RE: CF8 Dedicated server recommendations
Those are some really good recommendation, Charlie! ;o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: charles arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF8 Dedicated server recommendations > > > I'm looking for a fairly low-end CF 8 dedicated server setup. I've > > been running with a VPS for a while and I'm starting to outgrow it. > > CF8, MS-SQL, prolly don't need more than 40 GB disk, 2 GB RAM. If > > anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it! > > > > -- Jake > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Dedicated server recommendations
Jake, I can't tell if you're saying you're aware of lists of many CF hosts and want a specific recommendation for your needs, but if you'd be open to having a list of several popular CF hosts, I can point you to one: http://www.cf411.com/#cfhost This is the "ColdFusion Hosting Alternatives" category in my recently announced CF411.com site, which has several hundred resources and tools of interest to CFers, in over 100 categories. Hope it (or the other categories) helps you and all who read this. I created it primarily for just this kind of common request that's asked on lists like this. Check it out, and please spread the word. It's only helpful when people learn of it. :-) /charlie PS I have to admit I don't read or contribute to cf-talk regularly. It's just way too much volume to keep up, but I know it's great stuff. I was alerted to this discussion via a google alert search for references to CF8 (that I'd set up quite a while ago), so I thought I'd drop in an offer this. Sadly, I won't see ongoing discussion in this or other threads, but I hoped that the info may be worth sharing regardless of that. Just trying to help. I'm looking for a fairly low-end CF 8 dedicated server setup. I've > been running with a VPS for a while and I'm starting to outgrow it. > CF8, MS-SQL, prolly don't need more than 40 GB disk, 2 GB RAM. If > anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it! > > -- Jake ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 Dedicated server recommendations
> I'm looking for a fairly low-end CF 8 dedicated server setup. I've > been running with a VPS for a while and I'm starting to outgrow it. > CF8, MS-SQL, prolly don't need more than 40 GB disk, 2 GB RAM. If > anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it! > > -- Jake ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Dedicated server recommendations
I have a dedicated server at CFDynamics. It is pretty cheap for a dedicated server setup and in the year and a half I have had it up and running, I haven't had downtime at all. So their infrastructure has been more stable than anything else I have used to date. We have also been researching some SAS 70 compliant hosts and may be using hostmysite in the near future as well. Dan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF8 Dedicated server recommendations
I'm looking for a fairly low-end CF 8 dedicated server setup. I've been running with a VPS for a while and I'm starting to outgrow it. CF8, MS-SQL, prolly don't need more than 40 GB disk, 2 GB RAM. If anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it! -- Jake ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311819 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SAS 70 Type II dedicated server hosting
Yes, we are SAS70 Type II compliant for dedicated environments. If you'd like a quote on your particular hardware configuration please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SAS 70 Type II dedicated server hosting
I believe HostMySite.com is SAS70 compliant. Try them. > Ok, I have a dedicated server through CFDynamics right now and the need to > have a SAS 70 Type II certification at my host has come up. I have been > trying to find out for a week now if they have that and my guess is that > since they don't seem to know what I am talking about that they don't have it. > > So... Does anyone know of a good place to have a dedicated server hosted at? > It would be running CF8, needs to also have a visual studio.net development > environment, and will have access to a sql server. I saw hostmysite.com has > that certification and they seem to have gotten good reviews. Anyone with any > relevant experience in that area? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308479 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
SAS 70 Type II dedicated server hosting
Ok, I have a dedicated server through CFDynamics right now and the need to have a SAS 70 Type II certification at my host has come up. I have been trying to find out for a week now if they have that and my guess is that since they don't seem to know what I am talking about that they don't have it. So... Does anyone know of a good place to have a dedicated server hosted at? It would be running CF8, needs to also have a visual studio.net development environment, and will have access to a sql server. I saw hostmysite.com has that certification and they seem to have gotten good reviews. Anyone with any relevant experience in that area? Thanks, Dan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308476 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Dedicated Server co-op
still available? - Original Message From: Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:37:09 AM Subject: Dedicated Server co-op I have a dedicated server - mostly for "personal" use... ie, my own web site, opensourcecf.com, cfmbb.org, etc. I currently share the server with 1 other person, and I'm looking for 2-3 other people interested in sharing it. It's a nice little dedicated Linux box at viviotech, unmetered bandwidth (with a 3mbps pipe or something). coldfusion 7.0.2 is currently running on it. As part of the "co-op" you'll get to do whatever you want pretty much... ie, however man web sites you want, plenty of disk space to share, etc. root access if you want it but I'll happily manage it. the cost would be $25/month paid every 6 months. Please email me off list if you're interested. Rick -- CFMBB - Coldfusion Message Boards, Version 1.21 Now Available! http://www.cfmbb.org ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Dedicated Server co-op
I have a dedicated server - mostly for "personal" use... ie, my own web site, opensourcecf.com, cfmbb.org, etc. I currently share the server with 1 other person, and I'm looking for 2-3 other people interested in sharing it. It's a nice little dedicated Linux box at viviotech, unmetered bandwidth (with a 3mbps pipe or something). coldfusion 7.0.2 is currently running on it. As part of the "co-op" you'll get to do whatever you want pretty much... ie, however man web sites you want, plenty of disk space to share, etc. root access if you want it but I'll happily manage it. the cost would be $25/month paid every 6 months. Please email me off list if you're interested. Rick -- CFMBB - Coldfusion Message Boards, Version 1.21 Now Available! http://www.cfmbb.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dedicated Server
