Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
On Saturday 24 Mar 2007, James Blaha wrote: This past week I was asked if Iâd like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPUâs to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. The question for you as a CF developer boils down to if we changed the hardware spec from X to Y, would the app still run ?. There shouldn't be any real problem as long as the grunt of the slice of the ESX server you get is good enough. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to biannually seize viral relationships On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Which OS are we talking about? I've done this on small sites (using Virtual PC Server) for Windows and we use VMWare extensively at the office (large enterprise) and have never had a problem. The keys, I think are: +) Each VM slice get's a specific amount of RAM dedicated to it (no other VM or the host OS can use it). Make sure that this is enough. I'm not sure if this is true. I don't have a lot of experience with VMWare ESX, but running VMWare server on top of Windows, if I allocate 2GB to a VM, but the VM only uses 256mb, that's all that it will use, the host or other VMs can use the free RAM. Russ ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273708 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Other than those items (which are really all configuration issues) there's really nothing different. Your VM will be seen as a real PC in every way that matters. I've been using VMWare since it's inception (Desktop) and currently have deployed apps on VMWare Player (for laptop-based demos on the go), VMWare Server (staging and internal apps), and ESX2.0 (for a client) so I'm all for this I'm curious though, since we're on the subject, if anyone has tried the VMWare Converter http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/ to convert a physical machine into a virtual one. Anyone? I'd love to hear about it. Parallels has a similar tool, btw, for their Mac Desktop users that's on my agenda as soon as the new MacBook comes in... -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273747 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Yup, used it twice - once to convert a remote machine and once to convert the local machine. The remote machine failed but I suspect that was because of the old/strange raid storage it uses which I've heard can cause problems. The instance that did work is perfect. - Original Message - From: John Paul Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? Other than those items (which are really all configuration issues) there's really nothing different. Your VM will be seen as a real PC in every way that matters. I've been using VMWare since it's inception (Desktop) and currently have deployed apps on VMWare Player (for laptop-based demos on the go), VMWare Server (staging and internal apps), and ESX2.0 (for a client) so I'm all for this I'm curious though, since we're on the subject, if anyone has tried the VMWare Converter http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/ to convert a physical machine into a virtual one. Anyone? I'd love to hear about it. Parallels has a similar tool, btw, for their Mac Desktop users that's on my agenda as soon as the new MacBook comes in... -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
+) Each VM slice get's a specific amount of RAM dedicated to it (no +other VM or the host OS can use it). Make sure that this is enough. I'm not sure if this is true. I don't have a lot of experience with VMWare ESX, but running VMWare server on top of Windows, if I allocate 2GB to a VM, but the VM only uses 256mb, that's all that it will use, the host or other VMs can use the free RAM. This is the default behavior for ESX 3 as well, I think. However, you can't dynamically increase the amount of memory that a guest OS will use; you must set a maximum, which is what the guest will think is the actual physical memory. To change the maximum, you must stop the VM, edit its settings, then restart it. Within ESX, memory management can get pretty complicated. While this was written for a previous version of ESX, it's a good explanation for how memory management works within ESX: http://www.waldspurger.org/carl/papers/esx-mem-osdi02.pdf (PDF version) http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:xvUNqOqWAdQJ:www.waldspurger.org/carl/pa pers/esx-mem-osdi02.pdf+vmware+esx+guest+memory+allocationhl=enct=clnkcd= 3gl=usclient=firefox-a (HTML from Google cache) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
All, VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware? This past week I was asked if Iâd like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPUâs to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. Does anyone have any recommendations virtual verse physical hardware or past/current experiences they can share? I emailed Adobe to see if they even support CF in a virtual environment I havenât heard back yet. Regards, Jim Blaha ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273650 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Running anything in VM on the whole will be unsupported. Certainly ColdFusion will not be officially supported in it. We have several ESX environments / networks which host ColdFusion and they all run fine The best thing I can see about VM is licensing, you theoretically would only need to buy one ColdFusion license (depending on box) and you could deloy it across large numbers of VMs whereas a physical machine would require more. In all reality, unsupported aside, you should see no difference in the way ColdFusion runs or presents itself. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: James Blaha To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Mar 24 19:30:28 2007 Subject: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? All, VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware? This past week I was asked if IâEUR(tm)d like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPUâEUR(tm)s to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. Does anyone have any recommendations virtual verse physical hardware or past/current experiences they can share? I emailed Adobe to see if they even support CF in a virtual environment I havenâEUR(tm)t heard back yet. Regards, Jim Blaha ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273652 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Are they offering you a significant savings? I agree with Jim that virtualization works great - at least in my dev environments (I've never used it in production), but I'm not sure I'd move off of a physical server to a VM without some sort of incentive. Especially if CF isn't fully supported in that environment. On 3/24/07, James Blaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware? This past week I was asked if I'd like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPU's to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. Does anyone have any recommendations virtual verse physical hardware or past/current experiences they can share? I emailed Adobe to see if they even support CF in a virtual environment I haven't heard back yet. Regards, Jim Blaha ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273658 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
-Original Message- From: James Blaha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? All, VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware? This past week I was asked if Iââ¬â¢d like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPUââ¬â¢s to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. Does anyone have any recommendations virtual verse physical hardware or past/current experiences they can share? I emailed Adobe to see if they even support CF in a virtual environment I havenââ¬â¢t heard back yet. Which OS are we talking about? I've done this on small sites (using Virtual PC Server) for Windows and we use VMWare extensively at the office (large enterprise) and have never had a problem. The keys, I think are: +) You get essentially native disc performance when you dedicate a physical disc/partition to the VM. Virtual discs work fine but are significantly slower. +) Each VM slice get's a specific amount of RAM dedicated to it (no other VM or the host OS can use it). Make sure that this is enough. +) CPU's are shared across VMs - so the number of VMs compared to the number of CPUs should be considered. The best case scenario is a CPU per VM (remembering one for the host OS) that a four CPU box would have no more than three VMs. However this is unlikely (one of the main reasons to virtualize is to do more with less). But if the number is two high (more than two or three VMs running per CPU) or if the VMs on the box are especially resource hungry then the total number should be kept to a minimum. In short you should make sure that your new environment is comparable to your old. One simple solution is to request that benchmarks be run on both environments: even simplistic benchmark data should at least give you an idea. Other than those items (which are really all configuration issues) there's really nothing different. Your VM will be seen as a real PC in every way that matters. I see no reason why Adboe wouldn't support the configuration. Both MS and IBM both support their products on VMs, adobe would seem to be missing the boat if they didn't. Jim Davis ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273663 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
Running anything in VM on the whole will be unsupported. Certainly ColdFusion will not be officially supported in it. I'm not sure this is correct any longer. Some Adobe server products are now explicitly supported for use within VMware ESX. The best thing I can see about VM is licensing, you theoretically would only need to buy one ColdFusion license (depending on box) and you could deloy it across large numbers of VMs whereas a physical machine would require more. That is not true, really. You're only going to be able to run a few VMs on a two-processor box, which is all your CF license allows. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
This past week I was asked if Iââ¬â¢d like to move a perfectly working CF MX Enterprise environment running dual CPUââ¬â¢s to a Huge VMWare ESX Server virtual server environment. Good! A properly configured and managed ESX environment can provide better uptime and reliability that analogous physical hardware. Does anyone have any recommendations virtual verse physical hardware or past/current experiences they can share? I emailed Adobe to see if they even support CF in a virtual environment I havenââ¬â¢t heard back yet. If your current environment is actually using those two processors, the ESX administrator will need to allocate enough CPU time for your VM. Other than that, you should have no problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273672 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
