MM Exchange lack of proper navigation or ease of use

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
OK, so MM is THE inventor of Flash right? and MM has a ton of highly 
skilled developers on staff too right?



So how come the CF Exchange Frustrates me no end?


Sorry for the frustration comin out here but I never got an answer back 
from my direct post on the MM site and I know MM people read this list! 
More importantly, the Allaire tag gallery was a JOY to use, and MM I feel 
has an obligation to respect it's CF roots even in THIS way...

I HATE having to re-search on something every time I try to go BACK after 
viewing a tag.

I HATE having to stay in one window when I want to preview a tag I think 
MAY be what I want but only has like five words in the description that are 
cut off to force it into the little tiny area set for the description.

Why can't the grid be better designed for user friendliness, like having a 
whole two sentence description go from left to right across the screen so I 
can make a better decision before clicking?

Why can't I click on a tag I want to view and have it open in a new window, 
or a floating window?

For all that I LOVE about CF, and Flash, and MM, the exchanges TEAR ME UP.

COME ON MM - Get into the GUI mode here PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

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Re: Web based CF Mail interface

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
What's the no relaying rule?
What exactly are you trying to accomplish, besides not creating an open relay?
Whether or not an SMTP relay is open is completely in the hands of the email
server configuration.  Permitting relaying only from localhost and/or machines
on the local network would be one way of doing it.


GOAL - Disallow mail relaying from outside the network.  Want to be sure 
all spam lists recognize my mailing system as a non-relay system.  My mail 
server allows the option No relaying however that means that all present 
clients using their own mail software (outlook, Eudora, Netscape) from 
their own machines across the US can not send email.  So I did a bunch of 
research and web based mail on a local network computer made sense from my 
understanding.  If I use the right level of logon security, then I would 
think that's what I need.


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Re: Web based CF Mail interface

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Yeah...  at $1500 plus service agreement, it's beyond my pocket at this 
point.  So I'm staying with my current mail server and just putting a CF 
front end on it for $50 plus the time it takes me to integrate the front 
end mail client.



At 01:04 AM 8/6/03, you wrote:
Ever looked at IMail server from IPSwitch?

http://www.ipswitch.com

-Novak

- Original Message -
From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Web based CF Mail interface


  At 10:34 PM 8/5/03, you wrote:
  Are you trying to build your own home grown mail server?   I ask, because
most
  email server packages have built-in settings to enable SMTP AUTH which
  prevents relaying due to the requirement of a user name and password to
send
  mail.  They also support SMTP, POP3, as well as web based interfaces.
 
  Not reinventing.  Just going for a CF front end web based mail client (for
  sending and receiving mail.  I'll require all clients to use it.  Combined
  with setting my mail server to disallow all relaying, I can prevent
  spammers from using my mail server as a  golden gateway.  I've gotten 95%
  of it stopped already, however once so far this year someone out there
  figured out a way around what I'd done.  So rather than trying to keep
  playing lockdown games, I'll go this route.
 
  I'm going with Webmail Pro, a CF solution by the team at
  www.mollerus.net  for the front end client interface.
 
 
 

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Re: Web based CF Mail interface

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 10:34 PM 8/5/03, you wrote:
Are you trying to build your own home grown mail server?   I ask, because most
email server packages have built-in settings to enable SMTP AUTH which
prevents relaying due to the requirement of a user name and password to send
mail.  They also support SMTP, POP3, as well as web based interfaces.

Not reinventing.  Just going for a CF front end web based mail client (for 
sending and receiving mail.  I'll require all clients to use it.  Combined 
with setting my mail server to disallow all relaying, I can prevent 
spammers from using my mail server as a  golden gateway.  I've gotten 95% 
of it stopped already, however once so far this year someone out there 
figured out a way around what I'd done.  So rather than trying to keep 
playing lockdown games, I'll go this route.

I'm going with Webmail Pro, a CF solution by the team at 
www.mollerus.net  for the front end client interface.


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RE: MM Exchange lack of proper navigation or ease of use

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 08:16 AM 8/6/03, you wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. And Michael even made a discussion group to
reach MM people called Macromedia-Talk. It's at:

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=threadsforumid=2
8

Thanks Kevin I'll check it out.  I'm totally willing, at no charge, to come 
up with a flow, navigation layout and punch list for a spec that would make 
the exchange COMPLETELY effortless to use and truly it wouldn't require 
overwhelming effort to create...


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Web based CF Mail interface

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
If I go with a web based CF driven interface that I require all clients to 
use, because that's on the server farm with localhost as the mail 
server... that would then allow me to enforce the No Relaying rule correct?

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IIS Lookup and CF Datasource reports?

2003-08-11 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Is there a CF way to generate a list of all the domains I have on my server
AS WELL AS their associated domain directory?

The built in IIS List export doesn't show which directory on the server...  


ALSO -

How about a similar report for Datasources in CF 5 Admin - Datasource name,
ODBC Datasource it's associated with?

THanks in advance

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Re: Web based CF Mail interface

2003-08-06 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
A webmail interface is a poor alternative for most people accustomed to 
using a
standard email client.  If you really wanted to go that route, I'd suggest
investigating a good open source webmail client, such as SquirrelMail, written
in PHP.  This would be more than just a form for sending messages; it would be
a complete system for sending, reading, replying to and managing email.


Thanks Jim.  Webmail Pro (the web interface I'm going with here) is a 
feature rich CF interface, allowing attachments, embedded HTML , folders, 
address book, pretty much the works - it's the only reason I'm willing to 
go this route, however I am considering allowing SMTP Auth for those 
clients who wish to remain with their own mail software as an option.

Part of my challenge was the fact that many of my clients ISPs do not allow 
them to send email when the FROM address is the client's domain (hosted on 
my server) for the same reason - it's relaying.   They prefer to have the 
 From be [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example.  Some 
allow it and some don't.


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OT? Tracking email via embedded images

2003-08-02 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I have a client who wants to send out emails with images embedded because
he heard you can track info about the image being opened in the email
through some sort of server process.

I know a site's log reports on which images were viewed in a web browser
during a visitor session, however how do you do  this for email, what do
you need to look for, and is there a need to embed a unique code in the
email other than an image?

Any help in this direction would be greatly appreciated!  

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Random Form Validation Word with graphics

2003-08-02 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
First I want to thank everyone on the list for helping me so much 
lately.  I'm up to my neck in new territory and CF Talk is invaluable to 
me, which in reality means everyone on the list is invaluable to me!

OK - So I have a registration form that requires the need to generate a 
random 4 or 6 character word that the user must type into the 
ValidationWord field... If what they type in matches what was generated, 
they continue on the registration process.

I've got some Javascript to generate a word, however it's just plain html 
text.

I've seen most high end sites use thumbnail gifs for each character and 
this is what I need.

Any guidance?   Also, can this be easily hacked by a professional 
phony-registration system so unwanteds get the ability to use the site's 
forums for WebCam girls and such?

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Re[2]: OT? Tracking email via embedded images

2003-08-02 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 10:38 AM 8/2/03, you wrote:
Rafael, I do s.th. like
this behind the real image (img ...
img
src=http://www.foo.com/tracking.cfm?issue=20030721pictureID=2linkID=0campaignID=1;
 
border=0 height=1 width=1 alt=dummy

and in tracking.cfm I have:

CFQUERY name=foo datasource=tracking dbtype=odbc
Insert Into trackingData (email, issue, UA, clickdate, clicktime, 
pictureID, linkID, campaignID)
Values ('#email#', '#issue#', '#cgi.http_user_agent#', 
#CreateODBCDate(Now())#, #CreateODBCTime(Now())#,
#pictureID#, #linkID#, #campaignID#)
/CFQUERY



This was perfect!  Thank you for this!








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CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Anyone ever do this or know of a custom tag?

I've got a form that needs to be checked against a list of bad words, and 
the refresh of the page needs to have the text in the textarea with the 
matched bad words highlighted in bold or red font...

What's it take to do this?

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RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Unfortuneatly, a standard HTML textarea doesn't render HTML codes, so
you really can't highlite words - the textarea would show the b or
style or font tags, etc..

You'll need to use an HTML editor object - I use SoEditor Lite
(http://www.siteobjects.com/pages/order.cfm). It's free and very
straightforward to use.


Well, this is a lot more intensive than I'd hoped, however it sure beats 
JTextpane and the whole Java road!


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Re: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 11:40 AM 8/1/03, you wrote:

http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/13562/fid/130

This allows manipulation of a selection.  I need to be able to parse 
through the submitted textarea content and feed it back into the form with 
numerous words html wrapped with Bold or Red...

multiple words in a textarea, multiple textareas on a page.  Looks like a 
WYSIWYG editor.

I know it can be done in Flash however I need this to be non-Flash.

ah  always pushing the envelope of my brain power. 

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RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
If you are in an Intranet setting and are using IE, you can use an
editable DIV to hold the formatted text, and then when you go to submit,


Hey this is really good... its not an Intranet, but I think for the first 
time in my life I want to say screw my own rules... and require IE

Now I need to brush up on DIV control.

Thanks for this lead!



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RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 11:47 AM 8/1/03, you wrote:
editable DIV to hold the formatted text, and then when you go to submit,
copy the innerHTML or innerText value from the div to a hidden field...

Just a pointer please - how to copy the innertext to a hidden field? 

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RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
THanks so much for the help Jeff!  I'll give this a go later today!


SCRIPT type=text/javascript
function htmltotext(){
document.myform.plaintext.value = mycontent.innerHTML;
}

function text2HTML(){
mycontent.innerHTML = document.myform.plaintext.value;
}
/SCRIPT

div id=mycontent style=overflow: scroll CONTENTEDITABLE/div
input type=button value=copy to text box
onclick=htmltotext();/button
form name=myform
textarea id=plaintext name=plaintext cols=80 rows=6/textarea
input type=button name=txt2html value=copy to HTML box
onclick=text2HTML();
/form

HTH,

Jeff Garza
Manager, Phoenix CFUG
Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?


At 11:47 AM 8/1/03, you wrote:
 editable DIV to hold the formatted text, and then when you go to
submit,
 copy the innerHTML or innerText value from the div to a hidden field...

