Re: macromedia certification

2006-04-27 Thread Spike
Unfortunately it is true of certifications in general and I think that
reflects more on the certification exams than anything else.

I used to work full time as a trainer giving courses covering Novell,
Microsoft, Macromedia, Allaire and Lotus Notes products. A lot of the
courses were designed with a certification in mind and as a trainer I
spent a good deal of time answering questions on what was likely to
come up on the exam.

The one major exception to this was the CISCO certification. I can't
speak from personal experience, because I never took the exams, but
one of my colleagues went through the process to get the CCIE
certification and by all accounts it was impossible to pass without
really knowing *and* understanding just about everthing related to the
topic matter.

The exam itself was a 4 hour lab where you had to troubleshoot a set
of CISCO hardware that had been carefully misconfigured by the
examiner.

Now that's the sort of certification that I would trust if someone was
to offer an equivalent for developers.

my 2 cents

Spike

On 4/27/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I wonder, do any employers actually give any consideration to
  people with one of these certifications? As they really arn't
  worth the paper they are printed on these days.

 This probably hasn't changed any since the last time it was covered on the
 list, you know.

 As Charlie pointed out, this is largely true of certifications in general. I
 doubt that many employers care about it too much, but if there were two
 otherwise equally qualified applicants, I'd probably pick the one with the
 certification over the other.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: OT: Freelance Designers

2006-03-14 Thread Spike
I use a guy I used to work with in Australia called Tony Petersen.
I've never been disappointed with his work and he charges in Austrlian
dollars which makes it pretty good value when you factor in the
exchange rate.

http://www.t2creative.net/indexflash.htm

Spike

On 3/14/06, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone know some EXCELLENT freelance graphic designers/illustrators they
 could refer me to?



 Thank you,

 Baz



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Re: Q about CFEclipse

2006-03-10 Thread Spike
Have you tried webDrive?

http://www.webdrive.com/products/webdrive/index.html

Haven't used it, but in principle it ought to work with CFEclipse.

Spike

On 3/10/06, Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its kind of hard to edit files when Eclipse keeps telling you they are 'Read
 Only' ;-)

 On 3/10/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Scott Stroz wrote:
   The FTP functionality in Eclipse is not very good though.
 
  Neither is Homesite's FTP functionality, but I still use it ;)
 
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Re: cfm captchas

2006-03-07 Thread Spike
Send me a nice friendly please, please, please email and I might get
round to implementing the idea I've had in my head for the last year
or so ;-)

I think it would take about 30 people asking for it to get enough
motivation for lift-off.

Spike

On 3/7/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what are our options for cfm captchas besides alagad

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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Spike
If you find that the design view part of DreamWeaver is important to
you, it is probably best to stick with that rather than CFEclipse. One
of the goals of CFEclipse is to be a code centric tool, which means
that we have pretty much no intention of adding design view support.

Spike

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
 at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
 edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
 offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

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 Information Systems Specialist
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Re: java equivalent of cffile

2005-10-28 Thread Spike
Yeah,

That will create a file, rename it and delete it.

File read and write operations are somewhat more involved.

You'll definitely be better off wrapping up the file operations in a
cffunction block, but if you really do want to find out some more about it,
here's some java code to read the contents of a file:

public String readFile(File input) {
BufferedReader in = null;
try {

StringBuffer buffer = new StringBuffer();

in = new BufferedReader(new FileReader(input));
String str;
while ((str = in.readLine()) != null) {
buffer.append(str + System.getProperty(line.separator));
}
in.close();

return buffer.toString();
} catch (FileNotFoundException e) {
System.out.println(Error! The file  + input +  could not be found.);
} catch (IOException e) {
System.out.println(Error! An IO Exception occurred.);
System.out.println(e.getMessage());
} finally {
try {
in.close();
} catch (IOException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
} catch (NullPointerException e) {
// something wasn't initialized, just ignore this error
}
}
return null;
}

Converting that lot to CF should keep you busy for a while ;-)

Spike

On 10/28/05, Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to check out the java way, you can browse through
 java.IO.*, which has a lot of IO general classes including working
 with the file system, and when in doubt, google it. Generally
 speaking, you do something sort of like this:

 myFile = createObject(java,java.IO.File).init(c:\myfile.txt);
 myFile.createNewFile();
 myFile.renameTo(createObject(java,java.IO.File
 ).init(c:\myfile2.txt));
 myFile.delete();

 that's totally untested code, btw.

 Here's the javadoc link:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/io/File.html

 -nathan strutz
 http://www.dopefly.com/

 On 10/28/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had the same thought, but was curious to learn a little more about how
  Java works. But I did find the wrapper functions already written on
  cflib.org http://cflib.org so maybe I'll just do that...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Simeon Bateman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:39 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: java equivalent of cffile
 
  The stupid simple answer I came up with in seeing your questions, was
 why
  not just write a couple cffunctions to wrap cffile so you can access it
 from
  script?
 
  I am probably missing something, but thats where I would look first.
 
  simeon
 
 
  On 10/28/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I know this has been covered but I don't know what phrase to search
 for
   exactly so here we are.
  
  
  
   How can I do CFFILE-like actions (create, overwrite, delete) within
   cfscript? I'm sure I can use the built-in Java functionality but I
 don't
   know what that is.
  
  
  
   TIA
  
  
  
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Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
I have also had some very bad experiences with VSS.

Two specific problems that I've had:

A developer checked out some code and didn't check it back in before going
on holiday. This caused us a lot of headaches because we didn't have the
password for his machine and he'd checked out stuff that a lot of other
people needed to work with.

VSS completely corrupted the source code for a project I was working on a
few years ago. Again, this caused us a lot of headaches because we had lost
the complete change history for the project.

The VSS workflow doesn't work well for me either because it requires that
you organize yourselves in such a way that two people never have the same
code checked out. My experience has been that allowing multiple developers
to check out and work on the same code is much more productive.

Spike

On 10/27/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What does SVN give you that VSS does not?

 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch02s02.html

 VSS use Lock-Modify-Unlock, SVN can use both Copy-Modify-Merge and
 Lock-Modify-Unlock. I very much prefer the Copy-Modify-Merge approach, but
 it's a matter of personal preferences.

 Multiple languages binding and WEBDAV integration could also be a plus.


 Personally I also had some very bad experiences with VSS corrupting data,
 but this doesn't necessarely apply to others.

 
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Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
ok, I appreciate that you *can* solve the problem if a user isn't there, but
here's an example of my typical experience with VSS:

Bob, Fred and Joe are all working on the same project and sit within 6 feet
of each other.

Day starts
Bob checks out files a, b, c, d, and e.
Fred checks out files f,g and h.
Joe checks out fils i, j, k, and l

10.00 am Joe gets called off to a meeting
10.15 am Bob realizes he needs to check out file j. Finds it's locked, so
goes off to look for an administrator.
10.20 am Fred realizes he needs to add something to file e. Finds it's
locked, so goes off to look for Bob.
10.30 am Bob returns having found that the administrator has been called off
to do some work for a client. Starts creating a workaround for the things he
needs in file j.
10.35 am Fred returns and gets Bob to release file e.
11.00 am Fred leaves to go to a client site forgetting to check in his work.
11.15 am Joe returns and gets a bunch of abuse from Bob. Joe releases his
files so Bob can get the update.
11.30 am Joe realizes he needs to use file g. Finds out that it's locked and
Fred isn't there. Finds out Admin isn't around, can't get Freds on his
mobile. Starts to create a workaround for the stuff in file g.
11.45 am Bob realizes he needs something in file g. Talks to Joe. They work
together to create a new version of g which they call file m. They refactor
their code so that it no longer requires file g.
12.00 pm Bob goes off to lunch.
12.15 pm Joe realizes he needs to work on file d. Sees that Bob is at lunch
and decides to go to lunch himself.
1.00 pm Bob returns from lunch and gets called off to a meeting.
1.30 pm Joe returns from lunch and finds that he still can't get to file d.

I spent quite a while working in a place where that sort of thing was all
too typical.

It's certainly possible to discipline yourself so that these problems don't
occur, but real life and commercial pressures often get in the way of rigid
discipline.

The CVS/SVN way of doing things eliminates that sort of problem.

Spike


On 10/27/05, Andy McShane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have used VSS virtually from day one and have never yet had any problems
 with it, not a single corruption. I can confirm that what Neil states
 below
 is correct in so far as if you have access to the admin login you can
 easily
 checkin/checkout files checked out by another user and have multiple
 checkouts.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 October 2005 12:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Source Control Theory.

 Well, logging in as Admin would have solved the first problem of checking
 in
 a file checked out by another user (all depends on client/server setup I
 suppose) - but you can certainly check an on vacation users file yourself.

 VSS,does support multiple checkouts - so I am not sure where your problem
 their was?

 Corrupt code, I have never had but I hear it can happen with certain file
 types.

 Hopefully VSS 7 will sort that out ;-)





 -Original Message-
 From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 October 2005 11:58
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Source Control Theory.

 I have also had some very bad experiences with VSS.

 Two specific problems that I've had:

 A developer checked out some code and didn't check it back in before going
 on holiday. This caused us a lot of headaches because we didn't have the
 password for his machine and he'd checked out stuff that a lot of other
 people needed to work with.

 VSS completely corrupted the source code for a project I was working on a
 few years ago. Again, this caused us a lot of headaches because we had
 lost
 the complete change history for the project.

 The VSS workflow doesn't work well for me either because it requires that
 you organize yourselves in such a way that two people never have the same
 code checked out. My experience has been that allowing multiple developers
 to check out and work on the same code is much more productive.

 Spike

 On 10/27/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   What does SVN give you that VSS does not?
 
  http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch02s02.html
 
  VSS use Lock-Modify-Unlock, SVN can use both Copy-Modify-Merge and
  Lock-Modify-Unlock. I very much prefer the Copy-Modify-Merge approach,
 but
  it's a matter of personal preferences.
 
  Multiple languages binding and WEBDAV integration could also be a plus.
 
 
  Personally I also had some very bad experiences with VSS corrupting
 data,
  but this doesn't necessarely apply to others.
 
  
  Massimo Foti
  Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers:
  http://www.massimocorner.com
  
 
 
 
 
 
 





 

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Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
One of the main reasons I use Eclipse and started on the CFEclipse project
is that Eclipse is bar none the best CVS client I've ever seen.

In my experience, no matter how I shuffle things around, rename files,
delete directories, whatever, it seems to seamlessly keep track of every
single change and commit it to the repository. That's for changes I make
from within Eclipse itself mind you, if I go off to the file system and
start messing with files then I'm back into the usual CVS rename/move/delete
fun and games.

TortoiseCVS used to be the first thing I installed on every machine I used,
but I don't even have it on any of my machines these days.

Spike

On 10/27/05, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 we recently chose BUTT over ASS for our SCM solution. BUTT, or Brave
 User Text Tracker, worked fine and had the same cardinality on the set
 of issues experienced as ASS, or Applied Source Solutions. Both tools
 possessed a rather large outflow of community support, unfortunately
 ASS had that proprietary smell about it, possibly locking us into the
 large corporate throne above the abyss. The new kid on the block
 REAR, or Real Edit And Replace, seems quite promising addressing some
 of the blockage BUTT has with a few items. Other products do exist,
 but they add a whole new Dimension to the subject at hand.

 sorry, I couldn't resist...lack of sleep and coding like a monkey
 brings out the twisted creative, eh? I recently forced CVS onto the
 members of my team. So far its been fun. TortoiseCVS makes it fairly
 simple. The only real difficulty is branching and merging of
 branches, a tricky thing for sure. We went with CVS/tortoise because
 it was free, well known with a great public support, and our team is
 small. Our company has officially chosen Dimensions, a huge product
 that is not for the faint of heart.

 DK


 On 10/27/05, jonese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  for us it was even a very simple reason.
 
  We lost one developer, hired 2 devlopers and only had vss on one of the
  machines. Couldn't get VSS to install on the newest developers machine
 so we
  had to change process.
 
  We had been talking about making the move for months, this was just the
  straw which broke the camels back.
 
  jonese
 
  On 10/27/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:11, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
In what way? As in it is not Windows only? That is hardly a powerful
reason... (as I assume they are on Windows now.)
  
   For me it is a very powerful reason.
   I shouldn't have my choice of platform and tool set dictated to by the
   vendor
   of any one tool (or platform).
  
   --
  
   Tom Chiverton
   Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: cf code doesn't work inside the custom tag's calling tag?

2005-10-26 Thread Spike
cfimport prefix=my taglib=/my/custom/tags/library//
cfif structKeyExists(attributes, view)
my:tag view=#attributes.view#/
cfelse
my:tag /
/cfif


On 10/26/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 If you call custom tag using cfimport, you don't seem to be able to use cf
 code inside the calling tag. For example:

 cfimport prefix=my taglib=/my/custom/tags/library//
 my:tag cfif structKeyExists(attributes,
 view)view=#attributes.view/cfif/

 This will throw an error because the custom tag doesn't recognize cfif as
 a valid attribute name. Does anyone has a work-around that?

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Re: Credit card verification

2005-10-24 Thread Spike
Most decent modern payment gateways will allow you to do this.

Do you have any particular requirements for what type of payment gateway you
need to use?

Spike

On 10/24/05, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to verify that a credit card exists and is assigned to a
 person short of charging them? In the past we had to set a refundable dollar
 to do this but I'm hoping that there is a new solution, maybe using paypal.
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Re: CFEclipse and JS...

2005-10-24 Thread Spike
Eclipse plugins normally don't have a clue how to deal with a file that
isn't part of a project. There isn't an interface or API that they can
implement either to let you know that they can deal with non-project files.

In order to protect users from having to deal with whatever unpredictable
behaviour any given plugin may exhibit, all files open in the CFEclipse
editor.

Feel free to submit an enhancement request if you would like it to work
differently.

Spike

On 10/24/05, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you have to right click and do open with since eclipse (not
 cfeclipse) remembers what editor you opened the file up with last.

