Re: CF vs LAMP
Comments inline. --- Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. MS SQL costs, MySQL does not Well, that's not exactly true. These days you can purchase a MySQL Network subscription that includes 'certified' software that has several performance enhancements over the regular distributable. 2. MS SQL has Stored Procedures and other features missing from MySQL MySQL supports stored procedures, foreign keys and transactions at this point (some of these features are still in beta). 3. MS SQL easier to maintain There are a number of GUIs for managing MySQL databases these days, among them phpmyadmin. It's a stripped down web client that I find easier to use than Enterprise Manager. 4. IIS sucks Yep. 5. IIS is easier to maintain and work with than Apache Not necessarily true, especially over time. Once you nail down what it is you are trying to do with Apache, it pretty much just works no matter what else you do to your system. With IIS, the latest service packs always seem to mess something up... 6. CF costs, Perl is free 7. Perl is a pain to read, write, and maintain unless your very well versed in perl That really depends on how the Perl code was written and what conventions were used within the code. I have run into some extraordinarily bad CF apps over the years that had me yearning for Perl's tight syntax. 8. CF is easy to read, write and maintain even if your not very well versed in CF See above. The cost for MS SQL/CF is more in the short run, but when you get into programming time, new features, maintance and all MS SQL/CF wins hands down and is less than what would be paid over time with LAMP. That's speculative unless you are talking about the unique features CF possesses (things like Flashpaper). One thing LAMP has going for it over CF in terms of support over time is the huge number of content management systems that are currently out there and can be used as frameworks for new applications. Whereas with CF I spend a fair amount of time on each project working out the structural details of the project up front, with LAMP I typically spend a short amount of time considering relative benefits to going with one CMS platform over another. In terms of long term support, I would argue LAMP actually has the upper hand because most of the widely available CMS platforms out there are peer-reviewed and widely available. Finding a good CF programmer is a challenge, but finding a good Mambo, PHP-Nuke, Drupal, Wordpress or Scoop developer is not that difficult. M We have a client that is trying to decide whether to go with my company or another company. We are a CF/MS SQL shop, and the other company does LAMP development (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl). I was wondering if anyone on this list can give some ideas of the pros and cons of using CF/MS SQL vs LAMP. I know for a fact that perl code is harder to read and maintain, and that's it's probably slower since it's interpreted every time instead of pre-compiled as CF is. I know MS SQL has more features (such as stored procs) that MySQL lacks. What other pros does CF/MySQL have over LAMP that might sway a potential client? Personally, except for the fact that LAMP is free, I don't see any advantages of it at all. Thanks, Russ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF vs LAMP
Comments inline. --- Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. MS SQL costs, MySQL does not Well, that's not exactly true. These days you can purchase a MySQL Network subscription that includes 'certified' software that has several performance enhancements over the regular distributable. 2. MS SQL has Stored Procedures and other features missing from MySQL MySQL supports stored procedures, foreign keys and transactions at this point (some of these features are still in beta). 3. MS SQL easier to maintain There are a number of GUIs for managing MySQL databases these days, among them phpmyadmin. It's a stripped down web client that I find easier to use than Enterprise Manager. 4. IIS sucks Yep. 5. IIS is easier to maintain and work with than Apache Not necessarily true, especially over time. Once you nail down what it is you are trying to do with Apache, it pretty much just works no matter what else you do to your system. With IIS, the latest service packs always seem to mess something up... 6. CF costs, Perl is free 7. Perl is a pain to read, write, and maintain unless your very well versed in perl That really depends on how the Perl code was written and what conventions were used within the code. I have run into some extraordinarily bad CF apps over the years that had me yearning for Perl's tight syntax. 8. CF is easy to read, write and maintain even if your not very well versed in CF See above. The cost for MS SQL/CF is more in the short run, but when you get into programming time, new features, maintance and all MS SQL/CF wins hands down and is less than what would be paid over time with LAMP. That's speculative unless you are talking about the unique features CF possesses (things like Flashpaper). One thing LAMP has going for it over CF in terms of support over time is the huge number of content management systems that are currently out there and can be used as frameworks for new applications. Whereas with CF I spend a fair amount of time on each project working out the structural details of the project up front, with LAMP I typically spend a short amount of time considering relative benefits to going with one CMS platform over another. In terms of long term support, I would argue LAMP actually has the upper hand because most of the widely available CMS platforms out there are peer-reviewed and widely available. Finding a good CF programmer is a challenge, but finding a good Mambo, PHP-Nuke, Drupal, Wordpress or Scoop developer is not that difficult. M ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208083 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
I, for one, welcome our new Adobe photoshop overlords. M --- Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even better Ben Forta's new book, Photoshop CS2 in 21 days Kevin. -Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?! I predict a new tag cfpsd Oh dear. Kevin. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! Heh, I never even said hello. I think I'm going to reinstall CF Studio 4.5 just so I can have some Allaire back in my life. Ah, those were the days, back before their stock took a dump... Pete On 4/18/05, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great say goodbye to flash paper... Adam H ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203312 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
I am not saying I know anything private here, but I do not really see a reason to be concerned. In fact, this could be really, really good for CF. Adobe has been trying all sorts of ways to get into open source for the last couple of years. Would not be terribly surprised to see CF become a purely open source product. M --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe is not adverse to servers. They have a document server that can be used to dynamically generate pdfs http://www.adobe.com/products/server/documentserver/main.html Could be good could be bad. Adobe is a pretty good company though so I personally am trying to not jump to any conclusions. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203317 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Intercepting Flash....?