I hear ya Gilbert. Definitely, choose whats best for your business man and keep chugging. :) Good luck, Rey... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237673 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
I have run my own servers for several years now. It gives me huge flexibility and plenty of room for innovation. However, I am coming to the same conclusion that you have regarding client sites. Have just set up a site on a virtual shared server at Godaddy.com and am very impressed with all they offer and the prices charged. I am happy to endorse a great service. Cheers, Martyn On 4/13/2006 12:57:06 PM, Gilbert Midonnet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I don't think I'll go the license route. > > I do freelance work for my big money making clients. However I now have > over 20 small clients. > I'm getting to the point where it makes sense to > consider a dedicated -- or more precisely a virtual dedicated server. > > We're > a two person shop and have no time, nor inclination, to do even > one minute of work setting up or maintaining a server. (Taking care of > our dev boxes ... ummm laptops is enough) :-) > > Many of our clients just need a simple password protected area (at most > 2 or 3 levels) to protect their admin area and to separate the > principals from the staff. At some point it ceases making sense to have > separate accounts for each client and to host them all on one server, > share MS SQL databases, etc... > > Gil > > > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:10 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Dedicated Server > > Hi Ken, > > I think Rick and Matt have done a wonderful job of providing a different > > perspective to your post. > > I'm not here to go tit-for-tat over BD vs. CFMX. I offered a no-cost > alternative ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237658 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
I don't think I'll go the license route. I do freelance work for my big money making clients. However I now have over 20 small clients. I'm getting to the point where it makes sense to consider a dedicated -- or more precisely a virtual dedicated server. We're a two person shop and have no time, nor inclination, to do even one minute of work setting up or maintaining a server. (Taking care of our dev boxes ... ummm laptops is enough) :-) Many of our clients just need a simple password protected area (at most 2 or 3 levels) to protect their admin area and to separate the principals from the staff. At some point it ceases making sense to have separate accounts for each client and to host them all on one server, share MS SQL databases, etc... Gil -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dedicated Server Hi Ken, I think Rick and Matt have done a wonderful job of providing a different perspective to your post. I'm not here to go tit-for-tat over BD vs. CFMX. I offered a no-cost alternative to Gilbert so that he can get his dedicated server setup to run CFML. Its up to him to determine whether he needs to buy a license or not but if he doesn't, he'll have a good choice to work with in BlueDragon. Rey... Ken Ferguson wrote: > from: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm > "BlueDragon Server is FREE for non-commercial (non-SSL) deployment." > > So basically it's free if you're not using it to make money, I guess. > I'm not sure I see all that much benefit in that to be honest. Sure, > it's free for your blog or your family photo album. I think the fact > that BD was initially free without this restriction was just meant to be > a great big hook, like the crack dealer who gives away a couple freebies > before he jacks your addicted brain for money later down the line. Smart > move I guess. If you buy JX, then you save a few hundred bucks off of > CFMX 7 Standard, but while some may be there, you don't get to benefit > from all the new things New Atlanta didn't get into the current version > that CF has. So other than using it to host my neighborhood message > board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. > > --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237657 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
Hi Ken, I think Rick and Matt have done a wonderful job of providing a different perspective to your post. I'm not here to go tit-for-tat over BD vs. CFMX. I offered a no-cost alternative to Gilbert so that he can get his dedicated server setup to run CFML. Its up to him to determine whether he needs to buy a license or not but if he doesn't, he'll have a good choice to work with in BlueDragon. Rey... Ken Ferguson wrote: > from: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm > "BlueDragon Server is FREE for non-commercial (non-SSL) deployment." > > So basically it's free if you're not using it to make money, I guess. > I'm not sure I see all that much benefit in that to be honest. Sure, > it's free for your blog or your family photo album. I think the fact > that BD was initially free without this restriction was just meant to be > a great big hook, like the crack dealer who gives away a couple freebies > before he jacks your addicted brain for money later down the line. Smart > move I guess. If you buy JX, then you save a few hundred bucks off of > CFMX 7 Standard, but while some may be there, you don't get to benefit > from all the new things New Atlanta didn't get into the current version > that CF has. So other than using it to host my neighborhood message > board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. > > --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237637 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
That's true. I even started using it at my last company with an eye to moving to it for good. It was free then and I was using it for a commercial site. I talked with them several times and was actually told at one point to expect commercial and SSL uses not to remain free for the long term. --Ferg Matt Robertson wrote: > On 4/12/06, Rick Root wrote: > >> well they didn't really pull it out from under us... it was always free >> for non-commercial use they just clarified the license. >> > > Actually thats not correct. This came up here several months ago. The first > version we heard (or rather someone heard from their phone staff) was the > 'clarification' version. When that caused an uproar here -- they were shown > to be on record in many places acknowledging and even touting that the free > product could be used in commercial deployment -- they came out and said up > front it was a deliberate change. > > Which is fine, although Ken's points are solid ones. I hope it works out > well for them. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237622 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
On 4/12/06, Rick Root wrote: > well they didn't really pull it out from under us... it was always free > for non-commercial use they just clarified the license. Actually thats not correct. This came up here several months ago. The first version we heard (or rather someone heard from their phone staff) was the 'clarification' version. When that caused an uproar here -- they were shown to be on record in many places acknowledging and even touting that the free product could be used in commercial deployment -- they came out and said up front it was a deliberate change. Which is fine, although Ken's points are solid ones. I hope it works out well for them. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237620 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
