RE: Big companies using CF
I need to second Larry on this one. We built a site here at Ford that is probably THE most high-profile site on the corporate intranet. This site gets over 30,000 user sessions and 1.2+ million hits a day on average. It runs on NT 4/IIS 4/CF 4.5.1/SQL Server 7. Chris Chris Poterala TEKgroup [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 4:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Benjamin Fitts wrote: Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. Victoria's Secret and AutoByTel don't get a lot of traffic? I don't know how you define a lot of traffic but damn I'd love to get their "not a lot of traffic." ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
What sort of server setup did you have? What OS? Was this a cluster? We had CF4.0 on one machine (Win2K), SQL7 on another Win2K box, and 12 media servers all Win2K. 4 eastern US 2 central US 3 West coast 1 in Australia 1 in Taiwan 1 in western Europe. We had between 20,000-25,000 sessions going at any one time. We were not expecting such an interest. As you can probably tell, this was an internal webcast. We did have some problems, but these were not related to CF. Had more to do with the stream, bandwidth issues. The live media portion of the site had an embedded media player and slides from the presentations were pushed out to the users via an admin interface. We did another one this past Tuesday with the same setup but this one only had ~15,000 users. Tim Bahlke ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Benjamin Fitts wrote: Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. Victoria's Secret and AutoByTel don't get a lot of traffic? I don't know how you define a lot of traffic but damn I'd love to get their "not a lot of traffic." -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
I like the way you duped on some of the entries to make the list look longer g OK, and to put my 2 cents in this... Reed Exhibition Companies UK run all of their sites on CF. Gotta put in my two cents: www.cirrus.com (Yep, Cirrus Logic) www.win2000mag.net (Now this is ironic. The Windows 2000 Magazine Network built on CF!) www2.sys-con.com (Here's another one. The JAVA developer's journal!) www.hitachi.com (Hitachi Corp.) www.nectech.com (NEC, as in monitors) www.stouffers.com (Stouffers. The frozen food company) www.matrox.com (The graphics cards) www.wavetech.com (The IT training guys) www.edmundscientific.com www.ami.com (American Megatrends, Inc.) software.mcafee.com (McAfee Software, the virus scan guys) www.careerbuilder.com (One of the largest job sites) www.buyphilips.com (From WebTV to light bulbs) www.senate.gov/senators www.mbta.com (Mass. Bay Transit Authority) www.nmha.org (The National Mental Health Association) www.crayola.com (You know, the crayons we write with.) www.nikonusa.com (NIKON...The cameras, etc. I think they're kind of big. ;) ) www.bmwusa.com (BMW... Nice cars) www.gomez.com (If he's an online investor, he'll know this one...or should) media.web.aol.com (AOL's press release site) home.verio.net (Verio..One of the big hosting companies) nasatechnology.nasa.gov (NASA site is all done in CF) amd.c-3.com (Advanced Micro Devices) www.onvia.com (If he's in commercial IT, he should know this one.) www.crayola.com (You know, the crayons we write with.) www.nikonusa.com (NIKON...The cameras, etc. I think they're kind of big. ;) ) www.bmwusa.com (BMW... Nice cars) www.gomez.com (If he's an online investor, he'll know this one...or should) media.web.aol.com (AOL's press release site) home.verio.net (Verio..One of the big hosting companies) nasatechnology.nasa.gov (NASA site is all done in CF) amd.c-3.com (Advanced Micro Devices) www.onvia.com (If he's in commercial IT, he should know this one.) These are just a very few. If you go into the popular search engines and search on '.cfm', you'll get tens of thousands of sites writen in CF. Don't forget to mention scalability and speed of development/deployment. Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I did alot of work on the EPA intranet with CF "Janssen Dolores Y (Contractor)" wrote: yes, there are various DoD organzations using CF -- Dee Janssen Web Developer LESCO/LOGSA 256-955-9579 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim Bahlke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF I had Advanced CF training with Dave acouple months ago and there were some DoD people in there. Tim ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Not a big company, but a big site: http://www.mscounties.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
I've been following this thread on big companies using CF for awhile. Sure a lot of big companies use CF. But please think of the type of application they use CF for. Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. Other questions you might want to ask instead of "Which Big Companies use CF" are: What do they use CF for? How much traffic does their site receive? daily, weekly, monthly. How much of that traffic is hitting dynamic CF generated pages? This is a much better benchmark for you to judge Cold Fusion on. A typical example is BMWUSA web site that was mentioned here earlier. I can guarantee you this site isn't getting hit nearly as much as VW's new film web site. Just because BMW is a big name doesn't mean it gets a lot of hits to it's web site. What is a lot of hits? 500,000 unique users a month? 5 million unique users a month? 5 million unique users a day? Benjamin Fitts Web Developer uclick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. Not so sure that's a safe assumption to make. Internal sites are frequently far more data intensive and interactive such that, while actually traffic volume may be lower, the processing load on a server may be far higher than a simple Internet site. I agree with the spcific items you suggested asking about but don't rule out that Intranet/Extranet sites may actually be a better judge of CF's capabilities in some cases. Ken ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
