Dreaded cfform.js Error

2005-04-03 Thread Russ Unger
I've been coding along nicely today, and then suddenly, on my test server, I 
notice that I'm getting a missing page error when I submit a form.

I checked all of my includes.  They appear to be intact.  I push to my prod 
server to check against everything, and the same thing happens, but my logs 
report this:

[Sun Apr  3 19:23:26 2005] [error] [client ip address] File does not exist: 
/home/website/public_html/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js

Now, I'll always admit to being more of a hack with CF than an actual 
developer, and if it weren't for forums just like this, I'd probably not have 
completed more than a couple of my projects.  I'm lost.  I'm just not sure 
what's going on here and I've a feeling I've just made a syntax snafu that's 
causing this to be a bit ugly But then again, I could be wrong, as I've 
just noticed it's happening on a couple of other CFMX sites on my server.

I've tried moving a /CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js location on the server, but I 
still get the same error--I thought that, based on some research, that might 
actually help or totally fix the problem.

Can anyone offer any insight/guidance here? I'm really struggling with this.

Thanks,

Russ 

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RE: Dreaded cfform.js Error

2005-04-03 Thread Russ Unger
 so what happens if you browse to http://servers 
 IP/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js 

Browser tries to download the file.


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RE: Dreaded cfform.js Error

2005-04-03 Thread Russ Unger
 code?

It's a couple hundred lines; I was hoping that the behavior might
trigger something.  It's a bit involved and I'd be happy to share, but I
don't want to bog down the list with my sloppy coding.

Russ


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RE: Login / Password / Roles script

2005-03-20 Thread Russ Unger
Thanks.

I've used it before and have found it to be sometimes flaky.  If it was
the best solution, there wouldn't be so many others out there, and I'd
prefer to find something that's already put together and rather easy to
drop in.

CFLOGIN framework allows for that, too, but I don't find it to be easy
nor reliable.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:50 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Login / Password / Roles script
 
 
 The CFLOGIN framework allows for all of this. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 8:17 
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Login / Password / Roles script
 
 All,
 
 I'm searching for something that's fairly simple as far a
 login/password/roles management script.
 
 Perhaps I'm being a bit contradictory in that statement, but 
 what I'm really
 looking for will allow me to manage:
 
 A) Login  Password against the database
 B) Sessions; if you're not logged in or it times out, only 
 see the login
 screen
 C) Roles-based views.  I've got only 2 types of roles right 
 now, and that's
 Editors and Authors and I don't see it changing much at all.  
 So, I figure I
 need to be able to add some code that basically says if this 
 role, you see
 this, otherwise you don't.
 
 I've got WebLoginPRO and I'm seeing more than a few problems 
 with the way
 they have it set-up and I'm more than a little disappointed 
 and tired of
 wrangling with it, so I'm seeking alternatives.
 
 Thanks in advance for any sharing of wisdom and advice.
 
 

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RE: Login / Password / Roles script

2005-03-20 Thread Russ Unger
  CFLOGIN framework allows for that, too, but I don't find it 
  to be easy nor reliable.
 
 What about it do you find not easy or reliable? There are 
 some known issues
 with it, but they may not affect you.

My success with it has simply been sketchy.  I'd prefer not to go down
the path of trouble-shooting that at the moment, but instead finding a
different solution that's quick and simple.  If everyone is set on
CFLOGIN, then it's more than possible that I've done something wrong in
the past, but that's simply not a route at the top of my list.


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Login / Password / Roles script

2005-03-20 Thread Russ Unger
All,

I'm searching for something that's fairly simple as far a login/password/roles 
management script.

Perhaps I'm being a bit contradictory in that statement, but what I'm really 
looking for will allow me to manage:

A) Login  Password against the database
B) Sessions; if you're not logged in or it times out, only see the login screen
C) Roles-based views.  I've got only 2 types of roles right now, and that's 
Editors and Authors and I don't see it changing much at all.  So, I figure I 
need to be able to add some code that basically says if this role, you see 
this, otherwise you don't.

I've got WebLoginPRO and I'm seeing more than a few problems with the way they 
have it set-up and I'm more than a little disappointed and tired of wrangling 
with it, so I'm seeking alternatives.

Thanks in advance for any sharing of wisdom and advice.

Russ

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RE: CF-Talk: Digest every hour

2005-02-25 Thread Russ Unger
And this is the one it should be sending to.

Sorry for the pollution.

 Thread: 
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=message
sthreadid=38624forumid=4#196481

Should be fixed now


 Hi,

 Today, I signed up for the hourly digest--I must say it's suiting my
 needs nicely.

