CF Blog App with pinging and linkbacks

2009-09-11 Thread Terry Troxel

 
Are there any open source CF Blogs that enable services like Ping-O-Matic
and or linkbacks?

Terry Troxel



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Re: CF Blog App with pinging and linkbacks

2009-09-11 Thread Raymond Camden

Have you checked RIAForge?

Not sure what you mean by Ping-O-Matic. BlogCFC supports pinging N
services on blog entry writing. As for linkbacks - if you mean
trackbacks, BlogCFC supports it, but no one uses it. TBs just become
spam baits.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Terry Troxel te...@it-werks.com wrote:


 Are there any open source CF Blogs that enable services like Ping-O-Matic
 and or linkbacks?

 Terry Troxel



 

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-12 Thread Mark A Kruger
See That's why I stay complimentary I want to keep control of all my
limbs. 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiuser CF blog app?

Heh, I _do_ hope this is a joke. ;) In fact, the 5.005 build I'm working on
now is 100% from bug reports. So I definitely listen to code criticisms. (Of
course, I then make a vodoo doll of the
person)

On 6/9/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt,

 Ah... Well, it sounds like you had a bad experience. I'd go with Ray's 
 blog... He's such a giant most of us are afraid to criticize his code 
 so instead of looking too close  you will end up saying hmm he 
 must have known what he was doing (ha).



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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-12 Thread Andrea Veggiani
  Pretty much the only customization a blog owner can do 
  without having 
  access to the template and css files themselves is override 
  the default 
  CSS with their own CSS (it's an option in the admin).  But 
  you'd really 
  have to be a CSS guru to make changes like that.
 
 Ok, thanks for the info.  I've been hoping to find CF based blog
 software that is easy to upgrade, but I'm not sure if there are any 
 out
 there.  I'm on BlogCFC right now, and it's cool but upgrading to new
 versions takes a while.
 
 
If you want, take a look at AVBlog.

It does not still support multiuser blogs but it's full featured, easy to 
upgrade, all XHTML + CSS driven (and skinnable) and near to the 1.5 release 
(with some imports wizards too).

Bye
Andrea Veggiani

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
Ray's blog is good and used by most of us cf coder types... But blogfusion
is also an excellent product.

http://www.blogfusion.com/index.cfm


It inlcudes lots of extras including a photo blog component.

-mark
 

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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiuser CF blog app?

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/blogcfc/

On 6/9/06, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a client who has a need for a single application to provide a
multiuser-enabled blog app.  Anyone know of one in the CF universe?


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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Scott Stroz
I'll also give a nod to Ray's blog.  He recently helped to implement 550
instances of BlogCFC for a large site.

On 6/8/06, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a client who has a need for a single application to provide a
 multiuser-enabled blog app.  Anyone know of one in the CF universe?

 

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Rick Root
BlogCFM was designed to allow multiple blogs in a single database. 
Every table has a blog_id field, and the blog_id can be set in the 
application.cfm in a variety of ways.  There's only one installation, 
one database, one file structure.  Each instance has its own directory 
for files and such but the main blog files are only in one location.

The way you would set it up would be to install the blog .. for example, 
at blog.foobar.com.  And then set up a wildcard DNS record for 
*.foobar.com so it'll respond to anything.foobar.com

And then in the application.cfm you can look at the host headers to 
determine what to set the blog_id to.

Ultimately, it's not an out of the box system... because you'd probably 
want to build some sort of external app to allow people to sign up and 
choose their own hostname like rick.footbar.com, and it would store 
that hostname in a table along with the blog_id and such..

you get the idea.

there are also a few bugs in the current version of blogcfm that I 
haven't had a lot of time to work on.. maybe I'll work on it today :)

www.blogcfm.org

There's a demo there so you can see how the interface works and everything.

Rick

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Munson, Jacob
I was going to try blogfusion the other day, but I found out you have to
buy it to try it.  Sorry, that's not my game.  Or is there a way to get
a limited demo copy?  I know he's got a live demo up, but I want to see
how it works with my setup and how hard it would be to get all my blog
entries ported. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:05 AM
 
 Ray's blog is good and used by most of us cf coder types... 
 But blogfusion
 is also an excellent product.
 
 http://www.blogfusion.com/index.cfm
 
 
 It inlcudes lots of extras including a photo blog component.

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Munson, Jacob
How hard is it to customize the layout?  An initial customization isn't
a big deal, but I'd have to do it for each new BlogCFM release as well,
unless you've got some cool templating going on.  That's what I liked
about Blogger, when I was still using it.  You could basically build
your own site design, and just throw in pieces of code in appropriate
places to get the blogger content (Ex., your blog posts, dates, etc.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:46 AM
 
 BlogCFM was designed to allow multiple blogs in a single database. 
 Every table has a blog_id field, and the blog_id can be set in the 
 application.cfm in a variety of ways.  There's only one installation, 
 one database, one file structure.  Each instance has its 
 own directory 
 for files and such but the main blog files are only in one location.
 
