did way back, and downloaded the template. I was using FTP explorer to do this. I worked a few more hours, then set an alarm to wake myself up so I can FTP Project A to the hosting computer. When I woke up, there was no alarm, i guess i didn't set it right, and i was VERY late for work, so i rushed and dragged Project A's files into the FTP explorer, not realizing that it was connected to the Project B's site, not Project A. I screamed as I tried to press cancel. The index files have been replaced, and so have the images, because I used the same naming scheme now, i suck. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: To ASP or not to ASP
Doesn't that work great except for the fact that you would have to have the password to the DB in your code? Bugs like the .HTA bug have kept me from ever putting a database login in my code. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP For SQL just fill in all the available attributes in cfquery and use SQLOLEDB for the provider. I use OLEDB for data connections all the time and have never set one up in cf admin. Bernd VanSkiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] ColdFusion Developer ICQ #: 916324 Original Message Follows From: Andy Ewings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:01:21 - Appologies for the last mailfell asleep on my keyboard and accidently hit the send keywhat I was going to say was.. This works ok for file based db's but wot about SQL?.. -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd http://www.thoughtbubble.net -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Tel: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -Original Message- From: Zachary S. Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 March 2001 22:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP -Original Message- From: Zachary S. Bedell Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To ASP or not to ASP - Examples?? Very interested in this. - - "I have used dynamic OLEDB database connections many times - with 4.0 and 4.5. - Don't have to have a connection set up on the server even now. Take two Sorry about spamming list twice... Seems my PGP got hungry ate my CF tags... Still learning V7.0... Anyways, here's the example I was trying to send the first time: This works quite nicely on many apps I've written: cfset DB = "C:\InetPub\ServerChecklist.mdb" cfquery name="CheckLogin" datasource="#DB#" dbtype="OLEDB" provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0" providerdsn="#DB#" username="Admin" password="" SELECT Blah... /cfquery Best regards, Zac Bedell ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: harpoon beta
LOL John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: ibtoad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: harpoon beta Yes -Original Message- From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: harpoon beta did anyone try out the Harpoon beta yet? (and, which one 2? or 2_250 ? ) ATTN HouseofFussion: Please start a Harpoon mailing list if possible. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Single Quotes in SQL HELP PLEASE!
Or do it dynamically like so: #REReplace(Form.FieldName, "'", "''", "ALL")# John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Single Quotes in SQL HELP PLEASE! ok, I want to enter this character into a SQL table. ' but i get an error. how do I make it enter ' into the database? INSERT INTO MyTABLE(Stuff) VALUES = ''' ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and FrontPage
I am downloading it now. :) John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF and FrontPage john..have you tried Dreamweaver 4? Or better yet Dreamweaver 4 Ultradev?? I think it has all the advantages of Frontpage that you mentioned, without those nasty drawbacks. It isn't as neatly laid out, however, and thus takes some getting used to as you make the transition from Frontpage. The Site manager's features are there, but you need to get accustomed to it. There is a trial available..give it an honest try for a week. It WILL be a bit difficult finding where everything is if FP is all you've used, but I think you will at least seriously consider it as an alternative after just a week of trying to use it. :-) -Gel - Original Message - From: John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Drag-and-drop file handling of FP is way more efficient than FTP. 2. Renaming images on a FP server will automagically change all of the links in .htm and .html files. .CFM files are ignored. This is a HUGE time saver. 3. The FP Explorer allows you to enter comments on each files, including images, .cfm files, and .html files. This makes file management easier. 4. Visual layout of HTML tables and HTML forms is the fastest and most intuitive anywhere. 5. Page Preview for HTML files works great. 6. You can CTRL-A (copy all) a web page in IE, then paste into the FP editor. This saves time "reusing" code. Here are the negatives of FP: 1. Not platform independent. 2. FP Extensions run as root, and are a Network Admin's nightmare. 3. FP Editor does not respect existing code structure. 4. PF Editor does not recognize CF. 5. There is no good workgroup session integrity to keep people from working on the same file simultaneously. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and FrontPage