How much traffic does their site receive? daily, weekly, monthly. How much of that traffic is hitting dynamic CF generated pages? This is a much better benchmark for you to judge Cold Fusion on. With a site I developed for Lucent, I had 233,000+ unique users in a 24 hr period. CF had no problems. Tim Bahlke ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
In other words, Everything is relative. Along the same line of reasoning, just because a big company does it. It does not mean it is a good thing. In my experience the exact opposite is true. The bigger the company, the more ineffiecient in my experience. Someone already said this, but I will repeat it. The big difference between CF and ASP is development time and costs. Almost any web application could be developed faster in CF than ASP, and CF has a huge library of built in funtions and free tags that are available. jon - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Fitts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Big companies using CF I've been following this thread on big companies using CF for awhile. Sure a lot of big companies use CF. But please think of the type of application they use CF for. Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. Other questions you might want to ask instead of "Which Big Companies use CF" are: What do they use CF for? How much traffic does their site receive? daily, weekly, monthly. How much of that traffic is hitting dynamic CF generated pages? This is a much better benchmark for you to judge Cold Fusion on. A typical example is BMWUSA web site that was mentioned here earlier. I can guarantee you this site isn't getting hit nearly as much as VW's new film web site. Just because BMW is a big name doesn't mean it gets a lot of hits to it's web site. What is a lot of hits? 500,000 unique users a month? 5 million unique users a month? 5 million unique users a day? Benjamin Fitts Web Developer uclick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
on 8/12/00 5:57 AM, Tim Bahlke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a site I developed for Lucent, I had 233,000+ unique users in a 24 hr period. CF had no problems. What sort of server setup did you have? What OS? Was this a cluster? -- Rob Keniger big bang solutions mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Internal sites and extranets don't get a lot of traffic. This isn't true. I've developed a very encompassing system for a $200M/year company with a network of over 2000 dealers and reps. The internal system gets nearly as much traffic as its web site (both in CF) which is approx. 1M CF page views a month. Not as much traffic as some sites maybe, but still fairly high. A typical example is BMWUSA web site that was mentioned here earlier. I can guarantee you this site isn't getting hit nearly as much as VW's new film web site. Where are the stats on these sites posted? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
http://www.bloomingdales.com - Original Message - From: Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Just to add to Paul's comments..one advantage that CF "currently" has over ASP is portability to other OS's. That can be a big one for a lot of companies. - Original Message - From: Paul Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Big companies using CF snip You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig snip Depends if he's bound and determined to use ASP, or he's open to new ideas. If you can talk to the new guy about CF, you can find better arguments than "whatever.com uses CF". The rapid deployment and easy learning curve of CF is its strongest point, IMHO. I've worked with other big players, in general we add new features and integrations much more quickly than other sites do. A large part of that is that it is simple to change things in CF, easy to read other people's code, easy to find help if you get stuck. Fusebox makes it even easier. ~Paul Paul Huber Web Applications Developer http://www.eBags.com What's your bag? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
We have done work with Lexmark. At 08:13 PM 12/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: I have worked on internal sites for Minolta, TransAmerica Capital, Canon, Dale Carnegie, Xilinx, and Komatsu... Not that most of these companies know that it's Cold Fusion that runs there sites, but they know it works. I think you are going to need a couple pieces of paper for this list :-) jon - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