well they didn't really pull it out from under us... it was always free for non-commercial use they just clarified the license. I was never under any belief that I could use bluedragon server free edition for whatever I wanted - even when it still included SSL support. rick Ken Ferguson wrote: > I wouldn't, for one second, blame them for wanting to make money. That > wasn't my intention at all. I really do dislike it though, when people > pull that whole "oh look it's free" thing and then change that up down > the line a bit. It'd be like if MySQL came out tomorrow and said that > from now on if you're using MySQL in a commercial app, you're going to > have to pay 85% of the price it would cost you to buy Oracle or SQL > Server. That would not be cool. That's my only complaint. > > --Ferg > > Matt Robertson wrote: > >>On 4/12/06, Ken Ferguson wrote: >> >> >>>... So other than using it to host my neighborhood message >>>board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. >>> >> >>I can't blame them for wanting to make money off of their hard work, >>but the license change does raise the bar for them significantly in >>terms of product performance and, most importantly, code >>compatibility. >> >>-- >>--mattRobertson-- >>Janitor, MSB Web Systems >>mysecretbase.com >> >> > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237617 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
I wouldn't, for one second, blame them for wanting to make money. That wasn't my intention at all. I really do dislike it though, when people pull that whole "oh look it's free" thing and then change that up down the line a bit. It'd be like if MySQL came out tomorrow and said that from now on if you're using MySQL in a commercial app, you're going to have to pay 85% of the price it would cost you to buy Oracle or SQL Server. That would not be cool. That's my only complaint. --Ferg Matt Robertson wrote: > On 4/12/06, Ken Ferguson wrote: > >> ... So other than using it to host my neighborhood message >> board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. >> > > I can't blame them for wanting to make money off of their hard work, > but the license change does raise the bar for them significantly in > terms of product performance and, most importantly, code > compatibility. > > -- > --mattRobertson-- > Janitor, MSB Web Systems > mysecretbase.com > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237616 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
Ken Ferguson wrote: > from: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm > "BlueDragon Server is FREE for non-commercial (non-SSL) deployment." > > So basically it's free if you're not using it to make money, I guess. Well, no, "basically" it's free for non-commercial use. You can't use bluedragon free server in any commercial environment, regardless of whether or not you're using it to make money. You couldn't legally run a message board on your corporate intranet using the free edition of bluedragon. > I'm not sure I see all that much benefit in that to be honest. Sure, > it's free for your blog or your family photo album. I think the fact > that BD was initially free without this restriction was just meant to be > a great big hook, like the crack dealer who gives away a couple freebies > before he jacks your addicted brain for money later down the line. Smart > move I guess. If you buy JX, then you save a few hundred bucks off of > CFMX 7 Standard, but while some may be there, you don't get to benefit > from all the new things New Atlanta didn't get into the current version > that CF has. So other than using it to host my neighborhood message > board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. I would mostly agree with this except that Bluedragon JX allows you to integrate servlets and JSPs, where you would need CFMX Enterprise for that. Bluedragon can also be redistributed. Coldfusion cannot. You can build an application and sell it in a single installation package that installs everything needed including Bluedragon. With coldfusion, you have to instruct them to purchase and install CFMX, *THEN* install your application. Bluedragon JX offers sourceless deployment (I think) while you need CFMX Enterprise for that. There are of course many things that bluedragon 6.2 does not offer - event gateways, flash forms, cfreport, cfdocument, etc. I chose CFMX 7 for my dedicated server... but I have numerous clients using VPS accounts that don't need the power of CFMX so I've got Bluedragon JX on those VPS accounts because viviotech provides Bluedragon JX at no additional cost for VPS accounts, but charges additional for CFMX. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237598 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
On 4/12/06, Ken Ferguson wrote: >... So other than using it to host my neighborhood message > board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. I can't blame them for wanting to make money off of their hard work, but the license change does raise the bar for them significantly in terms of product performance and, most importantly, code compatibility. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237596 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
from: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/pricing.cfm "BlueDragon Server is FREE for non-commercial (non-SSL) deployment." So basically it's free if you're not using it to make money, I guess. I'm not sure I see all that much benefit in that to be honest. Sure, it's free for your blog or your family photo album. I think the fact that BD was initially free without this restriction was just meant to be a great big hook, like the crack dealer who gives away a couple freebies before he jacks your addicted brain for money later down the line. Smart move I guess. If you buy JX, then you save a few hundred bucks off of CFMX 7 Standard, but while some may be there, you don't get to benefit from all the new things New Atlanta didn't get into the current version that CF has. So other than using it to host my neighborhood message board or some such, I can't really find much use for it. --Ferg OÄuz_Demirkapı wrote: > Are there any free version of BD anymore? > > As I know after BD 6.2, license policy has been changed for commercial sites. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237589 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