I have been waiting for someone to talk about this on the list for a while. We use FrontPage 2000 quite a bit for visual layout of tables and forms, then we remotely (through the FP Explorer) rename the .html files to .cfm when we are ready to do the CF part. Clicking on a .cfm file in FP Explorer opens the .cfm file in CF Studio, so we never actually use the FP editor on CFM files directly. Here are the benefits: 1. Drag-and-drop file handling of FP is way more efficient than FTP. 2. Renaming images on a FP server will automagically change all of the links in .htm and .html files. .CFM files are ignored. This is a HUGE time saver. 3. The FP Explorer allows you to enter comments on each files, including images, .cfm files, and .html files. This makes file management easier. 4. Visual layout of HTML tables and HTML forms is the fastest and most intuitive anywhere. 5. Page Preview for HTML files works great. 6. You can CTRL-A (copy all) a web page in IE, then paste into the FP editor. This saves time "reusing" code. Here are the negatives of FP: 1. Not platform independent. 2. FP Extensions run as root, and are a Network Admin's nightmare. 3. FP Editor does not respect existing code structure. 4. PF Editor does not recognize CF. 5. There is no good workgroup session integrity to keep people from working on the same file simultaneously. I have never opened a .cfm file in FP itself. That would be idiotic. FrontPage DOES cause some problems with code, too. No TH support, BR tags in the wrong place, font tags in the wrong place, etc. But the FP publish feature is a nice feature, and so is the preview feature (for .html files only). And don't forget about the benefit of being able to work LIVE off of the server without having to FTP. That is the single most compelling reason to use FP - because by eliminating FTP, we can work a lot faster. And we do not need to track down html file links... FP does that for you. IMHO the FTP functions and the Page Preview Functions of Studio suck wind. So does the visual editor for page design when compared to FP. It has been a while since I have used Dreamweaver(DW), but hopefully the visual editing is a lot cleaner. But I would give up the ability to drag and drop files to the server, which so far only the FP server extensions allow. I would LOVE to get rid of FrontPage entirely, but currently it saves us so much time (not needing an intranet server for projects, drag and drop, etc.), that so far I have not had a compelling reason to get rid of it. Now that the merger has happened, I would drop FP in a second for DreamWeaver, but it needs better visual editing, and it needs better server support for link-checking, drag-drop, etc. If it already has these features, then please excuse my ignorance of the product. Regardless, we will be looking at DW a lot more closely because of the merger. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and FrontPage Looks like it's time for me to learn DreamWeaver. I am not good enough a programmer to take any extra confusion caused by FrontPage's alleged shenanigans. (I have some experience with these shenanigans myself, though I've learned to deal with most of them. But I am not ready to throw CF into the mix.) Thanks for everyone's feedback. By the way, the tally as I count it so far is: Pro-DW/Anti-FP: 7 Pro-FP: 1 No stunning endorsement either way: 2 Matthieu -Original Message- From: Shane Witbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and FrontPage I highly recommend Dreamweaver 4 over Frontpage. Shane Witbeck www.digitalsanctum.com -Original Message- From: Bob Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF and FrontPage Hmmm Haven't had a problem yet, am running CF4.5, Frontpage and Flash 4 all on the same machine. Bob Lehman New Horizon Mgmt and Consulting 440-542-0992 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.nhmac.com Client website: www.nhmac-user.com - Original Message - From: "Cornillon, Matthieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: CF and FrontPage Hi. I have a development machine with ColdFusion Studio/Server (single license) on it. For a couple of reasons, I'd like to install FrontPage on the same machine to do some simple visual HTML editing that can be a drag in CFStudio. Someone suggested to me that FrontPage might foul things up because of Personal Web Server or som
RE: wow...