www.siemens.de and www.siemens.com Intranet/Internet/Extranet Uwe - Original Message - From: "Karen Jefferson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 5:14 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF http://www.bloomingdales.com - Original Message - From: Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Agreed, but while ASP is "free" it says a lot in CF's favour that so many developers prefer to pay the premium. BTW, virgincars.com seems like a pretty big site Tristram Charnley - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If something is hard to do, its not worth doing!" Homer Simpson. -Original Message- From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 December 2000 23:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF ASP isn't all that bad. Although ASP is not as easy as CF, it's language is much cleaner. I have found that CF has irregularities in some of the way coding is done. For example sometimes you need # signs in front of variables, othertimes you don't. In anycase, ASP is "free" with IIS, and if that is all that is available it ain't all that bad actually! At 10:09 AM 12/05/00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
The American Kennel Club has a large website done in CF www.akc.org -- / \__ Frederic Valone (@\___ Webmaster /O American Kennel Club/ (_/ /_/ U ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
You could include the Australian Consumers Association, found at www.choice.com.au. We have a large site built using an ASP publishing system, that handles the daily journalist output and which has been no end of trouble, and an increasing roster of COldFusion components - calculators helping people workout such things as which is the best Travel Insurance Policy for their circumstances, how green is your home (how ecology-sound is your household), how your new car comes out in the ANCAP Crash tests etc. Our experience is the ASP is in theoory extremely flexible, but in practice works fine as long as the same person works on a piece of code all the time. If anyone else gets their sticky fingers into it, it breaks every time. The ColdFusion has been solid and simple to adapt and modify. I intherited the ASP publishing system when i took on the contract there and it doesnt hold a candle to what Spectra delivers out of the box. It is highly unlikely that another ASP publishing system will be implemented whenever we get around to doing a version 2. ACA can be found on the web at www.choice.com.au Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Web Development Windsor, NSW, Australia. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Krispy Kreme uses CF for their extranet. Tim ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
brilliantpeople.com the online job site for Management Recruiters International uses CF. They also use CF for their intranet. It's an extremely large site. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I forgot to mention that in terms of educational sites, The George Washington University uses CF for their distance learning system called Prometheus (in terms of on-line course systems this one is excellent). Also their intranet is based on a large part on CF. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
CF is quickly becoming our main workhorse here at Ohio University! 8-) Dave = "What we need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter" David Hannum Web Analyst/Programmer Ohio University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (740) 597-2524 - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF I forgot to mention that in terms of educational sites, The George Washington University uses CF for their distance learning system called Prometheus (in terms of on-line course systems this one is excellent). Also their intranet is based on a large part on CF. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
At 06:06 PM 12/5/00 -0500, you wrote: ASP isn't all that bad. Although ASP is not as easy as CF, it's language is much cleaner. I have found that CF has irregularities in some of the way coding is done. For example sometimes you need # signs in front of variables, othertimes you don't. In anycase, ASP is "free" with IIS, and if that is all that is available it ain't all that bad actually! Well, you'd like to think ASP is free with IIS and you'd be partly right. Unfortunately the ASP that is free with IIS doesn't include all of the functionality available in ColdFusion and you have to purchase server extensions for that. So it's free if you want only the included functionality and otherwise you ending up paying for it. And it's silly stuff too, like file uploads. I'm not sure how much the server extensions cost (there are apparently a lot of them) but you could theoretically end up paying more for the same functionality. Theoretically. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Not to mention that if you want to run your ASP code on anything other than a Windows machine, you have to buy additional application server software that costs anywhere from $700 - $7,000. Also, the learning curve of ASP is a little higher and so it might cost more to train a new ASP developer. I figure it probably all evens out in the end. My advice would be to learn both if you can. It never hurts. Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Jennifer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF | Well, you'd like to think ASP is free with IIS and you'd be partly right. | Unfortunately the ASP that is free with IIS doesn't include all of the | functionality available in ColdFusion and you have to purchase server | extensions for that. So it's free if you want only the included | functionality and otherwise you ending up paying for it. And it's silly | stuff too, like file uploads. I'm not sure how much the server extensions | cost (there are apparently a lot of them) but you could theoretically end | up paying more for the same functionality. Theoretically. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Hi! Check: www.btc-city.com Bye, Iztok ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