Are there any free version of BD anymore? As I know after BD 6.2, license policy has been changed for commercial sites. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 19:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dedicated Server Its not. They offer dedicated servers. You'll need a license to CF or BD in order to run CF applications. If you need a dedicated host that can provide you with that, then you should consider Alurium (BD Hosting), CFDynamics, or CFXHosting. Just keep in mind that most of these will charge you for the CFMX or BD license if you need one. I went with iWeb.ca because of their support and reliability. Being a member of the BlueDragon Alliance, I have my own copy of BD so I was all set. An option for you would be to choose a host such as iWeb.ca and use the free version of BD for you CF needs. Rey... Gilbert Midonnet wrote: > I'm looking for dedicated server space as well. iWeb.ca doesn't look as > if itâs a CF shop. > > > Gil > > > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Dedicated Server > > I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca > > Rey... > > Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > >>Hi, >> >> >> >>I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private >>websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) >> >> >> >>I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to > > have a > >>new solution that would be more independent from my company. >> >> >> >>Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that > > has > >>MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find > > a > >>server Windows on it. >> >> >> >>Any suggestion? >> >> >> >> >> >>Sincerely, >> >> >> >>Oðuz Demirkapý >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237578 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
Its not. They offer dedicated servers. You'll need a license to CF or BD in order to run CF applications. If you need a dedicated host that can provide you with that, then you should consider Alurium (BD Hosting), CFDynamics, or CFXHosting. Just keep in mind that most of these will charge you for the CFMX or BD license if you need one. I went with iWeb.ca because of their support and reliability. Being a member of the BlueDragon Alliance, I have my own copy of BD so I was all set. An option for you would be to choose a host such as iWeb.ca and use the free version of BD for you CF needs. Rey... Gilbert Midonnet wrote: > I'm looking for dedicated server space as well. iWeb.ca doesn't look as > if its a CF shop. > > > Gil > > > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Dedicated Server > > I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca > > Rey... > > Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > >>Hi, >> >> >> >>I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private >>websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) >> >> >> >>I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to > > have a > >>new solution that would be more independent from my company. >> >> >> >>Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that > > has > >>MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find > > a > >>server Windows on it. >> >> >> >>Any suggestion? >> >> >> >> >> >>Sincerely, >> >> >> >>Oðuz Demirkapý >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
I'm looking for dedicated server space as well. iWeb.ca doesn't look as if its a CF shop. Gil -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dedicated Server I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca Rey... Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private > websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) > > > > I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a > new solution that would be more independent from my company. > > > > Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has > MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a > server Windows on it. > > > > Any suggestion? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Oðuz Demirkapý > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237424 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server
Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > > I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private > websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) > > I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a > new solution that would be more independent from my company. > > Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has > MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a > server Windows on it. I've been very very happy with my dedicated linux server at Viviotech. They start their dedicated servers at $69/month ... I upgraded to the $99/month plan myself to get the extra memory and mirrored hard drives. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237367 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
Thanks! I think it is better to let you know what I have found until now. The best alternative is with following conditions. http://www.strato.de/server/windows/ Athlonâ¢64 3200+, 1GB RAM, 2.000 GB traffic, 2 x 80 GB (RAID 1) HDD, Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup 49 ⬠Monthly 69 ⬠(~84 USD) BUT No domain management software such as Plesk etc. No mail server software (default Microsoft POP service) Now you would suggest a comparable alternative. TIA! OÄuz Demirkapı -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 10. April 2006 18:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dedicated Server I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca Rey... Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private > websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) > > > > I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a > new solution that would be more independent from my company. > > > > Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has > MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a > server Windows on it. > > > > Any suggestion? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Oðuz Demirkapý > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca Rey... Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private > websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) > > > > I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a > new solution that would be more independent from my company. > > > > Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has > MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a > server Windows on it. > > > > Any suggestion? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Oðuz Demirkapý > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Dedicated Server
Hi, I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a new solution that would be more independent from my company. Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a server Windows on it. Any suggestion? Sincerely, Oðuz Demirkapý ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237354 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
Glad I'm not the only one with that experience. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting I've always stuck with Pentiums and it has saved me a few times when Application providers have tried to blame the processor, hard for them to say they didn't test on an Intel. My impression of Celeron is that they are terribly slow. Jenny -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2006 22:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Burns, John D wrote: >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron >processors. > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230822 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting - VIVIOTECH