I agree. John McKown Founder, DECFUG.org (Delaware Cold Fusion Users Group) VP Business Services, Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wow... THANK GOD! This is the best thing to ever happen to Allaire. (wishing I had bought stock in Allaire) -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Fax: (714) 972-2181 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- -Original Message- From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: quot problem
Funny, I can't find anything in my Forta books on that tag. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: quot problem At 10:02 1/15/01 -0600, you wrote: There is also a CF Function to deal just with single quotes in data, oddly enough called PreserveSingleQuote. Double quotes inside single-quoted text shouldn't be a problem. But shouldn't everyone be using CFQUERYPARAM? Its faster and more secure, and has no problems with quotes. R ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Web Based SQL Manager
Doesn't SQL Server 2000 have a web client? I thought I heard somewhere that it does. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web Based SQL Manager Er, that would be TCP/IP. They have nothing to do with the Web. At 10:43 AM 1/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: What's wrong with Enterprise Manager and Query Analyzer ... they work across the web just fine. Bill Reichard Willow Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.willowgold.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SESSION Timing out WAY before it's supposed to.
If removing those double quotes is the culprit, then the "Mastering Cold Fusion 4" book has a major misprint in it. I am trying this solution on for size now. If it fixes this problem, then this tip WILL be worth its weight in gold for me too. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Kinley Pon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SESSION Timing out WAY before it's supposed to. Man...that tip is worth it's weight in GOLD. justme Kinley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SESSION Timing out WAY before it's supposed to. I have an application that stores a variable in SESSION scope ... the application is set to timeout after 12 hours, however, when users login and begin working, after about 10-15 minutes, they get logged out. CFServer is set to hold SESSIONs for 12 hours as is the application its self. My only thought is this: Does the SESSION variable have to be set in the Application.cfm file in order for it to use the 12 hour timeout? The variable is currently being set in the index.cfm page while the cfapplication tag that sets the timeout is in the Application.cfm page. CFAPPLICATION name="TRR_ADMIN" sessionmanagement="Yes" setclientcookies="Yes" sessiontimeout="#CreateTimeSpan(0,12,00,0)#" Joshua, Remove the double-quotes from the sessiontimeout parameter. That's burned me more than once. :) (And make that double-zero a single zero.) Ron Allen Hornbaker President/CTO Humankind Systems, Inc. http://humankindsystems.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Contract
We have built hundred of sites, and I would not build one without a contract. What works for us is to have a boilerplate contract that covers the basic stuff, then add EXHIBITS to the boilerplate for the things that vary from job to job. Boilerplate Stuff: - Confidentiality - Design Timeline - Responsibilities - Content Ownership - Hosting - Use of Copywritten Material - Deadlines for Content Submission - Local Law Provisions - Indemnification - Terms of Service - etc. Exhibits: - Scope of work - Re-Occurring Fees (like hosting) - Maintenance Fees - Installation Fees - Hardware - Payment Terms Hope that helps. I would NEVER build a site without ALL of this. A web site application and a verbal agreement are much to subjective to hold up in a court of law. Make sure that they initial EVERY page, too. Good clients will respect you for your thoroughness. Bad clients get weeded out and save you time and money. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Scott Weikert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Contract I agree with you on the preference of the verbal agreement... but as someone who found out yesterday that his 'verbal agreement' contract is getting cut short due to financial cutbacks, and getting all of two weeks' notice, I'm starting to tend more toward the 'put it on paper' philosophy --Scott (looking for a new gig in Denver *grin*) - Original Message - From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: RE: Contract Yes .. and also, without that contract with the label, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have gotten that 1/2 that you did. ;) Of course. I guess I should have qualified my opinion (and that's all it was of course) by stating that the size of the engagement obviously should come into play when deciding whether or not to have a document. I guess I prefer the small, friendly kind where a verbal agreement is enough. In the end, it's up to the consultant to determine their own comfort level working with or without the contract. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Query confusion - CF not recognising query name