yes, there are various DoD organzations using CF -- Dee Janssen Web Developer LESCO/LOGSA 256-955-9579 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim Bahlke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF I had Advanced CF training with Dave acouple months ago and there were some DoD people in there. Tim ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
I work for Sprint, we use it extensively to watch over the nations phone systems! Misty -Original Message- From: wizaerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:19 PM To: cf-talk Cc: wizaerd Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Not to mention an increase in development time with ASP. My first choice is always CF however, having written what seems like a million lines of code in ASP, I can tell you the time it takes to write will increase. One example is using the cfquery tag. You can do it in 3 lines of code, cfquery, sql statements and ending /cfquery tag. In ASP you have to create the connection object, open the connection database, sql statements, execute and set up your recordset. Even outputting the results is a bit longer. Granted these are small examples but hey they will add up after awhile. I would of course suggest to really fight for keeping CF but it really is nice to know both. Who else will be around to convert them nasty ASP app's? Misty P.S. I recently converted an ASP page from 1248 lines of ASP code down to 890 lines of CF code. I would take CF over ASP any day. -Original Message- From: cf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:30 AM To: cf-talk Cc: cf Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Not to mention that if you want to run your ASP code on anything other than a Windows machine, you have to buy additional application server software that costs anywhere from $700 - $7,000. Also, the learning curve of ASP is a little higher and so it might cost more to train a new ASP developer. I figure it probably all evens out in the end. My advice would be to learn both if you can. It never hurts. Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Jennifer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF | Well, you'd like to think ASP is free with IIS and you'd be partly right. | Unfortunately the ASP that is free with IIS doesn't include all of the | functionality available in ColdFusion and you have to purchase server | extensions for that. So it's free if you want only the included | functionality and otherwise you ending up paying for it. And it's silly | stuff too, like file uploads. I'm not sure how much the server extensions | cost (there are apparently a lot of them) but you could theoretically end | up paying more for the same functionality. Theoretically. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Hmm .. you would think that would be something Allaire would like to promote, ya know? ;) Todd - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: RE: Big companies using CF I work for Sprint, we use it extensively to watch over the nations phone systems! Misty ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Its not only portability, but scalability and RAD and yes the RAD is very impresive when you know what your doing. A structure of a site, can be completed in next to no time with CF. Not to mention that the ability to create matching open and close custom tags creates the ability to do so much more with the generated content than even ASP can't do. CF might not have the ability to create custom functions yet, but it makes up with the above mentioned on tags. the customtag LessWhiteSPace is a good example, or Ben's DHTMLMenu is another example. regards Andrew Scott Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer -Original Message- From: Cold Fusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 December 2000 16:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Fw: Big companies using CF Just to add to Paul's comments..one advantage that CF "currently" has over ASP is portability to other OS's. That can be a big one for a lot of companies. - Original Message - From: Paul Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Big companies using CF snip You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig snip Depends if he's bound and determined to use ASP, or he's open to new ideas. If you can talk to the new guy about CF, you can find better arguments than "whatever.com uses CF". The rapid deployment and easy learning curve of CF is its strongest point, IMHO. I've worked with other big players, in general we add new features and integrations much more quickly than other sites do. A large part of that is that it is simple to change things in CF, easy to read other people's code, easy to find help if you get stuck. Fusebox makes it even easier. ~Paul Paul Huber Web Applications Developer http://www.eBags.com What's your bag? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Hi Joe I think you should have him look at: http://www.victoriassecret.com/index.cfm Check and Mate! Dick At 7:18 PM -0700 12/4/00, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Joesph, I know for sure that HP and Agilent use Cold Fusion . I work for Agilent and have worked for HP developing with Cold Fusion. Penny Hutten Web Development Agilent - Original Message - From: "Dick Applebaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Hi Joe I think you should have him look at: http://www.victoriassecret.com/index.cfm Check and Mate! Dick At 7:18 PM -0700 12/4/00, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