Okay, to break this down: 1) You have a Flash movie that posts varaibles to a CF page 2) You would like to stop the movie once the variables have been posted One way you *might* be able to do this is with javascript. Depending on how the author built the movie, you may be able to issue a stop command to control playback. Tutorial on javascript to Flash communication here: http://www.moock.org/webdesign/flash/fscommand/. The one difficulty I see with this is detecting when Flash is submitting data. I have seen some complicated listener schemes built before, but they were definitely browser specific and required some knowledge of the internals of the Flash movie. M --- Richard Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I'm explaining this right. We have a Flash movie built by someone else outside of our department. The movie takes in a number of values and then sends them to a Cold Fusion script to send the values to the instructor via e-mail cfmail . The Flash movie then continues. I would like to be able to display all of the values that are sent by the movie prior to the values being sent by cfmail. I've tried putting a simple cfdump in the same script with the cfmail tag, but that did not do the job. Any thoughts? Have I made myself clear at all? -- Richard S. Crawford Programmer III UC Davis Extension Distance Education Group (http://unexdlc.ucdavis.edu) 2901 K Street, Suite 200C Sacramento, CA 95816 (916)327-7793 ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187141 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Mambo CMS server
Aaron - My company has done extensive work implementing and customizing modules within Mambo. The framework is very modularized and developing a plug-in is very similar to what someone would do in Mach-II. You may wish to look on mamboforge.net for examples of how other people have done this. M --- Aaron DC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any experience extending / embedding CF or PHP in Mambo? Wondering really if it's possible to do so. I'll look at the site but if someone already has some experience... Thanks Aaron Atomic Software http://www.atomic-software.com.au phone: +61 409 430 231 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186577 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: For the kids
Not a CF solution, but... Last year, my child's extremely underfunded soccer organization faced a similar situation. A good number of the participating families qualify for reduced / free registration and there aren't enough operating funds for jerseys, trophies, etc. We wanted to publish a 'scrapbook' with names and photos of every child participating, team records, and information about the league. We tried to get advertisement dollars from local businesses but were unable to find enough suitable sponsors. Put up a community Web site using Mambo CMS and used the community builder plug in to collect pictures and profiles for all the players. Had to make some simple customizations to capture info specific to the teams kids played on. Coordinated with her school librarian and the public library to train parents on how to use it. Built a script in Jasper Reports to generate the scrapbook as a PDF document for people to download. We printed 20 copies as giveaways at Kinko's on high quality glossy paper and used some heavy report covers from Staples to make them more durable. We did find a local printer, btw, who offered to bind the scrapbooks cheaply for anyone who was interested. But the scrapbook came out perfect and families loved them. Technologies Involved: Linux / Apache / MySQL / PHP Mambo CMS w/ plug-ins from MamboForge Jasper Reports The Gimp Total Time Commitment: 4 hours installing, customizing and testing Mambo Several hours spent in libraries teaching librarians how to do put in player profiles Maybe 2 hours buying printouts and covers Total Cost: $2.80 per book to print on high-quality paper at Kinkos About $15 for covers from Staples Time M --- Eric Creese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With school budgets ever so tightening, my child's school is having a problem with getting the funds together as well volunteers for their annual yearbook. I was thinking hey put it online, but then no one can actually save it or have a copy to get people to sign. But if it were on line and then downloaded as a file on someone's machine, they could print it off themselves on their home computer. Plus years from now when they loose theirs they could down load it again from the school site. Anyone got any ideas for this? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:184156 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Stupid newbie question about databases
Chrisitian - You are not limited to using a Mac to connect to a Filemaker database. Filemaker 5 and above includes an ODBC driver for Windows which you could use to connect to the database. There are open source drivers available for Linux as well, check Sourceforge and Freshmeat for your particular needs. While Filemaker is a useful product, I am not convinced it is production grade mostly because of it's lack of support for transactions and the fact even the Server editions place limitations on the number of concurrent users. Fixing a corrupted Filemaker db is a challenge I would not wish upon my worst enemy. An alternative you may wish to consider is MySQL. It is free, works on Mac / Windows / Linux, and is far more scalable. Migrating from FM to MySQL is not difficult and an article about the process is available here: http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/filemaker_mysql_whitepaper/filemaker_to_mysql_whitepaper01.htm. M --- Christian Kavanagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, cfignorance If I write a database on Filemaker Pro for my Mac, and then upload it to my FTP server: does the server have to also be a Mac, or will CF work with it anyway? /cfignorance Thanks! CK. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:184165 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: 3 gmail invites
While I don't know the actual formula, there is some kind of wierd exponential growth formula at work. The number of gmail invites you get is dependent on when you signed up, the number of invites you send out, and the number of invites people you have invited send out. M Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling it's random I've never used my account beyond setting it up but I've gotten two invites so far. Jim Davis From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: 3 gmail invites I havent gotten any invites yet! Anyone know how they determine who gets to invite(usage stats, etc)? or is it just random? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: OT: 3 gmail invites
Some people have unlimited invites... M Brian Meloche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be sending out the invites if I ever got any to send out!!! :-( [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: (OT) Firewall
Personally, I use IPTables for network firewall protection, both because of the price and the ease of use. For me, it is simpler to crank out a list of rules on the command line than to trust some GUI that may or may not be doing what it says it is doing. Also, as a Flash developer who sometimes works with 'wierd ports', being able to configure NAT on the fly is incredibly useful. M Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a god network firewall system? Zonealarm is good for a single machine, but I think that mothernature.com needs a system wide firewall. What do you use, what do you suggest? Thanks -- Michael Dinowitz http://www.houseoffusion.com For all your ColdFusion needs [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Repeating Headers and Footers
This is kind of a wierd question. I am generating reports using ColdFusion and saving the content as HTML with a .xls format. My client would like to be able to have personalized headers and footers that appear on each page of the report, for instance: employee name, title of report, page numbers, etc. Each report runs about 10 pages, and formatting is important for these reports. What I was thinking is there is some sort of hybrid html / vbscript approach that would allow me to automate some of these items once opened by Excel, but thus far I am finding the program ignores VBScript written into HTML. I want to avoid a complete vbscript solution fo generating the reports, because they are created on the server side on a Solaris box. Anyone have any advice on creating repeating headers and footers thru Excel using just HTML? M [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Repeating Headers and Footers
Answered my own question, sharing the answer with the list.
The following code is a sample I am using on one of my reports. The CSS creates repeating headers and footers on an Excel worksheet written in HTML:
style
@page {
mso-header-data:CFOUTPUT#request.report_summary#/CFOUTPUT;
mso-footer-data:CFOUTPUT#request.report_footer#/CFOUTPUT;
}
/style
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Michael Haggerty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is kind of a wierd question. I am generating reports using ColdFusion and saving the content as HTML with a .xls format. My client would like to be able to have personalized headers and footers that appear on each page of the report, for instance: employee name, title of report, page numbers, etc. Each report runs about 10 pages, and formatting is important for these reports.
What I was thinking is there is some sort of hybrid html / vbscript approach that would allow me to automate some of these items once opened by Excel, but thus far I am finding the program ignores VBScript written into HTML.
I want to avoid a complete vbscript solution fo generating the reports, because they are created on the server side on a Solaris box.
Anyone have any advice on creating repeating headers and footers thru Excel using just HTML?