 However, I noticed that I am receiving the hourly digest to this
 address, in addition to an address that no longer shows up in my
 settings, and WAS a previous email address for me, but has been
removed
 some time ago.

 Ummm...  Can this stop?

 Thanks!



 


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SOT: Exim mail relay issu

2005-02-22 Thread Russ Unger
All...

I've got exim set up on a box running Fedora, and for some reason, it
isn't relaying mail from localhost to recipients not on the same
server--when running ColdFusion pages that are pushing out emails (just
so you know that CFMX is running as well) or any other time.  

If while on the server I do a telnet localhost 25 and send mail, it
works, but if I do a telnet [hostname] 25 and do it, it fails, even
though it should be recognized as a local host.

Seems as if this should be rather simple, but I'm spinning my wheels all
over the place.  Anyone experience this before?

Thanks,

Russ


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RE: Any sites using the new Flash forms?

2005-02-15 Thread Russ Unger
Wow.  I'm shocked at you guys and the very clear myopic views here.

Again, this is still a door opener.  First to market and all of that.
No, major manufacturers are not ALL signed-on yet for Flash in the cell
marketspace, but it is happening.  3G world isn't going to be a small
thing this year, people want the Flash player and what it has to offer,
so maybe, just maybe IN THE FUTURE... Like I said:

Maybe it doesn't work for you now, but tomorrow, or 2.5 years from now
or whenever, someone's already there working in that space with
something that's perhaps SVG and scalable to many different
formats--let's say, for example, to cell phones, if more and more
manufacturers start to place it on their devices and more and more
carriers start demanding it on the phones they purchase...

Dang.  Try and talk about what an opportunity this could be for tomorrow
and everyone gets stuck on today.  At day zero, you know, no one had
FutureSplash nor ColdFusion nor HomeSite nor Dreamweaver nor PhotoShop
and nor Windows nor Linux... gasp.


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RE: Any sites using the new Flash forms?

2005-02-15 Thread Russ Unger
On a quick re-read, I realize what a whiny little... I sound like.
Didn't mean to come across that way.  Didn't mean to be accusatory of
everyone, either.  My bad.

Just saying.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash forms?
 
 
 Wow.  I'm shocked at you guys and the very clear myopic views here.
 
 Again, this is still a door opener.  First to market and all of that.
 No, major manufacturers are not ALL signed-on yet for Flash 
 in the cell
 marketspace, but it is happening.  3G world isn't going to be a small
 thing this year, people want the Flash player and what it has 
 to offer,
 so maybe, just maybe IN THE FUTURE... Like I said:


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Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?

2005-02-15 Thread Russ Unger
Hi...

I'm migrating all of my sites, and my CFMX, to a new server.  Obviously,
I don't want to suffer much downtime, so it seems as if I *should* be
running CF on both servers for an overlap timeframe of around 48-72
hours, if I'm lucky.  Not only that, but I'd like to be able to actually
have some additional time to do any tweaking, match settings, etc.
without issue.  Of course, typing it makes me think that maybe I should
upgrade now, too, but what the heck, one issue at a time.

Am I silly for even asking the question, or should this type of transfer
work out okay?  Anything I need to be aware of?

Thanks in advance; I'm feeling a little twitchy about it all and any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Russ


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RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?

2005-02-15 Thread Russ Unger
Hi Al,

Thanks for the info--we're not so concerned with the data at this point
in time; we can render the other sites as temp down since we control
most of them.  The bigger issue is really what happens with CF when we
do this.

Anyone?

--R




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RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?

2005-02-15 Thread Russ Unger
Heh, no, not really, hence the concern.  And by not really I mean
no.  That is where the concern lies--I just wanted to be certain on
what's the right way to work this.  I'm not looking to do anything
wrong, per se, just trying to understand best plan of attack to manage
this the best possible way.

R

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?
 
 
 Do you have enough licences to cover both being up at one time? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 1:00 
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?
 
 Hi Al,
 
 Thanks for the info--we're not so concerned with the data at 
 this point in
 time; we can render the other sites as temp down since we 
 control most of
 them.  The bigger issue is really what happens with CF when 
 we do this.
 
 Anyone?
 
 

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash forms?

2005-02-14 Thread Russ Unger
You know, I really think a lot of folks are missing the idea behind the
Flash forms.  While they may not currently be ideal for what any of us
are looking for, they are the ground-breaking shovel in the ground to
lead to a lot of different things--I mean, let's face it, where's the
..fla for those forms?  Did someone learn Flash to do it?