I don't care about other Adobe products at the moment AFAIK and can see, ColdFusion is not officially supported on VM. If it is, it should be in the product listings. We run small domains in ESX, on machines with 20-60GB RAM. If we deloy say 5 ColdFusion licenses on the ESX box with 2 CPUs (and oodles of RAM) then we only need one CF license as far as I can make out. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Mar 25 20:52:02 2007 Subject: RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? Running anything in VM on the whole will be unsupported. Certainly ColdFusion will not be officially supported in it. I'm not sure this is correct any longer. Some Adobe server products are now explicitly supported for use within VMware ESX. The best thing I can see about VM is licensing, you theoretically would only need to buy one ColdFusion license (depending on box) and you could deloy it across large numbers of VMs whereas a physical machine would require more. That is not true, really. You're only going to be able to run a few VMs on a two-processor box, which is all your CF license allows. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273673 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
I don't care about other Adobe products at the moment AFAIK and can see, ColdFusion is not officially supported on VM. If it is, it should be in the product listings. I agree that it should be, but the system requirements on the Adobe product pages don't always reflect this. If you go to the Connect system requirements page, for example, it doesn't say anything about virtualization or 64-bit Windows, both of which are now supported by Connect, but weren't supported by Breeze. We run small domains in ESX, on machines with 20-60GB RAM. If we deloy say 5 ColdFusion licenses on the ESX box with 2 CPUs (and oodles of RAM) then we only need one CF license as far as I can make out. Right, but with only two CPUs, you probably wouldn't be able to support many more VMs. CPU time is going to be your limiting factor. If you added more CPUs to your ESX server, you'd have to purchase an additional CF license. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273674 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
And I would expect that you would only get 1 or 2 (3 at a push) on a decent box with ESX. I am not talking about 10 or so :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Mar 25 20:52:02 2007 Subject: RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? Running anything in VM on the whole will be unsupported. Certainly ColdFusion will not be officially supported in it. I'm not sure this is correct any longer. Some Adobe server products are now explicitly supported for use within VMware ESX. The best thing I can see about VM is licensing, you theoretically would only need to buy one ColdFusion license (depending on box) and you could deloy it across large numbers of VMs whereas a physical machine would require more. That is not true, really. You're only going to be able to run a few VMs on a two-processor box, which is all your CF license allows. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273675 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
That aside, VM-ing is a quality route to take :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Mar 25 23:34:25 2007 Subject: RE: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)? I don't care about other Adobe products at the moment AFAIK and can see, ColdFusion is not officially supported on VM. If it is, it should be in the product listings. I agree that it should be, but the system requirements on the Adobe product pages don't always reflect this. If you go to the Connect system requirements page, for example, it doesn't say anything about virtualization or 64-bit Windows, both of which are now supported by Connect, but weren't supported by Breeze. We run small domains in ESX, on machines with 20-60GB RAM. If we deloy say 5 ColdFusion licenses on the ESX box with 2 CPUs (and oodles of RAM) then we only need one CF license as far as I can make out. Right, but with only two CPUs, you probably wouldn't be able to support many more VMs. CPU time is going to be your limiting factor. If you added more CPUs to your ESX server, you'd have to purchase an additional CF license. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273676 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF (VMWare ESX Server Vs Physical Hardware)?
All, Wow, great information thank you all very much for your time and professional expertise. Youâve all given me a lot to think about. If I make the move to the virtual world with CF Iâll post a follow-up with all the hardware information and some baseline before and after stats. VMWare has been getting some great reviews there was even a great article in the Wall Street Journal about virtualization a few weeks ago. By the way my current hardware environment is a Windows 2003 OS on Dell Intel Hardware. My contention was/is I have other servers running in VM now that are low in IO and work perfect. But they say NEVER though a database or anything IO intensive in VM. It seems the tides may be turning now with new powerful hardware and ESX server setups that are hooked up to SANâs. Stay tuned! Thanks again everyone I greatly appreciate you taking the time! Take care, -Jim ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273678 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