applemicro wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? I've been VERY happy with Vivio Technologies. Good service, good prices. I have a dedicated server with them, and several of my clients have their own VPS accounts as well. http://www.viviotech.net/hosting.cfm?rid=rickroot (yea yeah yeah I'm an affiliate ;) Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230820 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I have a dual-xeon dedicated server at the price of a single Penitum 4. Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz 1GB RAM 2 GB Memory Cache 2x250 GB Hard Drives (bought the hard drives and had them shipped to company) 500 GB Bandwidth Root Access 100% Managed Linux Enterprise 3.0 (bought and shipped) ColdFusion MX 7 (bought and installed) Flash Media Server (bought and installed) Price: $180/month The company is http://aventurehosting.co.uk I have been with them for over two years now and have nothing but good to say about their live support and helpdesk system. I have asked them to run BlueDragon Server on their shared boxes but they said they do not get enough requests for CFML support. If everyone on this list would flood their email with CFML support requests on their shared boxes they would probably install it. Their semi-dedicated and shared hosting packages are the most affordable I've seen and they come with lots of hard drive space and are on dedicated-xeon servers. I just wish they supported CFML on their shared accounts because I have several personal projects I would like migrate from PHP (sic) to CFML. -Aaron On 1/30/06, Jennifer Gavin-Wear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've always stuck with Pentiums and it has saved me a few times when > Application providers have tried to blame the processor, hard for them to > say they didn't test on an Intel. My impression of Celeron is that they are > terribly slow. > > Jenny > > -Original Message- > From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 January 2006 22:19 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > > > Burns, John D wrote: > > >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on > >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron > >processors. > > > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see > a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them > almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. > > -- > Warm regards, > Jordan Michaels > Vivio Technologies > http://www.viviotech.net/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230791 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
> -Original Message- > From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > > I've always stuck with Pentiums and it has saved me a few times when > Application providers have tried to blame the processor, hard for them to > say they didn't test on an Intel. My impression of Celeron is that they > are > terribly slow. That's not particularly warranted. The first Celeron processor ever had no L2 cache - it WAS terribly slow. But the some three dozen since have been pretty good chips. Not as fast as Pentiums at the same clock but only slightly slower. Here's a good overview: http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/02/17/benchmark_marathon/ Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230790 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
> -Original Message- > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > > Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on > that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron > processors. And unless I told you you'd know the difference how. ;^) The server is low-end - and has a very low end price. But it happily serves my half dozen sites without complaint or problem. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230789 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
I've always stuck with Pentiums and it has saved me a few times when Application providers have tried to blame the processor, hard for them to say they didn't test on an Intel. My impression of Celeron is that they are terribly slow. Jenny -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2006 22:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Burns, John D wrote: >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron >processors. > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230787 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
I've just signed up with www.Vortechhosting.com Dedicated P4 2.6ghz 1gb/40gb. Running pretty well so far, just signed up last week. Support seems ok, but not been with them long enough to pass serious judgement. Price is $120 a month usd and includes Windows 2003 Server, Standard Edition. got CF, SQL2000, mdaemon and all sorts else running very smoothly. Jenny -Original Message- From: applemicro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2006 20:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? Thanks ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230785 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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It's all in the chip cache and bus speeds. Pentiums are typically double the cache size and have around 30% faster bus -e. -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Yeah, my dedicated servers are Pentium. I would prefer Xeon, but I at least feel comfortable with pentium. Most of my experience with Celerons were in the desktop environment and I could have a Pentium 800 mhz machine and a Celeron 800 mhz machine sitting side by side with the same setup and the pentium would blow it away. I don't know all of the technical aspects as to why, but I've just equated the word celeron with bad in my memory. I could be wrong though. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Burns, John D wrote: >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron >processors. > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230783 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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They arenet bad.. your best bet is to peruse their forums imo. I don't think they have CF7 btw. atomi On 1/30/06, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any experience with http://www.jodohost.com ? > They've got good prices, but I don't have any experience with their > support. > > ~Brad > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230782 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