Maybe it doesn't work for you now, but tomorrow, or 2.5 years from now
or whenever, someone's already there working in that space with
something that's perhaps SVG and scalable to many different
formats--let's say, for example, to cell phones, if more and more
manufacturers start to place it on their devices and more and more
carriers start demanding it on the phones they purchase...

The potential is there.  That's the big thing.  Would I use it today?
Probably not.  But it's nice to know that it's got a great chance of
being a reality around the corner as bandwidth becomes less and less of
a restriction, that's for certain.

Just my $.02.

Russ


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RE: U.S.-based SMS/SMPP API

2005-02-10 Thread Russ Unger
Actually--

As far as I know, almost every single carrier in the US (and the only
ones that may not offer it would be very, very minor carriers with an
inconsequential user base) offers SMS.

Frankly put, the SMS business is a cash cow for the carriers in air
time, etc.

Russ

 I don't know whether this helps or not, but as far as I know the 
 carriers that offer SMS to their customers in the US are T-Mobile and 
 Cingular/ATT.


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RE: consultant wanted

2005-02-10 Thread Russ Unger
Rick,

Since you mention MySQL, it makes me wonder what version of PHP you're
running (if you're running it--assumption is for the use of phpmyadmin);
I had to downgrade (definitely don't try to run PHP 5.0!) due to
similarly odd behavior.

This also happened when I upgraded to Server 2003.  Once I backed-up to
a stable 4.xx release of PHP, all became well again, but I'm not
entirely sure if this is even close to helping you.

Russ

 I don't know what happened to your machine, Steve, but all
 of a sudden I can't view any of my sites using http://localhost,
 nor can I view them with a URL directly to my sites folders using
 my static IP on other PC's.  I'm getting Permission Denied, also.
 
 I've been tinkering with MYSQL settings and permissions in response
 to recent warnings about attacks on servers running on the 
 root account,
 which mine have been, but I don't see what that has to do with the
 situation.



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RE: Writing RSS

2005-02-09 Thread Russ Unger
Kevin,

Sent you a bunch of code under separate cover.  Hope it helps!

Russ

 Does anyone out there have a tag or CF code for witing an RSS feed?
 
 There seems to be lots of people offering tags to read them 
 but none that
 write them.


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RE: More on FCKEditor... Not good

2005-02-08 Thread Russ Unger
Rick--

Just curious if you had tried this as of yet and seen anything
different?  Sorry if I missed your reply.

Thanks,

Russ
 I'd be happy to test this for you on my server, but I'm 
 confused as to 
 what you're doing.
 
 So you're saying that FCKeditor is in a directory NOT protected by 
 ..htaccess, and you're calling it into a page that IS 
 protected by .htaccess?
 
 Right now I've got a site that is fully protected by .htaccess and it 
 all works fine, with the editor on a page in the main directory.


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More on FCKEditor... Not good

2005-02-06 Thread Russ Unger
I'm running CFMX on RH; I've got my fckEditor all set up and working
nicely (it's in a folder in a the public site, but also called through
CFMapping)--from the public site, from an add comments perspective. In
fact, I couldn't be much happier with how that works, but since the site
I'm working on also has a protected area where the authors and editors
sign-in to add their content...
 
When I'm logged into a /priv directory (currently using .htaccess) where
I want to enter in copy for my site, the various buttons appear with
irregularity, a lot of times I get forbidden errors, and I've even
seen using the tool and submitting content result in my site returning,
temporarily, to a Fedora Core page before slowly coming back to life. 
 
Uh. Yeah. This is bad. 
 
Anyone? At this point, I can't see that it's feasible to remain using
this tool, and if the accessibility is such a problem, I'm not sure how
anyone could use it within a homegrown CMS at all.  I mean, maybe I'm a
little nuts here, but it seems as if using this particular tool is
causing my entire server to bork.

Thanks,

Russ


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RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-05 Thread Russ Unger
It should be noted that Martin's actually talking about getting strong
enough with CSS to understand when you'll need certain workarounds, what
styles will work when and port across to other browsers, etc.  He's also
bringing up understanding of Standards (ref:
http://print.google.com/print?id=RBtltKDulrcCprev=http://print.google.c
om/print%3Fq%3Djeffrey%2Bzeldmanpg=1sig=yKmjRKvg-LB3bsO5Yg4DBoEP4Ow
Designing with Web Standards by Jeffrey Zeldman), and I think the
approach is a little pie in the sky.