What about removing the "variables." scope? John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Query confusion - CF not recognising query name I just took out the and #PreserveSingleQuotes(variables.whereList)# --- set some variables and it worked fine for me. What's in the wherelist?? It ran fine for me. cf 4.01 on Windows 2000 server. Jeff Craig cfset variables.peopletable = "users" cfset variables.idlist = "1,2,3,4,5,6" cfset form.orderby = "email" cfquery name="getPeopleInfo" datasource="voluma" blockfactor=100 select ID from #variables.peopleTable# (nolock) where ID in (#variables.IDList#) order by #form.OrderBy# /cfquery cfset variables.IDCount=getPeopleInfo.RecordCount cfoutput#variables.idcount#/cfoutput ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: !-#include file=cfFile.cfm -
Why not use an IFRAME? John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Eric Fickes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: !-#include file="cfFile.cfm" - Hello all, Has anyone ever included a cfm file inside of a .html file? I've got an HTML page that I would like to include a small CF page inside of and I can't seem to get it to work. I've tried the following !-#include file="cfFile.cfm" - !-#include virtual="cfFile.cfm" - and neither seem to do anything. Any ideas? E ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
SQL Queries on Irish last names that have an apostrophe
I hope this is an easy question for you SQL gurus. I am not sure why someone would want an apostrophe in their last name, :) but I need to know how to get around that when writing SQL queries that search records for last names contain apostrophes. Here is a sample query that loops through the search form fields and builds a dynamic query: CFQUERY NAME="SearchMembers" DATASOURCE="#DB#" SELECT * FROM #MemberTable# WHERE 0 = 0 CFLOOP INDEX=ThisField LIST="#FORM.FIELDNAMES#" CFIF #Evaluate(ThisField)# IS NOT "" AND #ThisField# LIKE '#Evaluate(ThisField)#%' /CFIF /CFLOOP /CFQUERY And here is what gets rendered when we pass some Irish name: SELECT * FROM Lawyers WHERE 0 = 0 AND LNAME LIKE 'o'donnell'% And of course, this produces a SQL error. Anyone have tips for getting around this and still being able to search for names that contain an apostrophe? Thanks in advance. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL Queries on Irish last names that have an apostrophe
Yes, that was a typo. The % is actually within the quotes. I tried using '' to escape the last name and I still get an error. I also tried the PreserveSingleQuotes to no avail. Ugh. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Troy Leaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SQL Queries on Irish last names that have an apostrophe With most SQL databases, you can get around this by escaping the apostrophe with another apostrophe, so that your query reads: SELECT * FROM Lawyers WHERE 0 = 0 AND LNAME LIKE 'o''donnell'% I also noticed that your wildcard is outside your string delimiters. I'm assuming that's a typo in your post; it would cause a problem too :). W. Troy Leaver Systems Development Consultant Solution Specialists, Inc. 888-668-9193 -- Original Message -- From: "John McKown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:48:19 -0500 I hope this is an easy question for you SQL gurus. I am not sure why someone would want an apostrophe in their last name, :) but I need to know how to get around that when writing SQL queries that search records for last names contain apostrophes. Here is a sample query that loops through the search form fields and builds a dynamic query: CFQUERY NAME="SearchMembers" DATASOURCE="#DB#" SELECT * FROM #MemberTable# WHERE 0 = 0 CFLOOP INDEX=ThisField LIST="#FORM.FIELDNAMES#" CFIF #Evaluate(ThisField)# IS NOT "" AND #ThisField# LIKE '#Evaluate(ThisField)#%' /CFIF /CFLOOP /CFQUERY And here is what gets rendered when we pass some Irish name: SELECT * FROM Lawyers WHERE 0 = 0 AND LNAME LIKE 'o'donnell'% And of course, this produces a SQL error. Anyone have tips for getting around this and still being able to search for names that contain an apostrophe? Thanks in advance. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFFTP -- INVALID PORT COMMAND