 So try that first... its the normal behaviour of Eclipse

 Hope that helps

 Mark



 On 24/10/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/24/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   For all of you using CFE, I have a question. What do you use as a
 plugin
   for editing JS? I installed the JSEclipse plugin and it works nicely,
   but it won't work when I open a JS file from the File Explorer view.
 Has
   anyone else noticed and been annoyed by that? Is there a way to fix
 it?
 
  By File Explorer view I assume you mean the view specific to
  CFEclipse? Very likely it only knows how to open files in the CF
  editor. Go log a bug:
 
  http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/
 
  (you need to register with Tigris to submit bugs but it's free)
  --
  Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
  Got frameworks?
 
  If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
  -- Margaret Atwood
 
 

 

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Re: CFeclipse question

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
Actually... That's not quite correct.

You can very easily have 2 files side by side.

Just open them up and click and drag the one of the file tabs to the right
until it shows a split window outline.

You can also right-click on a tab and choose New Editor which will allow
you to have the same file twice.

The problem comes when you have two editors open on the same file. The code
doesn't currently keep both editors up to date. As long as you know that,
it's quite handy sometimes.

Spike

On 10/21/05, Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is it possible to have a split screen in cfeclipse and
  display to different files in each view? If yes how? I looked
  around but could not find anything Thanks Victor

 Nope. That missing feature along with word wrap are the two sought after
 features that have yet to make it into CFEclipse.

 Mike




 

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Re: CFeclipse question

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
Forgot to say, you can also drag the tab down if you prefer the files to be
above one another.

In fact, you can have as many editors open as you have room for on your
screen. You're not just limited to 2.

Spike

On 10/21/05, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually... That's not quite correct.

 You can very easily have 2 files side by side.

 Just open them up and click and drag the one of the file tabs to the right
 until it shows a split window outline.

 You can also right-click on a tab and choose New Editor which will allow
 you to have the same file twice.

 The problem comes when you have two editors open on the same file. The
 code doesn't currently keep both editors up to date. As long as you know
 that, it's quite handy sometimes.

 Spike

 On 10/21/05, Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Is it possible to have a split screen in cfeclipse and
   display to different files in each view? If yes how? I looked
   around but could not find anything Thanks Victor
 
  Nope. That missing feature along with word wrap are the two sought after
  features that have yet to make it into CFEclipse.
 
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Re: jrun error log files

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
Sounds more like a corrupt dll to me, but that's just a guess.

Spike

On 10/22/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sounds like and old piece of java is choking somewhere

 ~Dave the disruptor~
 Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom
 and abuse at the same time.

 
 From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: jrun error log files

 Okay I just checked my jrun error logs and I am getting this error pretty
 regularly:

 Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc005) occurred at
 PC=0x80F4628
 Function=[Unknown.]
 Library=C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll

 NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
 just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
 reason and solutions.

 Anyone else getting these? What release documentation do check for this?



 

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Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
I'm not offended in the slightest. I'm actually slightly offended that you
would suggest that it's wrong to use it.

So much so that, I'll give you $1,000 if you can build me a ColdFusion
application that implements 90% of the features in cfopen.orghttp://cfopen.org
..

If I had $10,000 to spare I'd offer that because I know that it would take
enormously more time and money than that to build it.

Spike

On 10/22/05, Alan Rother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else
 offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org http://cfopen.org
 project is written in PHP?
 Doesn't Ray Camden have a nice BB type app written in CF and FB?
 Just had to put that out into the universe..
 =]
 Alan Rother
 Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

 On 10/21/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 10/21/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Although for what it's worth I actually already exist, am free and
 have
  at
   least some infrastructure as well. ;^)
 
  LOL! No offence intended...
 
  One thing that I think really would help the Open Source scene in the
  ColdFusion community would be to rally around just one or two places
  for projects. When folks say they don't see much Open Source happening
  in our community, that's partly (mostly?) because there's no single
  place to go to look for Open Source projects.
 
  And just to prove my point, I realized that my Open Source Concurrency
  library was hard to find so I've put that up on 
  cfopen.orghttp://cfopen.org
 http://cfopen.orgtoday.
  --
  Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
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Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
*Smacks Forehead*,

Why didn't I see that before.

It'll be done by Monday in time for us all to submit our projects no doubt
;-)

Spike

On 10/22/05, Emmet McGovern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Spike, why pay money? Isn't it obvious? We could start an open source
 project to make an open source distribution and collaboration app. Sheeesh

 -e

 -Original Message-
 From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:21 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)

 I'm not offended in the slightest. I'm actually slightly offended that you
 would suggest that it's wrong to use it.

 So much so that, I'll give you $1,000 if you can build me a ColdFusion
 application that implements 90% of the features in
 cfopen.org http://cfopen.orghttp://cfopen.org
 ...

 If I had $10,000 to spare I'd offer that because I know that it would take
 enormously more time and money than that to build it.

 Spike

 On 10/22/05, Alan Rother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else
  offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org http://cfopen.org 
 http://cfopen.org
  project is written in PHP?
  Doesn't Ray Camden have a nice BB type app written in CF and FB?
  Just had to put that out into the universe..
  =]
  Alan Rother
  Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
  On 10/21/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 10/21/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although for what it's worth I actually already exist, am free and
  have
   at
least some infrastructure as well. ;^)
  
   LOL! No offence intended...
  
   One thing that I think really would help the Open Source scene in the
   ColdFusion community would be to rally around just one or two places
   for projects. When folks say they don't see much Open Source happening
   in our community, that's partly (mostly?) because there's no single
   place to go to look for Open Source projects.
  
   And just to prove my point, I realized that my Open Source Concurrency
   library was hard to find so I've put that up on
 cfopen.org http://cfopen.orghttp://cfopen.org
  http://cfopen.orgtoday.
   --
   Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
   Got frameworks?
  
   If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
   -- Margaret Atwood
  
  
 
 



 

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Re: OT-Visual Web Server

2005-10-21 Thread Spike
It sounds very much like they've mis-understood someone.

I'd ask them for clarification on the details like vendor or brand name.
That way, if it is real, you can google it, and if it is a misunderstanding
on their part, you can politely inform them of the truth.

Spike

On 10/22/05, Mickael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I thought at first too, but they said no. It is a Visual Web
 Server. What could this be?

 
 From: Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 6:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: RE: OT-Visual Web Server

 I think they mean virtual hosts? One IP address many hosts, it's the
 webserver that decides to what website to route the traffic.

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  -Original Message-
  From: Mickael Elmalem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2005 11:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT-Visual Web Server
 
 
  Hello,
 
  Sorry for being OT but I am sure that someone on this list
  can help me out here. I have an app that my customer wants
  to host on their own webserver. I gave them the basic config
  that I require. They came back to me and said that they have
  decided to go with a Single IP, name based Visual Web Server.
 
  What is this thing? I could not find a straight answer?
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Spike
You can download either the plugin or standalone versions from the
macromedia labs website (http://labs.macromedia.com).

Spike

On 10/19/05, John Wilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark, so is Flex builder stand alone or a plug in for Eclipse?

 I had heard it was built on Eclipse but was it's own Eclipse, not a plugin
 for Eclipse.

 Sorry to thread hijack.

 On 10/19/05, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am currently using Flex Builder 2 as a plugin to Eclipse along with
  (of course!) CFEclipse and AFAE.
 
  In this sense I love Eclipse
 
  I can do my java dev, my XML dev, CF and Flex, then I head over to do
  HTML using AFAE, get a plugin for JS and Database browsing (did you
  know that RDS for CFE is in the works?) as well as actually browsing
  the web ALL from the same IDE!
 
  After that I can use the VSS and CVS plugins and all is well in the
 world.
 
  I am sure I am going to write a Gmail plugin at some point then I dont
  even need to have a browser window open to read these lists:)
 
  Just my 2 pence
 
  MD
 
 
 
 
  On 19/10/05, John Wilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I hear that Flex builder is built on Eclipse but isn't a plug in for
  eclipse
   like I originally thought. From what I've been told by my friends at
 MAX
   it's a stand alone Eclipse build. You can then add CFeclipse to it.
 Once
  out
   of Beta I'll probably be all over it. Be nice to have one IDE for FLex
  and
   CF work, since I'll probably be doing more of that type of work
 shortly.
  
   On 10/19/05, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I have no interest in Flex, but that's a good point for some people
 on
this
list I would assume.
   
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
   
-Original Message-
From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?
   
   
One more thought, then its back to work-
   
FLEX 2.0 The possibilities of flex builder and the CF to Flex bridge
really
excite me in a back-of-the-mind-gitty sort of way. I don't have time
  to
investigate now...but I sure intend to. As I am sure everyone knows
already, flexbuilder is an extension/built on top of (don't know
 which
  is
correct) Eclipse.
   
So, if you plan on working with Flex Builder, might want to make the
  move
to
Eclipse even though I think the learning curve will be much steeper.
   
Mark
   
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?
   
   
So every few months I go on a crusade to find a text editor better
  than
the one I currently use, Editplus. I've installed lots of them, but
  can't
really spend the time to get up to speed on any of them where I feel
  like
I'm being efficient. Let's be honest, the real reason I'm looking
 for
  a
new
editor is to increase productivity. So, I'd love to hear from some
 of
  you
what text editors you use, and more specifically, how you have it
configured.
   
My company just purchased Studio 8 for all of us and I'm seriously
considering giving Dreamweaver 8 a try (code use only), but I just
  don't
know if I can afford the time it would take for me to get used to
 it.
   
Anyone?
   
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: Java IDE

2005-10-13 Thread Spike
If you download the SDK version of Eclipse it comes with all the Java tools.

The Eclipse platform and Eclipse RCP downloads do not come with Java tools.

Spike

On 10/13/05, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I thought! I started going thru the Eclipse site but I
 wasn't sure if I needed a plugin to get the Java tools like you do
 with ColdFusion.

 So can I just use the straight up version of Eclipse or are there some
 plugins I need to get for it?

 On 10/13/05, Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I would like to incorporate more Java into my CF sites. Since
   I'm new to Java, can you guys recommend a good IDE to use to
   write the Java?
 
  ECLIPSE! :-)

 

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Re: David Gassner's email address?

2005-10-06 Thread Spike
Hi Jon,

David's email address is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

He's teaching a Flex class this week, so I'm not sure how quickly he'll be
able to respond.

Spike

On 10/6/05, Jon Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anybody know david gassner's email address?



 I've just read his XML article at:



 http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/41633.htm



 And he mentions some of the limitations of his cfmx xml creation are:



 Limitations

 Both methods of creating XML files have these limitations:



 UTF-8 encoding only: While the toString() function has an encoding
 attribute, it doesn't work for the XML document object. And while CFFile
 now has a charset attribute to output in other encoding formats, it
 doesn't affect the resulting XML declaration's encoding attribute. You
 can easily end up with a file in UTF-16 format, but an XML declaration
 that claims the file is in UTF-8.

 ...

 I'll describe workarounds for both of these problems in the next
 article. (If you need either of them right away, e-mail me.)



 However, in the next article, he doesn't seem to answer this question. I
 need the answer!



 Thanks,

 Jon





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Re: New to CFEclipse

2005-09-08 Thread Spike
On the project menu.

There is a build automatically option which should have a tick beside it.

If it does, the build project and build all options should be disabled. If 
it doesn't have a tick mark you should be able to use the build project 
option if you just want to compile the code.

Spike

On 9/8/05, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 compiles happen automagically upon saving in Eclipse Java projects,
 unless you turn this off.
 
 The problem is probabilly turning it on. Where is it?
 
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Re: New to CFEclipse

2005-09-07 Thread Spike
In Eclipse, right-click on the file containing the main() method and choose 
Run As  Java Application.

Spike


On 9/7/05, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm trying to develop my first Java CFX tag... You will laugh, but is
 there some way to access some Java compiler under Eclipse?
 I've created a Java project, I can see no Compile button, only a
 Build button and when I hit it, nothing happens :-(
 
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Re: OT: Getting Flex under JRun to run in IIS

2005-08-25 Thread Spike
I'm not sure if you can actually do this the way you've suggested.

I usually have a context root of /cfusion for my CF Server webapp and a 
context root of /flex for my Flex server webapp.

That allows me to call CFCs from the flex app and everything else is dandy.

I use an Apache rewrite rule to have it redirect requests for the top level 
webroot directory to /cfusion.

Spike

On 8/25/05, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I know this is the wrong list... not sure where the flex list is but you 
 are
 all clever chappies so it might apply the same as CF running under JRun
 I have an installation of JRun (fresh.. clean!) and I have deployed flex
 under a new (fresh! Clean!) server. Now I can access the flex apps under
 http://localhost:8300/flex/
 all fine. Then I get my flex server and I assign it using the handy
 wsconfig to my IIS sites. aha! problem.. since the context under Jrun is
 /flex/ and all I have done (it seems) is assigned the flex server instance
 to IIS so I can run .jsp pages but not .mxml pages (since that context 
 isnt
 asigned)
 Any clues?
 The purpose of this of course is to be able to run .cfc's and .mxml's from
 the same webroot (not under Jrun/servers) through IIS
 Hmm. its early, no coffee so I hope I made sense
 
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Re: CFEclipse 1.2

2005-08-17 Thread Spike
Hi everybody,

As Rob mentioned earlier, I'm on the road at the minute and only have 
limited access to email, so I haven't been able to keep up with this thread. 
I'll summarize some answers to the questions that I've seen and try to get 
full answers next week when I get back home.

* Eclipse 3.0 vs Eclipse 3.1 - Use Eclipse 3.1 if possible. None of the 
developers is running 3.0 any more, so there could be issues.

* Unable to instantiate editor - Did you install using the Eclipse install 
mechanism, or via the direct download? If you used the direct download did 
you read the text in red at the bottom of the downloads page on the 
cfeclipse.org http://cfeclipse.org website?

* Large files causing problems - Large files should not cause problems. No 
matter what anyone may think about the optimal size of a .cfm file the IDE 
should help you, not hinder you. If you are having a problem with 
performance let us know and we will fix it. Ideally if you can post the file 
causing the problems and the steps to reproduce the problem it will make it 
easier for us to fix, which will allow us to fix it faster.