Ultimately, he's mostly correct, but to be fair, not entirely and I
don't want to turn this into an argument/back and forth discussion--but
everthing that you need to do will have a lot of factors, such as
complexity, skill sets of other developers, etc.  While XHTML  CSS
standards (per Zeldman, at least) are an absolutely phenominal notion, I
do not believe that their usage is entirely something logical in the
marketplace as of yet--but that doesn't mean we shouldn't all strive to
understand better, it just means that the likelyhood of finding yourself
in a project that works that way would be rather.. Diminished.

And yes, the argument is there for cost savings, etc. but the first time
you find yourself spending 2 days trying to make something work across
browsers using only XHTML and CSS when you could have performed the same
task with a table in 2 minutes...  Well, let's just say that the cost
benefit starts to also... Diminish.

It's a noble effort and a great, great idea and it's great to have
people driving for it, but until these types of standards become
mainstream and we're all learning them as fundamentals, getting there
will be slow going.

But please, take my comments with a grain of salt.  I've found that
there are many things you can do by knowing standards better to improve
development--even if you don't use them 100%.  At the same time, take
anyone else's comment with a grain of salt that promise you all of
this--but wait, there's more! If you call in now, you'll also get this
great knife that can cut through aluminum cans--and more.  Simply put,
it's just not all the way there, but getting another person on board
always helps.

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
 
 
 Using CSS for site layout is one sure fire way of making sure 
 your sites
 look consistent across most browsers.. If you use DreamWeaver 
 and have a
 bit of time to get your head around CSS layouts then create a new page
 using the CSS template and see how it hangs together - basically all
 done with DIV's. I dipped my toe in the water the other day, 
 created my
 first CSS only site and was stunned when trying it in each 
 browser that
 it looked IDENTICAL !!
 
 Another by product of doing things this way was that when I tested the
 site using the W3C CSS and html validator it got a perfect score.
 Superb!
 
 As far as any JavaScript stuff goes, I agree with 
 ColdFusionDeveloper
 (the man with no name) - Try it in a non-ie browser first 
 then fiddle to
 get it working in that later. I love using document.all (saves using
 getElementByID) but it just ain't available in other mainline 
 browsers.
 
 Search engines and accessibility tools such as screen readers for
 partially sighted users benefit from using CSS too as there's 
 no masses
 of nested tables to confuse the issue.
 
 Martin Parry
 Macromedia Certified Developer
 http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
 
 I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only 
 browser we
 had
 to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent
 IE's
 oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm
 wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm
 thinking
 about relatively small shops that don't have enormous 
 resources devoted
 solely to QA.
 
 Specifically...
 
 - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on 
 the browser
 and
 version? How many?
 
 - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that
 actually
 help your pages be more universally compatible?
 
 - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js
 capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions?
 
 - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE 
 installed
 on
 the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have
 separate
 machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, 
 and 6, maybe
 even 3? How else can you test?
 
 - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?
 
 - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of
 browsers and versions that you need to support?
 
 Dave Merrill
 
 

RE: Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative?

2005-02-05 Thread Russ Unger
 I haven't used the cf_highlight tag so I don't know how much 
 different or
 similar this may be but I've used this one quite a bit and it 
 works great.
 It is a modified version of a function originally written by 
 Ray Camden.
 
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=133

Beautiful!  Thanks--that replaced what I already had that was...  Not as
good.

Now, if I can just figure out an alternative search solution--you know,
like the Idiot's Guide To Building Your Own Search Engine On Your
Site, order may be partially restored to the universe.  My universe,
anyway.

Thanks again!


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Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative?

2005-02-04 Thread Russ Unger
All,

I've got a couple of quick-hit bugs (hopefully) that are driving me
batty.

For starters, I work locally off of  Win2k3 Server running mysql at home
as a dev/test environment and then I have a production box running Linux
 mysql.  I'm pretty-well tested when it comes to being on current,
stable versions, etc. etc.  That said, upon pushing a site to
production...

I have a custom tag that is cf_highlight for highlighting text.  When I
run a search and append the highlight=#searchterm# it MASSIVELY breaks
the page on the site, where locally there is no issue and it works great
(with the exception of actually figuring out how to apply a true
highlight (background color)).

I'm running Verity, and frankly, I find it a little confusing and more
difficult than it seems to need to be.  It seems as if it's going to be
quite the undertaking to actually figure out how to search by specific
parameters--basically, I'm wondering if anyone can make any
recommendations as to an alternative search solution; this isn't a
make-it or break-it feature on my site, and truthfully it's more there
for my own experience and as a nice to have, but I don't want to
resort to plugging in someone else's branded search box or whatever.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Russ


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CFSCHEDULE RSS into DB

2005-01-30 Thread Russ Unger
Great title, I know. Thanks... I'll be here all week...