 The way you would set it up would be to install the blog .. 
 for example, 
 at blog.foobar.com.  And then set up a wildcard DNS record for 
 *.foobar.com so it'll respond to anything.foobar.com
 
 And then in the application.cfm you can look at the host headers to 
 determine what to set the blog_id to.
 
 Ultimately, it's not an out of the box system... because 
 you'd probably 
 want to build some sort of external app to allow people to 
 sign up and 
 choose their own hostname like rick.footbar.com, and it would store 
 that hostname in a table along with the blog_id and such..
 
 you get the idea.
 
 there are also a few bugs in the current version of blogcfm that I 
 haven't had a lot of time to work on.. maybe I'll work on it today :)
 
 www.blogcfm.org
 
 There's a demo there so you can see how the interface works 
 and everything.

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Rick Root
Munson, Jacob wrote:
 How hard is it to customize the layout?  An initial customization isn't
 a big deal, but I'd have to do it for each new BlogCFM release as well,
 unless you've got some cool templating going on.  That's what I liked
 about Blogger, when I was still using it.  You could basically build
 your own site design, and just throw in pieces of code in appropriate
 places to get the blogger content (Ex., your blog posts, dates, etc.)

Well it's certainly not as easy as that - since I've never developed 
BlogCFM into a full blow multi-user blogging app (I just wanted the base 
system to be able to handle it) it doesn't have those kind of features. 
  Pretty much the only customization a blog owner can do without having 
access to the template and css files themselves is override the default 
CSS with their own CSS (it's an option in the admin).  But you'd really 
have to be a CSS guru to make changes like that.

Rick

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Munson, Jacob
 Pretty much the only customization a blog owner can do 
 without having 
 access to the template and css files themselves is override 
 the default 
 CSS with their own CSS (it's an option in the admin).  But 
 you'd really 
 have to be a CSS guru to make changes like that.

Ok, thanks for the info.  I've been hoping to find CF based blog
software that is easy to upgrade, but I'm not sure if there are any out
there.  I'm on BlogCFC right now, and it's cool but upgrading to new
versions takes a while.


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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Raymond Camden
One of the updates to BlogCFC5 was a CSS based layout. (Thanks to
Scott Stroz.) This should reduce that amount of mods you would do and
therefore making updating easier. All the post 5.0 updates, for
example, should be harmless to folks running 5.

On 6/9/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pretty much the only customization a blog owner can do
  without having
  access to the template and css files themselves is override
  the default
  CSS with their own CSS (it's an option in the admin).  But
  you'd really
  have to be a CSS guru to make changes like that.

 Ok, thanks for the info.  I've been hoping to find CF based blog
 software that is easy to upgrade, but I'm not sure if there are any out
 there.  I'm on BlogCFC right now, and it's cool but upgrading to new
 versions takes a while.


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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Matt Robertson
Ray's blog is good and used by most of us cf coder types... But blogfusion
is also an excellent product.

Unfortunately the client has already purchased BlogFusion and is dropping it 
cuz it doesn't support multiple users.  I set it up for them and I have to say 
it wasn't a good experience.  

Variables being set in /Application.cfm without being inside of a cfif 
isdefined() or something similar, which is forgivable I suppose, but a bad 
sign.  

The database installer is built so that if it detects tables that it wants 
already exist...  it drops them and creates its own under the assumption that 
they must belong to BF I guess ... and it uses simple table names like 'users'. 
 So if you try and use it on an existing dsn and a table name collides you are 
royally screwed if you just run the installer without reading over it and 
finding this little bomb.  This also essentially requires that you put BF into 
its own dsn given the method of naming tables.  Plus it doesn't support 
username and password in cfquery, so you have to put those into the dsn in cf 
admin or revise all of the queries, which I did.

Sorry for the bad vibes but this one freaked me out a little at the time.

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Rick Root
Munson, Jacob wrote:
 
 Ok, thanks for the info.  I've been hoping to find CF based blog
 software that is easy to upgrade, but I'm not sure if there are any out
 there.  I'm on BlogCFC right now, and it's cool but upgrading to new
 versions takes a while.

yeah well at least with the CSS based layout I use (and Ray's BlogCFC 
uses CSS now too), upgrades should be easier.

I think BlogCFM was the first thing I ever did that was all CSS.

CFMBB still uses tables but even there much of the layout and most all 
of the design is CSS based.

Rick

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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
Matt,

Ah... Well, it sounds like you had a bad experience. I'd go with Ray's
blog... He's such a giant most of us are afraid to criticize his code so
instead of looking too close  you will end up saying hmm he must have
known what he was doing (ha).

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiuser CF blog app?

Ray's blog is good and used by most of us cf coder types... But
blogfusion
is also an excellent product.