Just a pointer please - how to copy the innertext to a hidden field?



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RE: multipart form - passing fields

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Why not post the contents to the DB after each page?  I do this and it 
allows me to retain the input for those sites where the visitor has the 
rights to come back again later.  Post once per page, and no worries.  I 
track which page was completed in the DB and check for a AllCompleted flag.

If they don't come back after x days, it gets wiped.

Are there disadvantages to this?  (always looking for more efficient methods)

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RE: CF tag for highlighting text in a textfield?

2003-08-01 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
div id=mycontent style=overflow: scroll CONTENTEDITABLE/div
input type=button value=copy to text box
onclick=htmltotext();/button
form name=myform
textarea id=plaintext name=plaintext cols=80 rows=6/textarea
input type=button name=txt2html value=copy to HTML box
onclick=text2HTML();
/form


SIGH got myself all worked up to have the client choose to go with the 
Parse the contents from the textfield and reload with *** replacing 
all the bad words.


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Looking for Adam Roe

2003-07-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Does anyone on the list know Adam Roe?  He's an ASP programmer in Brooklyn 
and I need to get hold of him, except I can't recall which mailing list I 
first made contact with him on... When I lost my hard drive's FAT table I 
discovered that my backup data of my email contacts and my contact database 
were older versions and I need to get hold of him.

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Re: OT: Netscape 7.1

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Yeah NS 7.1 is pretty good, however I just discovered a quirk last night 
regarding  CSS.

I've got a major CSS file that sets padding, and a host of other elements 
in tables.  When I generated the page using the !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC 
-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Final//EN My main navigation table in NS 7.1 had a 
gap in it, not in IE though.

I decided to do a what the heck and used
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN
and there was no gap!

Not understanding this if I want to ensure standards compliance, I'll need 
to figure out which CSS, XHTML or DOM element NS 7.1 doesn't support, or if 
I need to reference a local URI or something. (I'm Just now learning the 
finer points of advanced CSS and DOM control).

So for me, it's cross-browser testing as usual!

The real question though is, now that AOL signed another multi-year 
agreement to use the IE engine in AOL ACK cough - sputter and laid off 
more NS staff, how long will it be before NS goes completely open source?

Ultimately I'm an NS FANatic since NS 0.9 beta and an anti-corporate kind 
of a guy, however I have no desire (YET) to explore Linux, Opera, or any of 
the other dozen anti-Bill solutions for Intel based PCs.


Rafael



At 11:05 PM 7/27/03, you wrote:
Lil bit OT but it may be worthy. ;)

I had to do some regression testing on an app today and was forced to
install Netscape 7.1, ACK!...and I must admit I was pleasantly
surprised. I believe it's *finally* caught up to (and surpassed) IE.
Built-in pop-up blocking for one...and every IE feature I used to
complain that it didn't have. I even found my google bar! ;)

http://googlebar.mozdev.org/

Cheers,

Stace


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Re: OT: Hurricane in Houston?

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
It's BOGUS.  The hurricane didn't hit Texas til TUESDAY the 15th.

If a DEADLINE was for the 13th, that means they had to have completed what 
they were to do TWO DAYS before the hurricane hit.

FROM NASA:
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/2003/0715claudette.html
Category 1 Hurricane Claudette, the first Atlantic hurricane of 2003, made 
landfall on the middle of the Texas coast midday Tuesday, according to the 
National Hurricane Center. With maximum winds still at 80 mph, the NHC 
predicts five to eight inches of rain will fall due to Claudette. These 
images from the Moderate-resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) 
aboard the Terra satellite capture the eye just passing over the coastline 
at 1:00 PM EDT today, July 15, 2003. Credit: Image courtesy Courtesy NASA 
and Space Science and Engineering Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison En







At 01:48 AM 7/28/03, you wrote:
Sorry to take up bandwidth on non-technical issues, but it does relate to
ColdFusion services and development in an obtuse kind of way ...


A supplier of services has claimed that the reason they didn't meet a
deadline on Sunday 13 July was because there was a severe hurricane in
Houston TX and damaged their datacenter, so they didn't have access to their
server equipment for two days.

Can anyone verify (or otherwise) that there was a hurricane in the Houston
area that day please?



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.






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Re: OT: Netscape 7.1

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Well, I did validate html and it's all clear.

Why not XHTML?  Cause I'm just now teaching myself enough about CSS to 
become proficient in it.  Haven't even begun to explore XHTML.  I did find 
out that my !Document... reference was incorrect so I'm going from there...

Are there any good CSS lists?


What is so strange about that? If you are using elements that are
in HTML 4 but not in 3.2, they will be ignored in 3.2 but
rendered in 4. That is intended behaviour.

Did you validate your HTML in both cases?
Why not write XHTML?


  The real question though is, now that AOL signed another multi-year
  agreement to use the IE engine in AOL ACK cough - sputter and laid off
  more NS staff, how long will it be before NS goes completely open source?

Never. Netscape is just as dead as standalone versions of IE. If
you want a browser that continues to evolve, look at Firebird or
Opera. If you want a communications suite that continues to
evolve, look at Mozilla.

Jochem



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RE: OT: Netscape 7.1

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 06:22 AM 7/28/03, you wrote:
http://www.css-discuss.org


Excellent resource - thanks for posting this!   After all these years in 
this industry, just now getting past my knees in CSS as a consistent 
solution feels both awkward and comfortable at the same time!




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Re: OT: Netscape 7.1

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Did you validate your HTML in both cases?
Why not write XHTML?

Jochem,

Thanks for asking me why not XHTML... I've done some reading up on it and 
yeah, it's pretty clear that I need to start learning this as well!

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Re: OT: Netscape 7.1

2003-07-28 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 10:51 AM 7/28/03, you wrote:
A lot of the browsers use !DocType to sniff what type of mode to put 
their browser in.  Standards mode means the browser tries to render 
Standards compliant. Quirks Mode means that it tries to render it the way 
it used to.

A listing of the various modes and browser compliance can be found at:
http://www.hut.fi/~hsivonen/doctype.html


This was invaluable!  Thanks for posting it! 

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Re: Looking for Tropical Web Dsign list member

2003-07-25 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 06:12 PM 7/25/03, you wrote:
shopping cart available for everyone, but UPS told me they're going
to start taking legal action against people that offer any sort of
modules and/or custom tags, etc. that integrates with their Online
Tools, free or otherwise, that isn't expressly licensed for that
purpose. That said, I can probably give you some sample code if you
need it.
--


For shipping charge calcs, I just this week contacted UPS about integrating 
their XML tool into my client sites - I've got several who have their own 
UPS accounts for shipping.  Tech support sent me an email back saying all I 
needed to do was download the XML tool from their site (ec.ups.com) and use 
it as I needed.  I'll be working on creating a CF process to extract the 
XML data sometime in the next couple weeks.

Are you saying that I'd be in violation of some UPS licensing rule in this? 
If so, must have been a decent tech support guy that emailed me and didn't 
mention that.  However if they have a way of tracking that stuff down, and 
I have to go through this insanity all over again, I'd rather hold off and 
get clarification!

As a stop-gap measure, I created my own little custom tag (well, it's 
really just a bunch of queries) that I connect to the client's databases 
where I put UPS Zone and Rate tables right into their databases using the 
most current rates.   It's not the greatest solution cause when rates 
change I'll need to post the new rates, which were only available in PDF 
format and meant I had to copy out the rates from the rate tables one at a 
time, turn them into CSVs, strip out $ signs (which appear only on the 
first row of each table!)  then import them.

Also, every Origination Zip requires it's own Zone tables!

So duh, yeah, XML is the way to go.

sigh




















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UPS, XML and CF5

2003-07-23 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I need to implement the  UPS shipping charge calculation method for an 
ecommerce site with XML (til now I've used the old UPSPrice system)...

The difficulty is twofold

First, I've never implemented XML

Second, I've only got CF 5 server (the only tag I found in the online 
gallery is a CFMX implementation)

Has anyone implemented this?  If so, I could really use a custom tag or the 
code logic... I'd even be willing to pay a reasonable fee for this if it's 
within my financial capability...

Help!!!

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Re: Usability

2003-07-10 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
just my 2 cents:

One of the most challenging issues is balancing dev to market time with 
usability that truly meets the needs of the target audience.

Idiot-proofing comes to mind as vital, yet to the extent that it can be 
done in deliverable time-lines.  Stripped out admin is something I ALWAYS 
go for.  Sure, it's cool to have a Java WYSIWYG admin interface, but is it 
NECESSARY?  Rarely if ever.  Sure having the Admin mirror the look of the 
site may give a warm-fuzzy to the site owner, usually at a dev time cost 
unjustifiable.

Help docs and admin systems are often filled with a plethora of developer 
terminology.  Too often it's assumed the user should know x or y.  To 
the point where that concern doesn't even cross the developer's mind.

Why give a site owner an OOP based admin system that inevitably requires 
training them on OOP vocabulary, logic and reasoning, when you can give 
them a plain HTML form with checkboxes, radio buttons and drop-down 
menus?  I've yet to see justification for that when the end-client is 
main-stream business owners with no desire need to learn more than basic 
click here mentality.
Of course, if the client hires us to provide a truly scalable, robust 
solution that is flexible to the nth degree, that is when OOP admin may 
make sense.  Anything else, no way.

 From my limited experience, this all arises out of a myopic understanding 
of best practices from the developer standpoint - ego and analytic thinking 
disallow the developer from stepping fully enough into the shoes of the user.

Again, just my limited experience and soapbox opinion...





At 01:05 PM 7/10/03, you wrote:
This is not a new question, however, IMHO, it won't
hurt to talk about it again.

In my view, some assumptions are made by developers
when they think of an application's usability, for
instance, for data validation, when a developer's help
doc says something like You need to enter an integer
for this entry/field, the assumption is that the user
knows what an integer is (any one who went to primary
school knows what an integer is).  Now, one may argue
that You need to enter some number for this
entry/field may sound easier to average user's ears.
I would beg to disagree here. Some number could be
728, or it could be 728.25 while the later would
fail because the data type is set to INT.