M
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Re: Mach-II
Actually, this is an exact quote of what you said: 'But when everybody says OOP allows or enables, or whatever, re-using the code, it promotes the idea that no code was re-used before, and THIS is just not true. OPP makes re-using code just a bit more systematic, no more, and good programers will still re-use code just as before, and even with OOP, bad programmers may not.' M Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as it is was Claude's choice to read OO allows code reuse as OO allows code reuse for the first time in the history of mankind. C'mon, please be honest, this is NOT either what I said. But when some one says OO allows code reuse it is AT LEAST presented as an advantage, either because it does it better, OR because other solutions don't allow it. What I say, is that in both cases it is just a false statement. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: DUPLICATES (MIKE DINOWITZ PLEASE READ)
This message is severely off topic. Please move to CF-COMMUNITY. M This message is severely off topic. Please move to CF-COMMUNITY. M Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who in the us doesn't have off Monday? even govt has off that day?right? outta here... Government and Banks are the types that are guaranteed to have Monday off.I don't know about members of this list.But people who my not have Monday off are Hospital/Emergency workers, restaurant, hotel, sales people.Other then the Self-Employed developer, maybe ones who work in small, struggling company may not have Monday off. But if you do.Don't drink and drive and have a great weekend.Even if you don't have Monday off don't drink and drive - just not a good idea. Confidentiality Notice:This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Mach-II
Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So called re-usable code is not proper to Fuse Box, OOP or any framework. Re-usable code is just a basic technique that has always been used by any good programmer, period. I think you are missing the point that each framework emphasises highly decoupled coding practices to reduce the cost of supporting applications over time and increase the resusability of code. These things could be achieved other ways, but some people look at that as reinventing the wheel. This is not something Fusebox or Mach-II make exclusive claims to, but it is something application developers often ignore on their own. Pretending that OOP or any new technique has introduced re-usable code is the greater joke of all the computer industry in 50 years! ;-)) Agreed, pretending to have introduced something that has been around for a long time is shameful. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever claimed Fusebox or Mach-II are the only way to accomplish this. This is a core synthetic capability of the framework based on the features of the scripting language the application is built with. So I don't really understand your argument. Frameworks, OOP are just like sects: they set up rules for those who don't know how to behave by themselves; they are just hobble for others. Frameworks are a means to achieve a predictable result in application development in terms of using a commonly understood set of rules about how an application is organized, designed, and engineered. But I believe we are really just splitting hairs here. Are you saying that every developer on a project should naturally 'know how to behave' and that members of their team should not burden them with boundaries? I think a lot of people would strongly disagree with that idea. M [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Mach-II
Maybe I am just living in a hole, but I have never heard anyone say OOP is the original way to reuse code. It sounds like you are complaining that you took something someone said to imply an absurd idea, which by no means makes it true that anyone actually ever said that. Perhaps you can point to a place where someone has claimed OOP is the original means of reusing code? M Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever claimed Fusebox or Mach-II are the only way to accomplish this. I was not speaking about Fusebox in particular, but about OOP in general. And I did not say that OOP claims it is the only way to accomplish this. But when everybody says OOP allows or enables, or whatever, re-using the code, it promotes the idea that no code was re-used before, and THIS is just not true. OPP makes re-using code just a bit more systematic, no more, and good programers will still re-use code just as before, and even with OOP, bad programmers may not. -- ___ See some cool custom tags here: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Mach-II
I'm people. I would not read it that way. Was there supposed to be a disclaimer stating someone else did this before? M Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you can point to a place where someone has claimed OOP is the original means of reusing code? No one will claim this in such an acurate way, but one can read alomost every where, like for instance here: http://www.developerfusion.com/show/80/3/ that OOP allows developers to reuse code and data together through inheritance. Now this tends to make people believe that code reuse was not allowed or possible before OOP and inheritance, and this is just not true. Then another one: By inheriting from predefined objects, developers can more rapidly construct complex applications. Since writing new code always has the potential for incorporating bugs, reusing tested code minimizes the chances of additional bugs. This is absolutely fallacious: this almost claims that there was no predefined objects before OOP and that one had to rewrite code in order to reuse it. This not only completely false, it is absolutely ridiculous. Wether some code lies inside a library, in another part of the code or in an OOP object, one can reuse it AND make bugs by not using it the right way, just as well. -- ___ See some cool custom tags here: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT: Mach-II
Last summer, there was a lot of optimism on this list surrounding the release of Mach-II and it's object oriented approach to ColdFusion. Having tried it on a few projects and decided Fusebox was better suited for what I was doing, I am now considering it for a larger project my team is about to commence (approx. 9,500 man hours over a 7 month period). One of my main concerns is having to train people to work within this framework, I remain one of three or four people in my organization who have actually heard of Mach-II. There is some resistance based on people's unfamiliarity with it and the perception other frameworks are more widely used. This got me to wondering about how much Mach-II is actually being used, so I am conducting one of those unscientific polls about technology usage: - Does your organization use Mach-II? - Care to comment on how your organization has benefited from using it? M [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Mach-II
Tom - Actually, I'm not going to reinvent the wheel and have no interest in going forward without some structure. Working without a framework around here is a lot like herding cats. Mach-II has a number of capabilties that are ideal for what I am planning to do, I just wanted to get some anecdotal pros / cons. It sounds to me like people are concerned over scalability and the learning curve. Anyways, it also doesn't sound like you have ever used Mach-II. M Tom Kitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I only used fusebox once for a small project, didn't like it as it fragmented my code to much and there was resistance from other people that didn't want to learn it. You don't have to use a framework for very large projects, just plan it very well at first and document it very well. This might account for a large portion of the 9500h you plan to spent on it. But it is well worth it, even on relatively small projects. [Tom Kitta] http://www.tomkitta.com - Does your organization use Mach-II? - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: OT: Mach-II
No, it's there. I've received about a dozen replies off list. It would be nice if people would talk about things publicly. I don't think the fear of other people's comments is really legitimate. But I am grateful to those who replied to me. M Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question was does your organisationuse Mach-II? and so far lots of people have said we don't or we made our own but no one's said yes we do. Does anyone actually use it? Has Mach-II really missed the mark then? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT: Mach-II
What I have heard is mostly positive. There is a lot of disagreement as to it's scalability compared to fusebox, and some people think it is overkill for smaller projects. But there is some consenus about the following: - Mach II apps are maintainable over time - the MVC design pattern is the toughest part for people to grasp - there are benefits to being able to use pre-built components under Mach-II M Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's there. I've received about a dozen replies off list. It would be useful if you can summarize that with the rest of the llist. No need to report names, just share whatever you think it may be useful to others as well. Thanks. Massimo Foti http://www.massimocorner.com - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFUN - I can't go.