ALOT of users was Re: Big companies using CF
www.lycosshop.com nike is using it with able commerece in Florida. www.vegas.com www.mgmgrand.com www.lvtb.com www.westernunion.com POint him to linkexchange.com IT's a MS site and run on CF He'll like that of course. - Original Message - From: Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Freeserve in the UK, the UK's largest ISP and Portal and their associated sites. Stew ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Autobytel.com You can also look here for a list: http://www.allaire.com/casestudies/index.cfm Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF | I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time | on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have | a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big | Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I | believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). | | When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big | companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I | right about this?). | | So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known | internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time | comapnies are using CF for their pages? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I believe www.roomstogo.com is CF-based (and FuseBox-based to boot!). -- Jamie Keane Programmer SolutionMasters, Inc. 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100 Charlotte, NC 28270 www.solutionmasters.com 704.563.5559 x 228 Voice 704.849.9291 Fax -Original Message- From: Todd Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Autobytel.com You can also look here for a list: http://www.allaire.com/casestudies/index.cfm Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF | I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time | on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have | a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big | Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I | believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). | | When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big | companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I | right about this?). | | So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known | internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time | comapnies are using CF for their pages? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Crayola (www.crayola.com) and the University Of Teesside (www.tees.ac.uk) Sapphire Technologies Ltd. Secure in the Knowledge Simon Halcrow Web Developer E [EMAIL PROTECTED] T +44 (0)1642 702100 F +44 (0)1642 702119 W www.sapphire.net -Original Message- From: Todd Ashworth [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Autobytel.com You can also look here for a list: http://www.allaire.com/casestudies/index.cfm Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF | I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time | on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have | a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big | Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I | believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). | | When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big | companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I | right about this?). | | So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known | internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time | comapnies are using CF for their pages? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
oh yeah .. www.afternic.com is CF/Fusebox too. Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF | I believe www.roomstogo.com is CF-based (and FuseBox-based to boot!). | | -- | Jamie Keane | Programmer | SolutionMasters, Inc. | 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100 | Charlotte, NC 28270 | www.solutionmasters.com | 704.563.5559 x 228 Voice | 704.849.9291 Fax ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
AOL uses it for the developer site. Regards, Marc Garrett ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
www.footlocker.com use it for their huge site -Original Message- From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 December 2000 12:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
That's right, Jamie. Rooms To Go is the nation's largest furniture retailer and it's all CF Fusebox. Hal Helms -Original Message- From: Jamie Keane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big companies using CF I believe www.roomstogo.com is CF-based (and FuseBox-based to boot!). -- Jamie Keane Programmer SolutionMasters, Inc. 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100 Charlotte, NC 28270 www.solutionmasters.com 704.563.5559 x 228 Voice 704.849.9291 Fax -Original Message- From: Todd Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Autobytel.com You can also look here for a list: http://www.allaire.com/casestudies/index.cfm Todd Ashworth - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF | I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time | on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have | a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big | Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I | believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). | | When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big | companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I | right about this?). | | So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known | internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time | comapnies are using CF for their pages? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