Yeah, my dedicated servers are Pentium. I would prefer Xeon, but I at least feel comfortable with pentium. Most of my experience with Celerons were in the desktop environment and I could have a Pentium 800 mhz machine and a Celeron 800 mhz machine sitting side by side with the same setup and the pentium would blow it away. I don't know all of the technical aspects as to why, but I've just equated the word celeron with bad in my memory. I could be wrong though. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Burns, John D wrote: >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron >processors. > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230781 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Any experience with http://www.jodohost.com ? They've got good prices, but I don't have any experience with their support. ~Brad ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230780 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
Burns, John D wrote: >Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on >that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron >processors. > So what CPU type do you prefer? Just a curiosity question really. I see a lot of celerons in low-end servers these days - you can get them almost anywhere and their prices are hard to beat. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230779 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
I've used rackspace. Great support and such. Prices are a little higher, but it's kind of a hybrid of you having full control of the server and them maintaining it 100%. Their support is awesome. The real money comes when you start upgrading stuff. Everything is priced per month and it adds up quick. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: applemicro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? Thanks ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230778 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Ewww, a celeron! :-) I don't think I could bear to host anything on that. That's just me though. Lots of bad experiences with celeron processors. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > -Original Message- > From: applemicro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? I like www.CrystalTech.com - I have a dedicate Celeron 2.26Ghz, 80 Gig disk and 512 Meg of Ram from them (with shared SQL server and lots of extras) for $80 a month. I've not seen anybody else even remotely as economical and you get quality service to boot. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230777 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
> -Original Message- > From: applemicro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? I like www.CrystalTech.com - I have a dedicate Celeron 2.26Ghz, 80 Gig disk and 512 Meg of Ram from them (with shared SQL server and lots of extras) for $80 a month. I've not seen anybody else even remotely as economical and you get quality service to boot. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230776 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
I've had really good luck w/ Serverbeach. -Joe On 1/30/06, applemicro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? > > Thanks > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230771 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Suggestions For dedicated Server hosting
Does anyone have any suggestions for a dedicated hosting provider? Thanks ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230770 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server Recommendations
Michael T. Tangorre wrote: > >>From: Kristopher Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>I use Superb Servers and love them! >>http://services.superb.net/affiliate.php?affiliate=1877 > > > Of course you do "affiliate.php?affiliate=1877" :-) I'm a big fan of Viviotech for both VPS and dedicated servers. http://www.viviotech.net/hosting.cfm?rid=rickroot - (cough cough) I have a dedicated "Premium Root" account which I like because it's got mirrored hard drives. Most "cheap dedicated" servers have just a single hard drive in my experience. Two of my oldest clients have VPS accounts as well (www.bobguiney.com and www.19wheels.com). They provide excellent customer service. Rick ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220615 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server Recommendations
>I've got a dedicated with CT and I've never had a single problem. Same here... ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220603 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server Recommendations
Actually I really do love them. I have 2 servers there and on my way to a 3rd. Affiliate or not, I would not stay with them if I had any issues... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dedicated Server Recommendations > From: Kristopher Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I use Superb Servers and love them! > http://services.superb.net/affiliate.php?affiliate=1877 Of course you do "affiliate.php?affiliate=1877" :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220600 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server Recommendations
> From: Kristopher Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I use Superb Servers and love them! > http://services.superb.net/affiliate.php?affiliate=1877 Of course you do "affiliate.php?affiliate=1877" :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220599 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dedicated Server Recommendations
I've got a dedicated with CT and I've never had a single problem. --Ferg Kristopher Pilles wrote: >I use Superb Servers and love them! > >http://services.superb.net/affiliate.php?affiliate=1877 > >-Original Message- >From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:07 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Dedicated Server Recommendations > > >I am looking for a dedicated server hosting service for relatively >low-volume applications. > >My primary need is a general Windows FILE SERVER to support about 6-8 >staff members remotely over a VPN - similar to running an in-house >network server. > > >However, will also be running CFMX, web apps, SugarCRM, SQL-Server, >MySQL, etc. > >I am currently hosting several shared web sites on CrystalTech, and am >tempted to go with them for the dedicated server (the evil you know ...) > >Any recommendations or comments would be greatly appreciated, since I >have not done this sort of thing before. > >TNX for any thoughts. > >Rick Colman > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220598 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server Recommendations
I use Superb Servers and love them! http://services.superb.net/affiliate.php?affiliate=1877 -Original Message- From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Dedicated Server Recommendations I am looking for a dedicated server hosting service for relatively low-volume applications. My primary need is a general Windows FILE SERVER to support about 6-8 staff members remotely over a VPN - similar to running an in-house network server. However, will also be running CFMX, web apps, SugarCRM, SQL-Server, MySQL, etc. I am currently hosting several shared web sites on CrystalTech, and am tempted to go with them for the dedicated server (the evil you know ...) Any recommendations or comments would be greatly appreciated, since I have not done this sort of thing before. TNX for any thoughts. Rick Colman ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220595 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Dedicated Server Recommendations