Secondly, I think presentation and usability are
closely tied together, and depending on the nature of
the application, presentation may need to be highly
polished or it need not to.  For instance, a fancy car
web site, presentation is certainly very important
while a data admin application/utility for just two or
three users does not need fancy presentation at all,
e.g. http://68.32.61.40/datadata/DataMan.cfm

What's your thought(s)?


Li, Chunshen (Don)


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RE: Calendar App

2003-06-27 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Peter, thanks for posting that - I just downloaded this and will give it a 
whirl next week when I can focus... pretty good as a core system...

At 01:37 AM 6/27/03, you wrote:
Have a look at
http://www.coldgen.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=ProductDetailsProductID=3 - and
it's totally free - but basic and easy to customise.

Peter Tilbrook
ColdFusion Applications Developer
ColdGen Internet Solutions
4/73 Tharwa Road
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

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-Original Message-
From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 27 June 2003 2:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Calendar App


On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 08:43 AM, Cutter (CF-Talk) wrote:

  I'm looking for a good CF Calendar App (freeware). Or just a solid DB
  design at the very least. Any suggestions?

I wrote a calendar-based app that I use internally to keep track of
Macromedia product development.  I installed a version of it outside
the firewall so people could take a look and try it out:

http://www.markme.com/cantrell/commtracker/

It's not pretty, but the functionality is decent.  Again, it's just
something I wrote for my own personal use (don't be surprised if you
are able to generate an error), but I was able to put the whole thing
together pretty quickly.  I generate the calendar using the
calendar.cfc from DRK 3 which made the whole project go much faster.
I'm still working on the code off and on, so maybe I'll release it when
it's finally ready.

Christian

PS: Safari users, if you have another browser, use it to view this app.
   Even Safari 1.0 does not seem to honor table heights.



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Re: WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying

2003-06-26 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Jochem is right.  There's no excuse for my failure to take the time to deal 
with this sooner.  Life brings us lessons all the time - it's up to us to 
determine whether we choose to have those lessons come with less pain or more.

At 04:15 AM 6/26/03, you wrote:
Michael Tangorre wrote:
  Wow Bad day?

Not yesterday. But I get pissed if somebody says I didn't know about
relaying. Pardon me, but if you put a mail server online it is your
responsibility to know.


The sad fact of the matter is that some mail server has been used to
send spam to the point where the server crashed. What does it take to
crash a mailserver? 1 million messages? 10 million? Let it be 5 million
messages, then that mail server has sent the equivalent of what the
administrator is receiving himself in 30 years. And apparently that
event one year ago was not enough to take the time to set up the system
in such a way that it could not be exploited any further.

Incorrectly configured systems may not be the cause of the spam problem,
but the are a necessary prerequisite.


Now today, today is a bad day. We are currently the victim of a small
(and rather weird) joe job, and are receiving bounces at a rate of
approximately 4 a minute, so it can't be long before the complaints
come. And all these messages have been send through open relays/proxies
(mainly DSL users in the UK this time).

Jochem




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Re: Calendar App

2003-06-26 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Yes, of course - this is a truly clean looking calendar, please include me!

At 03:10 AM 6/27/03, you wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a copy as well!

- Original Message -
From: Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: Calendar App


  I did a simple calendar app a few years ago, I could make it a lot better
  now but it works fine.
  http://www.myrtlebeachconventioncenter.com/eventcalendar/eventcalendar.cfm
 
  ~Dave
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:54 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Calendar App
 
 
  http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/coldfusion/customtags/index.cfm?tag=calendar
 
  Nowt fancy. Feel free to play about with it.
 
  Ade
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 26 June 2003 13:43
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Calendar App
 
 
  I'm looking for a good CF Calendar App (freeware). Or just a solid DB
  design at the very least. Any suggestions?
 
  Cutter
 
 
 
 

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RE: Calendar App

2003-06-26 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Yeah that's the one!

The others (with source links posted) help someone get started, however 
THIS one is the one with it all!

At 10:01 PM 6/26/03, you wrote:
That may not be the one peeps want - I was under the impression everyone
wanted the one from www.myrtlebeachconventioncenter.com ...

But, I'm usually wrong, so I may be on ths one ... ?

Tony Gruen

-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Calendar App


He posted a link for download in his original post.  Doesn't anyone read
their
email?

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: Calendar App


| I think everyone wants a copy. Can you post a link to download it? If you
| need an FTP for it let me know.
|
| Rick
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Ciliotta, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:30 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Calendar App
|
| Sorry for jumping in late, but if the source is available could I also get
a
| copy of it.
|
| Thanks,
| Mario
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Chris White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:14 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Calendar App
|
|
| I would like a copy also...
|
| Thanks,
|
| Chris
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:26 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: Calendar App
|
|
| At 01:22 PM 6/26/03 -0400, Jason Miller wrote:
| Definately interested.. I jsut started researching one!
|
| I wouldn't mind getting a copy either.
|
| T
|
| Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?  Move
| them to the Net!
| www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your
| favourites in one place and
| access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet.
|
|
|
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WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying

2003-06-25 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
If anyone can point me in a direction or to a mailing list on topic, I 
would greatly appreciate it.

I'm trying to breath life into my web work again, and this week discoverd 
that my little mail server IP (I'm running Post.office) was added to a 
SpamWatch list (ORDB.org) and I immediately got a call from a client that 
their email was rejected from a foriegn host because that host uses the 
ORDB service.

After two hours of trying to understand email relaying, I had no choice at 
the moment to stop ALL relaying to get off that server.  This however is 
completely unrealistic from how I understand relaying to work for clients...

Let's say I've got a client in California, who has a return address of one 
of my local accounts, but hey, they're not sending email from inside my 
network, so I originally said only allow relaying for mail with local 
domain names in the FROM field...

With spammers spoofing good FROM fields these days, ORDB says - no go 
so then I think my only choice is to allow specific IP's... but how am I 
supposed to know what IP a client is using if they're on a dial up account, 
say through AOL or PacBell, or some little host in Iowa that forces dynamic 
changing IPs with each log-on?

Their IP changes.  Surely I can't let ALL AOL IPs through or ALL PacBell 
IPs through... there's got to be spammers on one or both of those right?

So how do I deal with this?  What is the correct configuration?

Just as a side note - last year, before I even understood about relaying at 
ALL, I had allowed ALL mail through, and of course, my server flooded one 
day to the point of shutdown because some spammer found my server as an 
open invitation!  SO I truly need and want to do what's right here... hey - 
I already get over 500 spam emails a day filtering through my local 
workstation ya know?

Rafael

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Re: WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying

2003-06-25 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Uh, ok... so how does a small business owner that has a site I developed 
and host, do this then?  They're just using Eudora, or Outlook or Netscape 
Mail... And how do I check that this is required on my mail server?

At 06:18 PM 6/25/03, you wrote:
The correct configuration is SMTP AUTH where the user must send along 
his user
name and password in order to access your server.

Relaying of any other kind is verboten, and will get your system blocked.


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- Original Message -
From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying


| If anyone can point me in a direction or to a mailing list on topic, I
| would greatly appreciate it.
|
| I'm trying to breath life into my web work again, and this week discoverd
| that my little mail server IP (I'm running Post.office) was added to a
| SpamWatch list (ORDB.org) and I immediately got a call from a client that
| their email was rejected from a foriegn host because that host uses the
| ORDB service.
|
| After two hours of trying to understand email relaying, I had no choice at
| the moment to stop ALL relaying to get off that server.  This however is
| completely unrealistic from how I understand relaying to work for clients...
|
| Let's say I've got a client in California, who has a return address of one
| of my local accounts, but hey, they're not sending email from inside my
| network, so I originally said only allow relaying for mail with local
| domain names in the FROM field...
|
| With spammers spoofing good FROM fields these days, ORDB says - no go
| so then I think my only choice is to allow specific IP's... but how am I
| supposed to know what IP a client is using if they're on a dial up account,
| say through AOL or PacBell, or some little host in Iowa that forces dynamic
| changing IPs with each log-on?
|
| Their IP changes.  Surely I can't let ALL AOL IPs through or ALL PacBell
| IPs through... there's got to be spammers on one or both of those right?
|
| So how do I deal with this?  What is the correct configuration?
|
| Just as a side note - last year, before I even understood about relaying at
| ALL, I had allowed ALL mail through, and of course, my server flooded one
| day to the point of shutdown because some spammer found my server as an
| open invitation!  SO I truly need and want to do what's right here... hey -
| I already get over 500 spam emails a day filtering through my local
| workstation ya know?
|
| Rafael
|
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Re: WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying

2003-06-25 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Thanks for all the replies!  As I understand it there's two alternatives - 
either SMTP-Auth, or the client's SMTP settings set to their ISP.  Sadly, 
in the second case, I've previously had one client who uses RCN set her 
return address to one of my domains and RCN rejected it because it was not 
an RCN FROM address...


As for the antiquity of Post.Office, what can I say Mike?  Bill Taub got me 
into it back at ANT and I've never found the motive (TIL NOW) to replace 
it... hahaha OK so it's been like FIVE years with the same software.  Time 
to ditch it.





At 07:36 PM 6/25/03, you wrote:
Argosoft Mail Server is really nice. For less than $100.00 you have a very
intuitive and feature rich mail server. You can find it at
http://www.argosoft.com.

- Original Message -
From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: WAY OT - Setting Mail Server to block relaying


  Post.Office is officially abandonware and is close to impossible to
secure. I
  highly suggest getting a different mail server. Any mail server will do at
this
  point as long as it allows for security.
 
 
   If anyone can point me in a direction or to a mailing list on topic, I
   would greatly appreciate it.
  
   I'm trying to breath life into my web work again, and this week
discoverd
   that my little mail server IP (I'm running Post.office) was added to a
   SpamWatch list (ORDB.org) and I immediately got a call from a client
that
   their email was rejected from a foriegn host because that host uses the
   ORDB service.
 