There is a thread on the Allaire Forums on the "Invalid Port Command" error where Allaire claims it is a bug and will not be fixed until Version 5.0. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: James McCullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFFTP -- INVALID PORT COMMAND The only time I got this was when connecting to a Linux box and FTP had terminated. Restarting the FTP on the Linux box fixed it. -Original Message- From: Sean Renet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFFTP -- INVALID PORT COMMAND nope thought that might have been it, but I took the firewall down and tried and still got the error - Original Message - From: "JustinMacCarthy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: RE: CFFTP -- INVALID PORT COMMAND Firewall issue ?? ~Justin -Original Message- From: Sean Renet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 12:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFFTP -- INVALID PORT COMMAND Anyone ever see this error in your CFCATCH stuff using CFFTP? UNKNOWN 500 Invalid PORT Command. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FileLocking error with CFFile
I am getting the same exact error, and I was just looking to this list for an answer. I am posting this to keep the thread alive and see if anyone has a solution. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: FW: FileLocking error with CFFile Any ideas with this? This error message is displayed (at random) when attempting to overwrite a file using CFFILE action = "Move" The code works most of the time, but sometimes displays this error - if the error is displayed, then waiting a couple of mins and hitting refresh, will normally execute the cffile fine. It appears as if the file is getting locked for some reason. This is in an admin backend, and is executed just after a preview of the existing gif file has been shown (might IIS be locking it?) Can anyone help suggest a reason/solution? otherwise it means a partial rewrite of the backend... -Original Message- From: Paul Lowton Sent: 08 December 2000 15:17 To: Daniel Lancelot Subject: == Error Diagnostic Information Error processing CFFILE Unable to move file 'c:\web_sites\brearleyGreens2\public\fileStore\residential\picsoth er\temp\pi cin1137167269.gif' to path 'c:\web_sites\brearleyGreens2\public\fileStore\residential\picsoth er\picin11 37167269.gif'. Access is denied. (error 5) The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFFILE), occupying document position (90:3) to (92:108). Date/Time: 12/08/00 15:21:49 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0) Remote Address: 195.226.55.82 HTTP Referer: ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Delaware CFUG Meeting December 13th
The Delaware CFUG is meeting on December 13th. We have a guest speaker that will discuss CFHTTP. For more information, please visit http://www.decfug.org. Thanks. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF-based management-tool for a great number of web-sites
Isn't that what a Cobalt server is for? ;) John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 302-736-5515 Fax: 302-736-5945 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF-based management-tool for a great number of web-sites Hi list, a company called Trident Inc. ( www.trident.net ) has got a neat product. It is called Domain Master. (At least it sounds nice on their Web-Site) It is based on ColdFusion. They write: --- We have designed Domain Master to ease the burden of Web site management for Internet Service Providers, Commerce Service Providers, Associations or Organizations with multiple web sites. Domain Master enables these organizations to manage their eCommerce storefronts, their customers' web sites, the e-mail accounts, web statistics and web accounting from any location in the world using a simple web browser. If Trident's OSM eCommerce software is purchased with Domain Master, it establishes a totally integrated eCommerce hosting operation. Does anybody know this product ? I sent them out an E-Mail two weeks ago and asked for an eval-copy but didn't get any answer. Does someone know of any other products doing the same ? Thank you. Uwe Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: www.sdsolutions.de ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!