* Closing tags - I just double-checked and I can't reproduce this in
CFE 1.2on my machine.
Some things to try: 
Un-check all the auto-insert options in the preferences, hit apply, then 
re-check them and hit apply again.
Close Eclipse and start it again from the command line with -clean as a 
command line option.
If you're using 3.0 try using 3.1 if possible
Try different combinations of auto-insert options. I have everything except 
the last option checked. I tested it with various other options without a 
problem, but it may be that a specific combination of options is the issue.

* Tag and/or attribute insight not working - Have a look at the CFEclipse 
editor preferences and set the tag insight delay to something small like 5 
which should cause it to show up pretty much immediately. 

* Eclipse update site - We are in the process of moving the CFEclipse 
website from tigris.org http://tigris.org to
www.cfeclipse.orghttp://www.cfeclipse.org.
A few weeks back we moved the update site and added the bleedinig edge 
releases (formerly nightly builds) to the update mechanism. You should 
update your Eclipse update site settings so that the URL for the CFEclipse 
update site is http://www.cfeclipse.org/update

* Documentation - We have a few disparate resources for documentation, but 
pretty much all of it is out of date. We are actively seeking contributors 
who would like to help out with documentation. If you are interested join up 
the cfeclipse contributors list and fire off a message to that effect. You 
can sign up for the cfeclipse contributors list here: 
http://lists.topica.com/lists/cfeclipse-contrib/

Hope I didn't miss anything important.

Spike

On 8/17/05, Michael Traher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 glad you got it working - you'll never look back! Mike
 
 On 8/17/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey, that was it! I got 3.1 installed and it seems to be working
  perfectly now. I'm going to use it all day today and see if I find
  anything troubling.
 
  --Ferg
 
  Ken Ferguson wrote:
 
  No, I must've missed it. That's got to be my problem. I'm still on
  3.0.2. I'll upgrade the platform and see if that gets me on track.
  Thanks!
  
  --Ferg
  
  Michael Traher wrote:
  
  
  
  Hi Ken, Did you pick up on the earlier mention that the tag closing 
 only
  works with eclipse 3.1 and not on earlier versions?
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CFEclipse 1.2

2005-08-14 Thread Spike
The CFEclipse crew is pleased to announce the immediate availability of 
CFEclipse 1.2.

This is the first full release of CFEclipse since late last year.

Full details available on the CFEclipse website - http://www.cfeclipse.org

Spike

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Re: bitching

2005-08-13 Thread Spike
I would have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this Connie.

I like the fact that the T-Shirts do not sport the official logo and fonts. 
It gives them more of an underground feel and makes them seem more like 
something for the community by the community IMO.

If you don't like them, don't buy them, but don't attack Will because of it. 
By all means tell him you don't like them, but telling him he's wrong is 
pretty arrogant especially in a field as broad and diverse as clothing 
design. I'm the proof that he's got it right at least for part of the 
community. I haven't bought one btw, but I do like the style.

My 2c

Spike


On 8/13/05, Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Will,
 
 We are not asking, at least I am not asking, for a shirt with tons of
 worthless art. What I want, is a shirt that accurately displays the cf
 logo, accurately displays the ColdfusionMX logo in the correct type faces
 and the correct weights and correct colors. You have the MX bolded, the
 Coldfusion thin, which does what? Emphasizes MX? That's the least
 important part of the logo. Have you ever studied logo designs? I have. A
 logo should be simple, it should be clean, and it should convey the
 important parts prominently. Yours is backasswords. I applaud your efforts
 since no other party, other than perhaps Macromedia, is offering CF 
 shirts.
 But for gosh sakes, let's at least get it right! Send the right message!
 This is Coldfusion after all, not something that resembles Coldfusion!
 
 
 Constanty Connie DeCinko III
 Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
 Lone Jet Enterprises
 Glendale, Arizona
 www.LoneJet.com http://www.LoneJet.com
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: bitching

2005-08-13 Thread Spike
+1

On 8/13/05, Todd Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Personally, I vote we keep Dave around, stop whining and get back on topic
 before someone really gets their feelings hurt.
 
 Contribute positively or shut up.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:18 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: bitching
 
  Again, I ask the moderators, how do we get this abusive
  person removed from this list? Do a search and count how
  many times they've made a personal attack against others.
  I'm sure Charlie can't appreciate how Dave beat up on him.
 
 
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Re: regex

2005-07-29 Thread Spike
You don't need to use a regex to get that info out of the whois output.

cfset aLines = listToArray(whoisInfo,chr(10)) /
cfset expiryLine =  /
cfloop from=1 to=#arrayLen(aLines)# index=i
cfif findNoCase(Expiration Date,aLines[i])
cfset expiryLine = aLines[i] /
cfbreak
/cfif
/cfloop

cfif len(expiryLine)
cfset dateString = listLast(expiryLine,:) /
cfset expiryDate = parseDateTime(dateString) /
cfoutput#expiryDate#/cfoutput
/cfif

Spike

On 7/29/05, Russ Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 While that tag looks very handy, it doesn't write the REGEX for you, you
 still have to supply the REGEX to the tag for it to find the text your
 looking for.
 
 
 Russ
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 July 2005 17:22
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: FW: [CF-Dev] regex
 
 I need to extract data from WHOIS output.
 
 Have a look a CF_REExtract:
 
 http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/REextract/testREextract.cfm?p=hf
 
 It has especially developed for this king of job.
 
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What did you do for cfeclipse today?

2005-06-17 Thread Spike
In the interests of getting some traction for the cfeclipse project I am 
sending this email out to some of the more popular ColdFusion lists. 
Apologies for the cross-list post for those of you who are on multiple 
lists. If you are not interested in the cfeclipse project you can hit 
the delete button now  :-) 




ok, so you're still reading. That means that somewhere deep down in your 
soul you might like to help out.

The project is owned and run by the community and we would like to see 
more ongoing community involvement. To that end we are starting a drive 
to encourage more people to help out, so we have created a cfeclipse 
contributors list at:

http://lists.topica.com/lists/cfeclipse-contrib/

The idea of this list is to help co-ordinate any efforts to improve the 
cfeclipse project. Those efforts may be in the form of java development, 
writing documentation, testing, answering support questions, 
co-ordinating efforts, fund raising, or anything else that you think 
would help.

Every so often on the list we will send an email with the same subject 
line as this one, or something similar. That will serve 2 purposes. 
Firstly it will remind you that the cfeclipse project needs help and 
secondly it will help us to track what everyone is doing.

Some of you will no doubt ask why we need another list apart from the 
ones on tigris.org http://tigris.org. There are two reasons. Firstly
we intend to migrate
away from tigris.org http://tigris.org in the future for a number of
reasons and secondly
the lists on tigris.org http://tigris.org are catering to two
specific groups of people.
Users and plugin developers. They don't cover the whole range of 
potential contributors.

ok, so that's enough info to be going on with. If you're interested, 
click the link above and join up  :) 

Spike



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Re: From Across The Atlantic

2005-04-26 Thread Spike
I can't speak for much on the work prospects, but I can tell you that 
getting a work permit for the USA is an awful lot of hard work.

I arrived here in December 2003 with the intention of looking around as 
a tourist for a month or so. Once I was here I decided to stay and 
looked at options for changing from a visitor visa to one that allows me 
to work.

Finally at the end of January this year I got my work permit 13 months 
after arriving.

That might sound bad, but from what I read on the various ex-pat forums 
changing status once you're in the country takes less time and has a 
higher chance of success than trying to get a visa from outside the 
country. Most of the visas that you would probably be eligble for have a 
specific quota per year. The quota is usually reached about 2 weeks 
after the visas for that year become available.

That said, if you are thinking about coming to the USA, make sure you 
have a job with a large corporation who can work around the visa 
minefield on your behalf. From what I can tell, coming over here to 
become a contractor is next to impossible.

Spike

Adrian Lynch wrote:
 Hello all, I'm self employeed in the UK. Like most people here, a trip to
 America is always on my mind.
 
 What do you think the prospects would be for someone coming over to the US
 to work as a CFer on a contract basis? I'm by no means under worked at the
 moment, but I like the idea of combining a holiday with work.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of upping roots for a foreign land? How did
 it work out?
 
 I haven't looked at the legal side of things, just looking for some
 thoughts.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ade
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Re: Process CF Page Then Cancel Response

2005-03-23 Thread Spike
Use a hidden iframe.

I'd have to wonder why you would want that though.

Surely if you click a link you want to at least know if the operation 
completed successfully?

Spike

Dawson, Michael wrote:
 Is there a way to do it w/o Javascript?  I was thinking that there may
 be some sort of header I could return to the browser that would make it
 ignore the request altogether.
 
 Thanks! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Process CF Page Then Cancel Response
 
 Your best bet is to do some javascript. Change a hidden iframe, change
 an image src, call an XMLHttpRequest, or whatever. Have it hit a CFM
 page, then the current page will stay but your page will have been
 called
 
 -nathan strutz
 http://www.dopefly.com/
 
 
 
 Dawson, Michael wrote:
 
I want to click on a link, have CF process some stuff (send an email) 
then that's it.

I don't want the page to change in the browser.

How do I do that?

Thanks
M!ke


 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Process CF Page Then Cancel Response

2005-03-23 Thread Spike
Ah yes,

That makes sense.

Thanks

Spike

Dawson, Michael wrote:
 I built a Click to add this event to your calendar link on our
 intranet site.
 
 The page emails a vCalendar message to the person who is logged in. 
 
 This really isn't a mission-critical feature.  Even if I put a
 confirmation page, that doesn't really mean the email actually got all
 the way to their inbox.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Process CF Page Then Cancel Response
 
 Use a hidden iframe.
 
 I'd have to wonder why you would want that though.
 
 Surely if you click a link you want to at least know if the operation
 completed successfully?
 
 Spike
 
 

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Re: Ajax

2005-03-17 Thread Spike
The correct URL for neuromancer is:

http://www.robrohan.com/projects/neuromancer/index.cfm

I believe it is open source, but you'd need to get confirmation from Rob 
on that.

Spike

Rick Mason wrote:
 Michael,
 
 I think the idea of a new list on Ajax is a good one.  I've become
 quite interested in it lately, especially after seeing what people are
 doing with Google maps.
 
 http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/gmap2_flash.html
 
 I've seen quite a few mentions of Neuromancer.  Is Neuromancer open
 source?  I don't see it on CFOpen and unfortunately the link you
 provided doesn't work.  Is there an alternative place it can be
 downloaded?
 
 I'd like to experiment with CF and Ajax but don't want to reinvent the
 wheel if an API for CF'ers has already been written.
 
 
 Rick Mason
 
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:38:35 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
With the current interest in Ajax (Asynchronous Javascript + XML), I've 
decided to open up a new list dedicated to it. This list should allow those 
interested in the technology to discuss it outside of ColdFusion or any 
specific platform. The list can be found here:

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/47

and a good article on the technology can be found here:

http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php

some other links of interest on Ajax:

http://www.rohanclan.com/products/neuromancer/index.cfm
http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/399.cfm
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:38991
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Re: I Hate Macromedia

2005-03-17 Thread Spike
Damien McKenna wrote:
 BTW, I *have* dealt with Windows XP's activation issues and it was less
 hassle than the limitations on Dreamweaver - sure I was on hold for a
 while but I didn't have to buy a new copy or anything.  When I buy a
 full price software package (not an OEM or discounted item) I expect
 that I can reinstall it on whatever platforms are supported.  Let me
 rephrase that, I *will* reinstall it as *I* see fit, EULA or not.  When
 you buy a car it won't suddenly not let you drive it because you
 already drove to the store twice today, sorry.

That's a terrible analogy.

A better one would be to say that Ford doesn't allow you to make a copy 
of your car to use at your hunting lodge. In the case of material goods 
there is usually no need for a license of that kind because the effort 
required to create a duplicate is huge. With software it's a different 
story and unfortunately, due to the amount of piracy, software vendors 
feel they have to resort to this sort of thing to keep their business 
thriving.

 
 As for the BSA, they notify you before they begin their crusades through
 your offices, IIRC they have no legal backing to just waltz in and
 examine what they want without doing so first.  Its not like you're
 hiding dead bodies, its software.
 

You could say the same thing about the IRS, but they can come waltzing 
in and take all your posessions and put you in prison for quite a while. 
You might not be hiding dead bodies, but you're certainly breaking the law.

Spike
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Re: I Hate Macromedia

2005-03-17 Thread Spike
Damien McKenna wrote:
 -Original Message-
 
When you buy a car it won't suddenly not let you drive it because
you already drove to the store twice today, sorry.

That's a terrible analogy.
 
 
 How about your car not letting your spouse drive it because the
 manufacturer doesn't have him/her in their records?
 

It's more like law enforcement not letting your wife drive your car 
because she doesn't have a driving license?

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Re: Quick, how much is CF

2005-03-17 Thread Spike
Looks like 1,299 USD for the standard edition.

Spike

Will Tomlinson wrote:
 Ok, I know I could go find this on MM, but I don't have time to dig around 
 their site right now. 
 
 I have a prospective client that wants an app to collect CC#'s. That's IT! 
 But he wants it on his own IIS server. When we talked bout the prospects of 
 installing cf and it was gonna COST something, he shyed away and said look, 
 I'll just use ASP cause it won't cost anything. I'm like look, I can build 
 you an app in half the time. Didn't matter, he was finished with me at that 
 point. 
 
 But I always use shared hosting and have never installed cf myself on a 
 machine other than development. 
 
 Exactly what kind of price would we be talkin for somethin like this?
 
 Thanks,
 Will
 
 

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Re: Get Disk Space from CF?

2005-03-17 Thread Spike
This technote refers to CFMX, but the COM stuff you can do in CF 5.

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18210

HTH

Spike

Jim McAtee wrote:
 Does anyone know how I can retrieve the amount of disk space remaining in 
 a disk volume on the server on which CF is running?
 
 CF5, IIS5, Windows 2000 Server Standard. 
 
 
 

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Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Spike
I would be inclined to agree with Isaac...

I was effectively not allowed to work last year because I was waiting 
for the US government visa approval process which seems to move on a 
geological timescale.

I kept myself busy by increasing my knowledge of Java helping out on the 
CFEclipse project.