Matt - Did anyone accept your kind and gracious offer? If not, I would be happy to take you up! Otherwise, if anyone else is not interested in going please feel free to contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if this sounds too blatant, I am just coming off layoff status and can't really afford to go. *sniff* M -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFUN - I can't go. Hi List, I'm registered to go to CFUN this weekend. It starts tomorrow and is in Rockville, MD. I am not able to go. I know it's late, but does anybody on the list want to go, using my registration? I've asked Teratech about this, it's ok to transfer the registration. First one that sends me his/her name can have it. - Matt Small __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Oracle Resources
Does anyone on this list know of any good resources for someone who is transitioning from MS SQL Server to Oracle? Thanks in advance, M __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: MathML and the Web
I apologize for being so far off topic, but I have a real bugger of a problem. Has anyone here has any experience with MathML being used in Web browsers for people with assistive technology? I am working on a project that displays a large number of scientific formulas which must be accessible to people with screen readers. I found something from IBM which may or may not work, but, other than that... nothing. Anyone had any experience with this? M __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
This is actually problematic for those of us who use Fusebox. Hard-coded paths within a Web site may be useful for some projects, but certainly not for FB sites. I just completed an application where all links are dynamically generated, including paths to images, css and javascript templates. I used Dreamweaver MX for this and, while it wasn't too rough on me, it did not like all of the code I was using. I suppose in a week or so I will detail what I found in a feature request list. The big thing I want to know is: what happened to drag n' drop for images? In CFStudio I could grab an image file and drop it into my code. This is another feature which seems to have fallen out of the product... M -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking? Thanks for your comments. I hope you don't think I'm arguing with you, just trying to understand and explain. =) I have to emphasize that Site Definitions are core to a lot of Dreamweaver's functionality. It's not all about holding your hand! A lot of the behaviors (which you may or may not have used yet, but I'll bet that when you do, you'll be hooked) depend on paths, which requires DW have knowledge of your site structure. Other features need this knowledge as well. Yes, it does do some hand-holding, but that's because it's already there - hand-holding is not it's reason for existance! As far as the multiple environments (local, testing, sandbox, production), simply having multiple definitions is one easy way to handle that. (i.e. SiteDef1: local testing SiteDef2 Local Production or testing production) And you don't have to use checkin-checkout. You can use DWMX in conjunction with SourceSafe, it's in the remote info area of the site definition. basically, instead of sending it to the server, you put it to SourceSafe (database). Oh, and I forgot to mention, one of the other messages said something about syncing those extra dw files. You can cloak anything you don't want synced (right-click the file/dir in the site window, choose cloaking...), and you can choose not to upload design notes (but those are really handy when you're working with a group of folks on the same project, so it's good to include them if you do share the work on the site with others). I've been around MM since the early days of MM. I can tell you it was always developed to be a hand-coder's tool. It's just that since it's the tool of choice for so many professionals, everyone wants to use it. But that was never the goal. I hope you guys really give it a chance. I love it, and I think most of you will too! I don't know what else to say about RDS/FTP in the open/save dialog. It's not there, I know you want it. I can't make it appear magically, but I can be sure to tell folks how much of my flesh it's cost me because it's not in there. OUCH! =) -Vern -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking? Thanks for monitoring this Vernon. And my comments below are not meant to be personal. However, I'm one who rarely uses FTP or RDS vis CFStudio (actually, I have yet to get RDS working right - one day, when it becomes important). That said though, I am a developer who knows how to manage my files and develop my own architectures as needed. The Site implementation of DWMX forces me to create a site, hence creating a Site file, hence imposing file management on me. If the features of UltraDev 4 are still present in that my connection strings and such are stored in another file somewhere, then I also have an architecture decision imposed on me. I don't need that level of hand holding. I want to be able to work with my files, without having extra files created for me. I want the simplicity that DW promises for some of the features, without having to create an architecture I don't want, or is not relavent to my application. And this still has nothing to do with FTP/RDS. As for checking in/out of files - I uss VSS for that, why would I want to implement another tool? As for synchronization, Sites impose only two locations on you - local copy, and remote copy. However in a good development environment, there are likely to be 3 or more locations. Currently we have a development server, then our QA server, then our pre-production server, and finally our production server - never mind our sandbox server (where development which will impact on other users happens so as to minimize inconvienience), and then a completly unrelated testing server for proof of concept work. The site feature doesn't allow for any of this in an easy manner - unless I want to create a site for each of these locations. On the plus side, I think the site feature is a decent option for lesser experienced
RE: mx i18n
I thought it was short for elation... :^) -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: mx i18n all the yacking about mx this mx that seems to have overlooked some significantly cool functionality which the mx team has put great effort into: internationalizing cf. mx is the 1st cf release that is fully i18n. for instance, you might or might not have noticed but your mx processed pages are coming back as utf-8 encoding. your one cf app can now cover the globe. cf is ready to go global i think the internationalization team deserves some recognition for this. they did an excellent job. hubba hubba ;-) and before anyone asks what i18n stands for, its the 18 letters between the i n in internationalization... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Matt, I understand your comments and agree. I was wondering if you had performed any specific benchmarking tests against the betas, and (if so) would be willing to share your results on the NDA site? As you seem to wish to be the fly in the ointment, I cannot imagine you would have much of a problem with this... :^) M -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I wasn't suggesting benchmarking it; that will come in time. I am just pointing out that J2EE can't keep up with CF 5, so CFMX won't be able to either. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) why bother to benchmark test if it's not the final version..is anybody paying attention to the preview potion of preview release ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the debug/beta stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code when I get the opportunity --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single machine. If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind buying a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better choice. CFMX fits in this category. -Matt -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like that it is J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I can tell all you Macromedia guys this, if it isn't faster, I won't be able to upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that once performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be having that, if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but to invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that does things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I am not the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments between ASP and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF is super slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is that much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle anymore in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Jesse, Yes, subsequent requests ARE faster than initial requests. But I have to say they are still painfully slow when compaired to CF 5. Slow enough to be a non-starter for some of our aps. In addition, if you plan on selling web services you already have a big latency problem that you are constantly battling. Anything time saved on the server greatly benefits the user experience - so this is a real issue for the brave new world. NET's CLR is blazingly fast at delivering web service content. CFMX must compete favorably with it to gain headway in the web services arena. -mk P.S. - yeah yeah, I know it's not optimized. But let's be honest, as a rule, JSP is pretty doggy. -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now. On first run, a CFMX page compiles. The pages are no longer interpreted on the fly. This means your initial First Hit is going to take a few seconds, but every request after this is going to much faster. It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, I
RE: (OT) SQL Server Schema
www.swynk.com -Original Message- From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (OT) SQL Server Schema Is there a way I can get a text file or print out of all of the tables, along with column names, datatypes and sizes, in MSSQL Server 2000? H. Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator www.insidevc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFX_PAYMENTNET