Unfortunately the client has already purchased BlogFusion and is dropping it
cuz it doesn't support multiple users.  I set it up for them and I have to
say it wasn't a good experience.  

Variables being set in /Application.cfm without being inside of a cfif
isdefined() or something similar, which is forgivable I suppose, but a bad
sign.  

The database installer is built so that if it detects tables that it wants
already exist...  it drops them and creates its own under the assumption
that they must belong to BF I guess ... and it uses simple table names like
'users'.  So if you try and use it on an existing dsn and a table name
collides you are royally screwed if you just run the installer without
reading over it and finding this little bomb.  This also essentially
requires that you put BF into its own dsn given the method of naming tables.
Plus it doesn't support username and password in cfquery, so you have to put
those into the dsn in cf admin or revise all of the queries, which I did.

Sorry for the bad vibes but this one freaked me out a little at the time.



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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Munson, Jacob
Cool, maybe I'll stick with BlogCFC then.  But I'm on 4 now, so I have
to upgrade in the meantime.  ;) 

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:50 AM
 
 One of the updates to BlogCFC5 was a CSS based layout. (Thanks to
 Scott Stroz.) This should reduce that amount of mods you would do and
 therefore making updating easier. All the post 5.0 updates, for
 example, should be harmless to folks running 5.

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Rick Root
When I built BlogCFM, I did so because Ray's blogCFC was missing a lot 
of features that I wanted.  Friendly URLs, captcha, CSS-based design, etc.

Over the years, blogCFC has added most of those features, and while it 
still lacks some features that I wanted, and still does some things that 
I don't like (like the popup window for commenting), it's a damn fine 
blog tool, more robust than mine, and has a much much larger userbase 
for development.

blogCFM 1.11 was buggy and it took me 10 months to release fixes =) 
BlogCFM 1.12 may be the last release, as I'm far more interested in 
CFMBB and CFOpenChat these days.

Rick

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Matt Robertson
When they first asked me a couple months ago I recommended BlogCFC but they had 
just bought the other product.  Found out about the multiuser requirement 
yesterday and they now need a 'yesterday' solution.  Repeated my recommendation 
a bit ago and I'm sure they'll go with it this time. 


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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Heh, I _do_ hope this is a joke. ;) In fact, the 5.005 build I'm
working on now is 100% from bug reports. So I definitely listen to
code criticisms. (Of course, I then make a vodoo doll of the
person)

On 6/9/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt,

 Ah... Well, it sounds like you had a bad experience. I'd go with Ray's
 blog... He's such a giant most of us are afraid to criticize his code so
 instead of looking too close  you will end up saying hmm he must have
 known what he was doing (ha).



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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread David Livingston
Version 5 of blogfusion supports multi blogs (although it's still in  
beta). We just launched a hispanic blogging service with it. It has  
been almost completely revamped. It has CSS layouts and a few other  
nifty tricks that might make it worth taking another look at. If you  
want to see it in action go to http://www.poraqui.com/

Dave


On Jun 9, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

 Heh, I _do_ hope this is a joke. ;) In fact, the 5.005 build I'm
 working on now is 100% from bug reports. So I definitely listen to
 code criticisms. (Of course, I then make a vodoo doll of the
 person)

 On 6/9/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt,

 Ah... Well, it sounds like you had a bad experience. I'd go with  
 Ray's
 blog... He's such a giant most of us are afraid to criticize his  
 code so
 instead of looking too close  you will end up saying hmm he  
 must have
 known what he was doing (ha).



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RE: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Munson, Jacob
 Heh, I _do_ hope this is a joke. ;) In fact, the 5.005 build I'm
 working on now is 100% from bug reports. So I definitely listen to
 code criticisms. (Of course, I then make a vodoo doll of the
 person)

Man, good thing you don't know what I look like.  ;)

By the way, at some point I posted some code to the forum that
periodically saved posts to a cookie as you typed, like Gmail.  Did
something similar to that make it to BlogCFC 5?  If not, no big deal.
I'd just hack it in again after I upgrade.  :)


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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-09 Thread Raymond Camden
I've seen code like that with AJAX demos. But no, I haven't added that.

On 6/9/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Heh, I _do_ hope this is a joke. ;) In fact, the 5.005 build I'm
  working on now is 100% from bug reports. So I definitely listen to
  code criticisms. (Of course, I then make a vodoo doll of the
  person)

 Man, good thing you don't know what I look like.  ;)

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multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-08 Thread Matt Robertson
I have a client who has a need for a single application to provide a 
multiuser-enabled blog app.  Anyone know of one in the CF universe?

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Re: multiuser CF blog app?

2006-06-08 Thread James Holmes
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/blogcfc/

On 6/9/06, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a client who has a need for a single application to provide a 
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Re: Blog app

2005-02-08 Thread daniel kessler
great!  thanks Rick.

Daniel Kessler wrote:
 
 It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.

BlogCFM 0.93b includes full support for Oracle and SQL Server.