Now that I've got my work permit I find I'm getting just as much Java as 
CF work. That certainly wouldn't have been the case a year ago, so I 
think it was time well spent.

Besides, it's always good to diversify. It makes you more employable and 
makes you a better programmer at the languages you do already know IMO.

Spike

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
I work for a small company and have for about three years
now, and I'm
either going to have to create something new or find a
blunt object to
mutilate myself with. They are happy with the web app and
what it does
as is, so I'm not getting any demands or direction in the
way of
writing or even editing any code. Although I enjoy small
doses of the
webmaster side of things, I do not want it to be my
full-time job -
and at this rate it is going to be. Just wondering
(hoping) some of
you out there have been in a similar situation at one time
or another,
and what you did to get out of the rut?
 
 
TIA!!!
 
 
 Woohoo! Time to help-out with some open-source projects, like umm...
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Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Spike
Good point!

Even the suckiest of jobs is better than having to spend all day at home 
with the kids ;-)

Spike

Jim Davis wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What to do - stagnant job

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:23 -0600, Donna French [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Just wondering (hoping) some of
you out there have been in a similar situation at one time or another,
and what you did to get out of the rut?

I quit. Then went and looked for a new job.

I've always given people the same advice: if you're not happy with
your job, quit. Don't bitch about it, don't expect it will get better,
just quit. Then go out and look for something better.
 
 
 I assume you don't have kids?
 
 Sometimes you stick it out at a sucky job for reasons other than personal
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Re: URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Spike
This is pretty much exactly what I designed the FriendlyURLServlet to do.

I'm in the middle of adding some functionality to that to allow you to 
specify a redirectHandler in web.xml that will cause all requests that 
match the servlet mapping to be passed directly to the handler.

so if you had a URL like this:

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm

and your web.xml looked something like this:

servlet
 servlet-nameFUServlet/servlet-name
 display-nameFriendlyUrlServlet/display-name
 descriptionTranslates friendly URLs to objects/description
 servlet-classFriendlyURLServlet/servlet-class
 init-param
param-nameredirectHandler/param-name
param-value/go.cfm/param-value
 /init-param
   /servlet

   servlet-mapping
 servlet-nameFUServlet/servlet-name
 url-pattern/cf_lists/*/url-pattern
 is-defaultfalse/is-default
   /servlet-mapping

/go.cfm would get the request with an extra URL variable called path. 
The value of that variable would be /cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm

How you handle the processing of that variable and any subsequent 
redirection is entirely up to you.

Spike

Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 I think I'm not making myself clear here. I'm speaking about a CF based url
 rewriter, not a generic 404 catcher. If an url is written in a specific
 manner (messages_4_33432) then it'll translate into a valid and expected
 page. This is designed as a way to format specific pages that normally would
 need url/form variables into static looking pages. 
 For example, a user or bot sees:
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm
 This is a valid url and any attempt to visit it will result in a valid
 document. Behind the scenes this may be something other than a file named
 messages_4_38946.cfm but that does not matter to the visitor. All they care
 about is a link and a result.
  
 
I done it ages ago, and I found it is not how the web is supposed to work,
a
404 error means page not found (as we all know) and that's what it should
be
used for, there are all kinds of ramifications when you use it for
something
else, for example; search engines will not pick your page up, fine if you
don't want them listed in the first place. I think you are also opening
yourself up for a security attack (not sure about the specifics anymore).

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Re: URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Spike
Dave Watts wrote:
servlet
 servlet-nameFUServlet/servlet-name
 display-nameFriendlyUrlServlet/display-name
 
 
 When I saw FUServlet, something else entirely came to mind.

Really?

I'm sure a good psychologist would have a thing or two to say about 
that, but that's kinda OT ;-)

 
 But anyway, there are lots of tools that will rewrite URLs, of course, and
 I'd strongly recommend that anyone interested in doing so use one of these
 existing tools like Spike's servlet, or other servlets like UrlRewriteFilter
 (http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/), or mod_rewrite for Apache, or ISAPI_Rewrite
 for IIS, rather than reinventing the wheel one more time.

The obvious caveat for most of these solutions is that you have to be in 
control of the server to get anything set up.

I've just uploaded the latest version of the *cough* FU Servlet *cough* 
to http://fuservlet.cfopen.org. I'll try to get the documentation and 
other stuff migrated up there later today.

If anyone's interested in helping out with either documentation or code 
maintenance, drop me a line off list.

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Re: URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Spike
FWIW, You should be able to get all of the information you mention below 
if you are using the FUServlet, but as you say, it's worthwhile to see 
if what you want to do is viable because it would not require the user 
to have control of the server and it's fun to play with ideas :-)

Spike

Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 And when has that stopped me from reinventing the wheel? :)
 The point is to see if it is possible and viable for its own sake and for
 usage. With FUServlet and other technologies I may not have full control
 over logging as to where someone came from, what they thought they went to
 and what the actual results were. Either way, it's a nice proof of concept.
 
 
servlet
 servlet-nameFUServlet/servlet-name
 display-nameFriendlyUrlServlet/display-name

When I saw FUServlet, something else entirely came to mind.

But anyway, there are lots of tools that will rewrite URLs, of course, and
I'd strongly recommend that anyone interested in doing so use one of these
existing tools like Spike's servlet, or other servlets like
UrlRewriteFilter
(http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/), or mod_rewrite for Apache, or
ISAPI_Rewrite
for IIS, rather than reinventing the wheel one more time.

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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
 As far as I'm concerned, their product costs me a lot.
 

That's certainly a valid position to take while still coming across, to 
me at least, as particularly mean spirited and selfish.

For my part I've found that FireFox is an order of magnitude easier to 
develop for because of the developer centric extensions that people have 
written for it. The lack of documentation has never been an issue 
because I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things 
like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension.

YMMV of course.

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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
Claude Schneegans wrote:
  I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things
 
 
like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension.
 
 
 I agree that tools like Javascript console, for instance, are pretty handy 
 compared to MSIE,
 but before you can read error messages and debug, you need to write code. And 
 to write code, you need a reference about all possible functions, properties, 
 etc... This is what is lacking.
 Having a message which tells you exactly where your code calls a method not 
 supported by FF is good. What would be great is to know WHICH one you should 
 call instead. 
 

Have you looked at the info here:

http://www.mozilla.org/docs/dom/domref/

I haven't looked in any depth, but it seems to cover a good amount of 
that sort of stuff.

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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
There's also:

http://mozref.com/

Which seems to be pretty comprehensive.

SPike

Claude Schneegans wrote:
  I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things
 
 
like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension.
 
 
 I agree that tools like Javascript console, for instance, are pretty handy 
 compared to MSIE,
 but before you can read error messages and debug, you need to write code. And 
 to write code, you need a reference about all possible functions, properties, 
 etc... This is what is lacking.
 Having a message which tells you exactly where your code calls a method not 
 supported by FF is good. What would be great is to know WHICH one you should 
 call instead. 
 

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Re: litlle cfeclipse question

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
Unfortunately word wrap in cfeclipse is a lot harder to implement than 
it really should be.

The fundamental problem is that when you wrap the text, the line number 
count goes off and you need to have a way of dealing with that for 
handling errors and the like.

The main stumbling block is that the java classes that handle code 
folding are largely from the core of Eclipse and aren't supposed to be 
sub-classed. Since code folding does a lot of work with recalculating 
line numbers it's not something we can work around too easily.

Maybe the best thing to do is to submit a bug report/enhancement request 
to the Eclipse dev team here:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Platformbug_severity=enhancement

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 Thanks
  
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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
Claude Schneegans wrote:
  There's also:
 
 
http://mozref.com/
 
 
 
 Yeah, more and more unofficial docs are being published, but as this 
 one says:
 a guide to help unwary Mozilla application developers find their way 
 through the largely undocumented Mozilla /Application Object Model.
 /
 So this confirm my point.
 /

It confirms your point if you were saying that the Mozilla people don't 
necessarily have the best documention, or that that documentation might 
be hard to find (The first link I sent was on mozilla.org after all). I 
somehow managed to misread your post as meaning there wasn't any useful 
documentation out there.

How silly of me ;)

Expecially given this comment:

But having to spend hours just to find how it works is kind of 
insulting for other developers.

It took me less than 2 minutes of searching google to come up with the 2 
links I sent, so I have to wonder how much investigation you did before 
reaching that conclusion.

To reiterate the question I sent in the first email with the link to, 
Have you looked at either of those?

If so, did they help, or were they lacking in some way?

I'm sure there are a lot of people on the list who would be interested 
in knowing exactly what those sites do or don't have.

Spike

 
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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
I can't help but ask how much have you donated to these people who you 
think should be writing documentation.

Even if you believe that they are the ones who should be writing it, 
surely you don't believe that they should do it for free.

Not forgetting that THEIR product is something you get for free and 
which has done an enormous amount to allow for the creation of sites 
that are completely compatible on multiple platforms.

As someone who spends about 15 hours a week writing software that I give 
away for the benefit of everyone I really do have to shake my head and 
wonder if it's worth it when people come back with an attitude like this.

Spike

Claude Schneegans wrote:
  why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then.
 
 What a dummy remark :-(
 Documentation should be done by the ones who know their product, not by 
 the one who wants to learn.
 Spending hours to try to make scripts compatible withe THEIR product is 
 already helping them.
 But having to spend hours just to find how it works is kind of insulting 
 for other developers.
 

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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
Thanks Dave,

My reply wasn't to your post, it was to Claude's.

I expect that you are indeed the type of person who would get on with 
the job of actually trying to fix things. What ticks me off are the 
people who expect everything to be done for them for free and 
voiciferously complain when it doesn't happen, but don't do anything to 
help those who are volunteering their time.

For most developers documentation is one of the least favoured jobs and 
it is one of the few things that someone who really doesn't have 
development skills or much experience with a product can contribute to. 
That's why I found Claude's remarks so irritating.

Spike

dave wrote:
 I don't, simply put. But I also don't complain about it either and I 
 appriciate the work ppl like you do, that wasn't the point.
   The point is if you are gunna bitch about something then do something about 
 it cause bitching on here won't change it.
  I bitch about ms all the time but at least I take it to them as well and try 
 to get what im bitching about fixed.
 
 
 From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? 
 
 I can't help but ask how much have you donated to these people who you 
 think should be writing documentation.
 
 Even if you believe that they are the ones who should be writing it, 
 surely you don't believe that they should do it for free.
 
 Not forgetting that THEIR product is something you get for free and 
 which has done an enormous amount to allow for the creation of sites 
 that are completely compatible on multiple platforms.
 
 As someone who spends about 15 hours a week writing software that I give 
 away for the benefit of everyone I really do have to shake my head and 
 wonder if it's worth it when people come back with an attitude like this.
 
 Spike
 
 Claude Schneegans wrote:
 
why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then.

What a dummy remark :-(
Documentation should be done by the ones who know their product, not by 
the one who wants to learn.
Spending hours to try to make scripts compatible withe THEIR product is 
already helping them.
But having to spend hours just to find how it works is kind of insulting 
for other developers.

 
 

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Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
dave wrote:
 I realized that after I sent that Spike, sorry bout that :)
 
  I know most ppl on here don't like my attitude but I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS 
 help where I can, as quite a few ppl on here can attest.
 
  I too grow tired of the it better be free and it better work flawlessly 
 crap myself.
  I mean I can spend $400 on an OS that surely isn't perfect (not my choice 
 words btw) and hell I can't even get help with that product, so expecting 
 rose pedals to be included with free things too me is absurd.
 
  But the other point of the post was that that company refuses to work around 
 a current bug to make the site accessable is crazy! If the site was a general 
 public site marketed towards grandma and grandpa still running on ie then ok 
 they might be ok but to be seeling web technology makes theur comments, 
 silly, since the ppl most likely using their site are also most likely using 
 ff as well.
 

I totally agree about the company that doesn't want to add a workaround 
for a FireFox bug. That's seems just as absurd to me as phoning random 
customers and asking them to go to a competitor.

Spike

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Re: Load Balancing Tools

2005-02-28 Thread Spike
An ANT script would allow you to do this fairly easily, but as others 
have said, you would probably better off using something such as rsync 
that happens at the operating system level on the server itself.

Spike

Ricky Fritzsching wrote:
 Does anyone know any Dreamweaver extensions of third party tools that make
 managing load balancing a little easier?
  
 I currently have of three servers that are LB and everytime I need to make a
 static change I have to upload to three different sites in Dreamweaver. I am
 planning to write a cfftp script that will help me as well, but I just
 wanted to see what else was out there.
  
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Re: launching a page in cfeclipse

2005-02-28 Thread Spike
I'm confused...

For all my projects I have pretty much only one cfml file that lives in 
the webroot. Every other file is called from there either as a custom 
tag, as a CFC invocation or as an include.

I typically have my project directory structure the same as yours and I 
set the project url to something like:

http://local.example.com/index.cfm

Right now CFEclipse doesn't have a clue how that maps to the project 
directory structure and it doesn't care either.

The thinking behind that approach is that most projects use a very small 
number of files as http entry points so it makes more sense when firing 
up the integrated browser to have it go to the project root URL for the 
project that the file you're editing belongs to.

A few people have asked for the ability to browse to the specific file 
you're editing as well. Chris Bradford added initial support for this a 
while back, but you can still run into issues because it just appends 
the path to the current file onto the project URL path.

The proposed fix is to allow you to specify the file that the project 
URL points to, so we can correctly calculate relative URLs for any files 
that are under the webroot.

The only challenge that now remains is finding a willing volunteer :-)

Spike


Raymond Camden wrote:
 Every single site I've built has a root that is below web root. IE:
 
 / (project root)
 /components
 /includes
 /etc
 /wwwroot
 
 So if I set my project root to foo.com, then obviously I can't go in
 wwwroot/foo.cfm and have it work right. Don't most folks have a
 project root that is below web root so they can work w/ files outside
 of web root?
 