I just cannot stand Nutscrape. Once upon a time, I rooted for them as the underdog to M$. But the browser was outpaced by M$, and the browser war was won. Over. End of story. Shortly thereafter, another soon-to-be monopoly (AOL) bought Nutscrape, and its destiny was charted to certain suckiness. Netscape was just another advertising platform for AOHELL (like ICQ). That is when I decided to seriously consider abandoning worry of cross-browser compatibility. I agree with the other post that mentioned that ALL browsers should be W3C compliant. AOL should spend less time squeezing ads into Netcenter and more time fixing their browser. It surprises me that Sun would not come to the rescue of AOHELL and help them with their JavaScript implementation. Boardwatch Magazine had a great new tagline for AOL: "You're so easy to use, no wonder we are number one" my 2 cents. :) John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH - Original Message - From: "Scott, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH Correct me if I am wrong, but mozilla being the very first offical browser. Has set the standard others have to face and is where the w3c use to filter the standards across the board. I think you mean Mosaic, which was one of the first browsers (anyone remember Cello?), Mosaic was free but was customised and improved by several companies including spyglass whose browser later became MS Internet Explorer. Mosaic was programmed by Marc Andresson (sp?) who later became a founder of Netscape, when the Netscape browser went open source the working/code title of the new browser was Mozilla - this is also known as Netscape 6 although anybody can use the rendering engine to build their own browser. As far as Netscape 6 having JavaScript problems, they are almost certainly caused by code which doesn't conform to standards, it is supposed to be the most standards compliant browser ever - although until all the reviews and tests are done I will reserve judgement ;) -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Blocking IPs
Here you go Juandres: http://www.decfug.org/SampleCode/BlockIPs/ John McKown, VP Business Services - Delaware.Net, Inc. Founder, Delaware Cold Fusion Users Group 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blocking IPs Hello everyone, Someone has experience in blocking the access to some IP number in CF ? We have a potential information robber and we are trying to block him. ideas? ~Juandres -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: session variable help
Try this: CFCOOKIE NAME="cfid" EXPIRES="now" CFCOOKIE NAME="cftoken" EXPIRES="now" CFCOOKIE NAME="cfglobals" EXPIRES="now" John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: S R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: session variable help Can a session variable be deleted when a page is called, so that when you use a cfparam tag it is as if the session variable did not exist? Thanks _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Blocking IPs
Enjoy: http://www.decfug.org/SampleCode/BlockIPs John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blocking IPs Hello everyone, Someone has experience in blocking the access to some IP number in CF ? We have a potential information robber and we are trying to block him. ideas? ~Juandres -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Blocking IPs
I have an application that I built that does this pretty well. It blocks IPs tanges, Phrases, Names, or email addresses. I will be happy to share it with you. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blocking IPs Hello everyone, Someone has experience in blocking the access to some IP number in CF ? We have a potential information robber and we are trying to block him. ideas? ~Juandres -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Delaware CFUG
Simon, Thanks for the help. WE plan to have the first meeting at out company's offices here in Dover Delaware. Dover is Delaware's capital, which is located centrally in the state. Directions can be found at http://www.decfug.org. Thanks again. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Delaware CFUG I'm in DC, and go to them here, but I'd be interested in knowing where in DE you're going to have them, because I know a lot of people in the SE PA and DE area and some of them may be interested. ~Simon -Original Message- From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: New Delaware CFUG I am forming a Delaware Cold Fusion Users Group. If anyone on the list lives in/near Delaware and is interested, please visit http://www.decfug.org for more information. Our first meeting is next month. Please let me know if you plan to attend. Thanks. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
LOL... Good point. :)
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Ok, I think we have a winner.
James Lawrence from Freeserve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) submitted a little
JavaScript that does the job well on the client side. This was the
Its only a winner if Javascript is turned on. :)
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-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 2:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Ok, I think we have a winner.
James Lawrence from Freeserve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) submitted a little
JavaScript that does the job well on the client side. This was the
smallest, cleanest, fastest method that anyone submitted. I added the
second line to make sure that all other letters after the
first were lower
case.