 
 

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Re: CF Compatability

2003-06-15 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 04:58 AM 6/15/03 -0400, you wrote:
If you're free-lancing things are only marginally better. You don't quite
have to multiply by 3, since you don't have the overhead, but you do need to
multiply by 2.5 since you'll be paying all the FICA taxes, insurance, etc


There's a LOT more to it... Let's say I get a client who needs a $5,000 web 
site, and lets say that takes me 50 hours to build... What about all the 
hours, as an individual consultant, it took me to create my marketing 
materials, do my marketing, find prospects, meet with the prospects for a 
first meeting, do a thorough needs analysis, write a REAL proposal (yes, 
even at this level, I create REAL proposals - the kind I used to generate 
for our Fortune 1000 clients - sure they're pretty much all written from 
past work, however just cutting and pasting then customizing it for that 
clien takes time!), set up, configure and maintain my server, do countless, 
endless Microshod updates, upgrades, Service Pack installs, replace routers 
that fail, off-site back-ups

Then there's monthly book-keeping, clerical work, mailings, errands, losing 
two hours to get my computer to recognize it's hard drive again

Answer all my client's emails, explain to them over and over again why I 
can't resolve a customer error without knowing what the error was

So it's just too cut and dried, pat and personally, EXTREMELY myopic to can 
us into some rich dudes sittin in the high life here charging $100 an hour 
and having gobs of money left over...

Sorry( it just feels quite judgemental to be put into that box when someone 
hasn't lived this life...)


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Re: CF Compatability

2003-06-15 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Dave,

I do appreciate your desire to understand, however this email, as in the 
last one, has come across as judgementally attacking with a foundation 
based in a very limited undedstanding.  Intended or not, that's just how it 
comes across.  Poor business management how?

Because an individual consultant has all the hats to wear and has no 
justification, especially in this economy, to charge a client enough to 
cover all the hours that aren't otherwise billable hours?

  As an individual who can only get so much work done in one day, and who 
can only generate a certain maximum income based on that reality, is it 
poor business management to seriously consider a FREE solution for 
upgrading (if it truly does provide the benefits that I'd need), rather 
than expending valuable business capital  on what would ostensibly be 
billed as offering new features and benefits that none of my clients 
presently require? In fact, that's extremely wise business management.

So what is it that looks like poor management?   Speak freely - I've got 
eighteen years of business management now and while profits haven't always 
been exponentially increased, I've NEVER managed a company that didn't make 
at least some profit every single year...

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RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial

2003-06-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
As someone who has been running CF 5 Enterprise very succssfully, I'm 
curious as to the pros and cons, challenges that lie ahead if I were to 
consider moving to  The Dragaon.  I'm excited by it's potential, especially 
if MX functionality will be included - MX has some great features and 
functionality I've been hearing about, reading threads on.

In any regard, because I'm no longer the big company, just a guy struggling 
to find a way to rescussitate what would be a viable company somehow again, 
and have ZERO money for MX.

My biggest question is - if I've already got a copy of CF 5 Enterprise, 
would I need to do a fresh install with the Blue Dragon, or could I 
over-write the server?  If so, would I lose any of the settings?



At 11:09 AM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote:
Right, BlueDragon currently lacks support for Verity, Crystal Reports,
CFASSOCIATE, CFAUTHENTICATE, CFIMPERSONATE, CFAPPLET, and CFGRID tags. If
you need those, BD is not currently a solution for you.

We're slated to add CFASSOCIATE in our 3.1 version. The rest just don't have
the demand.

There are a handful of functions (authentication, locale-specific, and a
couple others) as well as just a few other issues that, again, we're working
on for 3.1. And support for more CFMX features is coming in 4. For more on
compatibility, see
http://www.newatlanta.com/downloads/bluedragon/3_0_2/BlueDragon_302_CFML_Com
patibility_Guide.pdf

I think a lot of people would be surprised to find how far BlueDragon has
come in its compatibility.

/charlie

  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:40 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial
 
 
  Hi Charlieyep, I am aware of BD, but its not 100% full featured AKAIK
  compared to CF5 and we need stay on MM :-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Charlie Arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 14 June 2003 15:39
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial
 
 
  FWIW, BlueDragon can be downloaded with no IP restriction for the first 30
  days, after which it turns into a single-IP developer edition. See
  http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home.
 
  Besides being substantially compatible with CF5, it also offers many
  benefits of CFMX (since it, too, is based on a J2EE platform).
 
  This isn't a sales pitch (since the Server edition is free for
  deployment),
  just a mention of technological alternative whose mention seemed
  appropriate
  in the context of this thread (someone looking for a means to run
  CF5 code).
 
  /charlie
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:29 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial
  
  
   Thanks,
  
   But can you not get the full Enterprise Edition rather than the
  Single IP
   restrictor?
  
   Thanks
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Deb Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 14 June 2003 14:28
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial
  
  
   http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html
   Third link from the bottom.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 5:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ColdFusion 5 Trial
   
   
Anyone know if you can still download CF5 Enterprise Trial
   edition? if so,
where can you get it?!?!?!?
   
  
  
 
 

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CFMX,BD... the question on many minds...

2003-06-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
WOW...

I decided to actually go out to the park today after working 185 or 190 
hours over the past two weeks, and the CFMX/BD thread went deep while I was 
gone!!!

OK - so after all that I've read, I still sit here with a fifty fifty 
issue, EXCEPT - Did I read correctly?  BD's CFQUERY does NOT natively allow 
escaping single-quotes?

THAT alone would force me to find a way to come up with the money for 
MX...  I put five years into developing my own proprietary site deployment 
and content management system, evolved into CF5. From the BD compatability 
chart, all looked excellent for me to migrate until I read that about 
single quotes...

  I would hate to think of the hours it would take just to pour over every 
one of my generator's code looking for where this might crash any one of 
the over fifty components I've got in it.

Just to pluck my own feathers, I'm truly grateful that though I came to CF 
with NO programming knowledge or experience, the fact that I was the 
Project manager with Mike Dinowitz and Vito Foraci being the coders on some 
huge sites got me thinking and processing web dev LIKE a real programmer... 
and it wasnt til I bailed from Computer Associates (11 months after Mike 
KNEW intuitively to move on) that I actually started doing my own coding

So of course Mike and Vito lived by CF even back then, and it was only 
natural that I started with CF... And from the beginning, I implemented 
Clean Code practices, proper nesting practices, and splitting up my work to 
where my generator does make extensive use of seperation - one page has a 
web form, another has the queries, and in many cases a third has the output...

Every site and every component I implement uses CFINCLUDE for headers and 
footers, AND navigation...  and application.cfm was a Godsend to me!!!

So why all the diatribes?   The bottom line is, I'm just one guy...  At 
peak I've been able to work on upwards of five, six or even seven sites at 
a time because of my training ground AND because of CF's far superiority at 
the learning curve - had I EVER needed to learn ASP or Java, I'd have 
bailed years ago... but with regard to something that I consider VITAL, 
like escaping single quotes,  like I said, I'm already putting in 12 to 18 
hours a day.. I'd just never have the time to go backwards over my work.




At 10:29 PM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote:
Sean, I wasn't denying that there was more than just those tags I'd listed.
In the next paragraph I said:

  There are a handful of functions (authentication, locale-specific, and a
  couple others) as well as just a few other issues that, again, we're
working
  on for 3.1. And support for more CFMX features is coming in 4. For more on
  compatibility, see ...

The few items you listed as continuing issues were among those I was
referring to above.  I know you're just trying to ensure that each side is
represented completely. I was relying on the document to explain the issues
rather than draw it out here. My focus mostly has been to communicate the
issues that may not be as obviously answered in the docs (or perhaps just
not sought as likely by most people) such as getting folks to appreciate the
architectural and other differences.

And I wasn't trying to hide what isn't in the free edition (which are a
handful of connectivity tags). It just didn't seem relevant to the
discussion. And even Ben has often pointed out how 80% of people use only
20% of tags, or something to that effect.

Indeed, Allaire's CF Express had limitations, too. But we allow way more
than it did, including: CFCACHE, CFCONTENT, CFDIRECTORY, CFERROR, CFFILE,
CFFORM/CFINPUT, and CFHEADER to name just a few. Heck, Express didn't even
allow CFMAIL. (For those interested in more about what CF Express didn't
allow, see
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/documents/cf4/acrobatdocs/40langrefe.pdf.)

So really, I think most people would find the free Server edition to be more
than adequate for most CFML apps. But, again, it's clearly not our raison
d'etre. It's just a solution to help preserve the vitality of CFML for those
who can't afford $1300 for CF 5 or MX, or $549 for our Server JX product
(which besides adding those tags you mentioned also allows running JSPs
alongside CFML templates and lots of other MX-like J2EE-based features.)

/charlie

  -Original Message-
  From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:46 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: ColdFusion 5 Trial
 
 
  On Saturday, Jun 14, 2003, at 08:09 US/Pacific, Charlie Arehart wrote:
   Right, BlueDragon currently lacks support for Verity, Crystal Reports,
   CFASSOCIATE, CFAUTHENTICATE, CFIMPERSONATE, CFAPPLET, and CFGRID tags.
   If
   you need those, BD is not currently a solution for you.
 
  There's also quite a few attributes on other tags that are not
  supported - see the compatibility guide on New Atlanta's website. Also
  note that there are several features not available in the free server
  

Re: CF Compatability

2003-06-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
The Lexus-Toyota debate...

More than a couple on the list placed the concept of a few bucks being 
the difference between MX and BD free version...

First, I may be working more hours than I ever did, however most of this is 
unbillable hours these days - I'm forcing myself to learn Flash - not just 
intros that I've been doing for a year... REAL Flash - ActionScript, 
connecting to CF... because in the past year I watched my work 
opportunities dry up more than ever, and my company folded, though I am 
still in the game, after over 8 years of web development... so I get to 
reinvent myself to move forward.

So for me, SURE some of the time I still charge $100 or $150 an hour... 
that's the exception for me now not the rule anymore...  Now, it's hey- 
I've got to come up with food money again... oh wow - out of the ten 
proposals I sent out THREE months ago, ONE came back and they want to know 
if I'll do the work on condition that they pay me in 18 monthly 
installments!  Holy Canoli !   What do I say - sorry - I am saving up to 
upgrade to MX, so either you pay me in three payments, ALL before you go 
live?  Sorry - too many weeks and months of eating New York City vendor hot 
dogs as my source of nourishment to play that game these days.