 
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:16:38 -0800, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:45:27 -0600, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rob - this is a dumb Eclipse question, but can you tell me how this is
done? I see how to set a Project home page - but not how to make it
so that

No such thing as dumb questions ;)


/foo/moo/goo.cfm
will load as
project url/foo/moo/goo.cfm

That ability is not in the 1.1.17 (stable) version. You can set the
project url and setup the scribble pad and a few other things. In the
18.x version, when you have the .cfm file open there is a little globe
on the tool bar that's tool tip is browse to this page


Also - what about cases where project root is above web root. I wouldn't want
/wwwroot/foo.cfm
to go to
project url/wwwroot/foo.cfm

hum... well that file wouldn't be part of the current project then.
You could make another project or just use an external browser, but in
what situation have you done that out of curiosity?

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Re: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL

2005-02-24 Thread Spike
That's a ridiculous thing to say without at least qualifying it.

MySQL is a far better tool for me than MSSQL because as a developer I 
often need to be able to destroy an existing database and replace it 
with a backed up version.

With MySQL I can do that in a matter of a couple of seconds from the 
command line, or from a batch file. With MSSQL I need to open up 
Enterprise manager and run the restore database backup function praying 
that CFMX has dropped any existing connections because if it hasn't I'll 
have to go stop that before doing the restore.

There's no doubt that there are times where MSSQL is a better fit, but 
blythely assuming that it's always the case is naive at best.

Spike

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Well, whatever you think of Microsoft, SQL Server is far far better then
 mySQL will ever be (cost aside that is!).
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 February 2005 16:27
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL
 
 Yeah, I thought that question might come up... 
 
 We are configing a new windows 2000 webserver server and the owner walked up
 and just asked out of the blue what if we install MySql and not MSSQL. (and
 no this was not a Dilbert Pointy haired Boss sorta moment.) We have talked
 about moving to a non Windows platform for our production servers in the
 future. And since MSSQL only runs on windows we would need to move to
 another database platform. We are still in the very early stages of mapping
 out our tech plan for what OS platforms we want to use in production. So,
 nothing is set in stone just yet. I am primarily just doing research now, so
 I thought I would ask people who have worked with MySQL and have good and
 bad experiences.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Mark W. Breneman
 -Cold Fusion Developer
 -Network Administrator
   Vivid Media
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   608.270.9770
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL
 
 Mark W. Breneman wrote:
 
 
We are in the early stages of *thinking* about moving away from MS SQL 
server and moving to MySQL.
 
 
 Why? What do you hope to gain from this move?
 
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Re: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL

2005-02-24 Thread Spike
 
 Actually, that's not fair at all. You can use T-SQL and the osql
 command line just as effectively, though it takes more steps and isn't
 as intuitive since MS has forced you to think GUI. It takes a
 similar amount of steps to restore a database through the MySQL
 Administrator GUI too if you can at all (so used to command line I
 haven't checked...)
  

Thanks Paul, I wasn't aware that you could do that with MSSQL. Does that 
allow you to get around those times when CF has still got a DB 
connection open?

The example I gave was just that, an example. There are plenty more such 
as the ability to dump a database table to an SQL script. That can be 
handy if you need to send some sample data to another developer.

Again, these are things that are handy for a developer. They don't 
necessarily translate to making it a better DB for live sites, but I 
still stand by my point that there are times when MySQL will work better 
for you and times when it won't.

The same applies to other options like Hibernate, Prevayler, PostgreSQL, 
Cloudbase, Oracle etc.

Spike

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Re: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL

2005-02-24 Thread Spike
I think you mean SQLYog,

I've used it quite a bit in the past and it's very handy if you aren't a 
command line junkie, or can't remember the specific syntax of a command.

Spike

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
The example I gave was just that, an example. There are
plenty more such
as the ability to dump a database table to an SQL script.
That can be
handy if you need to send some sample data to another
developer.
 
 
 There's a 3rd party GUI tool called SqlYob (I think) for MySQL that
 handles a lot of these types of things. It's probably not the only one
 -- and I still found the interface a bit strange/fidgety, but it
 worked. :)
 
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Re: Pro/Con Moving from MSSQL to MySQL

2005-02-24 Thread Spike
I used the windows version of PostgreSQL on a pretty big project last 
year. The deployment was on *nix, but I was developing on Windows.

The only gotcha I ran into was that the pid file sometimes got left 
behind if PostgreSQL terminated unexpectedly. That resulted in me not 
being able to start the PostgreSQL service. The first couple of times 
that happened I ended up reinstalling PostgreSQL, but the third time I 
decide to find out exactly what was causing the issue.

 From what I remember the file is postmaster.pid and is in the data 
sub-directory of the postgreSQL install. Deleting the file solves the 
problem.

I'm not sure if that issue is fixed in the latest release of the windows 
install, but I thought I'd save you the pain if it isn't ;)

Spike

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
One is the obvious question of, have you thought of
PostgreSQL?  It is
much more feature rich than MySQL and is now also a native
Windows app
with version 8 (previously it wasn't, at least as
standard).
 
 
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 set up a 2nd machine at home (yes, I know about vpc) to try and test
 with PostgreSQL but now that the windows port is available, I'll
 probably see about testing the onTap framework with it like I wanted
 to a while back. It already supports MS SQL, MySQL, Oracle and MS
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Re: cfeclipse ? rob

2005-02-19 Thread Spike
Jeez Will,

People who don't know will be getting the impression you're about to go 
postal ;)

Spike

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yeah you are right, after I wrote that I went back in and it worked 
but it didnt the first time.

 
 
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Re: cfeclipse ? rob

2005-02-19 Thread Spike
dave wrote:
 ok seems though this is kinda odd, the eclipse download for linux is a .zip 
 file, which linux cant open ^%$^%$*^$
  but thats ok
 
  my ? is, on this install I installed cfmx7 to a seperate hard drive hoping 
 that i could then access it either from winblows or linux (get the same files 
 without having to update either OS), is that possible with cfeclipse? can i 
 make the workbench folder the wwwroot in cfmx 7?
 
  

I'm not sure that it would be a good idea to put your workspace in a 
place where it could be used by Eclipse from either Windows or Linux, 
but there would be no problem with having 2 workspaces, one under 
Windows and another under Linux with projects pointing to a shared location.

When creating projects for the first time tell it to use an external 
location rather than the workspace as the location of the project. Then, 
the next time you use the other operating system use the import option 
on the file menu to import the project to that workspace rather than 
creating it using the File  New menu.

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Re: Tighten up this logic.

2005-02-18 Thread Spike
How about this:

cfelseif reFindNoCase('^[a-z]{1,2}[0-9]{5,11}$',recAry[1])

Spike

Ian Skinner wrote:
 Would somebody (or several somebody's) mind tighting up this logic.
 
 !--- Else If: the 1st field of the record is between 6 and 12 characters 
 long, begins with 1 or 2 letters and ends with 5 to 11 digits, then the value 
 is an Eye readable Codabar format. ---
 
 cfelseif len(trim(recAry[1])) GTE 6 AND len(trim(recAry[1])) LTE 12 AND 
 refind([A-Z]{1,2}[0-9]{5,11},Ucase(trim(recAry[1])))
 
 This [d4238616c] value should not have gotten through, but it did.
 
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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
 
  You can't use Plum in conjunction with Fusebox or any other
  framework,as there would be no need.  There is nothing that
  another framework could add to what Plum already has.
 

That statement nicely sums up a couple of resons why I will probably 
never use Plum. In its current form at least.

If I can't used it in conjunction with Fusebox or any other framework it 
  must be putting some pretty severe restrictions on the freedom I have 
to make decisions about how to structure my application.

Assuming that another framework couldn't add to what Plum does is pretty 
arrogant and not a little bit short sighted.

As a simple example, how well does Plum cover the things provided by a 
framework for simplifying the use of Event gateways?

I have downloaded and looked at Plum a couple of times. I didn't care 
for the structure of the applications it generated and I didn't like the 
code it generated either.

That's not to say it isn't a great tool. It's just not something that I 
can see providing *me* with anything other than frustration.

The specific things I don't like:

* I dislike code generation wizards. They assume too much and are 
practically impossible to build in a way that doesn't do that.
* I dislike anything that auto-generates code unless I have control over 
the templates for that code generation.
* I distrust anything that presumes what the directory structure for my 
application should be without knowing anything about the application itself.
* Once I have created the application structure using Plum I am 
effectively on my own when it comes to editing it.
* If I want to customize the auto-generation code for something like a 
form I need to modify some of the core Plum files. What happens if I 
upgrade Plum to a new version, or if I make a change that has an 
unexpected consequence elsewhere in the Plum framework?
* There is little in the way of data encapsulation. Shared scope 
variables are used widely throughout the core files rather than being 
passed in as attributes to custom tags, so if I create a variable in one 
of the shared scopes I can easily introduce a bug which affects the 
framework.
* In the few times that I have played with Plum I have always got the 
uneasy feeling that it would be easy for a client to introduce a 
requirement after the initial project release that would require the 
modfication of some of the Plum core files. Without understanding 
exactly what the entire framework does internally that exercise could be 
very prone to introducing bugs.

Essentially my unease boils down to the feeling that Plum does too much 
in the way of generating application code and too little in the way of 
providing powerful APIs that can be extended and used by a developer 
without ever needing to know how the internals work.


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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
I would agree with everything Joe says here.

Plum certainly has it's place in the market. How big that place is I 
don't know, but I'm sure a lot of people will find it useful to them.

Having written a few frameworks myself and used quite a few others I 
know what works for me and a fundamental requirement is that ease of 
maintenance should be a primary consideration for all aspects of the 
application. That's why I share Joe's concerns about the commingling of 
display and business logic. If any application logic has to be repeated 
in multiple places maintenance becomes more difficult, but often the 
only way to avoid that is to build abstraction into the core of the 
application. Unfortunately Plum doesn't really allow for much in the way 
of abstraction and actively gets in the way in a lot of cases.

The downside of all that abstraction is that it takes more time and 
effort to get the thing built in the first place, and documenting the 
application becomes more important. If you get it right though, it 
*always* seems to pay for itself in the long run.

The market reality is that a lot of people could care less about 
abstraction of logic and building for maintenance. They have app 
requirements and they need the app done quickly. Often, even if they do 
have the time to build the app, they often don't have the experience to 
know what will work and what won't. Without having your fingers burnt by 
experience a few times it is very difficult to know beforehand whether 
an approach is a good one or not.

This, of course is only opinion based on *my* experience, not fact. If 
you disagree you no doubt have your own reasons and I'm certainly not 
going to tell you you're wrong. Unless you're working for me of course ;)

Spike


Joe Rinehart wrote:
 Adam,
 
 I'm not trying to attack Plum.  If I was, I'd say something silly and
 offensive.  My observations come after using Plum, trying it out, and
 taking some of its guts apart.
 
 
The way it works,
what it contains, how applications are organized, and how Plum applications
are written.
 
 
 The way it works simply isn't what I'd find ideal.  There's so
 seperation of logic - a page is responsible for both is view and its
 business logic, making that an atomic capsule.  If Plum generated
 data access and possibly business object CFCs for the tables it
 represented, and its tags instead used those, I could then at least
 reuse the business logic and data access portions elsewhere without
 having to reinvent the wheel.
 
 This is a step backwards from the point of frameworks like Fusebox and
 Mach-II, and is exactly why Plum can be compared to neither.  Plum
 generates code that maintains a status quo of spaghetti code,
 requiring custom business logic to be spread throughout the
 presentation layer.
 
 
Please, before you go spreading FUD due to a lack of understanding, please
either seriously learn about the product
 
 
 I'm not spreading unfounded FUD - I've looked at your product in fair
 depth.  I'm not going to delve into a technical discussion of its
 mechanics, but I've examined them in detail.
 
 I've been using Plum since the first public beta.  I haven't done
 anything terribly complicated with it, but I've built some basic CRUD
 and master/detail applications with verity searching, and played with
 content management, which is what I imagine most Plum users would find
 to be about their extend of its use.
 
 
Try not to prejudice others who haven't even looked yet.
 
 
 Anyone who puts a product into the open marketplace must expect find
 opinions contrary their own marketing.   As some say, any publicity
 is good publicity.
 
 As I said earlier, I can see Plum being useful for basic, CRUD
 applications.  And I can.  It's mind-numbingly easy to create simple
 or master/detail CRUD app.  However, what I think is missing is a
 plug-in point where I can add business logic to my business units
 without having to continually reinvent the wheel.  I really think Plum
 could be quite powerful if it looked into using CFC-based
 representations of the tables it acted upon.
 
 This is a complete aside, but shouldn't the owner of generated code
 be the developer using it?  As it is, every generated page comes out
 This code is Copyright (c) 2004 by Productivity Enhancement, Inc. 
 I'm not sure if you meant to do this, but the legal implications of
 this are enough to bar me from commercial use.
 
 With respect,
 
 Joe
 
 

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Re: Plum vs Adalon?

2005-02-17 Thread Spike
 
 
 The question is not being in favor or not. The question is that the approach 
 claims
 it will make the application easier to follow, and I find the application 
 much harder to follow.
 Ok, it is because the FB application was not properly structured, but isn't 
 FB supposed
 to precisely make the application easier to structure ?
 Ok, the FB progammer was dumb? But isn't FB supposed to make the task 
 easier for programers?
 I don't know what failed, only what I can say from the result is that, in 
 that particular case, 
 it is a failure. 
 

I don't know that Fusebox necessarily makes any claims about making the 
application easier for the uninitiated to follow. From the fusebox.org site:

the system addresses development problems such as unmanageable 
complexity, wasteful redundancy of effort, time-consuming code 
maintenance, and slow development speed. 

I'm not a fusebox zealot, but I think it does achieve those goals when 
used properly. Like any tool, in the hands of someone who doesn't know 
what they're doing it can just add an extra layer of indirection making 
it harder to follow the code. The same is true of any structured 
approach, not just Fusebox.

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Re: Holy Security

2005-02-15 Thread Spike
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 Spike wrote:
 
Not to mention the fact that a lot of the exploits that are discovered 
in open source software may well have a directly comparable exploit in 
closed source software if the mechanism of failure is a non-obvious one 
in an otherwise typical code construct.
 