Enjoy:
SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT"
!--
function capitalizeMe(obj) {
val = obj.value.toLowerCase();
newVal = '';
val = val.split(' ');
for(var c=0; c val.length; c++) {
newVal += val[c].substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
val[c].substring(1,val[c].length) + ' ';
}
obj.value = newVal;
}
--
/SCRIPT
FORM NAME="TEST"
INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="TESTER" onChange="capitalizeMe(this)"
/FORM
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Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Can someone share a script that will capitalize the first letter of every word entered into a form field? John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Thanks. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word Duh - Brain Fart - sorry - I DIDN'T read your whole question. This will do only a couple of words effeciently. Dave (egg on face) - Original Message - From: "Dave Hannum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word CFSET First_Name = "dave" CFSET Last_Name = "hannum" CFSET First = #LCase(First_Name)# CFSET FirstName = "#UCase(left(First, 1))##mid(First, 2, len(First) - 1)#" CFSET Last = #LCase(Last_Name)# CFSET LastName = "#UCase(left(Last, 1))##mid(Last, 2, len(Last) - 1)#" CFOUTPUT#FirstName# #LastName#/CFOUTPUT = "What we need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter" David Hannum Web Analyst/Programmer Ohio University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (740) 597-2524 - Original Message - From: "John McKown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:35 AM Subject: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word Can someone share a script that will capitalize the first letter of every word entered into a form field? John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Awesome. Thanks for the fast replies everyone.
John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 302-736-5515
fax: 302-736-5945
icq: 1495432
-Original Message-
From: James Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
John,
Here's a javascript version ( haven't tested it properly, but it should be
ok )
SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT"
!--
function capitalizeMe(obj) {
val = obj.value;
newVal = '';
val = val.split(' ');
for(var c=0; c val.length; c++) {
newVal += val[c].substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
val[c].substring(1,val[c].length) + ' ';
}
obj.value = newVal;
}
// --
/SCRIPT
FORM NAME="TEST"
INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="TESTER" onChange="capitalizeMe(this)"
/FORM
James Lawrence, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Developer, Freeserve.com Plc
The Observatory, 36-41 Clerkenwell Close, Finsbury, London. EC1R OAU
Telephone: 02075534832 Mobile: 07971024911
-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 October 2000 13:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Can someone share a script that will capitalize the
first letter of every word entered into a form field?
John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
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fax: 302-736-5945
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RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Hrmm. For some reason I don't think my post was accepted by the cf-talk
list daemon.
If you could also post this on the list if it's not already there, thanks
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Bevill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
John McKown,
Here ya go man. I only had about 10 mins to write this, hope it works. :)
!--- l33t w3rd fixer v1.0 ---
!--- Jeff Bevill - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
cfset Variable="UnBeLiEvAbLe"
cfif isDefined("Variable") and Len(Variable) GT 0
cfset in="1"
cfset out="0"
cfset word_state=out
cfset NewStr=""
cfset is_space=false
cfloop index=i from=1 to=#Len(Variable)#
cfset Character=Mid(Variable, i, 1)
cfif Character is " "
cfset word_state=out
cfset NewStr=NewStr Character
cfelseif Asc(Character) GE Asc("a") and Asc(Character) LE Asc("z") and
word_state EQ out
cfset word_state=in
cfset NewStr=NewStr UCase(Character)
cfelseif Asc(Character) GE Asc("A") and Asc(Character) LE Asc("Z") and
word_state EQ in
cfset NewStr=NewStr LCase(Character)
cfelse
cfset word_state=in
cfset NewStr=NewStr Character
/cfif
/cfloop
cfset Variable=NewStr
cfoutput[#Variable#] - [#NewStr#]/cfoutput
/cfif
Jeff Bevill
-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Can someone share a script that will capitalize the
first letter of every word entered into a form field?
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RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
ok, cool. Thanks.
John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901
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phone: 302-736-5515
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-Original Message-
From: James Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
You could always lowercase the whole string by changing the first
line to :
val = obj.value.toLowerCase();
-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 October 2000 14:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
This JavaScript DOES work, in the sense that it capitalizes the
first letter of each word, but it does not prevent kids from
entering stuff like this: "UnBeLiEvAbLe".