As far as I know, it is multi-threaded. We use it without any locking and have no problems using it... Mike -Original Message- From: Tim Stadinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFX_PAYMENTNET Has anyone encountered the CFX_PAYMENTNET tag from Verisign? I would like to know if this tag is capable of multi-thread environment and if anyone has had any issues with it regarding stability or security. Also, the documentation says it is supported on WinNT4.0 and CF4.0 but was told by Verisign that it works on CF 4.x and all versions of Windows. Not very familiar with the C++ libraries that are supported between the 2 versions of CF/Window combinations, so any feedback would help here. Thanks Timothy Stadinski Senior Software Engineer Afternic.com __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: 360 Review
The strategy I have used in the past is the following: 1) Create two tables, one which contains a user_id corresponding to each person in your department and a second for storing survey answers 2) Send a link to the survey to each user containing the user_id 3) Delete each user_id as the user completes the survey; require the user to have a valid id when entering the survey. Mike -Original Message- From: Heild, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: 360 Review The boss of our MIS dept wants everyone to grade him on a number of questions. He wants it to be strictly anonymous, however he wants it so each person in our dept can only vote one time. What is the best method to do __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
MSSQL Stored Proc and Named Notation
Hi, I am using MS SQL Server 7.0 and CF 5.0 and I am having trouble with a call to a stored procedure. The procedure is detailed below, and when I try to call it using the following code, it blows up: cfstoredproc datasource=#application.transact_database# procedure=qry_test debug cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER dbvarname=@user_id value=form.user_id NULL=No cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR dbvarname=@username value=some.username NULL=No cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR dbvarname=@password value=some.password NULL=No cfprocresult name=qry_test resultset=1 /cfstoredproc When I move the @user_id procparam to the end of the parameters list, everything works fine. My question is, I thought that by specifying the name of the parameter you are passing in via the dbvarname property, you were not limited to positional notation. Why does the order of my variables affect my call to the stored procedure? Thanks, Mike ALTER PROC qry_test @username varchar(30) = '', @password varchar(30) = '', @user_id int = NULL AS IF @user_id IS NOT NULL BEGIN SELECT user_id, username, password, fname, lname, active_ind, prefix, mi FROM ref_users WHERE user_id = @user_id END ELSE BEGIN SELECT 'haggerty' fname, 'haggerty' lname, @username passed_username SELECT user_id, fname, lname, getdate() time FROM ref_users WHERE active_ind = 1 AND username = @username AND password = @password AND username '' AND password '' END -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Michael...what's going on? I'm getting a bunch of ScanMail messages back from the list saying my messages contain sensitive content and have been blocked!! What did I say? I'm pretty sure I didn't disclose any national secrets, use bad language, or say bad things about the list ;-) Any ideas? TIA Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: MSSQL Stored Proc and Named Notation
Hi Dave, Thanks for the response. I think the question I want to have answered is why? It is clear that MS SQL is not limited to positional notation. If I call the same procedure through an EXEC call, like so: EXEC qry_test @user_id = 5000, @username = 'haggerty', @password = 'haggerty123' I can pass the variables in any order I want. Why does it matter for Cold Fusion to pass them in order? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MSSQL Stored Proc and Named Notation List your parameters in the order you send them. @user_id int = NULL @username varchar(30) = '' @password varchar(30) = '' Dave -Original Message- From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: MSSQL Stored Proc and Named Notation Hi, I am using MS SQL Server 7.0 and CF 5.0 and I am having trouble with a call to a stored procedure. The procedure is detailed below, and when I try to call it using the following code, it blows up: cfstoredproc datasource=#application.transact_database# procedure=qry_test debug cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER dbvarname=@user_id value=form.user_id NULL=No cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR dbvarname=@username value=some.username NULL=No cfprocparam type=In cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR dbvarname=@password value=some.password NULL=No cfprocresult name=qry_test resultset=1 /cfstoredproc When I move the @user_id procparam to the end of the parameters list, everything works fine. My question is, I thought that by specifying the name of the parameter you are passing in via the dbvarname property, you were not limited to positional notation. Why does the order of my variables affect my call to the stored procedure? Thanks, Mike ALTER PROC qry_test @username varchar(30) = '', @password varchar(30) = '', @user_id int = NULL AS IF @user_id IS NOT NULL BEGIN SELECT user_id, username, password, fname, lname, active_ind, prefix, mi FROM ref_users WHERE user_id = @user_id END ELSE BEGIN SELECT 'haggerty' fname, 'haggerty' lname, @username passed_username SELECT user_id, fname, lname, getdate() time FROM ref_users WHERE active_ind = 1 AND username = @username AND password = @password AND username '' AND password '' END -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Michael...what's going on? I'm getting a bunch of ScanMail messages back from the list saying my messages contain sensitive content and have been blocked!! What did I say? I'm pretty sure I didn't disclose any national secrets, use bad language, or say bad things about the list ;-) Any ideas? TIA Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: death of coldfusion
Hear, Hear. Bully on opinions! I just took a job with an unnamed major employer with offices throughout the US, Canada, and Europe. From what I can tell, everyone uses Cold Fusion. I was hired to put together Flash and JSP pages, but I was given three copies of CF5 Enterprise edition and told to buils a server farm and go to town. Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 1:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: death of coldfusion You can never have enough opinions. - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: Re: death of coldfusion That thread has 200 posts. Aren't those enough opinions for you? Jim - Original Message - From: Fregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: death of coldfusion I'm sure this has been discussed before on here but its appearance on allaire forums has me disturbed. Is Coldfusion really dying? Has M$ and Java taken CF down to the point it can't compete? What is the consensus with your hardcore CF'ers? http://forums.allaire.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=3threadi= 230228highlight_key=ykeyword1=death __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: I need a good MS-SQL list
I do not know if this helps, but, when I am looking for SQL insights, I go to http://www.sqlteam.com/ Good SQL Server Resource link with many forums, there is usually a thread about the problem I am trying to resolve. Good luck, Mike -Original Message- From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: I need a good MS-SQL list Can someone recommend a good SQL (MS-SQL preferred) list? I'm trying to get a date query working, and it's not quite living up to it's part of the bargain. The following is what I'm using, if anyone here has a quick resolution, please email me off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) thanks- !--- i get all the emails older than 30 days that you have already read --- cfquery name=getOldEmail datasource=#request.datasource# SELECT pop_store_id FROM pop_store WHERE date_created #CreateODBCDateTime(CreateTimeSpan(-30, 0, 0, 0) + Now())# AND unread = 0 /cfquery (just trying to get all the emails that are older than 30 days, and I thought that all I needed to do was throw a Less Than operator into the mix...) Tyler ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Querying FoxPro Date
Just a stab in the dark, is that the query you are actually running? The double quotes before the date are actually a pair of single quotes. I have no experience with FoxPro, but the query you posted will not run under SQL Server. Change the single quotes to read like this and you should be alright: WHERE odr_date '12/10/01' Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Querying FoxPro Date How can you select records for a FoxPro date by using date? The query: cfquery name=getpo datasource=PO select ponumber, supplier,odr_date from purchase where odr_date ''12/10/01 /cfquery It returns with the error: ODBC Error Code = 22005 (Error in assignment) [Microsoft][ODBC Visual FoxPro Driver]Operator/operand type mismatch. In SQL, it works fine. But the DB will be in FoxPro When I select all and out the date, the date format is in -mm-dd. I tried using that format, but no luch either. Any clues? Thanks Jacob ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Size limit of a list
The amount of memory available on the server. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Size limit of a list Would anyone know what the size limit for a ColdFusion list is? Thanks, Rey... ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Size limit of a list
Good point. I have put together some big lists myself, but, now that I think about it, I haven't used a list for anything in years. Rey, what is it you are trying to do that is giving you problems? Mike -Original Message- From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Size limit of a list The amount of memory available on the server. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Size limit of a list Would anyone know what the size limit for a ColdFusion list is? Thanks, Rey... ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: What might be causing this cfserver error message?