 
 You mean like the integer overflows that made non priviledge 
 separated OpenSSH rootable a few years ago. Sure, the patch was 
 out before the exploit was out. But did anybody take a step back, 
 said wow, this is a whole new type of overflow and then audited 
 the entire codebase for that type of overflow?

That's exactly my point. Almost certainly nobody audited their codebase 
for either closed or open source projects, but anyone who wanted to 
craft an exploit could have easily added it to their box of tricks. If 
the exploit was discovered in a closed source project, that information 
may very well have never made it outside the confines of the project.

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Re: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

2005-02-14 Thread Spike
FYI,

The smart quotes are not limited to Mac only.

There's a useful reference page about them and other high ascii 
characters here:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/%7Ejkorpela/www/windows-chars.html#list

For the project I'm working on at the minute I have customized jTidy to 
take care of these and emit the correct HTML entity codes in the 
generated HTML.

By default jTidy replaces the high ascii values with HTML entities, but 
the resulting output fails XHTML strict validation. I don't remember off 
the top of my head exactly what jTidy outputs, but the entities on the 
page linked above pass the validation test.

Spike

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 Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 09:51 am
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes
 
 Hi Talk,
 
 I figured out that the smart quotes have a very high ASCII code.  Here's
 what I did to remove them:
 
 function RemoveSmartQuotes (st) {
   st = replace(st, chr(8220), chr(34), all);
   st = replace(st, chr(8221), chr(34), all);
   st = replace(st, chr(8216), chr(39), all);
   st = replace(st, chr(8217), chr(39), all);
   
   return st;
 }
 
 
 I thought you'd like to know.
 
 - Matt Small
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: What do you use for project management?

2005-02-14 Thread Spike
I have used quite a few different solutions in the past, but I generally 
find my self eventually orbiting around some sort of Excel spreadsheet. 
I've never found one that worked exactly the way I wanted it to, but 
I've never found a custom solution that gave me all the flexibility and 
customiziation that projects tend to throw at me.

I'm a one man shop though, so I haven't looked into  systems because 
I can't justify the cost.

I have toyed with the idea of writing one myself, and if I get the time 
and motivation I may still do that.

Spike

Will Tomlinson wrote:
 Just wanted to get an idea of what tools everyone use for project management. 
   I've been looking at Traxtime for managing labor costs. 
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Holy Security

2005-02-14 Thread Spike
Not to mention the fact that a lot of the exploits that are discovered 
in open source software may well have a directly comparable exploit in 
closed source software if the mechanism of failure is a non-obvious one 
in an otherwise typical code construct.

Since most of the bug reports for open source software are easily 
accessible on the web, that probably makes it easier to design exploit 
attempts for closed source software.

Spike

Jon Austin wrote:
 Well, the Linux kernel for one is pretty heavily peer-reviewed. And
 thats even before it gets committed to the source tree, which largely
 is a final process overseen by Linus. So the kernel code is VERY
 heavily reviewed.
 
 Look at the bugtraq mailing list. There are tonnes of people who are 
 
 a) discovering a flaw in an open source package, either by installing
 and mucking around, or testing it specifically for vulnerabilities
 (passing some sort of internal QA procedures).
 
 b) reporting the flaws to the package authors, sometimes including a patch! 
 
 c) the author releases a fix before the vulnerability has been
 exploited in the wild and the discoverer gets to claim some street
 cred for finding it.
 
 In the last 24-48 hours..
 
 http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2005/Feb/1013078.html
 ht://dig has a cross site scripting hole from unfiltered input.
 
 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2005-02/msg00049.php
 pgSQL has multiple buffer overruns. This was discovered by a fellow
 developer, unfortunately after the code had been released.
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280664
 Malicios code can meddle with your Firefox settings. See the work-flow
 here how a patch was submitted, it was reviewed, super-reviewed then
 approved. Then someone checked it into the various branches of the
 project, make it a retrospective fix?
 
 It is virtually impossible to write 100% flawless software on a
 project of considerable size. I would however, have the code out there
 for the world to see and have independent objective reviews of it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jon
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:40:40 +0100, Jochem van Dieten
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Do you know anyone that analyzes the quality of other peoples
open source code? Anyone?
 
 
 

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Re: cfeclipse

2005-01-30 Thread Spike
I can't answer for the Eclipse project itself, but we plan to support 
FTP and SFTP through something similar to the existing Navigator view.

The basic idea being that you can right-click on a file and folder and 
choose get/put/synchronize. When you choose one of those options you are 
presented with a dialog box that allows you to specify the FTP server 
and relative path details. If you have previously performed an FTP 
operation on that file/folder, or one of it's ancestors in the project 
tree, those details will be prefilled in the dialog. We might also keep 
a history of FTP connections  per tree location so you can choose push 
to a staging server or to a live server for example without having to 
remember and type in the connection details for each.

Spike

Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
There is no way to use RDS (if that's what you need). To use FTP with
the stable version you can import and export projects (you may
have to get the FTP and WebDav plugin -  HelpSoftware UpdatesFind
and Install... and look in the Eclipse.org bookmark).

If you are using the non-stable you can use the file explorer view
to edit remote ftp files, but you can not create / delete remote files
yet.

Right now, for the sites I have to upload, I code local and then use
Ant or Fugu (a separate tool) to upload them - I consider it to be
better practice to code local and only upload when done, but I know
reality is not always that kind.

So - long way around - if you're not using FTP you can't
 
 
 Thanks Rob.
 
 No RDS desires here... only FTP :-)
 I will check into the FTP options..
 
 What are the long terms plans for remote file support in eclipse, any idea?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Portable CFML Development Environment

2005-01-21 Thread Spike
 
 Now, MACROMEDIA, GIVE ME A LINUX PORT OF DW and HS+!!!
 
 Or, please, at least enough of the core libraries to launch an
 opensource project?
 
 Please?
 

But there already is an open source IDE that will run on Windows, OS X 
and Linux, and has a footprint in the 14Mb range.

http://www.beynon.org.uk/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=EFEEB02C-3FFB-32D3-59044E3B87AB244A

:)

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
Hi Dwayne,

Yes, you can just extract the zip from Robs site over the top of an 
existing Eclipse install and all should be well.

Spike


Dwayne Cole wrote:
 I already have CFeclipse, thus Eclipse (only the required items, what ever 
 this means), installed.  Can I download your version and just install over 
 the one that I have?
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Date:  Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:08:18 -0800
 
 
If you were thinking about trying cfeclpse, but didn't want to mess
with the plugin hunt, you can now try it out by just downloading the
files from my blog, unzip them, then run the Eclipse executable in the
cfeclipse.X directory.

There are now packages available for MacOSX, Linux, and the other one
- weighing in at about 34MB

The packages include: 
Eclipse3.1M4 - for Mac OSX  and Linux - Eclipse 3.0 for the other one
cfeclipse 1.1.17.2
PHPEclipse 1.1.2
Quantum244_3 
JSEditor 0.0.9
CSSEditor 0.0.4
JDBC drivers for JTDS (MSSQL), Postgres, MySql

They support CVS and Subversion version systems.

You can download them here http://www.robrohan.com/ on the right under 
eclipse.X

Cheers, and let us know how it goes

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList

Top of that page - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spike

Damien McKenna wrote:
 A _huge_ thanks, Rob.
 
 As has been mentioned before, any chance of setting up an announcements
 mailing list so we can keep up-to-date with changes?
 

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
Rob Munn wrote:
 Cool.
*snip*
 One other thing, more a OT question about Eclipse maybe. In HS+ you can
 write Windows Script Host scripts and tie them into the IDE using shortcuts,
 etc. I have one that I use to insert a comment with my initials and the
 date. How would I go about re-creating something like that? I'd write a
 bunch of stuff in it if it was quick enough to do, something like WSH. Is
 there a JS interpreter in Eclipse?
 

We have talked about this in the past and the most likely approach will 
be to use something like BSF (http://jakarta.apache.org/bsf/). No 
specific plans on how soon we'll get onto it, but anyone's welcome to 
pull the source code for cfeclipse down and get stuck in. :)


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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
Just downloaded and extracted it fine from here.

I'm guessing that you're having some sort of proxy caching issues.

You might be able to force it to grab the latest version by adding a 
random URL variable:

http://www.robrohan.com/blog/assets/cfeclipseXP_0.1.zip?foo=bar

Spike


Stan Winchester wrote:
 I'm getting a file check error when I try to unzip the Windows version. 
 Message: The computed CRC doesn't match the CRC recorded in the archive 
 I've deleted the file re-downloaded 3-times and still get the same error.
 
 
If you were thinking about trying cfeclpse, but didn't want to mess
with the plugin hunt, you can now try it out by just downloading the
files from my blog, unzip them, then run the Eclipse executable in the
cfeclipse.X directory.

There are now packages available for MacOSX, Linux, and the other one
- weighing in at about 34MB

The packages include: 
Eclipse3.1M4 - for Mac OSX  and Linux - Eclipse 3.0 for the other one
cfeclipse 1.1.17.2
PHPEclipse 1.1.2
Quantum244_3 
JSEditor 0.0.9
CSSEditor 0.0.4
JDBC drivers for JTDS (MSSQL), Postgres, MySql

They support CVS and Subversion version systems.

You can download them here http://www.robrohan.com/ on the right under 
eclipse.X

Cheers, and let us know how it goes

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
I've put up a copy at:

http://www.spike.org.uk/tmp/cfeclipse_bundle.zip

Let me know if that one works.

If not, I'll try re-zipping it with a different level of compression.

Spike

Stan Winchester wrote:
 I'm still getting the same error with the random URL variable.
 
 
Just downloaded and extracted it fine from here.

I'm guessing that you're having some sort of proxy caching issues.

You might be able to force it to grab the latest version by adding a 
random URL variable:

http://www.robrohan.com/blog/assets/cfeclipseXP_0.1.zip?foo=bar

Spike


Stan Winchester wrote:

 
 

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
ok,

I used 7-zip (http://www.7-zip.org/) to create it and told it to use zip 
format and maximum compression. It could be that the XP default unzipper 
doesn't handle very high compression ratios too well. I did test that on 
my machine, but it could be that the 7-zip libraries are used instead of 
the default windows ones.

In any case, if you are able to, I'd suggest installing 7-zip. It's 
free, suppports multiple zip formats and is way faster for zipping and 
unzipping.

If more people are having the same issue I'll put up another one with 
less aggressive compression.

Spike

Paul wrote:
 -Original Message-
 
What unzipping program are you using?
 
 
 I experimented; it doesn't work using the built-in winXP zip utility, but
 winzip didn't complain at all.
 
 
 

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
Hi Dave,

I think you might have got your wires crossed.

This is a bundled package including Eclipse, cfeclipse, phpeclipse and a 
few other generally useful plugins.

A new nightly build of cfeclipse should be available in the next week or so.

Spike

Dave Merrill wrote:
 Um, I downloaded this, no problem unzipping, but it appears to contain an
 entire eclipse install, some 43M+, with phpeclipse and not cfeclipse.
 
 Wasn't this supposed to be an update of cfeclipse, only?
 
 Have I fallen through into some alternate reality?
 
 Dave Merrill
 
 
 
I've put up a copy at:

http://www.spike.org.uk/tmp/cfeclipse_bundle.zip

Let me know if that one works.

If not, I'll try re-zipping it with a different level of compression.

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Re: CFEclipse Stuido (for lack of a better term)

2005-01-17 Thread Spike
Excellent!

Feel free to fire me questions off list any time you like.

I'd suggest taking a look at a few of the articles on 
http://www.eclipse.org and getting familiar with the general 
architecture. Once you've done that, go right ahead and grab the source 
code from CVS. If there's a bug or feature you'd like to work on give us 
a heads up first and we'll see if anyone's already done anything.

Same goes for anyone else who's interested.

Spike

Robert Munn wrote:
 I am very tempted to get involved, but I will be the first to admit that 
 desktop Java development is not my forte and I have very little real 
 knowledge of the Eclipse platform. However, my company uses Eclipse as both 
 an IDE and a client platform for our products, so I have every motivation to 
 get involved. I am going to check out what is involved. No committment yet, 
 but I'm interested.
 
 
Is
there a JS interpreter in Eclipse?


We have talked about this in the past and the most likely approach will 
be to use something like BSF (http://jakarta.apache.org/bsf/). No 
specific plans on how soon we'll get onto it, but anyone's welcome to 
pull the source code for cfeclipse down and get stuck in. :)


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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
Robert Munn wrote:
 Spike,
 
 Glad to see you are actively soliciting input. Here's my list:
 
 - A good data browser. Sean suggested DBEdit, I'll have a look at it. 

There are quite a few out there. I've used Quantum and JFaceDBC. Both 
did all I needed, but I found setting up drivers a bit of a pain, so I'm 
always looking for better alternatives to point people to. I currently 
use Quantum.

 
 - Multiple file/folder panes. Maybe I'm lazy but I find the two file/folder 
 pane feature of HS+ to be really convenient. That was such a big deal when it 
 was added to HS+.

We have talked about this and we're still looking for use cases to see 
exactly how people currently use it. It could very well be that we can 
do something better by adding features to a single view. The most common 
use case is people wanting to keep track of where they are in the file 
system when working with multiple files. We already have a right-click 
menu option that allows you to find the current file in either the 
navigator view or the file explorer view.

What do you use the multiple views for?

 
 - Split file/folder panes. Possible with CFE today? The DW layout really bugs 
 me, and personally I think it represents very poor usability. Here we spend 
 all this time learning to build usable Web sites that don't scroll, and we 
 end up with an IDE with endless scrolling. It would be really cool if the 
 panes were detachable. 
 

We already have split file/folder in the file explorer view and we plan 
to create a new project navigator view that can work this way as well as 
having ftp support in the context menu.

 - VSS integration

There is a VSS plugin available here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/vssplugin/

I don't use VSS, so I can't comment on whether it's any good or not.

Have you tried it?

 
 - Something like the Tag Inspector pane in HS+. I don't use it all THAT 
 often, but I find it comes in really handy on occasion, especially when 
 looking at someone else's code. 

We have an Outline view that does something similar to the Tag 
Inspector. We could certainly expand it to cover some more of the 
feature set of the Tag Inspector if enough people want it.