I also fixed quite a lot of major and minor bugs, and finished some 
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Re: Blog app

2005-02-08 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Actually, and I dont mean to trash Oracle here as I'm quite fond it.

But MSSQL is a bit faster than Oracle on smaller data sets. Oracle
doesn't beat MSSQL in performance until you hit 10ks of rows.

So technically it's underkill. :-P

-Adam


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:57:42 -0500, Daniel Kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:01 PM -0500 2/3/05, CF-Talk wrote:
 Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.
 
 Isn't that kinda overkill?
 
 Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
 pictures of my cat!
 
 yeah it is probably overkill, but it's what the University supports
 and I use it whether I need to scale later or not.
 
 It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.
 
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Blog app

2005-02-04 Thread Daniel Kessler
At 12:01 PM -0500 2/3/05, CF-Talk wrote:
Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.

Isn't that kinda overkill?

Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
pictures of my cat!

yeah it is probably overkill, but it's what the University supports 
and I use it whether I need to scale later or not.

It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
Daniel Kessler wrote:
 
 It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.

BlogCFM 0.93b includes full support for Oracle and SQL Server.

I also fixed quite a lot of major and minor bugs, and finished some 
features that weren't done (like requiring account confirmation before 
posting comments)

You can download it from www.blogcfm.org =)

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Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Daniel Kessler
At 4:02 PM -0500 2/2/05, CF-Talk wrote:
BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL,
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).

But not Oracle?

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Gaughan
Daniel Kessler wrote:
 At 4:02 PM -0500 2/2/05, CF-Talk wrote:
 
BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL,
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).
 
 But not Oracle?

Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.

Isn't that kinda overkill?

Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
pictures of my cat!

But joking aside, odd though PL/SQL can be sometimes, it shouldn't be
that hard to add support. All you need is to get Rick to add you to the
list of developers.

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Rick Root
Daniel Kessler wrote:
 At 4:02 PM -0500 2/2/05, CF-Talk wrote:
 
BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL,
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).
 
 
 But not Oracle?

I didn't figure there'd be a whole lot of demand for running a blog app 
on Oracle =)

Actually it shouldn't be too hard to convert.  There are three  issues 
with converting to Oracle

#1 - Oracle can't group by clob fields, which I do in one query.  but 
neither can SQL Server so I'm gonna solve that with the next release anyway.

#2 - COMMENT isn't a valid column name in Oracle.  So I'll have to go 
through and change that fieldname to something like COMMENT_TEXT ... 
I'll probably do that in the next release too..

#3 - Apparently there are no Month() and Year() functions, which is 
fine, neither does postgres... so I'll have to figure out how to create 
those functions too.  I've done them for postgres so it shouldn't be all 
that difficult.

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread James Holmes
If and when we take on / develop blog software, we will potentially have
3000 staff and 30,000 students who might have blogs. We use Oracle as our
wep-apps DB for a reason...

-Original Message-
From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 8:03 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Blog app

Daniel Kessler wrote:
 At 4:02 PM -0500 2/2/05, CF-Talk wrote:
 
BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE 
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).
 
 But not Oracle?

Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.

Isn't that kinda overkill?

Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
pictures of my cat!

But joking aside, odd though PL/SQL can be sometimes, it shouldn't be that
hard to add support. All you need is to get Rick to add you to the list of
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RE: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread James Holmes
 
Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the appropriate
date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)

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Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:30 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Blog app


#3 - Apparently there are no Month() and Year() functions, which is fine,
neither does postgres... so I'll have to figure out how to create those
functions too.  I've done them for postgres so it shouldn't be all that
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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Rick Root
James Holmes wrote:
 If and when we take on / develop blog software, we will potentially have
 3000 staff and 30,000 students who might have blogs. We use Oracle as our
 wep-apps DB for a reason...

Since I'm in beta, releases come pretty often, so you can expect full 
oracle (and SQL Server) support in 0.93, probably this weekend.

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Rick Root
James Holmes wrote:
  
 Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the appropriate
 date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)

Actually the way I do it in postgres is this (note, these are the first 
functions I've ever written in any database language)

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Month(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(month from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Year(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(year from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;


Since oracle supports extract() as well, it should be similarly easy.

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread James Holmes
Ah, of course - I was thinking of something that returns the actual string
for Month (duh).

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:54 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Blog app

James Holmes wrote:
  
 Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the 
 appropriate date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)

Actually the way I do it in postgres is this (note, these are the first
functions I've ever written in any database language)

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Month(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(month from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Year(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(year from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;


Since oracle supports extract() as well, it should be similarly easy.

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 03 Feb 2005 13:30 pm, Rick Root wrote:
 I didn't figure there'd be a whole lot of demand for running a blog app
 on Oracle =)

If you're abstracted enough to cope with more than one, you might as well 
support all the big vendors.