Besides - I don't know to presume where you live Dave, but here in the big 
apple, we pay premium bucks for the smallest living quarters (all 
ostensibly to have access to the big bucks clients that now seem to be 
putting off new web work)...

Got to the point last year where I walked away from my beautiful Mustang 
convertible - with just six payments left on a five year plan...

This is ANYTHING other than complaining, bitching, or pity-potting... This 
is simple reality at the moment.  So FREE is always  in this scenario a 
better alternative than $1300!!!



At 08:14 PM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote:
depends on how you look at it

if you have ever owned a Toyota  a Lexus you know the difference in the
Lexus is superior and you don't mind spending the few extra bucks for one,
although both are good products:) but not the same.

It would take an awful lot to get me away from MM. To some people I would
say the .net part is attractive, to me its really not. After all one of the
reasons I left asp was to get away from the big machine (M$).
But then again I'm not much of a developer (right Ben, lol) I'm a business
man  I know that if I walked into a meeting and had to prove my case with
cf against a .net user that I'd squash him.

could go on  on but I don't want Charlie Griefer making fun of my spelling
anymore, hahaha, jk Charlie

to the other Charlie @ new atlanta:
Charlie, I'm a bit different than most people on the list in that I'm not a
developer by trade. Actually, I own a real estate company  I do this as a
hobby. From my perspective it seems that in most cases Blue Dragon is still
at cf 5.0. And I basically have been learning cf from cfmx  I just can't
see me going backwards to learn what yesterday had. I realize a lot of
people are still at 4.5 but a lot aren't. And with the more recent pushes by
MM to keep cf going forward more people are starting to come over and I
can't see them not doing what I am. That is learning from cfmx.
The biggest complaint I hear from people is the cost. Truthfully I don't
really buy that completely. Sure its some cash but when these shops are
charging $100 + an hour  you can write off what 65% or so of the cost , its
only a few hours of actual on the clock costs.

but anyway, like I said I'm not knocking your product at all, actually
sometimes its intriguing. But Just thought I'd tell ya what this consumers
perception is from basically just reading what has been said on this list
over the last few months.

~you can have my girl but don't touch my car or my dwmx!~

haha, jk:)

dave









- Original Message -
From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: CF Compatability


   But will I give up my Lexus for a Toyota..nope:)(the girls
  like
   it)
  
   dave
  
 
 
  then you haven't seen my Toyota :)
 
  by the way, *IF* this is the analogy you mean, then you're making
Charlie's
  case for him, since it's what's under the hood that counts -- otherwise
all
  we're doing is drinking th emarketing kool-aid and we might just as well
  call CFCs true objects and be done with it.
 
 

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RE: OT~ but a good laugh:)

2003-06-12 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
hahaha  I've been dealing with clients who like FrontPage since the Spring 
of 96!  Visualize converting fifty uniquely coded FrontPage web pages 
into reasonably usable HTML pages, by hand, line by line for the first 
half dozen til you can catalogue all the common extra code, then globally 
stripping those out, then finally going back and looking line by line for 
all the anomalies.

And if it's still going on, why would anyone even begin to believe Billy's 
got his Redmond staff working on dealing with that at this point?  hahaha






download the whole large uncompressed file.  Add to that all the burden code
they have with fragmented tags, font tags on and off everywhere, empty
paragraph tags, empty font tags, additional and unnecessary style tags etc
etc.. and you can take a page from 150kb down to about 15mb without doing a
lot of thinking.

Oh and  don't try to look at their sites with Netscape.

I do hope this new version is better.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.




-Original Message-
From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 7:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)

as usual you are correct jochem
heres the rest:
Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 We've really focused on generating

clean, industry-standard HTML code. they claim. We expect it to produce

proprietary, MS-oriented mark-up that only works in IE6. But then we're

cynical. Click here

http://rss.com.com/2100-1012_3-1015009.html?type=pt%02%22=rsstag=feed;
subj=news to read more.

Any of you going to stop using DMX and start using FrontPage? Tell us by

mailing Bruce Lawson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)


  Dave Lyons wrote:
   Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 We've really focused on
   generating clean, industry-standard HTML code. they claim.
 
  That would be quite a change. IIRC, during the anti-trust trials Bill
  Gates himself has delivered sworn testimony that Frontpage is designed
  to only work with IE.
 
  Jochem




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Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)

2003-06-12 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
If there's ONE advantage more than any other that I am grateful for, it's 
that I started building web sites back in January of 95.  Netscape 0.9 beta 
was the browser to beat all browsers, however the majority of surfers were 
still using Linx (a text based browser - NO images!), and there were about 
30 others on the market that year... Mosaic, Netcom, Prodigy...

So I had NO CHOICE back then but to learn raw HTML, yes, using NOTEPAD.  Of 
course for the past several years I've been using HomeSite, however 
when  I'm out at a client's and there's a quick fix to be had, I always 
just open NotePad.  Billy's good for SOME software after all!





At 09:42 PM 6/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
i must admit, i did start with fp98
I'm assuming thats why I cant spell now;)


- Original Message -
From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: OT~ but a good laugh:)


  hahaha  I've been dealing with clients who like FrontPage since the Spring
  of 96!  Visualize converting fifty uniquely coded FrontPage web pages
  into reasonably usable HTML pages, by hand, line by line for the first
  half dozen til you can catalogue all the common extra code, then
globally
  stripping those out, then finally going back and looking line by line for
  all the anomalies.
 
  And if it's still going on, why would anyone even begin to believe Billy's
  got his Redmond staff working on dealing with that at this point?  hahaha
 
 
 
 
 
 
  download the whole large uncompressed file.  Add to that all the burden
code
  they have with fragmented tags, font tags on and off everywhere, empty
  paragraph tags, empty font tags, additional and unnecessary style tags
etc
  etc.. and you can take a page from 150kb down to about 15mb without doing
a
  lot of thinking.
  
  Oh and  don't try to look at their sites with Netscape.
  
  I do hope this new version is better.
  
  
  Cheers,
  Michael Kear
  Windsor, NSW, Australia
  AFP Webworks.
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 7:08 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
  
  as usual you are correct jochem
  heres the rest:
  Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 We've really focused on generating
  
  clean, industry-standard HTML code. they claim. We expect it to produce
  
  proprietary, MS-oriented mark-up that only works in IE6. But then we're
  
  cynical. Click here
  
  http://rss.com.com/2100-1012_3-1015009.html?type=pt%02%22=rsstag=feed 
  subj=news to read more.
  
  Any of you going to stop using DMX and start using FrontPage? Tell us by
  
  mailing Bruce Lawson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
  
  
Dave Lyons wrote:
 Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 We've really focused on
 generating clean, industry-standard HTML code. they claim.
   
That would be quite a change. IIRC, during the anti-trust trials Bill
Gates himself has delivered sworn testimony that Frontpage is designed
to only work with IE.
   
Jochem
  
  
  
  
 

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conversion problem SOT

2003-02-06 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
New problem with my csv process...  I've got one column that occasionally 
spits out bad text - I start with an Excel spreadsheet, convert the column 
format to TEXT  and save it as a CSV file...  When I convert it all looks 
fine... When I close it and reopen it, the field on SOME rows has all POUND 
SIGNS in it - all the text is gone..

WHAT could possibly cause this?  It's not all rows that have text in that 
column - only some.

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RE: Sound Resources

2003-02-05 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
http://www.killersound.com

Excellent sounds - the free comps are not so perfect, however just signing 
up for free gets you full quality comps and for high quality high end sites 
their pricing is great.  

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CF Query process times

2003-02-05 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I've got an ECommerce site and every page but the home page loads 
reasonably fast however the home page takes an average of 24 seconds to 
process - when I debug and add up the process time of all the queries that 
are running, they only total 160 milliseconds...   which makes no sense to 
me...

With debug on each query that's run shows the time like this:
GetHomeProduct (Records=6, Time=10ms)

Does this mean it tookk 10 milliseconds to run that query and get all six 
records, or 10 milliseconds for every record?

How else can I determine the cause of the slowdown?

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Re: Jeremy Allaire leaving MM

2003-02-05 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Just read this and understand his wanting to stretch and change...  an 
amazing guy who has helped to permanently and positively change the 
Internet on a huge scale - Jeremy's work (and everyone who founded Allaire) 
has touched and influenced so many lives...  Along with Marc Andreesen, 
Vint Cerf, and Linus Torvalds, I've always seen Jeremy as a true visionary 
three cuts above the world...

At 05:08 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote:
Well it looks like Jeremy is leaving:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0113297/2003/02/05.html#a113

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
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Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
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www.cfug-vancouverisland.com

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RE: CF Query process times

2003-02-05 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 04:25 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
Maybe it's not the queries which are slow? Maybe the server is overwhelmed,
so it has to wait longer to get database connections, etc, and your queries
themselves are only taking a fraction of that time.

It's only on the one page - no matter how many times I try the other pages 
on this site or any page on any other site on the server, it's never more 
than a second or two... just this page, so I figured it can't be a server 
issue.


The slowdown could be caused by something else entirely. If you can, use a

Are there any shareware or freeware load testing programs out there?  

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CF 5 CFIF NOT LIKE

2003-02-03 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I need to verify if a field does NOT contain FOR  ...  I have tried
CFIF #ProductDesc# IS NOT LIKE FOR FREE GIFT/CFIF
and
CFIF #GetProduct# NOT CONTAINS FOR FREE GIFT/CFIF

but both choke... For now I am using
CFIF #GetProduct# CONTAINS FOR CFELSEFREE GIFT/CFIF

Which is clugy - I need a way to do it without the CFELSE...

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Re: CF 5 CFIF NOT LIKE

2003-02-03 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
That's what I love about CF and this community - there's six ways to slice 
the bread and I get to choose...

Thanks to all who replied

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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
We run Win2K  Server and we've found that ServU is great

Had to upgrade to the latest version because of our firewall settings 
(locked down the ports and our IP is now stealth and without the upgrade 
some (not all) Unix and Mac customers were getting intermittent 
connections, failed connections... but once we did the upgrade we were able 
to resolve that.