 
 - The current top 10 on CFEclipse look good,although I would have put the CFC 
 thing lower given that the server can do that already.

ok.

 
 Most of all, above everything else, I would like a system that is well 
 documented and comes with an easy-to-install, well understood baseline 
 package. I have downloaded and setup Eclipse on a bunch of machines, and yet 
 I just downloaded it (3.01) to install on my laptop and I got a JVM 
 terminated. Exit code=1 error. I have no idea what that means and I'm not 
 inclined to look right now. I need a package I can download that will just 
 work when I install it. 
 

That's a pretty reasonable request and we've been chatting about 
providing a packaged solution.

I presume by now you've seen Rob's blog:

http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=14994065-D86C-DE08-A0395AD015D50C8B

We're also working on the documentation and troubleshooting side of things.

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Re: Combined version of Eclipse + plugins for Windows?

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
I'm working on porting what Rob did right now.

I'm also trimming it down so it should be around 30 Mb when I'm done.

I'll add the svneclipse plugin too.

Spike

Damien McKenna wrote:
 With someone building a combined version of Eclipse with plugins for
 MacOSX, has anyone managed to create an install of Eclipse with the
 following plugins that they'd be willing to share?
 - cfeclipse
 - phpeclipse
 - fusebox4cfe
 - svneclipse
 - a CSS plugin of choice
 - a database plugin of choice with support for MySQL, PostgreSQL and MS
 SQL Server.
  
 That'd be quite, quite cool and would probably get a good many people to
 seriously try Eclipse, I would (again).
  
 PS.  Yes, I'd give Eclipse a go again if someone built this, my reason
 for dropping Eclipse and going back to Homesite was due to plugin
 problems not Eclipse itself.
  
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Re: OT: Suggestion for developers of code editors

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
We have a different solution to this problem in the works.

You will be able to specify on a per-project basis what version of 
ColdFusion server (or BlueDragon for that matter) the code will run on. 
The editor will automatically use the relevant cfml dictionary to check 
syntax.

Spike

Damien McKenna wrote:
 I've got a small suggestion for people who are developing code editors
 or plugins for them (e.g. Eclipse) to cope with specific languages (e.g.
 cfeclipse).  It will be more work but I think it'll be definitely worth
 the hassle.  My idea is to have different releases of your editor /
 plugin for different revisions of the language in question.  An example
 would be having a revision of the syntax highlighting / code insight
 portion of eclipse for different revisions of ColdFusion, that way
 someone with CF5 can have a version tailored to their needs while
 someone with Blackstone can get support for all of the modifications
 along the way.  I guess it might be more useful for PHP where they
 change function syntax a bit more, but still.
  

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Re: Combined version of Eclipse + plugins for Windows?

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
It will have all the plugins listed on Rob's blog entry 
(http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=14994065-D86C-DE08-A0395AD015D50C8B)

and the svneclipse one.

To reduce the size, I removed all plugins that are not explicitly 
required by something.

Spike

Damien McKenna wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I'm working on porting what Rob did right now.
I'm also trimming it down so it should be around 30 Mb when I'm done.
I'll add the svneclipse plugin too.
 
 
 Awesome, Spike!  What plugins will it have?  What are you able to remove
 to make it so small?
 

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
Robert Munn wrote:
 OK, you have my interest now. I've just spent most of the morning playing 
 around with the configuration on my desktop at work. 

:)

 
 
I've used Quantum and JFaceDBC. Both 

did all I needed, but I found setting up drivers a bit of a pain, so 
I'm 
always looking for better alternatives to point people to. I currently 

use Quantum.
 
 
 I have installed Quantum, I just have the JDBC-ODBC driver installed right 
 now, and it seems to have issues with my current config. I'll play with this 
 later.

ok, let us know if you run into any issues.

 
 
 
- Multiple file/folder panes. Maybe I'm lazy but I find the two 

file/folder pane feature of HS+ to be really convenient. That was such 
a big deal when it was added to HS+.

We have talked about this and we're still looking for use cases to see 

exactly how people currently use it. It could very well be that we can 

do something better by adding features to a single view. The most 
common 
use case is people wanting to keep track of where they are in the file 

system when working with multiple files. We already have a right-click 

menu option that allows you to find the current file in either the 
navigator view or the file explorer view.

What do you use the multiple views for?
 
 
 I use multiple panes for a variety of things, but here are a couple of 
 examples:
 
 - I'm writing a bit of code and I need a function that I know I have written 
 before or that I have sitting around somewhere. I normally work in the 
 Project pane, so I can use a File pane to go look for the file that has the 
 function I need and I don't have to lose my place in my project. 

Currently (In the latest nightly builds that is) you can right-click in 
the editor and choose locate in Navigator View or Locate in File 
Explorer view.

Does that provide an acceptable alternative to having multiple views?

 
 - Similar to above, I want to use a custom tag/UDF, etc. and I don't remember 
 its structure. Over to the File pane to find it. 

I can see the sense in this, but again, right-click to find the current 
file in either navigator view or file explorer view will allow you to 
quickly jump around in the file system without needing a second view.

The only case I can think of that it wouldn't solve is if you were 
creating links to files in your code (cfinclude, img, href, link for 
example) and you couldn't remember the name of the files you were 
linking to. Going back and forth would definitely be easier with a 
second file view, but I'm inclined to think that we could probably solve 
that one more elegantly anyhow.

 
 - This one is more administrative. I want to look at something in another 
 system, say a test or production environments, or someone else's working 
 project, without losing my place in the current project. Not that I can't 
 find my way back :-), but it saves mouse clicks. 

Sounds like the right-click option would solve this one too.

 
 I have been thinking for awhile that there is no good configuration 
 management tool for dev/test/production web apps in CF. I use the Archive and 
 Deploy features in CF Admin, but there are limits to what it can do. You 
 can't build an archive on one system and deploy it to another from a single 
 interface, for instance. That whole thing is really a separate project from a 
 CF IDE, but it matches the thinking of part of the Eclipse project where 
 people are building administrative tools in the Eclipse platform.

Eclipse SDK comes with ANT which is a very powerful tool for deploying 
to servers.

CF admin configuration is a bit trickier, and I agree that it would be 
good to be able to do this from within Eclipse. Either as part of 
cfeclipse or as a separate plugin.

 
 
- Split file/folder panes. Possible with CFE today? The DW layout 

really bugs me, and personally I think it represents very poor 
usability. Here we spend all this time learning to build usable Web 
sites that don't scroll, and we end up with an IDE with endless 
scrolling. It would be really cool if the panes were detachable. 

We already have split file/folder in the file explorer view and we 
plan 
to create a new project navigator view that can work this way as well 
as 
having ftp support in the context menu.
 
 
 Is the split view feature released? I can't find it, but I'm in the Project 
 Navigator and I have mapped my project to the VSS provider below.

It's in the latest nightly builds, but not in the most recent release.
 
 
- VSS integration

There is a VSS plugin available here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/vssplugin/

I don't use VSS, so I can't comment on whether it's any good or not.

Have you tried it?
 
 
 Now I have, it looks OK. I had to switch to 3.1 M3 to get it to work, and now 
 the JS editor and CSS Editor aren't working.

I'm not sure if a lot of the plugins will work with theh 3.1 builds. I'm 
running 3.01 here.

Did you try the vss plugin on 3.0x?

 
 
We have an Outline view that does something 

Re: OT: Suggestion for developers of code editors

2005-01-14 Thread Spike
The new partitioner is almost done, but there are still scenarios where 
it fails to correctly partition the document. I should have it working 
by early next week, then I'll need to release a debug build so people 
can test it out and see how many other things are broken as a result of 
the change.

Initial testing indicates that not too much stuff is badly broken 
because the partitioning wasn't actually being used to it's full extent.

Spike

Mark Drew wrote:
 whens the parser going to be ready? are we there yet? Suzy keeps
 hitting me! are we there yet?
 
 Sorry, impacience getting to me :)
 
 MD
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:44:16 -0800, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
We have a different solution to this problem in the works.

You will be able to specify on a per-project basis what version of
ColdFusion server (or BlueDragon for that matter) the code will run on.
The editor will automatically use the relevant cfml dictionary to check
syntax.

Spike

Damien McKenna wrote:

I've got a small suggestion for people who are developing code editors
or plugins for them (e.g. Eclipse) to cope with specific languages (e.g.
cfeclipse).  It will be more work but I think it'll be definitely worth
the hassle.  My idea is to have different releases of your editor /
plugin for different revisions of the language in question.  An example
would be having a revision of the syntax highlighting / code insight
portion of eclipse for different revisions of ColdFusion, that way
someone with CF5 can have a version tailored to their needs while
someone with Blackstone can get support for all of the modifications
along the way.  I guess it might be more useful for PHP where they
change function syntax a bit more, but still.


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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
Damien McKenna wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I'm not sure what you mean.
What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
 
 
 The software updates system.

ok, thanks. That makes sense now.

 
 
Anything we can do to make cfeclipse easier to work with is 
of interest,
 
 
 CFEclipse isn't the problem in this case, phpeclipse is.  Though it'd be
 nice to be able to /easily/ upgrade from the stable to the bleedingedge
 versions via the same mechanism.
 

We do plan to start putting out a bleeding edge version via the 
auto-update mechanism. No specifics on that just yet until the impact 
has been investigated fully though. The last thing we would want is 
everyone being prompted to install the latest bleeding edge version 
every time they started up Eclipse. Bleeding edge stuff is always going 
to be somewhat buggy and unstable, so the expectation is that the 
majority of people will avoid it for day to day work.

What issues did you run into with phpeclipse?

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
To be honest I'm not totally sure how the software update mechanism 
works either. There are a few possibilities, but we want to make sure we 
get it right so it doesn't screw up anyone's machine.

Spike

Munson, Jacob wrote:
 I don't know much about how the software updates stuff works, but couldn't 
 you have a separate 'channel' for bleeding edge?  Then only the people that 
 wanted it would be notified.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
 
 
 Damien McKenna wrote:
 
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I'm not sure what you mean.
What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?


The software updates system.
 
 
 ok, thanks. That makes sense now.
 
 

Anything we can do to make cfeclipse easier to work with is 
of interest,


CFEclipse isn't the problem in this case, phpeclipse is.  Though it'd be
nice to be able to /easily/ upgrade from the stable to the bleedingedge
versions via the same mechanism.

 
 
 We do plan to start putting out a bleeding edge version via the 
 auto-update mechanism. No specifics on that just yet until the impact 
 has been investigated fully though. The last thing we would want is 
 everyone being prompted to install the latest bleeding edge version 
 every time they started up Eclipse. Bleeding edge stuff is always going 
 to be somewhat buggy and unstable, so the expectation is that the 
 majority of people will avoid it for day to day work.
 
 What issues did you run into with phpeclipse?
 
 Spike

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
I hope it isn't too annoying :-/

There are instructions on how to download and build it on Nathan 
Strutz's resource page here:

http://www.dopefly.com/pages/cfeclipse.cfm

I'm also working on a Captivate demo on how to do this.

Be warned though that the latest stuff in CVS isn't necessarily the best 
thing to be using. Right now the latest stuff in CVS has a fairly major 
bug that will pretty much stop cfeclipse being usable. I'm working on 
fixing it between writing emails at the minute.

Spike


Russ wrote:
 Yea, it's really annoying having to wait for spike to build the latest
 CFEclipse.  I would like to be able to grab the bleeding age version and
 have it install automatically through the updater, or at least have some
 instructions posted on how to compile it ourselves. 
 
 Russ
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I'm not sure what you mean.
What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
 
 
 The software updates system.
 
 
Anything we can do to make cfeclipse easier to work with is 
of interest,
 
 
 CFEclipse isn't the problem in this case, phpeclipse is.  Though it'd be
 nice to be able to /easily/ upgrade from the stable to the bleedingedge
 versions via the same mechanism.
 

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
Hi Robert,

Can you give some more details on what would need to mature in cfeclipse 
before you would switch to it?

Spike

Robert Munn wrote:
 Homesite+ is legacy code, a Windows-only IDE. Supporting CFEclipse or 
 DreamWeaver enhancements to add in the features that you like about HS+ is a 
 more realistic goal, IMHO. I like HS+, but it no longer makes sense to 
 support platform-dependent environments. I'd love to use Linux as my desktop 
 OS for development, but I'm still hooked into HS+ until CFE matures or 
 someone else comes along with another product. 
 
 I think it's a worthy goal to work on stuff like syntax highlighters for HS+, 
 but what is the size of the audience for something like PHP support in HS+? I 
 just don't think you'll get any traction.
 
 
Would it be worthwhile starting a Sourceforge project to promote
Homesite and to centralize development of Homesite enhancements?

I'm personally sick of Dreamweaver, I don't really like Eclipse (it
isn't helped by some plugin developers not hosting their files
correctly) and don't like any of the tonnes of other HTML editors out
there.  So I'm back to Homesite but need some improvements in its
handling of XHTML, PHP, CFML, etc.  A Sourceforge project where everyone
could contribute in a centralized location would reduce duplicate
efforts (only need one PHP syntax highlighter, etc) and give people a
one-stop-shop for what they needed.

So, what do y'all thing?  Would it be worth my time trying this?

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
You can't assign keyboard shortcuts to snippets in exactly the same way 
as you can in Homesite, but you can do something that is potentially 
much more powerful.

For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as 
cff for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that 
trigger followed by ctrl+i it will insert the snippet and prompt you for 
any custom snippet variables in the snippet. You can configure a 
different shortcut to use instead of ctrl+i.

The reason that this is much more powerful is that it allows you to have 
an infinite number of snippets assigned to shortcuts without having to 
sacrifice existing keyboard shortcuts. It does require typing an extra 
character or two, so your mileage may vary.

Spike

Paul Malan wrote:
 I was ready to make the switch from HS+ to CFE until I saw an
 enhancement request on Tigris that led me to believe you can't assign
 your own keyboard shortcuts to tags and snippets.  That alone was
 enough for me to snuggle back up with Homesite+...
 