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread James Holmes
As it turns out, it was an act of volunteering:

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION month (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS
BEGIN
   RETURN extract(MONTH FROM MyDate);
END month;
/

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION year (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS
BEGIN
   RETURN extract(YEAR FROM MyDate);
END year;
/
 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:54 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Blog app

James Holmes wrote:
  
 Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the 
 appropriate date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)

Actually the way I do it in postgres is this (note, these are the first
functions I've ever written in any database language)

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Month(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(month from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Year(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
 AS 'select extract(year from $1)'
 LANGUAGE SQL
 IMMUTABLE
 RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;


Since oracle supports extract() as well, it should be similarly easy.



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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Rick Root
James, thanks!

Have you ever used Coldfusion CFQUERY to create a function?

My setup script loads the database tables via coldfusion, and I can't 
get the function to work creately when I create it via cfquery...

  - Rick

James Holmes wrote:
 As it turns out, it was an act of volunteering:
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION month (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS
 BEGIN
RETURN extract(MONTH FROM MyDate);
 END month;
 /
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION year (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS
 BEGIN
RETURN extract(YEAR FROM MyDate);
 END year;
 /
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:54 
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Blog app
 
 James Holmes wrote:
 
 
Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the 
appropriate date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)
 
 
 Actually the way I do it in postgres is this (note, these are the first
 functions I've ever written in any database language)
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Month(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
  AS 'select extract(month from $1)'
  LANGUAGE SQL
  IMMUTABLE
  RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Year(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
  AS 'select extract(year from $1)'
  LANGUAGE SQL
  IMMUTABLE
  RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;
 
 
 Since oracle supports extract() as well, it should be similarly easy.
 
 
 
 

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread James Holmes
I haven't tried it yet, no. If I get a little more time I'll look into it,
because I'm sure to want to it myself eventually.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 11:31 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Blog app

James, thanks!

Have you ever used Coldfusion CFQUERY to create a function?

My setup script loads the database tables via coldfusion, and I can't get
the function to work creately when I create it via cfquery...

  - Rick

James Holmes wrote:
 As it turns out, it was an act of volunteering:
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION month (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS BEGIN
RETURN extract(MONTH FROM MyDate);
 END month;
 /
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION year (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS BEGIN
RETURN extract(YEAR FROM MyDate);
 END year;
 /
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Blog app
 
 James Holmes wrote:
 
 
Just wrap a PL/SQL function around a to_char() call with the 
appropriate date mask. No, that's not an act of volunteering :-)
 
 
 Actually the way I do it in postgres is this (note, these are the 
 first functions I've ever written in any database language)
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Month(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
  AS 'select extract(month from $1)'
  LANGUAGE SQL
  IMMUTABLE
  RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION Year(timestamp) RETURNS double precision
  AS 'select extract(year from $1)'
  LANGUAGE SQL
  IMMUTABLE
  RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT;
 
 
 Since oracle supports extract() as well, it should be similarly easy.
 
 
 
 



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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Gaughan
James Holmes wrote:

 If and when we take on / develop blog software, we will potentially have
 3000 staff and 30,000 students who might have blogs. We use Oracle as our
 wep-apps DB for a reason...

I was being facetious, of course. My point was that Oracle support isn't
something your average blogger would need. I wasn't saying that Oracle
support in a piece of blogging software was useless, just unusual.

K.

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 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Blog app
 
 Daniel Kessler wrote:
 
At 4:02 PM -0500 2/2/05, CF-Talk wrote:


BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE 
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).

But not Oracle?
 
 
 Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.
 
 Isn't that kinda overkill?
 
 Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
 pictures of my cat!
 
 But joking aside, odd though PL/SQL can be sometimes, it shouldn't be that
 hard to add support. All you need is to get Rick to add you to the list of
 developers.
 
 

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-03 Thread Doug Bezona
Daniel Kessler wrote:
#3 - Apparently there are no Month() and Year() functions, which is 
fine, neither does postgres... so I'll have to figure out how to create 
those functions too.  I've done them for postgres so it shouldn't be all 
that difficult.

Out of curiosity, why rely on the database for these functions when Coldfusion 
has perfectly good equivilents?

As for Oracle, there aren't functions with that specific name, however you can 
use TO_CHAR to accomplish the same thing - i.e. TO_CHAR(date, 'MONTH') gives 
you the full name of the month.

http://www-db.stanford.edu/~ullman/fcdb/oracle/or-time.html is a good 
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Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Rick Root
Hi all.

BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE 
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).  You can do photo 
blogs, have multiple blogs in a single database, etc...

It runs on both CFMX 6.1, Bluedragon 6.1 RC3, and Bluedragon 6.2 beta 1.

Available for download from www.blogcfm.org

There is also a demo available, you can get more info about the demo 
blog at www.blogcfm.org

Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.

  - Rick

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Calvin Ward
What's the query?

- Calvin

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Subject: Blog app

Hi all.

BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE 
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).  You can do photo 
blogs, have multiple blogs in a single database, etc...

It runs on both CFMX 6.1, Bluedragon 6.1 RC3, and Bluedragon 6.2 beta 1.

Available for download from www.blogcfm.org

There is also a demo available, you can get more info about the demo 
blog at www.blogcfm.org

Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Phill B
How easy is it to tweak the design so it will work with a site I have?


On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:46:43 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL,
 PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE
 query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).  You can do photo
 blogs, have multiple blogs in a single database, etc...
 
 It runs on both CFMX 6.1, Bluedragon 6.1 RC3, and Bluedragon 6.2 beta 1.
 
 Available for download from www.blogcfm.org
 
 There is also a demo available, you can get more info about the demo
 blog at www.blogcfm.org
 
 Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
   - Rick

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RE: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Dawson, Michael
Rick, I'd like to put a blog on our University's web site for all
students and faculty.  Will your blog app handle a situation like that?

The web site is secured by Active Directory authentication meaning I
have a username for everyone.  Is there a way to have the blog
automatically know the currently-logged on user and allow them to only
modify their own blog?

Thanks! 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Blog app

Hi all.

BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL,
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).  You can do photo
blogs, have multiple blogs in a single database, etc...

It runs on both CFMX 6.1, Bluedragon 6.1 RC3, and Bluedragon 6.2 beta 1.

Available for download from www.blogcfm.org

There is also a demo available, you can get more info about the demo
blog at www.blogcfm.org

Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.

  - Rick



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Re: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Rick Root
Calvin Ward wrote:
 What's the query?

It's a query that contains a text field in a group by clause.  Works 
fine in MySQL, postgresql, and even Access... but SQL Server doesn't 
allow such fields in group by clauses.

I've got solutions in mind I just didn't feel like doing it yesterday =)

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Rick Root
Dawson, Michael wrote:
 Rick, I'd like to put a blog on our University's web site for all
 students and faculty.  Will your blog app handle a situation like that?
 
 The web site is secured by Active Directory authentication meaning I
 have a username for everyone.  Is there a way to have the blog
 automatically know the currently-logged on user and allow them to only
 modify their own blog?

It could do that with some customization... It can definately handle 
individual blogs in a single database...

It would take quite a lot of customization at this point to integrate 
with activedirectory authentication, a shared user database, etc... I 
haven't actually contemplated how to deal with a shared user database yet..

Especially in an environment where only some users (the students) would 
authenticate via ActiveDirectory.

  - Rick


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RE: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Emmet McGovern
Must be nice having time to work on personal projects! Looks good.  

Emmet

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Subject: Blog app

Hi all.

BlogCFM 0.92b is available.  It now includes support for MySQL, 
PostgreSQL, and Access - SQL Server support will be coming soon (ONE 
query in the app doesn't work under SQL Server).  You can do photo 
blogs, have multiple blogs in a single database, etc...

It runs on both CFMX 6.1, Bluedragon 6.1 RC3, and Bluedragon 6.2 beta 1.

Available for download from www.blogcfm.org

There is also a demo available, you can get more info about the demo 
blog at www.blogcfm.org

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  - Rick



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RE: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Damien McKenna
I did something like that for TikiWiki two years ago.  My technique was
to use the database as a cache of the LDAP information.  I would query
the LDAP server first, if the member was found then either update the
database or create a new account for them using the LDAP information.
If the account was not found in the LDAP server then I would query the
database per usual.  I also added a part to create the LDAP user if it
wasn't found, but that's probably a bit more than you want.

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 It would take quite a lot of customization at this point to 
 integrate with activedirectory authentication, a shared user 
 database, etc... I haven't actually contemplated how to deal 
 with a shared user database yet..
 Especially in an environment where only some users (the 
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Re: Blog app

2005-02-02 Thread Rick Root
Damien McKenna wrote:

 I did something like that for TikiWiki two years ago.  My technique was
 to use the database as a cache of the LDAP information.  I would query
 the LDAP server first, if the member was found then either update the
 database or create a new account for them using the LDAP information.
 If the account was not found in the LDAP server then I would query the
 database per usual.  I also added a part to create the LDAP user if it
 wasn't found, but that's probably a bit more than you want.
 

That sounds like a pretty neat solution.  I do something similar in a 
fwe apps at work where I authenticate users against our DB2 mainframe, 
then store their user information in a local oracle table except in 
my case, users are ALWAYS authenticated against DB2... I just keep the 
information in oracle for other purposes.. (like when someone reserves a 
conference room, I've got their name, phone, dept, etc locally)

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New CF Blog App

2005-01-19 Thread Rick Root
If anyone is interested, I'm making excellent progress on my new
coldfusion blogging tool which I will release under open source.

It's called BlogCFM.  Currently only running under CFMX 6.1 with MySQL,
I plan to test it with BlueDragon too, eventually.