and just for your info we're doing internal corporate projects for Unilever, Kraft, Tesco, Royal Dutch Philips and Next at the moment... Stew ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
half.com uses it. Its a very large e-commerce site. I buy stuff there all the time. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Well if your into football The St. Louis Rams website is powered by Cold Fusion. Also there is a big cellular phone distributor out of Miami that my friend runs, its powered by Cold Fusion, the site is http://www.brightcell.com They are also the first mobile phone dealer listed on amazon.com From: Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:36:33 -0600 half.com uses it. Its a very large e-commerce site. I buy stuff there all the time. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
At-A_Glance, Mead paper's e-commerce site uses CF. Craig Thomas PK Interactive, Inc. -Original Message- From: Stewart McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big companies using CF and just for your info we're doing internal corporate projects for Unilever, Kraft, Tesco, Royal Dutch Philips and Next at the moment... Stew ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
www.gobycoach.com (National Express Coaches UK) as well as internal projects. Jason Lees National Express Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 December 2000 02:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
True Value (www.truvalue.com) has a real nice site built with CF that includes a nice shopping application and an overall "Amazon" look (like a gazillion other online shopping sites). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I'm a developer with Lucent and we use CF extensively behind the firewall. In particular, I am using CF to create a monthly e-zine and a multimedia app. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
http://sunglasshut.com - Original Message - From: "Nick Betts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:48 AM Subject: RE: Big companies using CF www.footlocker.com use it for their huge site ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Nike.COM ALONG WITH AbleCommerce Lycos Iwon is for email marketing DoubleClick has a new server product offering scheduled for rollout in mid 2001 Microsoft is using it for a recent purchase of LinkExchange www.loadmail.com is using it for a Hotmail like co brand system www.ebags.com is a fusebox based ecommerce monger. Heinz57 MIT is using it for a internal test app. Remember CF works on UNIX too - Original Message - From: Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF half.com uses it. Its a very large e-commerce site. I buy stuff there all the time. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Don't forget www.ebags.com first large fusebox application Richard Kern ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Matrox uses CF. Richard Ramos Network Administrator Softitler Net, Inc. www.softitler.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Would'nt it be also unlikely if you already have alot of CF work done to go and change everything over just because of a M$ fanatic? Honestly where I am we have a young guy who is all M$ and lives it and breaths it , also went to CF training and knows some CF, however he does not force the M$ methods or software on anyone. I wouldnt learn to LOVE ASP, but I would wait and see what this guy is all about, besides he mite have some really good idea's also. ASP hmm I was told by the CF instructor from school that was Awfully Slow Pages. Oh well Later [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
i believe i saw a fello from playboy a group from victoria's secret at the dev con. -paul ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
http://www.breakbeatscience.com (an online record store) uses Cold Fusion. I am currently working on other music oriented sites using CF. Also, when I worked for Baylor Health Care System (one of the largest Helth chains in the US) our entire Intranet and portions of the External sites were Cold Fusion. chris.alvarado cold.fusion - developer [phone] 512.794.6563 [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [web] http://www.tmanage.com Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. It is not for use or disclosure outside TManage without a written proprietary agreement. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, or agent responsible for delivery, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. Please notify the sender as soon as possible and immediately destroy this message and its attachments entirely. -Original Message- From: Richard Kern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big companies using CF Don't forget www.ebags.com first large fusebox application Richard Kern ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Talking about underwear, Fruit of the Loom also uses ColdFusion, http://www.fruit.com. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Chris Evans wrote: We use it extensively: http://www.VictoriasSecret.com Chris Evans Webmaster, Victoria's Secret Catalog http://www.VictoriasSecret.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