 
 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:23:21 -0400, Stan Winchester
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I would like to be able to right click on tags to open a tag editor like
in HS.

It would be nice if HS/CF Studio snippets could be imported.


Hi Robert,

Can you give some more details on what would need to mature in cfeclipse
before you would switch to it?

Spike

Robert Munn wrote:


 
 

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
The problem that we ran into with this was that Eclipse requires you to 
have a Java class that gets called for each keyboard shortcut. That 
makes it kinda tricky to allow you to assign any keyboard shortcut to 
any arbitrary action since the class would have to be generated on the 
fly. Either that or we'd have to rewrite a fairly significant chunk of 
the keyboard shortcut handling in Eclipse.

Neither of those options was particularly appealing, so we went with the 
trigger text idea.

Spike

Paul Malan wrote:
For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
cff for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that
trigger followed by ctrl+i it will insert the snippet and prompt you for
any custom snippet variables in the snippet. You can configure a
different shortcut to use instead of ctrl+i.
 
 
 That's something I could probably adapt to...  Are there plans to
 adopt assignable keyboard shortcuts in future versions, or will these
 trigger characters be the only available functionality long term?
 
 

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Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?

2005-01-13 Thread Spike
If you want to insert a snippet wrapped around some text you can browse 
to the snippet you want in the snippets view, select the text you want 
to wrap, and double-click on the snippet you want to insert.

You can't insert snippets via a keyboard shortcut, but we could probably 
figure out a way to make that work. One possibility being if you have 
something selected and type ctrl+i it pops up a dialog asking you for 
the trigger text for the snippet to insert. There are other ways we 
could do it, but that's one that springs to mind.

Spike

Calvin Ward wrote:
 I have to agree with Spike, it sounds like trigger text is far more flexible
 and powerful than just snippets with shortcuts.
 
 Having said that, what about wraparound snippets?
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Malan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:16 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
 
 
For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
cff for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that
trigger followed by ctrl+i it will insert the snippet and prompt you for
any custom snippet variables in the snippet. You can configure a
different shortcut to use instead of ctrl+i.
 
 
 That's something I could probably adapt to...  Are there plans to
 adopt assignable keyboard shortcuts in future versions, or will these
 trigger characters be the only available functionality long term?
 
 
 
 

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Re: Restart CF via CFEXECUTE calling a batch file?

2005-01-05 Thread Spike
The problem is most likely that once the CF server stops, the thread 
that called the batch file also dies and so does the batch job.

The simple way around it is to have the CFM page call at.exe and set up 
a scheduled job to run your batch file. I think you have to set it to 
run 1 minute in the future to make sure it works, but that's the basic 
principle.

Spike

Matt Robertson wrote:
 So I am having some trouble with one of my servers, and, as an
 emergency measure,  wanted to come up with a way to restart CF 6.1 via
 a web-based file I can call from a browser.
 
 So I wrote a little file that uses CFEXECUTE to call a batch file that
 in turn issues a NET STOP of the CF service, followed by a NET START. 
  Seemed simple enough.
 
 Only trouble is that only the NET STOP runs.  It does a great job of
 killing the service but for some reason the batch file doesn't finish
 executing.
 
 Other than trying to do this in the first place, where did I go wrong?
 alternatives?
 
 the call: 
 
 cfexecute 
name=z:\foo\ReCF.bat
timeout=10
 /cfexecute
 
 and the batch file (not using the ODBC services):
 
 @echo on
 net stop ColdFusion MX Application Server
 net start ColdFusion MX Application Server
 

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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Spike
Are there any plans to make this alternative available through the 
Macromedia online store?

As a general rule I'd rather chew off my right arm than deal with sales 
people.

Spike

Sean Corfield wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:03:41 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
How about a quick and dirty answer for the question that is forefront
in my mind, and probably a lot of other people as well:
 
 
 This should answer most questions:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/faq_eol.html
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/productinfo/buy/volume_license.html
 
 
Perhaps a FAQ page on macromedia.com would be better?
 
 
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Re: Typesafe enum design pattern (another go)

2005-01-03 Thread Spike
That's pretty much all we can discuss unless you lay out the problem 
that you're trying to solve.

If you explain exactly what it is you're trying to do and why you're 
using the pattern it should be possible to say whether you're 
implementing it the right way.

I think that's the point Barney was making.

Spike

Taco Fleur wrote:
 Ok, so are we discussing how to implement the design pattern specific for
 ColdFusion or will we just keep discussing the discussion itself?
 
 

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Re: Typesafe enum design pattern (another go)

2005-01-03 Thread Spike
That's not describing the problem. It's describing a solution.

Why do you need constants?

Why do you need them to be in a class/cfc?

Why do you not want the public to be able to modify any data and who do 
you define as the public?

Why do you need to be able to loop over the constants?

Spike

Taco Fleur wrote:
 The problem:
 
 I need a class that represents constants
 I don't want the public to be able to modify any data
 I need to be able to loop over the constants easily
 
 Basically quoting what problems the pattern solves.. 
 
 

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Re: Typesafe enum design pattern (another go)

2005-01-03 Thread Spike
I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with the code below.

Can you provide some explanation of the thinking behind it?

Spike

Taco Fleur wrote:
The first problem is that in the Java world the constructor is declared as
 
 private so you can't create an instance of the class. You can't do that in
 CF.
 
 Exactly, I have been thinking about that, how about the following?
 
 cfcomponent
 
   cfset main() /
 
   cffunction 
   name=main 
   access=private 
   returntype=string 
   output=true
   /cffunction
 
   cffunction 
   name=init 
   access=public 
   returntype=any 
   output=true
   cfreturn this /
   /cffunction
 
 /cfcomponent 
 
 

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Re: Slow (sorta) site issues - Ideas?

2004-12-28 Thread Spike
Have you thought about using a web cache system like Coral?

http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/

If you set the no-cache http header to true it caches pages for 5 
minutes before requesting a new copy. With a bit of experimentation it 
should be possible to track the user agent their bot uses and set the 
no-cache header only for that.

You'd probably have to do a bit of testing to make sure searches hit 
your site directly rather than the coral cache, but it might be worth a try.

Spike


Jim Davis wrote:
 I've a site that while not slow, is most likely not going to take the traffic 
 it's facing.  The site is www.firstnight.org - it will get absolutely pounded 
 on New Year's Eve.
 
 Since this will be the warnest New Year's Eve in recent memory AND is a 
 weekend AND is a holiday for nearly everybody now I fully expect this to be 
 one of the busiest years ever.
 
 Unfortunately we're still a non-profit.  We can't afford the kind of iron 
 that this kind of traffic would require for only one or two days a year. 
 Right now we're on a shared hosting plan at CrystalTech which we nearly 
 overran last year.
 
 I'm just going through and looking for savings here.
 
 1) An average page runs anywhere from 80-300 ticks.  I plan to address some 
 of that by caching the navigation HTML (right now it's dynamically generated 
 from a cached CFC).
 
 What do you think?  Too high?  Way too high?  Way, way too high?
 
 Many of the pages are quite large and complex (for example the All Events 
 list here:  
 http://www.firstnight.org/Content/NewYears/Artists/Explore/Events.cfm?Type=All
  ) but it's exactly those pages that are the most popular.
 
 As an aside, you can see the current number of active sessions and the 
 current page's tick count at the bottom of any page.
 
 2) My session manager is worrying me.  The site doesn't use CFs built in 
 Session management.  This allows me to capture user information at the end of 
 a session, but means that I have to manually check and destroy sessions.  
 When a session ends it's saved in a database along with the pages viewed 
 during the visit, information about the user agent and several other things.
 
 This process requires several database calls (perhaps a minimum of 8, but a 
 maximum determined by the number of pages visited) and averages in the range 
 of 40-80 ticks per session cleaned.
 
 That would be fine, except I may be cleaning several thousand sessions at a 
 shot on the 31st.  The system is SQL Server and I've optimized it about as 
 much as I know how (there are indexes on the major columns, I've cleaned out 
 all unneeded data, etc).
 
 Any thoughts on using multiple CFQuery statements vrs one more complex SQL 
 call?  Right now, for example, I make a call to the DB to see if the session 
 already exists, if it does I do an update, if not I do an insert.
 
 Could it actually be faster to do an IF statement in the SQL using only one 
 CFQUERY tag?  It seems to me that with maintain connections on this 
 wouldn't make a difference... but I'm not sure (and want to use the time I've 
 left wisely).
 
 I am using CFQUERYPARAM and caching what queries make sense.
 
 
 Some other thoughts:
 
 I've actually considered placing some of the site on another CrystalTech 
 account (on a different server of course) and using redirects to move the 
 traffic off.  Of course there's no way I could get the URLs to stay the same 
 (outside of frames) and I wouldn't want it there all the time - just for a 
 day or two.
 
 It would also royally screw up my log statistics.
 
 Any other ideas for kludgy, cheap load balancing?
 
 I can easily turn off the end-of-session handlers.  I know that this process 
 will take a while, but I'm not sure if it's really the performance hog that I 
 fear.  It is, after all, spending nearly all of it's time waiting for the 
 database - sitting effectly idle.  So what if the clean up process takes two 
 minutes if the thread isn't dominating the CPU?  (I will also decrease the 
 number of clean-ups to one every 15 minutes or so in an attempt to clear out 
 old sessions as quickly as possible.)
 
 Many (sometimes VERY many) of the sessions in memory are generated from bots. 
  I'm considering creating a ROBOTS.TXT that would prevent bots from indexing 
 the site for our busy time, but I fear that would inhibit them more than I 
 want - if you tell robot's to bugger off do they come back?
 
 I'm open to any other ideas.  My gut says that with the resources we have 
 we'll just have to live with overloads unless they want to create a much 
 simpler site (and they don't want to do that).
 
 Anybody got some heavy iron and bandwidth they're willing to donate for three 
 days a year.  ;^)
 
 Sorry for the babbling - I'm entering my normal end-of-year paranoid phase.
 
 Jim Davis
 
 

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Re: CF_HappyHolidays

2004-12-22 Thread Spike
And to you too

http://www.spike.org.uk/funny/12days.cfm

:)

Spike

David Delbridge wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 cfif isdefined('R')
   cfif R = 'C'Merry Christmas!
   cfelseif R = 'J'Happy Hanukkah!
   cfelseif R = 'A'Happy Kwanzaa!
   cfelseif R = 'B'Happy Bodhi Day (belated, sorry)!
   cfelseif R = 'P'Yuletide Greetings!
   /cfif
 cfelse
   Happy Holidays!
 /cfif
 
 Dave
 
 

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Re: CF_HappyHolidays

2004-12-22 Thread Spike
done

Barney Boisvert wrote:
 Need to edit that.  The 25th is the first day of Christmas, and the
 12th day is the 5th of January of the next year (the day before
 Epiphany, which is the 6th).  But funny none the less.
 
 cheers,
 barneyb
 
 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:20:19 -0800, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
And to you too

http://www.spike.org.uk/funny/12days.cfm

:)

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Re: [OT] Eclispe and Java

2004-12-21 Thread Spike
You have a couple of problems with the syntax of your code:

1. You need to declare the greeting array as an array of strings before 
using it:

String[] greeting = new String[2]

2. The syntax of your for loop is invalid. I'd do it like this:


for (int i=0;igreeting.length ; i++) {
   System.out.println(greeting[i]);
}

So the whole thing would be:

*

public class Welcome {

public static void main(String[] args) {
String[] greeting = new String[2]
greeting[0] = Welcome;
greeting[1] = howdy;

for (int i=0;igreeting.length ; i++)
System.out.println(greeting[i]);
}
}


Spike

Critter wrote:
 I am just trying to build a simple class file using eclipse.. but I
 keep getting syntax errors..
 
 public class Welcome {
 
   public static void main(String[] args) {
   greeting[0] = Welcome;
   greeting[1] = howdy;
   
   for (String g : greeting)
   System.out.println(g);
   }
 }
 
 Severity  Description ResourceIn Folder   Location
 Creation Time
 2 Syntax error on token ), invalid
 AssignmentOperatorWelcome.javaWelcome line 20 December 21, 2004
 10:51:12 AM
 2 Syntax error on token(s), misplaced
 construct(s)  Welcome.javaWelcome line 20 December 21, 2004 10:51:12
 AM
 
 i am thinking it has to do with maybe eclipse using the wrong jre...
 but i am not sure.. I've pointed eclipse to use the newer jdk.. (i
 think..) any suggestions?

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Re: [OT] Eclispe and Java

2004-12-21 Thread Spike
ok,

Haven't used JDK 5, so that's very possible.

Spike

Critter wrote:
 yeah... i got the greeting thing...
 
 according to the book i have...
 
 for(String g : greeting)
 is a new JDK 5.0 feature 
 
 rather than the traditional for(i=0...etc..)
 
 
 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:40:07 -0800, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
You have a couple of problems with the syntax of your code:

1. You need to declare the greeting array as an array of strings before
using it:

String[] greeting = new String[2]

2. The syntax of your for loop is invalid. I'd do it like this:


for (int i=0;igreeting.length ; i++) {
   System.out.println(greeting[i]);
}

So the whole thing would be:

*

public class Welcome {

public static void main(String[] args) {
String[] greeting = new String[2]
greeting[0] = Welcome;
greeting[1] = howdy;

for (int i=0;igreeting.length ; i++)
System.out.println(greeting[i]);
}
}


Spike

Critter wrote:

I am just trying to build a simple class file using eclipse.. but I
keep getting syntax errors..

public class Welcome {

  public static void main(String[] args) {
  greeting[0] = Welcome;
  greeting[1] = howdy;

  for (String g : greeting)
  System.out.println(g);
  }
}

Severity  Description ResourceIn Folder   Location   
 Creation Time
2 Syntax error on token ), invalid
AssignmentOperatorWelcome.javaWelcome line 20 December 21, 2004
10:51:12 AM
2 Syntax error on token(s), misplaced
construct(s)  Welcome.javaWelcome line 20 December 21, 2004 10:51:12
AM

i am thinking it has to do with maybe eclipse using the wrong jre...
but i am not sure.. I've pointed eclipse to use the newer jdk.. (i
think..) any suggestions?

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