I am looking for a dedicated server hosting service for relatively low-volume applications. My primary need is a general Windows FILE SERVER to support about 6-8 staff members remotely over a VPN - similar to running an in-house network server. However, will also be running CFMX, web apps, SugarCRM, SQL-Server, MySQL, etc. I am currently hosting several shared web sites on CrystalTech, and am tempted to go with them for the dedicated server (the evil you know ...) Any recommendations or comments would be greatly appreciated, since I have not done this sort of thing before. TNX for any thoughts. Rick Colman ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220593 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re Help with Dedicated Server
I don't know what happened to my original reply 1 1/2 days ago but here it is as it should have been. This is a difficult one to answer as things like people's opinions about hosters, who's good-bad and why etc get in the way. I spent some time working as a consultant with Allaire so I saw a lot of different environments and set-ups here is my opinion and point of view from those experiences. BANDWIDTH I'll start at the end, with regard to bandwidth needs if the new installation application will be the same or similar to the current "on two servers running CF server 4.5" get your current bandwidth usage from that set up. MOVING - It looks like you are moving from a clustered environment to a single server? "web site to a dedicated server". I would not do that it is a retrograde step however accept my apologies if I misunderstood your email. If the new environment will have two servers make sure they are as similar as possible and if you are not using it use the clustering software that comes with ColdFusion, I would start to use it. It is good for up to 8 servers in a cluster and is native to ColdFusion. COLDFUSION 5 DEDICATED vs COLOCATION. Again from my experience I would avoid a fully managed service where ColdFusion is included. That is because a lot of the Managed Services people don't know much about ColdFusion and also often slap restrictions on what you can and cannot do. To be fair this is far more prevalent in the really big hosting companies. I much prefer to own and run ColdFusion myself, however if you don't have a lot of ColdFusion expertise in-house you will be better off getting a fully managed service with a hosting company who really knows ColdFusion. If you go that route ask for some client referrals. REMOTE MANAGEMENT - Over the years I have used PC Anywhere in a Windows Setting for this and have found it to be the best around. In Unix I simply use Telnet and sometimes xWindows software. ONE HAND CLAPPING - This is the toughest but I do have a sort of suggestion. I have seen and heard Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan do very magical things with one hand, a Stratocaster and a Marshall stack (or two). Find some old videos/dvd's/cd's look listen and enjoy it. I hope this is of some help to you. Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages." -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Help with dedicated server
Most ISPs that offer dedicated services also rent you all the software as well, so in most cases you don't need to buy anything. That should be included in the monthly lease. Two servers is probably going to run you between $1600-$2000 per month for a decent ISP, but you can get it much cheaper if you go with a smaller network. You can manage your servers with PC Anywhere. You need at least a cable modem connection to do that effectively. The sound of one hand clapping would depend upon the friction of the air, water, or whatever surface it's clapping against. You should know what your expected traffic levels are upfront based upon the logs you should already be keeping. This will be a factor in pricing. For example, if you're running a porn site, you're probably going to pay high fees for excess bandwidth charges. Keep in mind that a lot of hosting companies are in trouble right now because the whole internet economy is in a slump. Just because a company is big doesn't mean that they are stable. With that in mind, always have a backup plan. If you can afford the hardware and software, I recommend bringing everything inhouse. If you need a more detailed analysis, I have a document I prepared for one of my previous clients which goes into much deeper detail - email me directly if you're interested. ---mark -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Help with dedicated server
Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages." -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Dedicated Server
Hi, Anyone has any recommendation of which hosting company provides affordable CF dedicated servers? Thanks! Hong ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
Agreed!!! Dave - Original Message - From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space If you are doing $150 in sales a month then you are not getting enough traffic and thus you do not need to upgrade. What I am saying is if the traffic and performance warrants an upgrade then you should be able to afford it. The exception is if you have a large number of people coming to your site but none of them are buying anything. In which case you need to worry about your business and less about your servers. At 11:00 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >I don't think it has to do with money. > >I can't agree! It has EVERYTING to do with money. If you have a site >that's generating $150 in sales per month, why in the world >would you have a dedicated server? It's gonnna cost you 10 times that to >have it hosted - regardless of performance! > > > >At 09:59 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated > >server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared > >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have > >your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're > >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order > >business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. > >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this > >matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > > > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > > > >= > >"Technology" is stuff that was invented after > >you were born. > > > >David Hannum > > > > > >- > - > >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > >To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or > >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in > >the body. > >-- >Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Technical Director 606.245.9656 >squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. -- Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director 606.245.9656 squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