Can you post some code? That message does not give me anything to go on... Mike -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: What might be causing this cfserver error message? Does anyone what usually causes this error message? It seems to be happening several times a week lately. Error Diagnostic Information unknown exception condition unknown error while executing a tag. Date/Time: 12/13/01 10:11:10 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0) Remote Address: HTTP Referrer: Thanks, Dave ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Send response to browser, but continue working on request?
Tony; The scheme I used in the past to do something similar was the following. Please keep in mind this is pre-version 5 and may no longer be the best practice. 1) Update a database with the user's id and the details on the page to generate (any variables passed, etc.). Display a page explaining the user will receive an email with download instructions. 2) CFSCHEDULE the page to generate the report ON ANOTHER BOX so you won't bog down a production server with long running pages. Set the timeout on this template to serve your needs. Make sure you use CFERROR or CFCATCH to monitor the template's progress. It is a good idea to set yourself up to be notified in case of errors. 3) Use CFFILE to create the file and store the file name and path in a database for later removal. 4) Update the database to indicate the page has generated or Delete the record to remove it from the queue. 5) CFMAIL the client download instructions on successful creation of the file. Tell the user how long they will have to download the file. You may wish to have the client download the page via CFCONTENT and have some error handling set up at this stage to avoid any snafus. 6) CFSCHEDULE another page to delete old files using the information stored in step 3. No need to keep reports that have already been created. Good luck, Mike -Original Message- From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Send response to browser, but continue working on request? I have a function that allows a user to create a file of available inventory. The problem is that it takes a long time and eventually the browser will timeout, but they haven't gotten their file yet... What I want to do is let the user make the request and then respond with Thank you for your request. Your file will be created and emailed to you shortly. How can I spawn off the part that will actually create the file and still respond with a finished request to the browser? Tony Schreiber, Senior Partner Man and Machine, Limited mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technocraft.com http://www.simplemessageboard.com ___Free Forum Software for Cold Fusion http://www.is300.net ___The Enthusiast's Home of the Lexus IS300 http://www.digitacamera.com __DigitA Camera Scripts and Tips http://www.linklabexchange.com _Miata Link ECU Data Exchange ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Does anyone see a problem with this query?
What is the error you are getting? -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Does anyone see a problem with this query? Absolutely nothing else. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:12 AM Subject: RE: Does anyone see a problem with this query? I don't know if I'm alone in this, but at first, second, and third glance your query syntax seems fine. Is there anything else to this query? -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 00:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Does anyone see a problem with this query? I keep getting this error when I run the query. This is a SQL 2K database ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Line 2: Incorrect syntax near '.'. SELECT topc.id, topc.topics, subt.id, subt.topic_id, subt.s_topics FROM topics AS topc INNER JOIN sub_topics AS subt ON topc.id = subt.id WHERE topc.id = subt.id Thanks Doug ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Does anyone see a problem with this query?
I was hoping that was not really the error... I don't see how this could be causing the error, but it seems like you are joining on the wrong id field. Did you really mean to join on the id fields of each table, or were you meaning to join on topics.id to to sub_topics.topic_id? I dunno... this is a wierd one. Maybe the problem has to do with the permissions on CF? Mike -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Does anyone see a problem with this query? Here is the original post ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Line 2: Incorrect syntax near '.'. SELECT topc.id, topc.topics, subt.id, subt.topic_id, subt.s_topics FROM topics AS topc INNER JOIN sub_topics AS subt ON topc.id = subt.id WHERE topc.id = subt.id - Original Message - From: Michael Haggerty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Does anyone see a problem with this query? What is the error you are getting? -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Does anyone see a problem with this query? Absolutely nothing else. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:12 AM Subject: RE: Does anyone see a problem with this query? I don't know if I'm alone in this, but at first, second, and third glance your query syntax seems fine. Is there anything else to this query? -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 00:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Does anyone see a problem with this query? I keep getting this error when I run the query. This is a SQL 2K database ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Line 2: Incorrect syntax near '.'. SELECT topc.id, topc.topics, subt.id, subt.topic_id, subt.s_topics FROM topics AS topc INNER JOIN sub_topics AS subt ON topc.id = subt.id WHERE topc.id = subt.id Thanks Doug ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE
script language=javascript
i = 0;
while (i 1) {
alert('Hello!');
}
/script
You can replace the alert box with any other code you would like.
Mike
-Original Message-
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE
Why do you need this??
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I mean, put the browser in such a state that its window does not
update
and
it can only be made to go away by using Task Manager to kill the
process.
It's ok if the crash doesn't kill the OS.
-Original Message-
From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE
I need a snippet of javascript/html/dhtml/css/whatever that
will cause
Netscape or IE to crash reliably so I can test something. I
have certainly
managed to crash them in the past but can't find the code that
did it. Any
ideas?
http://www.netscape.com/ usually does it for me. ;)
Seriously, crash how? Throw a JS error? Lock up the
application? Lock up
the computer? Lock up the house, and cause your toilets to
overflow and
your wife's hairdryer to catch fire? Be specific, man. :)
-Ron
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(¯`·.¸_¸.
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RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload?