Two big features that I like about it (hey I like the whole thing)

1.  Option to generate individual files for each blog entry and use
those links (1.cfm) instead of entry.cfm?entry_id=1.
2.  Optionally require users to authenticate before posting comments.
3.  Optionally use an HTML editor for posting entries.

It also gives you the ability to edit existing entries and delete comments.

Please take a look at http://www.webworksllc.com/blogcfm

I hope to release a beta version in the next week or so.

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Re: New CF Blog App

2005-01-19 Thread Keith Gaughan
Rick Root wrote:

 If anyone is interested, I'm making excellent progress on my new
 coldfusion blogging tool which I will release under open source.
 
 It's called BlogCFM.  Currently only running under CFMX 6.1 with MySQL,
 I plan to test it with BlueDragon too, eventually.
 
 Two big features that I like about it (hey I like the whole thing)
 
 1.  Option to generate individual files for each blog entry and use
 those links (1.cfm) instead of entry.cfm?entry_id=1.
 2.  Optionally require users to authenticate before posting comments.
 3.  Optionally use an HTML editor for posting entries.
 
 It also gives you the ability to edit existing entries and delete comments.
 
 Please take a look at http://www.webworksllc.com/blogcfm
 
 I hope to release a beta version in the next week or so.

Sounds like fun! I might hack on it when I've some free time. My CFOpen
username is hereticmessiah, if you want to add me to the project.

If you want, I could let you have a peek at my own weblogging software.
(FusionBlog) It's more sophisticated than yours in some ways, and less
so in others. I've been dragging my feet on some features such as
categories, and I purposely kept the comments system completely seperate
from the blogging software 'cause I wanted to use it on some of the
pages on my site that weren't part of the weblog.

It's also got sweet URLs like:

 http://talideon.com/weblog/2004/12/spammers-are-scum.cfm

And it generates nice, clean RSS 2.0. I've been dragging my heels on
implementing Atom, but it'd be trivial to add. I haven't implemented
categories yet 'cause I've yet to think of a way that doesn't suck a
little.

It was all hacked together, on paper, over the course of a night.
Surprisingly, it somehow managed to work first time!

K.

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Re: New CF Blog App

2005-01-19 Thread Neil Middleton
I too would be interested in taking a look at this and suprise,
surpise I also have a CFOpen account under neilmiddleton.

 Rick Root wrote:
 
  If anyone is interested, I'm making excellent progress on my new
  coldfusion blogging tool which I will release under open source.
 
  It's called BlogCFM.  Currently only running under CFMX 6.1 with MySQL,
  I plan to test it with BlueDragon too, eventually.

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RE: ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-17 Thread Igor Ilyinsky
So, Heidi, I think you asked for feedback, but instead you got caught in a crossfire of insults between developers. None of which I am willing to bet has even used Blogman.

 
I have used it and have some feedback...

 
1. There is no spot in the config.XML doc to specify a mail server, so it relies on the default (if there is one). I added an option to include one per blog.

 
2. Multiple people can contribute to the same blog, and they all have equal control. While I'm not sure that any two people will need to contribute to the same blog, if they did... there is no reason for them to be able to step on each others toes. Also, makes the multi-accounts feature useless.

 
3. There is no mention of securing your XML files. Some of which (config, users, emailsub, commentsub) if browsed to will reveal all user accounts and other sensitive info.

 
4. It is not immediately intuitive that you must create a category to begin blogging. I'm not sure that a category should be required, as most Blogs are general.

 
5. Without re-engineering it, It was difficult to set up blogs for multiple people without making duplicates of the entire app. A better architecture would be:

 
-Blogman
 - App Files (CFCs)
 - Master Admin
 - Blogger Admin ? blogger_id = xxx
 - Blogs
-Blog1
-Blog2
-Blog3

To give my opinion. I love the apps that come with DRK because they are current and relevant... And when some Senior Manager withno clue about technology says Hey, can you build me one of those blog applications I can say Sure without telling him what I really feel. They also provide me with a (usually) well architechted platform to build on top of... and are a great resource to beginner developers. Anyone threatened by MM creating software should re-think their career choice, because by putting out these applications they are both creating a market for us, and giving us the code to add to our entourage.

 
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The Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit team is looking for suggestions on how to improve or enhance the ColdFusion Blog App (a.k.a. Blogman) from DRK Volume 5. If you used the Blogman application (http://www.macromedia.com/software/drk/productinfo/product_overview/volume5/coldfusionmx.html#blog_man_application) and have feature requests, please respond to this post or feel free to send them directly to me.
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2003-12-16 Thread Heidi Voltmer
The Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit team is looking for suggestions on how to improve or enhance the ColdFusion Blog App (a.k.a. Blogman) from DRK Volume 5. If you used the Blogman application (http://www.macromedia.com/software/drk/productinfo/product_overview/volume5/coldfusionmx.html#blog_man_application) and have feature requests, please respond to this post or feel free to send them directly to me.
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Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Irvin Gomez
Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to create applications with a bigger potential user base. A blogging application is kind of useless to most people. We frequently come across them (blogs) because of the nature of our work, but something like a Newletter Manager, an Events Manager, a Web Photo Album would appeal to a wider audience. 

