CF Page Won't Stop Executing
Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button and opened a new CF page? I have pages that continue to execute even after the user hits STOP and REFRESH - so now I have a couple of copies of the same killer page executing at the same time! Am I remembering things wrong, or is this how it is supposed to be? If the latter, then what actually stops a page from executing before it finishes on its own? That sound you hear in the background is the the heap memory on my server slowly being eaten away. My 6th sense sees out of memory and ringing phones in my future. thanks Reed ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 14:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button Don't recall CF6 ever being able to do that. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238081 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
I'm not sure about that either. As for stopping a long running request, use the CF Admin option to stop a page running longer than x seconds. There's also Fusion Reactor or SeeFusion, which can both selectively terminate running CF requests. On 4/19/06, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 14:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button Don't recall CF6 ever being able to do that. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238084 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
Thanks, I was afraid that I was working with old recollections. I've been looking at both FusionReactor and SeeFusion, so now it's time to move forward. I like FusionReactor better because it handle all of the installation itself. SeeFusion is nice because it shows more info on queries, but their installation process is crap - virtually nothing is automated. So I guess the bottom line is that with any of the CFMX versions there is no protection from users getting impatient waiting for a page that legitimately takes a few seconds to process, and repeatedly hit REFRESH? Reed I'm not sure about that either. As for stopping a long running request, use the CF Admin option to stop a page running longer than x seconds. There's also Fusion Reactor or SeeFusion, which can both selectively terminate running CF requests. On 4/19/06, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 14:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button Don't recall CF6 ever being able to do that. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238090 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
Reed, Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button and opened a new CF page? I have pages that continue to execute even after the user hits STOP and REFRESH - so now I have a couple of copies of the same killer page executing at the same time! Am I remembering things wrong, or is this how it is supposed to be? If the latter, then what actually stops a page from executing before it finishes on its own? Clicking Stop in a web browser has never stop the server processing a request, all it does is tells the browser to stop listening for a response. In order to actually kill that process, you'd need access to the Java threads--or use a tool like SeeFusion (http://www.seefusion.com/) which will allow you to kill a running process. -Dan ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
I realize that the STOP alone doesn't have an effect on the currently executing page - but didn't CF (pre-MX I guess) used to stop the current request when it saw a new request from the same browser? I'm pretty sure that I used to be able to stop runnaway pages by hitting STOP and then browsing to another CF page - but maybe I'm just halucinating. Reed, Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button and opened a new CF page? I have pages that continue to execute even after the user hits STOP and REFRESH - so now I have a couple of copies of the same killer page executing at the same time! Am I remembering things wrong, or is this how it is supposed to be? If the latter, then what actually stops a page from executing before it finishes on its own? Clicking Stop in a web browser has never stop the server processing a request, all it does is tells the browser to stop listening for a response. In order to actually kill that process, you'd need access to the Java threads--or use a tool like SeeFusion (http://www.seefusion.com/) which will allow you to kill a running process. -Dan ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238095 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess the bottom line is that with any of the CFMX versions there is no protection from users getting impatient waiting for a page that legitimately takes a few seconds to process, and repeatedly hit REFRESH? Not without rolling your own (set a seesion variable at the top of the page if it's not set, unset it at the footer. If the session variable is present at the top of the page, tell the user to be more patient). -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238097 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that I used to be able to stop runnaway pages by hitting STOP and then browsing to another CF page - but maybe I'm just halucinating. And how did CF know the difference between that, and a multi-frame'd page ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238099 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
I realize that the STOP alone doesn't have an effect on the currently executing page - but didn't CF (pre-MX I guess) used to stop the current request when it saw a new request from the same browser? I'm pretty sure that I used to be able to stop runnaway pages by hitting STOP and then browsing to another CF page - but maybe I'm just halucinating. No. There are a lot better tools for tracking what's happening in processes w/CFMX than there ever was in earlier versions. The one exception to CF killing a thread when a connections is closed might be if you were using CFFLUSH to dump the output stream to the browser. It's possible if the browser has killed the connection and the CFFLUSH goes to process and can't dump out the output stream, that it'll therefore error and kill the process. I have not tested this though, but I could see CF erroring if the connection has closed. -Dan ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238101 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
Hitting the stop button previously only stopped your browser interacting with the server. It still runs any process it was told to before. Eric J. Hoffman Managing Partner 2081 Industrial Blvd StillwaterMN55082 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.ejhassociates.com tel: 651.717.4105 fax: 651.717.4115 mob: 651.245.2717 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are not cf-talk@houseoffusion.com you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Eric J. Hoffman therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Page Won't Stop Executing Am I in the middle of a brain-burp, or is it not in fact the case that CF used to stop executing the current page if the user hit their stop button and opened a new CF page? I have pages that continue to execute even after the user hits STOP and REFRESH - so now I have a couple of copies of the same killer page executing at the same time! Am I remembering things wrong, or is this how it is supposed to be? If the latter, then what actually stops a page from executing before it finishes on its own? That sound you hear in the background is the the heap memory on my server slowly being eaten away. My 6th sense sees out of memory and ringing phones in my future. thanks Reed ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238102 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
On 4/19/06, Dan G. Switzer, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one exception to CF killing a thread when a connections is closed might be if you were using CFFLUSH to dump the output stream to the browser. It's Seems to be hit and miss. I've got a long running page that uses cfflush, sometimes it stops running (when browser go away), mostly it doesn't. Maybe the confusion is in the socketWhatNot error or whatever, that one that happens when they've hit cancel or whatnot when CF tried to send more? That sorta lends to the idea that somehow the browser can effect stuff or whatever. Ball of conciseness this day, ain't I? Apologies... I must need a break. Anybody got a kit-kat? *inhaled-laugh* *groan* :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238234 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Page Won't Stop Executing
Denny, Seems to be hit and miss. I've got a long running page that uses cfflush, sometimes it stops running (when browser go away), mostly it doesn't. Maybe the confusion is in the socketWhatNot error or whatever, that one Thanks for the information. That's pretty much what I figured, but that was the only way I thought that the process might be killed if the connection with the client socket was closed. -Dan ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238236 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