I am trying to create an ecommerce site using a flat file database solution, and I want to know if anyone has had much experience with using Excel or CSV files? I keep hearing about the advantages over Access (no memory leaks, quicker access times, highly portable) and that they can greatly reduce the intiial costs of startup and ownership. My target deployment platform is PWS hooked to an @Home cable modem. What I want to know is: Does quering an Excel file create a persistent ODBC lock on the file? How about raw text? Will I be able to overwrite the file every five minutes if I need to, or will I have to launch a fake query? Mike :^) -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Actually, the real solution is to not use shared file base databases on live Web sites. I know Access is cheap and easy, I know all the compelling reasons to use it, but: - administration and updates is a pain - the data file is highly susceptible to corruption - the data file is likely to be stolen too Access (and any other files based DBMS') were never designed for Web use, and really should not be used there. The tough part is explaining that to your client. If you need help convincing him, there is a column I wrote on this (title is Access Denied) at www.forta.com/cf/resources. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? This is a bit of a bubblegum solution, but you can have your client run a lock killing query just prior to upload. Just setup a quesry that they can navigate to in their browser (I call it qLockKiller.cfm). The SQL should be something like SELECT something FROM nothing. That will cause a db error and unlock Access (remove the .ldb file). Sometimes the query needs to be run afew times. I'd suggest doing this at non-peak times as somebody could hit the db again in the time it takes to fire up the FTP and send up the db. All that said...clients should not mess with uploading databases over top live ones...transaction will inevitably happen between the download and upload and thus data will be lost. Best solution is to set CF admin to only allow SELECT statements durring this process so no data can be altered. Of course this requires access to CF admin which is not always easy if hosted in a shared environment. HTH Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Disconnecting Data Sources for Upload? Customer has Access database that he uploads to CF Server via FTP. Access database is a datasource for his site. When site is being viewed, he cannot upload a newer copy of the database because the file is locked. Any creative solutions besides disconnect the datasource? John McKown, President Delaware.Net, Inc. 28 Old Rudnick Lane Dover, DE 19901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 cell: 302-363-0071 icq: 1812513 ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: About the news
The subject line says it all. This article is about the news. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 4:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: About the news I really dislike this kind of post. In order to find out what Michael's saying, we have to open the browser, go to that link, which says nothing at all, then we have to click on somewhere else to go to see the whole story. And where I am, at this time of day, it means at least 5 minutes to see what he's saying- 5 minutes to find out if I'm even interested. Why can't you just write it out, Michael? (for the record, I didn't bother waiting to see what the link was about. His post was totally wasted in my case. Cheers, Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP WebWorks -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: About the news In context with some other email discussions... http://www.msnbc.com/news/667581.asp ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hi
Given the new .Net initiatives, this really makes you think about security in a distributed environment. cfparanoid level=possibly justified Imagine the day when controls are installed on rogue servers in other countries that you cannot touch or that you do not know are hostile in the first place. /cfparanoid Mike -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hi Keep in mind that most of the exploits aren't due to explicit features, they are usually COM-based. As such, it's not the application that's at fault, it the extensibility. - Original Message - From: Lee Surma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Hi If P-mail were as popular as Outlook, it would be targetted and exploited. You don't hear about Pegasus Mail viruses because it doesn't have the userbase that Outlook does. If you were developing a ColdFusion Application that would be used by thousands worldwide, and you had pockets as deep as Microsoft, how likely would it be that the application could be hacked in dozens of different ways? How tough would it be to spend a couple of million to have a team of hackers go at it, BEFORE you release it? Better yet, release a hacker beta, and hand out wads of cash to whoever discovers holes. They haven't made it a priority. Expedient release is the priority. -- Lee Surma [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and Cybercash
Just a note about VeriSign - they did buy CyberCash out and no longer support the system for new customers. The good news is, VeriSign is a step up from CyberCash. They always provide me with excellent service and the longest a transaction has ever taken is 2 seconds. Besides offering a CFX tag to interface with their systems, VeriSign offers a free trial period where you can experiment with the tags. It says it only goes for 30 days, but I have been able to use test accounts for over six months in the past. Mike -Original Message- From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 9:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and Cybercash Which CyberCash are you looking for? WebAuthorize or the other one? Joshua Miller Web Development::Programming Eagle Technologies Group, Inc. www.eagletgi.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (304) 622-4499 x320 (VMail) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or personal. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone call at the number listed above. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Cybercash Does anyone know where to find the cybercash tag.. I tried the link from the dev exchange and it takes me to verisign, but the link is dead.. Any ideas? Michael T. Tangorre Resident Assistant - Brick Web Applications Developer A.U. Webteam Slave :-) AIM: CrazyFlash4 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFCONTENT CFHEADER- filename problem?
I have been wrestling with the same issue for a while. There are two ways to change the name of the file I have found that are reliable: 1) The CFHEADER / CFCONTENT combo you may have already tried: CFHEADER NAME=Content-Disposition VALUE=attachment;filename=report.csv CFCONTENT TYPE=unknown reset=Yescfoutput#column_headers#/cfoutput cfoutput query=#queryname##col# /cfoutput On Netscape, this works without issue. On IE, when a user sees the 'What would you like to do with this file?' dialog, it does read the name of the CF file. However, when you go to save the file, the file name changes to the value of the CFHEADER tag. 2) URL Hacking: Something such as: a href=index.cfm/report.csv?fuseaction=get_reportClick Here for File/a This method is very reliable for both browsers when the server decides it should work. I have a development and test server, and the URL hack works perfectly in dev but never in test. The installations are nearly identical and I am completely lost for a solution. Hope this helps, Mike -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFCONTENT CFHEADER- filename problem? I'm using CFCONTENT CFHEADER to allow downloads but it always presents the name of the cold fusion page instead of the file to be downloaded and saved? Its being using on our intranet with only IE browsers. I've seem several different combinations of CFCONTENT CFHEADER but none seem to replace the name correctly. I've used the examples from Figleaf as a guide but still no success. Thanks, Dave Bosky ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hi - DROP IT! NO MORE REPLIES PLEASE!