When a new client needs FTP, it takes all of 45 seconds to give them unique 
password protected secure access including setting an upload quota.







At 08:42 AM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:
Hi, Matt, et al...

Now that I know its a great FTP server,
which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
from within Serv-U without any issues?

In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
administration on Windows 2000 Server?

Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
on usage, etc.?

Thanks,

Rick




   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
 
 
   Hi Rick,
 
   I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
   my ISPs used
   it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
   invaluable
   feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
   give a user
   access to different directories which aren't necessaily
   grouped together.
 
   Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
   own question :D
 
   --Matt Robertson--
   MSB Designs, Inc.
   http://mysecretbase.com
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
   Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
 
 
HI, Matt.
   
I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
but still not sure what it's used for.
Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
   
I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
   
(Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
   User FTP accounts
on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
   
Rick
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?


  http://serv-u.com :D

  I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.

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  date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100

  Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
  Where do I find
  it?
  
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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 11:15 AM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:

Do I have to disable IIS FTP management to use it,
as someone mentioned with another FTP management tool?

It's been over a year since I installed it on the Win2k server. Don't 
remember if we deactivated that or not.  I do remember it being simple to 
set up.. 

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FED EX OR UPS SHIPPING LABEL TAG?

2003-01-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Has anyone developed a Custom CF tag for, or implemented an off the shelf 
solution for automatically generating UPS or FedEx shipping labels?  What's 
this cost?  How insane is it to implement?  Does it require third party 
software?

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RE: New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-30 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Andy,

Because I'm already into this with hours of code, and need at least a 
temporary solution, and as I'm so close with this one, what kind of code do 
I need to include in my loop to deal with this specific scenario?

  when it is a,b,c,d it works but when it's a,b,c, it errors out



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ListFix UDF Question

2003-01-30 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 04:56 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
- basically it ignores them. Try ListFix,
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=507, to change the null entries to

Raymond,

I looked at this udf - looks great for mid-string changes, however I've got 
two questions -

1.  How do I include this udf into the loop below
2.  does it work for empty spots in the string on the end of a row or just 
in the middle between two commas?

cffile action=READ 
file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\briona\secure\modernstorage\shop\control\QuantumUpTry.csv 
variable=read_file
cfloop index=line list=#read_file# 
delimiters=#chr(10)##chr(13)#
cfloop from=1 to=3 index=num
   cfquery name=update_file datasource=ModernStorageECom
  UPDATE  Products
  SET
  JPG = '#listgetAt('#line#',2, ',')#',
  PDF = '#listgetAt('#line#',3, ',')#'
  where (MFGPartNumber = '#listgetAt('#line#',1, ',')#')
   /cfquery
/cfloop
/cfloop

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RE: New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-30 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 08:38 AM 1/30/03 -0600, you wrote:
I've attached what I use to parse my CSV's into an array, which I can then


Andy - no attachment!  

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Re: SOT: Serv-U? TOTALLY AWESOME

2003-01-30 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I've been using FTP Serv-U since 1996...  It's got to be the most 
Administrator Friendly FTP Server out there...

Totally effortless adding modifying and deleting of FTP accounts, with 
quotas, ftp rights control limits, user tracking, the works...all through 
the FTP Serv-U window - no need to do the Windows Server Admin / Groups 
thing at all...

We used it at ANT Internet /Computer Associates when we managed over 350 
web sites on dozens of servers and I've been hooked ever since.   

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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-30 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
stat: (previously stated) - at ANT Internet/Computer Associates Nethaven 
Division we hosted over 350 client sites on dozens of servers using FTP 
ServU exclusively

stat: at Briona Net I host over 35 sites using ServU - have been running my 
own  license of it since I left CF in October of 97...  Just got the 
upgrade license two days ago.

It's an excellent program from a hosting perspective.

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 02:25 PM 1/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
Turn on display query in Admin Debug.  Check to see the result of the WHERE
clause.  Most likely, it is not turning out the way you think.


I turned on Display Query and guess what - BLANK PAGE - for some reason, it 
appears the query isn't even running!  The file is where it belongs, I'm 
not getting any error messages about trying to read it...  

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Yeah - the query info shows up on all my other pages, just not on this one 
so the query isn't running!

At 01:50 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
You did remember to check (in the cf admin) to see if debug output is
being restricted to an IP? I believe out of the box debugging is
restricted to 127.0.0.1.

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  -Original Message-
  From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:39 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CSV loop
 
 
  At 02:25 PM 1/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
  Turn on display query in Admin Debug.  Check to see the
  result of the
  WHERE clause.  Most likely, it is not turning out the way you think.
 
 
  I turned on Display Query and guess what - BLANK PAGE - for
  some reason, it
  appears the query isn't even running!  The file is where it
  belongs, I'm
  not getting any error messages about trying to read it...
 



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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 02:17 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have this:

cfsetting showdebugoutput=No

on your page, or in your Application.cfm file? Do you see _other_ debug
info on the page?


This is not set, however no other debug info appears - interestingly 
enough, when I put a CFOUTPUT with one of the variables above the query 
on the page, the end page does show that info, so it's processing code ok, 
but once it reaches that query, nothing else shows up.  

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Well, no other debug info shows up on the page where the query is - it's 
like everything ceases at that point... CFOUTPUTs work on the page but only 
ABOVE the query code.  If I put it below the query it doesn't show up.

I've never done CFDump before... what's that do?


At 02:51 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
So every other piece of debug info shows up but the query itself. What
happens if you cfdump the query?

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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:19 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CSV loop
 
 
  At 02:17 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
  Do you have this:
  
  cfsetting showdebugoutput=No
  
  on your page, or in your Application.cfm file? Do you see
  _other_ debug
  info on the page?
 
 
  This is not set, however no other debug info appears - interestingly
  enough, when I put a CFOUTPUT with one of the variables
  above the query
  on the page, the end page does show that info, so it's
  processing code ok,
  but once it reaches that query, nothing else shows up.
 
 

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RE: invalid precision value

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
For all those who helped with the Invalid Precision value error that came 
up when inserting from a CSV, thanks - I figured it out on my own finally - 
it turns out that for whatever reason, I had to go into Excel and highlight 
that column and manually set the cells to TEXT, then resave it, even though 
I'd saved it as a CSV file already...  go figure.   

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Ray,

Thanks so much for guiding me through all this - it's quite frustrating...

OK, so how do I implement it?  I tried the code below, and again, it comes 
up with a blank...

cfset delims=,
cfset numcols=3
CFOUTPUT#Delims#/CFOUTPUT
!--- read the file --
cffile
action=read

file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\briona\secure\modernstorage\shop\control\QuantumModify.csv
 variable=read_file

cfloop index=line list=#read_file# delimiters=#chr(13)# 
!--- loop through the columns --
cfloop from=1 to=#numcols# index=num
   cfquery name=update_file datasource=ModernStorageECom
  UPDATE  Products
  SET
  JPG = '#listgetAt('#line#',2, ',')#',
  PDF = '#listgetAt('#line#',3, ',')#'
  where (MFGPartNumber = '#listgetAt('#line#',1, ',')#')
   /cfquery
/cfloop
/cfloop

CFDUMP var=#update_file#


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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
HOLY CANNOLI - CFDUMP on the file - zip, nada, nothin... I put the word 
HELLO on the page after the CFFILE, and it doesnt show - put it up above, 
and it does!  So it's not my query

At 03:28 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Ah - you should check and see if read_file is empty first - before your
cfloop, do a dump on that. Make sure you are actually looping. Or you
can also add debug statements in your cfloop tags..

cfoutputGoing over a line, the line is #line#, enjoyp/cfoutput

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  -Original Message-
  From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:20 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CSV loop
 
 
  Ray,
 
  Thanks so much for guiding me through all this - it's quite
  frustrating...
 
  OK, so how do I implement it?  I tried the code below, and
  again, it comes
  up with a blank...
 
  cfset delims=,
  cfset numcols=3
  CFOUTPUT#Delims#/CFOUTPUT
  !--- read the file --
  cffile
action=read
 
  file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\briona\secure\modernstorage\shop\cont
  rol\QuantumModify.csv
variable=read_file
 
  cfloop index=line list=#read_file# delimiters=#chr(13)#
  !--- loop through the columns --
  cfloop from=1 to=#numcols# index=num
 cfquery name=update_file datasource=ModernStorageECom
UPDATE  Products
SET
JPG = '#listgetAt('#line#',2, ',')#',
PDF = '#listgetAt('#line#',3, ',')#'
where (MFGPartNumber = '#listgetAt('#line#',1, ',')#')
 /cfquery
  /cfloop
  /cfloop
 
  CFDUMP var=#update_file#
 
 
 

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
It turns out that it's not the query crappin out - it's the FILE... 
Everything I try to display (regular text, Variable outputs) BEFORE the 
CFFILE tag works, but everything after does not show up at all - so 
apparently the query isn't even gotten to.


At 03:35 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Are you sure the page is being hit?  If you don't display anything on the
page, add a single CfoutputHERE I AM/cfoutput to the page to make sure
that you are actually hitting the code.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CSV loop


Well, no other debug info shows up on the page where the query is - it's
like everything ceases at that point... CFOUTPUTs work on the page but only
ABOVE the query code.  If I put it below the query it doesn't show up.

I've never done CFDump before... what's that do?


At 02:51 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
 So every other piece of debug info shows up but the query itself. What
 happens if you cfdump the query?
 
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   -Original Message-
   From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:19 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: CSV loop
  
  
   At 02:17 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
   Do you have this:
   
   cfsetting showdebugoutput=No
   
   on your page, or in your Application.cfm file? Do you see
   _other_ debug
   info on the page?
  
  
   This is not set, however no other debug info appears - interestingly
   enough, when I put a CFOUTPUT with one of the variables
   above the query
   on the page, the end page does show that info, so it's
   processing code ok,
   but once it reaches that query, nothing else shows up.
  
  
 


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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 03:41 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
cffile ...
cfoutputHello/cfoutput

And you are saying the Hello doesn't show? And it's ABOVE the cfloop?

That's correct - and just in case it was some crazy cffile syntax, I 
deleted it and pasted in a known good cffile tag and just referred to one 
of my csv files... 