John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 302-736-5515
fax: 302-736-5945
icq: 1495432
-Original Message-
From: James Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
John,
Here's a javascript version ( haven't tested it properly, but
it should be
ok )
SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT"
!--
function capitalizeMe(obj) {
val = obj.value;
newVal = '';
val = val.split(' ');
for(var c=0; c val.length; c++) {
newVal += val[c].substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
val[c].substring(1,val[c].length) + ' ';
}
obj.value = newVal;
}
// --
/SCRIPT
FORM NAME="TEST"
INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="TESTER" onChange="capitalizeMe(this)"
/FORM
James Lawrence, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Developer, Freeserve.com Plc
The Observatory, 36-41 Clerkenwell Close, Finsbury, London. EC1R OAU
Telephone: 02075534832 Mobile: 07971024911
-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 October 2000 13:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capitalize First Letter of Each Word
Can someone share a script that will capitalize the
first letter of every word entered into a form field?
John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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fax: 302-736-5945
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RE: Cardservice International
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000__01C03D09.BD1DF130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is the manual for the tag. We are installing it now as a matter of fact. John McKown, VP Business Services Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 fax: 302-736-5945 icq: 1495432 -Original Message- From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 2:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cardservice International h... I've never dealt with Linkpoint, just CSI as a bank. When i used CSI as the merchant we were using cybercash as the gateway. Cybercash will eat you alive in fees though. If linkpoint can be accessed through a regular HTML form then absolutely, it would take 15 minutes to build yourself a CF_linkpoint tag. Steve "Neil H." wrote: I would like to know if you could interface as easily with CSI's Linkpoint as with Authorize Net's Gateway That was the original question. Neil - Original Message - From: "Steve Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Cardservice International They're pretty good, i've used them in the past. You can probably find better rates than what they offer. Honestly, i haven't noticed a difference between any of the merchant banks other than their rates. You almost rarely ever have to deal with them, although I'm not doing millions of transactions a day, so I can't speak for problems involved with those numbers of transactions. CardService is one of the biggest merchant banks if not the biggest. Try and negotiate a better deal with them, do a simple search on yahoo for "accept credit cards", get the rates from other merchant banks before you pick one. You might also take a look at Authorize.net, integrating authorize.net is much easier and cheaper than something like cybercash. It's just a simple https form, there are a couple free CF_authorizenet tags out there. Steve Nelson Howie Hamlin wrote: Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with Cardservice International as a payment provider? They have an available ColdFusion tag that can be used for on-line transactions. From their literature: = To support storefront development in Windows platforms, Cardservice has developed a custom ColdFusion Tag, which provides the same functionality as the API. The LinkPoint ColdFusion Tag (LCFX)is a built-in utility to be used with the LinkPoint API. LCFX provides all the functionality of the LinkPoint API and eliminates the necessity of the user knowing C++. For more information, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or download the manual. = Thanks in advance, Howie Hamlin -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --=_NextPart_000__01C03D09.BD1DF130 Content-Type: application/pdf; name="LCFX.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="LCFX.pdf" JVBERi0xLjIgDSXi48/TDQogDTEyIDAgb2JqDTw8DS9MZW5ndGggMTMgMCBSDS9GaWx0ZXIgL0Zs YXRlRGVjb2RlIA0+Pg1zdHJlYW0NCkiJ3VPLbsIwEPyC/MMe4RBn/bavQCNVolIPadVDLlELiBYF KYD6+7W9eVA49N7kYq3GszOz60WVeQSrDBMaoFplCPHvdpAVJYJnNpa3oQzVO+TIuEuVb5jBH98c qs/MCohXV/8XnqBGxPwIHUJCY1NeSEmt9+3X83HfnmuhTcI/9LGrmK8yNt2O524D22xRZVJpkG4c SmD0bhhBf74lhuXx8FFeTvtjC1Wzg5fTpjuRPK5w