I have an idea - why doesn't everyone turn their attention to the thread labelled RE: CFCONTENT CFHEADER- filename problem? This topic may be the only one more rehashed than the virus problem... at the same time, there is still some debate over whether or not there is a reliable way to programmatically return a CF template file name other than the one called. Mike -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hi - DROP IT! NO MORE REPLIES PLEASE! Yes I must say I was hoping for a more fruitfull discussion when I woke up this AM but oh well.. Doug - Original Message - From: Rayna Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Hi - DROP IT! NO MORE REPLIES PLEASE! it's a virus! Rayna Evans AAMC 2501 M Street, 2nd Fl Washington, DC 20037 202-862-6243 (direct) Extension 4243 (internal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/05/01 11:52AM OK - I'm sorry for saying somebody slap this guy! I should have realised it would have kicked off a massive my email client is better than yours and who's the moron discussion. I've seen this discussion more than enough of the past 6 months, so can just leave it alone and get back to the business of CF development. Thank you very very much in advance Regards Stephen ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and cached pages
script language=javascript !-- window.close(); //-- /script This should work... put it on the page the user goes to after logging out. :^) Or, try, this, and replace session.varname with the one used in your structure. cfparam name=session.varname default= cfif len(session.varname) eq 0 cflocation template=pag_no_login.cfm /cfif Mike -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and cached pages I have a problem here, I cannot resolve it. My issue is as follows: I have someone login, if successful, I set a session variable. When they log out, I delete that variable from the session structure and send them back to the login page... However, if they hit back on the broweser, they can get into the page they logged out from, which I don't want to happen. I tried using no cache in the meta tag, using cflocation when I send them to the login page after loggin out.. I check for the variabel before the page loads... Nothing works... Any ideas? Michael T. Tangorre Resident Assistant - Brick Web Applications Developer A.U. Webteam Slave :-) AIM: CrazyFlash4 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: autorun program at logon?
Even easier than that... put the a shortcut to the login page in the startup folder of every user. Mike -Original Message- From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: autorun program at logon? You should be able to do what you need to do in ColdFusion and give the url to the systems guys.. They should be able put a batch script in the users' login that will open IE to that URL. That would save the large amount of time that would be spent changing everyone's default homepage.. Quoting Terri Stocke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey all, This is somewhat off-topic, but I can't find any good lists to post this question to and this is the only list I currently belong to. So, since this is a very active list with lots of helpful, intelligent folks (does it sound like I'm buttering you up? ;)... I've just been asked to create some sort of script/program/webpage/whatever that will automatically pop up on the user's screen when they log in to our network (NT, migrating to W2K soon). It is very simple--just a countdown to the end of this fiscal year. They don't care if it is a real-time countdown or if it is just a display of the number of days to the end of the FY, but they want to make sure that EVERY employee sees it EVERY day, first thing. Well, since I am a ColdFusion person (not so great in other programming venues, though I dabble in Javascript and Java), my first thought was to get the networking team to modify the login script to auto-launch IE (our standard web browser) and have the default page set to a ColdFusion page that I create with the countdown info. The upside of doing it this way is that I can have it done within about 20 minutes. Also, they may want to add graphics and other marketing type stuff later. The other requirement is that this program/feature be implementable in all of our locations worldwide. That's why I'm thinking of the CF solution (run on our servers here) as opposed to Java or Javascript, which may be disabled on a user's machine. Then each location would have to modify their login script to point to that CF page. I don't think this is a very cool solution--I think it would be cooler to actually create some sort of screensaver or popup utility that updates automatically with the countdown number and runs right on the desktop. But I wouldn't even know where to begin to implement this or what snafus I may run into. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Any thoughts? Opinions? I'm all ears!!! Thanks! Terri ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: autorun program at logon?
But that way you get to know all the users -Original Message- From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT: autorun program at logon? I like to think lazy. I would rather write the script once, put it the login script then eat a candy bar rather then walk around to all the workstations changing settings all the time. Quoting Michael Haggerty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Even easier than that... put the a shortcut to the login page in the startup folder of every user. Mike -Original Message- From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: autorun program at logon? You should be able to do what you need to do in ColdFusion and give the url to the systems guys.. They should be able put a batch script in the users' login that will open IE to that URL. That would save the large amount of time that would be spent changing everyone's default homepage.. Quoting Terri Stocke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey all, This is somewhat off-topic, but I can't find any good lists to post this question to and this is the only list I currently belong to. So, since this is a very active list with lots of helpful, intelligent folks (does it sound like I'm buttering you up? ;)... I've just been asked to create some sort of script/program/webpage/whatever that will automatically pop up on the user's screen when they log in to our network (NT, migrating to W2K soon). It is very simple--just a countdown to the end of this fiscal year. They don't care if it is a real-time countdown or if it is just a display of the number of days to the end of the FY, but they want to make sure that EVERY employee sees it EVERY day, first thing. Well, since I am a ColdFusion person (not so great in other programming venues, though I dabble in Javascript and Java), my first thought was to get the networking team to modify the login script to auto-launch IE (our standard web browser) and have the default page set to a ColdFusion page that I create with the countdown info. The upside of doing it this way is that I can have it done within about 20 minutes. Also, they may want to add graphics and other marketing type stuff later. The other requirement is that this program/feature be implementable in all of our locations worldwide. That's why I'm thinking of the CF solution (run on our servers here) as opposed to Java or Javascript, which may be disabled on a user's machine. Then each location would have to modify their login script to point to that CF page. I don't think this is a very cool solution--I think it would be cooler to actually create some sort of screensaver or popup utility that updates automatically with the countdown number and runs right on the desktop. But I wouldn't even know where to begin to implement this or what snafus I may run into. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Any thoughts? Opinions? I'm all ears!!! Thanks! Terri ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: 2D Query Grouping
Use SQL to do the grouping, it is a lot easier. Here is an example that will work on SQL Server: SELECT count(order_id), date_shipped, status FROM ORDERS GROUP BY date_shipped, status ORDER BY date_shipped, status Manipulate the SQL to your particular situation, and good luck. Mike -Original Message- From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: 2D Query Grouping I have several instances where I need to group by more than one condition. For example, I create a sales report where I show BY DAY the total of orders and their status (shipped, cancelled, etc). I'm already grouping by day to get the daily totals, how can I also group by status? As it is, I do a separate day-grouped query for each status and output each one into a structure that I then display (and graph)... Another example is inventory. I have products of varying conditions in different types of locations. I want to show a table of condition/location like this: Online Overstock New 56 355 Used34 234 Crap34 39 I can do one query and group by condition (I have to sum the quantity from multiple inventory locations to get that one number, that's where my group function goes). Then I have to do another query to group by type of location. But that gives me separate totals like this: Online 124 Overstock 628 and New 411 Used268 Crap73 Any ideas? Tony Schreiber, Senior Partner Man and Machine, Limited mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technocraft.com http://www.simplemessageboard.com ___Free Forum Software for Cold Fusion http://www.is300.net ___The Enthusiast's Home of the Lexus IS300 http://www.digitacamera.com __DigitA Camera Scripts and Tips http://www.linklabexchange.com _Miata Link ECU Data Exchange ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