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 03:37 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Add a bunch of output statements so that you can see what's going on.

I've got CFOUTPUTs all over - before, and after the file tag, which comes 
before the cfloop - so it's not the query it's a problem with the cffile 
tag... but I scrapped it and used a known good cffile from another form... 
and still it dies there with no errors shown.  I also checked to be sure 
it's a good csv it's reading 

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I think I'm onto it... I stripped everything out and now for whatever 
reason, it's reading the file finally!

I think its working now - it's finally giving me loop query errors and 
cfdump displays the contents of the CSV...which is a GREAT sign







At 03:55 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken - something very odd is going on. For code after the
cffile to just ... stop ... without any error thrown to the screen is
not good. Here is another test - right after the cffile, use a cflog
tag to log a test message to the application log. See if it gets added.

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  -Original Message-
  From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:47 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CSV loop
 
 
  At 03:37 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
  Add a bunch of output statements so that you can see what's going on.
 
  I've got CFOUTPUTs all over - before, and after the file tag,
  which comes
  before the cfloop - so it's not the query it's a problem with
  the cffile
  tag... but I scrapped it and used a known good cffile from
  another form...
  and still it dies there with no errors shown.  I also checked
  to be sure
  it's a good csv it's reading
 
 

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RE: CSV loop

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
IT'S  WORKING

Sam, Raymond, Andy, thanks for the help and guidance...


Ultimately, I honestly don't know why the CFFILE wasn't functioning, which 
drives me nuts because that was the biggest mistery of all...   never to be 
discovered, as so many are not...
Once I resolved that, it was debugging the query loop - and it turned out 
that in the query loop there were  marks inside the query so it was 
looking for

   where (MFGPartNumber = '#listgetAt('#line#',1, ',')#')

instead of   where (MFGPartNumber = '#listgetAt('#line#',1, 
',')#')  (double quote stuck inside the end of the WHERE clause so as a 
result it was appending all of the field content with a   and as a result 
there were NO matches!

WOW... 

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New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss


OK so shoot me in the foot -  if my csv file has x records and any 
of  those records have  a BLANK field- this won't work... it comes back 
with an error in the loop.   Is there any way to force it to fill in a 
field with a null?  This is especially important with the last record last 
field position.

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RE: New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 04:56 PM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
Is your problem like a typical record looks like this :a,b,c,d but when it
is a,b,c, it error out?  Or is your problem when the record is ?


It's like:  row 1  a,b,c,d
 row 2 a,b,c,

so it craps out on row 2 (sometimes this is in the middle of the file, 
othertimes it's the last record.) 

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Re: New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 06:11 PM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
Create a ODBC Text Datasource to the file one the machine and then
just use cfquery to turn it into a query...which you can loop over or

THe problem is it's a multi-thousand record product table from multiple 
manufacturers and new prices come out all the time - so the client needs a 
way to batch change specific product records...  If I create an ODBC 
connection, wouldn't I need to shut it off for every time the Text 
datasource is changed?  

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Re: New problem with csv... argghhh

2003-01-29 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
wow this is clearly the way to go moving forward - but now I need to ask if 
I'm so far into this already that I need to bully my way through based on 
current contract work/payments, or scrap all these hours...


At 08:11 PM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
By editing the schema.ini file you can add a text datasource with CF's
ini file functions. That way you can dynamically add dsn's when the
end user uploads the file. Take a look at the format of the schema.ini
file that is created, it's pretty straightforward.

The fact that these files are very large, would be a reason to not
write a manual parsing routine. Microsoft (or someone they bought :))
already wrote a very good and fast csv parser into the ODBC Text
driver...no need to recreate the wheel imo. I wrote quite a few csv
imports using CF manually and there is still a indentation the size of
my forehead on my desk because of those sleepless nights :)
If you were working with SQL Server, using DTS to do the import would be a
great way as well. Just wanted to throw some options your way.

This is a cffunction that takes the filename after is has been
uploaded, and creates the Text DSN, and returns the query. It could be
easily modified it work in previous versions of CF though.

cffunction name=cvsToQuery returntype=query
 cfargument name=filename type=string
 cfset var schemaFile = E:\schema.ini

 cfif len(trim(getProfileString(schemaFile, arguments.filename, 
 ColNameHeader))) EQ 0
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, ColNameHeader, False)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, Format, CSVDelimited)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, MaxScanRows, 0)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, CharacterSet, OEM)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, Col1, CUSTNAME Char Width 255)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, Col2, REPNAME Char Width 255)
 cfset rs = setProfileString(schemaFile, 
 arguments.filename, Col3, CUSTEMAIL Char Width 255)
 /cfif
 cfquery datasource=textsource name=textqry
 SELECT *
 FROM [#arguments.filename#]
 /cfquery
 cfreturn textqry
/cffunction


--
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 7:27:05 PM, you wrote:
RAB At 06:11 PM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
 Create a ODBC Text Datasource to the file one the machine and then
 just use cfquery to turn it into a query...which you can loop over or

RAB THe problem is it's a multi-thousand record product table from multiple
RAB manufacturers and new prices come out all the time - so the client 
needs a
RAB way to batch change specific product records...  If I create an ODBC
RAB connection, wouldn't I need to shut it off for every time the Text
RAB datasource is changed?

RAB

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invalid precision value

2003-01-23 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I'm uploading a csv file into Access in a loop using the 
CSV2Data   custom tag- adding new records and I get the following error:


ODBC Error Code = S1104 (Invalid precision value)


I've uploaded ten csv files that all worked well but this one blows up... 
What can cause this error message?

One of my fields contains a lot of text (importing it into a Memo field, 
and there's commas inside the contents of the field but I was under the 
impression that this is acceptable in such a tag.


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RE: invalid precision value

2003-01-23 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
OK Field 1, 2, 3 - This is, perhaps reasonable so, OK, 4-This tends to
Blow Up, many times.

Field 4 tends to end up as 2 or more fields, and if your tag doesn't fix
this bombs out the insert/update.


Further research shows that previous csv uploads had commas in that field 
and they were processed out properly in the tag loop...  so there's some 
sort of bad data apparently in the csv I'm trying to post.   I just can't 
find it.   

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Re: CFserver 5 and Symantic AntiVirus

2003-01-22 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
We run Win2k Professional, CF 5, IIS and Norton Corporate on our shared 
server with 35 sites, 20k visitors a month or more... no known glitches

At 10:18 AM 1/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
The company I work for wants me to use Symantic AntiVirus Corp Edition on 
the web server. Does anyone know if it plays rough with CF Server 5, IIS 
or anything else for that matter?

Thanks!

Phillip B.

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CF to MS Word or PDF - setting Margins and page size?

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Has anyone worked with creating an MS Word or PDF doc where you control the 
margins?  I have a site that will need to generate a 100 page document in 
book format - with a predefined paper size, margin settings and page 
numbering - especially opposing page margins :
Left pages
right margin of 1.25 inches
left margin of 0.5 inches
Right pages
left margin 1.25 inches
right margin 0.5 inches
Paper size
5.25 x 7
Page Numbering
Starting on page 3 number pages 1,2,3,etc...

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UPS Live Feed Problem

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I've been using CF_UPSPrice to pull live UPS fees for shipping on a site 
for a couple years and recently anyone choosing Ground Commercial has been 
getting an error message back - does anyone know what happened with 
that  method of shipping?

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String matches

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
If I have a string that can contain one or more entries, and I  want to 
match it  against a table field, what's the best CF5 way of doing 
this?  The string MAY have a comma, but if only one entry is in it there's 
no comma...

For Example, if my string is:

CFSET MyString=MA32-30443,20WQ11,4055392T5

OR if my string is:
CFSET MyString=39EUWI33

how do I compare that to a datatable that would possibly have at least ONE 
of the entries in the string?

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Re: String matches

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Is it a single entry, or have you put a list of items in the db field?

It's in a form that a client has so they can search for one or more 
records... the form creates the string.  It's a pain in the butt issue so 
for now it's what I've got to work with.  

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RE: String matches

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
How about:

SELECT *
FROM myTable
WHERE myField IN ('#myString#')


WOuld that work even if the String is only one item and there's no 
delimiter?  Or do I have to force a delimiter?  Like I could apppend the 
variable with a comma at the end if none is found?

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RE: String matches

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
 Does this handle your needs? (Or do you have more than one potential 
value in each myField field?)

 WHERE myField IN (#listqualify(myString, ')#)


The string would be compared to a table field that always only has one item 
in it in the database.So the STRING might have no items, one item or 
more items, but the data field will always have ONE  or NONE...

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UPS or FedEx Shipping Labels

2003-01-21 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Anyone implement automatic creation of UPS or FedEx Shipping Labels, with 
related tracking interactivity?  Any guidance, direction, cost factoring 
would be greatly appreciated.   

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OT PHP Mail List or UG?

2003-01-18 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Can anyone refer me to a PHP mailing list or UG like we have for CF? 

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RE: Visual Fusion - Thoughts?

2003-01-16 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 01:52 PM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
If they can't afford a server... what makes you think they will pay $75
an hour + hosting?


Ahhh  the trick is, over the past five years I've developed a proprietary 
system that I use to generate 60% to 80% of the sites I build on the fly so 
I don't have to do all the tedious labor - that lets me focus all my energy 
on the purely customized aspects of a client site so I can get it done in 
60 to 80% less time than typical - and so I can get the rate I get for the 
same work that would take someone else twice as long to do the same job.

Just this week I had a prospective client say he was leaning toward a 
competitor who said they would put extra programmers on the job to get it 
done in three weeks and I said - not to worry - we don't need to put extra 
programmers on the job and we guarantee in the contract that we'll deliver 
it in two weeks.He liked that better.


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RE: Alternatives to MS Access (WAS Re: MS Access)

2003-01-16 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I have a client with two eCommerce sites I built that run on Access because 
that's what the client budget allowed for the two sites generate 
roughly 15,000 people a month between the two sites and several thousand 
dollars in revenue a month for the client - this isn't enterprise level but 
that type of client is my idea of a perfect Access candidate as a starting 
point.  With consistent sales performance they can then eventually 
justifying the painless upgrade and scaling into SQL server.