That said, I've managed to grab a bunch of RSS feeds that I'd like to
use as content on my site and I want to utilize CFSCHEDULE (and I'm a
novice with this) to actually run the page and insert the data into the
database so that I don't have to rely upon an external source for my
pages to load.

I've been told that yes, this is being done before, but I truly need
some help getting the content into my database.  A tutorial or brief
guidance would be very welcome!

Thanks in advance!

Russ


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RE: CFSCHEDULE RSS into DB

2005-01-30 Thread Russ Unger
Ahh...

Scrap this one.  Funny thing about sending something to a list--seem to
find answers on my own quicker that way.

Sorry for the noise.


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RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor

2005-01-28 Thread Russ Unger
Okay, so no one wants my $20--that's cool.  

Actually, it's not bad for me since I've figured a bunch of stuff out,
but it appears as if the fckconfig.js file is getting cached and changes
that I've made to the toolbars don't take very quickly.  Maybe this is
something easy enough to fix that I'm unaware of due to a lack of
exposure to the server set-up side of things--can anyone over advice on
that?

After that, the only real issue that I have left is trying to figure out
how to set up image uploading through FCK and CFMX.

And maybe trying to figure out why pages with the text area seem to not
be able to utilze the browser's BACK button very well.

Anyone?  Hey, I'll still offer up the $20 or a nice import 12er if
you're in Chicago!

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:15 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor
 
 
 So, anyone want to make a quick $20 and help me finish setting up my
 FCK?  I seem to be hitting some brickwalls that shouldn't be 
 that major.
 
 Email off-list if you can do this via AIM and I'm your new friend with
 Paypal.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:58 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor
  
  
   umm . yeah
   
jk, lol, i do too
so much easier to use then fck
  
  You know, not an entirely untrue statement.
  
  Sure, I've just begun diving into fck, but there's A LOT left to be
  desired for documentation and how to set up things like 
 custom menus,
  how to turn on uploading of images, etc.
  
  That's really what stings about this--because it really doesn't look
  like it's all that difficult, but there's a learning curve to 
  get warmed
  up to it without any appropriate help/docs or even 
 real-world examples
  with it.
  
  Bah.
  
  
  
 
 

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RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor

2005-01-28 Thread Russ Unger
 Our rate is more or less 120 per hour ... :) 

Oh.  I see.


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FCKeditor and/or Javascript caching?

2005-01-28 Thread Russ Unger
I hope I'm not kicking a dead horse, but since I'm not as strong on the
server side of things as I'd like to be, I'm unsure how to adjust a
setting--if that's what I need to do.

Basically, after tracking down and installing FCKeditor (and thanks for
all the input from everyone!), I've got most of the core functions
working, have customized my toolbars--still haven't quite gotten the
image uploading figured out so if someone wants to earn some beers,
please, get ahold of me off-list; I can't imagine figuring this out
would take much more than 15 minutes with the help of someone who's
mastered it already!--but I'm still not sure why:

When I make modifications to the fckconfig.js page, it takes a couple of
hours or more for the changes to take place on the web pages.

Do I have something set to cache in my CFMX server or my Win2003 Server
that I'm unaware of that would cause this?  It's no small annoyance, I
can assure you.

Thanks!

Russ


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RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor

2005-01-27 Thread Russ Unger
 umm . yeah
 
  jk, lol, i do too
  so much easier to use then fck

You know, not an entirely untrue statement.

Sure, I've just begun diving into fck, but there's A LOT left to be
desired for documentation and how to set up things like custom menus,
how to turn on uploading of images, etc.

That's really what stings about this--because it really doesn't look
like it's all that difficult, but there's a learning curve to get warmed
up to it without any appropriate help/docs or even real-world examples
with it.

Bah.


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RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor

2005-01-27 Thread Russ Unger
So, anyone want to make a quick $20 and help me finish setting up my
FCK?  I seem to be hitting some brickwalls that shouldn't be that major.

Email off-list if you can do this via AIM and I'm your new friend with
Paypal.

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:58 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: WYSIWYG Rich Text Area Editor
 
 
  umm . yeah
  
   jk, lol, i do too
   so much easier to use then fck
 
 You know, not an entirely untrue statement.
 
 Sure, I've just begun diving into fck, but there's A LOT left to be
 desired for documentation and how to set up things like custom menus,
 how to turn on uploading of images, etc.
 
 That's really what stings about this--because it really doesn't look
 like it's all that difficult, but there's a learning curve to 
 get warmed
 up to it without any appropriate help/docs or even real-world examples
 with it.
 
 Bah.
 
 
 

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