Go to http://www.forta.com/cf/using/ and look through the list of companies using CF. --Shawn W. McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tim Bahlke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF I'm a developer with Lucent and we use CF extensively behind the firewall. In particular, I am using CF to create a monthly e-zine and a multimedia app. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
computerjobs.com is a substantial CF site cf_shamelessplug also my own site does about 500,000 page views a day http://www.wjla.com /cf_shamelessplug :) Robert Forsyth Director of Web Operations Irides, LLC Phone: 202-364-7831 Fax: 202-364-2481 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I've been assured (yeah, like I'll blindly accept it) that this won't happen. They've invested too much for a sudden change in direction... but I'm keeping my fingers crosses nonetheless... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
BMW uses it. http://www.bmwusa.com Takes you to http://www.bmwusa.com/start.cfm They're kind of big. (in a sarcastic tone) E -Original Message- From: Richard Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Matrox uses CF. Richard Ramos Network Administrator Softitler Net, Inc. www.softitler.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
At 07:18 PM 12/4/00 -0700, you wrote: So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? Not that their web presence is *huge* or anything, but you've probably heard of them: http://www.tabasco.com http://www.oreck.com http://www2.tulane.edu Tabasco's store is having a bit of a vomit right now but it's under repair. I know. I know. Server clustering and all that jazz. grumble grumble. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I had Advanced CF training with Dave acouple months ago and there were some DoD people in there. Tim ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
snip You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig snip Depends if he's bound and determined to use ASP, or he's open to new ideas. If you can talk to the new guy about CF, you can find better arguments than "whatever.com uses CF". The rapid deployment and easy learning curve of CF is its strongest point, IMHO. I've worked with other big players, in general we add new features and integrations much more quickly than other sites do. A large part of that is that it is simple to change things in CF, easy to read other people's code, easy to find help if you get stuck. Fusebox makes it even easier. ~Paul Paul Huber Web Applications Developer http://www.eBags.com What's your bag? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
ASP isn't all that bad. Although ASP is not as easy as CF, it's language is much cleaner. I have found that CF has irregularities in some of the way coding is done. For example sometimes you need # signs in front of variables, othertimes you don't. In anycase, ASP is "free" with IIS, and if that is all that is available it ain't all that bad actually! At 10:09 AM 12/05/00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Joe, You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP or find a new job. Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be about as logical as the current presidential political arguments. :o)) Jeff Craig - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF having worked for onvia.com (their newly aquired phoenix office) I wouldn't offer them as being a good or even efficient example of CF usage... - Original Message - From: "Michael She" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Big companies using CF onvia.com and even Hewlett Packard uses it for their site. At 07:18 PM 12/04/00 -0700, Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd you wrote: I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Big companies using CF
Also, Michelin.com and it's many country sites. Jeff Fongemie -Original Message- From: Richard Kern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big companies using CF Don't forget www.ebags.com first large fusebox application Richard Kern ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Big companies using CF
I have worked on internal sites for Minolta, TransAmerica Capital, Canon, Dale Carnegie, Xilinx, and Komatsu... Not that most of these companies know that it's Cold Fusion that runs there sites, but they know it works. I think you are going to need a couple pieces of paper for this list :-) jon - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Big companies using CF I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Big companies using CF
I know this is probably one of those discussions that turn up all the time on a mailing list such as this, and I apologize for bringing it up. I have a new IT Director starting at my company in the very near future who's a big Microsoft fan, and thinks there's nothing better than ASP and/or C# (which I believe hasn't even been released yet, no?). When I told him that CF has been around for a long time, and some really big companies use it, he doubted it. I told him Amazon.com was using it (was I right about this?). So anyway, I've agreed to compile a list of some of the bigger well known internet comapnies using it, and would like some assistance. What big time comapnies are using CF for their pages? thanx... Joseph E. Sheble a.k.a. Wizaerd Wizaerd's Realm Canvas, 3D, Graphics, ColdFusion, PHP, and mySQL http://www.wizaerd.com = ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