Sorry I can't offer a specific answer to your question! (I have a DevNet subscription, but -like most people- have no use for a blog).
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Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Matt Robertson
Irvin Gomez wrote:
Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to 
create applications with a bigger potential user base

Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build end-user applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea... Correction.A REALLY bad idea.

If you want any of the things you describe, there are developers who will build them for you, or who sell them pre-built already.Cheap.

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Re: Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Matt said:

Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build end-user applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea... Correction.A REALLY bad idea.

I missed this whole thread..but this concept is not new ;-)Just look at Breeze...it's just an app written with Flash Comm server and Flash (very well done...but still just a web app that alot of us could build given time).

I'm a bit on the fence one the whole thingcould raise CF awareness if they build decent marketable appscould be bad if those apps become industry standard and nobody wants custom development

now I'll crawl back under my rock

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Irvin Gomez wrote:
Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to 
create applications with a bigger potential user base

Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build end-user applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea... Correction.A REALLY bad idea.

If you want any of the things you describe, there are developers who will build them for you, or who sell them pre-built already.Cheap.

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RE: ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Heidi Voltmer
Hi,

These are sample applications that are distributed on the DevNet Resource
Kits. They are just like the sample applications that are available on the
Macromedia website except they are only available to anyone who buys the
kits or anyone who is a DevNet subscriber. They are designed to be samples
of what you can do with Macromedia products. 

Thanks,

Heidi

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Irvin Gomez wrote:
Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to 
create applications with a bigger potential user base

Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build end-user
applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea... Correction.
A REALLY bad idea.

If you want any of the things you describe, there are developers who will
build them for you, or who sell them pre-built already.Cheap.

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RE: ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Matt Robertson
Heidi,

Lest anyone get the wrong idea, I wasn't squealing about you folks building sample apps/applets etc.Different class of stuff.Channel conflict is just a sore spot with me.

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RE: ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Some suggestions I have to get this back on topic.

 
1. Video Blogging
2. Audio Blogging
3. Moblogging
4. RDMS ability.

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Hi,

These are sample applications that are distributed on the DevNet
Resource
Kits. They are just like the sample applications that are available on
the
Macromedia website except they are only available to anyone who buys the
kits or anyone who is a DevNet subscriber. They are designed to be
samples
of what you can do with Macromedia products. 

Thanks,

Heidi
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RE: ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Simon Horwith
some of them are more than sample apps... some of the DRK stuff is useful
within other apps.There have been APIs, image manipulation modules,
development tools, etc.Lot's of good stuff - whatever you're after.

~Simon

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Hi,

These are sample applications that are distributed on the DevNet Resource
Kits. They are just like the sample applications that are available on the
Macromedia website except they are only available to anyone who buys the
kits or anyone who is a DevNet subscriber. They are designed to be samples
of what you can do with Macromedia products.

Thanks,

Heidi

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

Irvin Gomez wrote:
Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to
create applications with a bigger potential user base

Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build
end-user
applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea...
Correction.
A REALLY bad idea.

If you want any of the things you describe, there are developers who will
build them for you, or who sell them pre-built already.Cheap.

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Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Irvin Gomez
Hey, Matt: thanks for the personal attack, but I must inform you that I don't need any cheap applications. My guess is that you were probably trying to sell some of the ones you produce (real cheap in your case - using the Milonic DHTML menu beast, for example). Aren't you chopping down some sort of base?

In any case, all those applications in the DevNet subscription are bare bones applications that need further development time and effort before they are sold to most non-developer clients. They don't undermine anything.

I wouldn't feel threatened by them, but it's your right to feel different, of course.

irv


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 Perhaps a better investment of Macromedia's resources would be to 
 create applications with a bigger potential user base
 
 Macromedia chopping down their developer base by starting to build 
 end-user applications?As a developer I'd call that a pretty bad idea... 
 Correction.A REALLY bad idea.
 
 If you want any of the things you describe, there are developers who 
 will build them for you, or who sell them pre-built already.Cheap.
 
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Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Matt Robertson
Snot-nosed attacks don't belong here, so I apologize if what I said rubbed you wrong.Further, my point had nothing to do with anything I do or sell.It was about preserving the market for all of us.Yourself included.

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Re:ColdFusion Blog App from Macromedia DevNet Resource Kit V5

2003-12-16 Thread Irvin Gomez
Issue dropped, as far as I'm concerned. Let's just go back to a heathy discussion. 

 Snot-nosed attacks don't belong here, so I apologize if what I said 
 rubbed you wrong.Further, my point had nothing to do with anything I 
 do or sell.It was about preserving the market for all of us.
 Yourself included.
 
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