Another similar client generates nearly half a million dollars in revenue a 
year on the Access driven web site I built for them back in 1999.  Again, 
it may not be Fortune 1000 but any site that will make a company half a 
million dollars a year in revenue that they paid less than $5,000 to have 
developed and that uses Access is pretty compelling a reason to say that 
Access has it's place.   In that case the client insisted on it, but hey - 
over three years later it's still fast, consistent and solid.The site 
itself runs smoothly - it's the live feed to UPS that craps out from time 
to time thanks to the UPS site being down!

I'll never forget how I was blown away when I discovered the compact and 
repair function.  I used to take a db that I'd created for a previous 
client and use a copy of it for a new site, sans data yet it always bugged 
me that a db with zero records was several megs!



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Re: Visual Fusion - Thoughts?

2003-01-15 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote:
 If a client won't pay a few grand for a server, then usually the job is
 not worth my time. Additionally, these are the clients who will ask for


Oh my God... yeah?  Send those clients to me - I'd be happy to get the $75 
an hour for my time that I charge regardless of whether they want their own 
server or not!

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SOT Javascript Navigation

2003-01-15 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
OK - all you MAC guru's - I'm finishing up a brand new CF ecommerce site 
using Javascript/DHTML/Stylesheets to generate dropdown tiered menus  and 
pulling the nav data from my database

It's the first time I've ever done this kind of nav menu (ok - it's ancient 
technology   I know...) and it's awesome on PCs  but on Macs running IE 5, 
IE 5.1 or Netscape 4.7 the entire navigation menu shows up half way down 
the page from where it's supposed to be positioned!

Either I need to know how to fix the code if that's the problem, or how to 
detect someone viewing the site with a Mac and IE or Netscape

Also, if ANYONE has AOL  (MAC AND OR PC)  please also look and let me know 
if the nav menu on the left is positioned just below the Advanced Search 
link as it should be instead of halfway down the page???

www.brionanet.com/firstavenue/sites/modstor  

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RE: SOT Javascript Navigation

2003-01-15 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Thanks for the answers and suggestions - I know these will resolve the issue.

It's going to be a  detect browser/change relative positioning thing for 
these issues - now I just need to think as to whether I want to make a 
dumbed down version for older browsers...

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Re: Version Control/Archiving Tool(s)

2003-01-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
highest level code control available:

1 seasoned veteran development engineer
1 clipboard with full version log form
2 #2 pencils sharpened
1 9 mm pistol, loaded and holstered

Of course, this may seem intimidating to your average programmer, however 
the reality is, a business needs to do what it needs to do!

Note on qualifications for the engineer position - must have had numerous 
projects where other engineers, programmers, project managers or CEO types 
swore they would check in before they touched anything, and guaranteed that 
they would always download the latest version before all their work for the 
day...





At 09:25 AM 1/14/03 -0800, you wrote:
I'm looking for good examples of a version control/archiving tool to set up
in our new Cold Fusion MX environment.  I'm wondering what others out there
maybe using?
Doing a google search I ran across this product: Code CO-OP
(http://www.microway.com.au/catalog/reliable/products.stm#Features).  I was
attracted to it due to it's feature indicating that it integrates with
Macromedia Cold Fusion (Studio?) and Homesite.  Does anybody know if this
includes Dreamweaver MX?  Has anybody used this product?
Thanks to anybody willing to give their two cents.
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA

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Re: Visual Fusion - Thoughts?

2003-01-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Visual Fusion sounds like something to learn more about, without a doubt - 
the potential is  huge for those of us who have skills in CF but not in 
other languages like VB - the question tho is how do you run this in a 
stand-alone capacity without needing the Server?

I am assuming there's extensive footwork that's been done to research if 
this is in violation of any aspect of Allaire's/Macromedia's licensing...

The potential is for this to be a next generation top-shelf solution









At 03:59 PM 1/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
Hello CF-Talk community:

 For the last year or so I've been working on an application called
Visual FusionĀ© (Patent pending). The application is basically a program
that takes ColdFusion coding to the next level and allows you to create
stand-alone applications written in ColdFusion (CFML) code. The application
works exactly like Visual Basic, but powered by CFML. The idea is to allow
ColdFusion developers the ability to distribute their existing ColdFusion
projects without the need of a web server / ColdFusion server. After the
application is created, you compile it and create an .EXE for it (with the
ability to create a setup, etc..). Therefore allowing us ColdFusion
developers to sell our applications to clients that cannot afford or don't
want to buy servers (ColdFusion server / Web Server) and to distribute our
applications much more securely without the chance of decrypting and loss
of our techniques. The other thing about this application is that it will
also be an alternative to application development as an alternative to
Visual Basic.

I wanted to see the reaction for such an application and to see what
everyone's thoughts and comments were on such an application.

Also, I while back I messaged asking people that know Java Programming who
would like to help build this application to speed up the development. If
anyone out there would like to help build this product and take part of
profits as payment, let me know. I sure can use the help! :)

I welcome all suggestions and comments...

Thanks,
Pablo Varando
http://www.easycfm.com



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User Group Team (Was ...programmer)

2003-01-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I am offering my project management services to this potential consulting 
group.

I've longed to return to more hands-off projects, less sales footwork 
(although I am highly skilled at working in tandem with an account 
manager), and less coding on my part.  I thrive doing full needs analysis 
work, developing spec documents, thorough proposals, storyboards, then 
brainstorming in meetings with a team...

Just this week again I needed to teach myself (finally!)  how to set up 
dynamic Javascript/ CSS multi-layered roll-over navigation menus.   Sure it 
was a great feeling to get to the other side but the process takes up so 
much time that my strong-points of business get set aside...

This would greatly reduce my lack of current solutions (I have not had the 
time or energy to learn MX at ALL yet, barely have a scratching of surface 
knowledge with XML and have ZERO knowledge of even much older yet still 
vital issues such as clustering, stored procedures...)

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CSV updater???

2003-01-14 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I've got a site where I am using a CSVtoDatabase custom tag to add new 
records, but it doesn't allow for an update feature  - are there any custom 
tags out there that do this (replace a record based on a specific field, or 
more ideally, only replace the  specific contents of a few fields in that 
record based on the fieldnames in the CSV?

For example, if the table has 20 fields, but the UPDATE.csv only has a 
PartNumber field (the relationship field), DiscPrice, and Sku then the 
process would loop through the csv and update those fields in those records...

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OT allowing ASP functions on a CF 5 Server HELP

2003-01-08 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
I am running CF 5 Enterprise on Win2K Pro, with IIS 5.0  and have a need to 
run an ASP process on one of my sites... ASP is listed in IIS for the 
domain but it won't run... what am I missing for turning on permissions for 
it?  

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Re: OT allowing ASP functions on a CF 5 Server HELP

2003-01-08 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
The error I get is:
The requested resource is in use.



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RE: Got an opinion on MM Contribute?

2003-01-06 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Contribute is being interpreted by some of my prospective clients as 
Macromedia's version of my company's proprietary web content management 
tools on their initial reading of the Contribute site marketing 
material.   They ask me why do we need to pay you when we can use 
Macromedia's tools?

There really is no similarity beyond marketing hype, however it's becoming 
a new issue we need to address in the sale cycle...  Bottom line though is 
our client sites can be maintained by clerical workers with no programming, 
computer or technical savvy, and with Contribute there's a HUGE potential 
for site failure due to the depth of the software... Contribute is NOT 
truly a painless effortless site content maintenance tool for anyone other 
than high end designers or IT people in corporations.   (Our clients are 
the small and mid-size business without an IT or design staff).

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RE: newbie school of hard knocks (More ignorant questions)

2003-01-03 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Try this

 cfquery name=DupCheck datasource=#myDSN#
   SELECT firstname, lastname, emailaddress
   FROM 'addressbook'
   WHERE firstname = '#Form.firstname#'
 AND lastname='#Form.lastname#'
 AND emailaddress='#Form.emailaddress#'
 /cfquery




At 12:10 PM 1/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
In regards to my question about duplicate entries and for your enjoyment
I present the following.

I was looking at the tutorial on easycfm.com (easy for them to say)

cfquery name=DupCheck datasource=myDSN
 SELECT email
 FROM tutorials
 WHERE email = '#Form.email#'
/cfquery

But of course I want to check multiple fields.

I wish to check firstname, lastname, emailaddress for duplicates.
The tutorial states you can of course check multiple form values being
passed to your database. However I am so new to this I cannot envision
what the syntax might be.

I started writing and got to this point.

 cfquery name=DupCheck datasource=#myDSN#
   SELECT firstname, lastname, emailaddress
   FROM 'addressbook'
   WHERE firstname, lastname, emailaddress = '#Form.firstname#'
 /cfquery

Am I getting close?  I know that I want to do something different in the
last line of my SQL statement but I am not sure what.  I need something
more on the right side of the equals sign and I may also be way off base
on the left side as well.  In fact, I may be totally wrong about all of
this.  Now stop laughing I really am this confused.

Could you point out what I need here?



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: newbie school of hard knocks

G'day Mike,

Try this tutorial: http://tutorial45.easycfm.com/

It'll give you the skills you're looking for I think.

There are lots of others on that site you ought to look at too.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





-Original Message-
From: Mike Miessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 2:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: newbie school of hard knocks

I have successfully created a form to update (append) to the database.
Now that I have accomplished this fantastic feat of skill I find that I
have several duplicate entries that resulted from my testing.  How can I
check for and avoid duplicate entries.  Since I am new to both CF and
SQL I don't know which component to refer to for this task.

I know you guys will point me in the right direction.

Thanks.





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Happy New Year

2002-12-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
Just a note to everyone on the list to wish you all a truly happy, 
intensely prosperous and amazingly enjoyable New Year


Thank you all for being so open, and for sharing your knowledge with all of 
us on the list - I know that my ability to stay in this inudstry has been 
truly enhanced by the CF Community!

MICHAEL  JUDITH ESPECIALLY - God Bless you both for your endless 
dedication and the work you do!

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RE: Happy New Year

2002-12-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
May your code run correctly the first time your write it all year!

Rick

Talk about having a miraculous year!!!  

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