If you are doing $150 in sales a month then you are not getting enough traffic and thus you do not need to upgrade. What I am saying is if the traffic and performance warrants an upgrade then you should be able to afford it. The exception is if you have a large number of people coming to your site but none of them are buying anything. In which case you need to worry about your business and less about your servers. At 11:00 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >I don't think it has to do with money. > >I can't agree! It has EVERYTING to do with money. If you have a site >that's generating $150 in sales per month, why in the world >would you have a dedicated server? It's gonnna cost you 10 times that to >have it hosted - regardless of performance! > > > >At 09:59 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated > >server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared > >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have > >your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're > >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order > >business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. > >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this > >matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > > > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > > > >= > >"Technology" is stuff that was invented after > >you were born. > > > >David Hannum > > > > > >- > - > >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > >To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or > >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in > >the body. > >-- >Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Technical Director 606.245.9656 >squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. -- Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director 606.245.9656 squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
Thanks for the advice! = "Technology" is stuff that was invented after you were born. David Hannum Web Analyst/Programmer Ohio University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (740) 597-2524 - Original Message - From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space My recommendations are: "outsource at the start" and as long as it makes sense to do so. Concentrate your efforts (and those of the client) in getting operational as soon as possible, meeting customer needs, and getting a ROI. Don't start by hiring installing a bunch of infrastructure with a long lead time and delayed payback. Pick an outsource host, developer, etc. who can evolve with the client from simple site hosting dedicated servers co-location client site installation & training This way you are putting the priority on results (where it should be)... the needs of the system will evolve as the results are realized. At 9:59 AM -0600 3/27/2000, Dave Hannum wrote: >Hello, > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own >dedicated server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to >have your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail >order business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in >this matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > >Thanks, >Dave -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
[Excuse the rambling nature of this - I'm in a hurry] In my mind it's more of a question of server stability. I've found that most shared environments are not at all reliable (relative, of course). Many clients do their testing on the live server, and we all know what that means. Ever seen someone cache a query with unique naming inside a huge loop? Does wonders for virtual memory :-) If the client needs 24/7 uptime, a dedicated server is the only way to go. Given that the client is in the mail-order business, e-commerce is a pretty natural extension of the business. I'd expect that their revenue will easily incorporate the cost of co-locating a box with an ISP somewhere (or a lease, etc). The biggest drawback to co-location is in many cases you have to manage the box yourself, though some ISPs offer management as well. That being said, if the client is really unsure of the profitability of the web site, you could find an ISP that offers shared hosting on a redundant platform (load balancing, clustering, etc). The cost of that type of service will probably be higher in the medium term than a co-located box, however. Good luck! - Original Message - From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space > Hello, > > At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared > server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're > willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. > They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > > Thanks, > Dave > > > = > "Technology" is stuff that was invented after > you were born. > > David Hannum > > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
>I don't think it has to do with money. I can't agree! It has EVERYTING to do with money. If you have a site that's generating $150 in sales per month, why in the world would you have a dedicated server? It's gonnna cost you 10 times that to have it hosted - regardless of performance! At 09:59 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Hello, > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated >server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have >your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order >business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this >matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > >Thanks, >Dave > > >= >"Technology" is stuff that was invented after >you were born. > >David Hannum > > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. -- Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director 606.245.9656 squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
I don't think it has to do with money. I think it has more to do with what you want from your servers. If you are not getting the performance you want then it is time to move. The way I see it once you are getting the amount of traffic to have your own server(s) then you should be able to afford it. At 09:59 AM 3/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Hello, > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated >server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have >your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order >business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this >matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > >Thanks, >Dave > > >= >"Technology" is stuff that was invented after >you were born. > >David Hannum > > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. -- Nick McClure[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director 606.245.9656 squareFish Mediawww.squareFish.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
My recommendations are: "outsource at the start" and as long as it makes sense to do so. Concentrate your efforts (and those of the client) in getting operational as soon as possible, meeting customer needs, and getting a ROI. Don't start by hiring installing a bunch of infrastructure with a long lead time and delayed payback. Pick an outsource host, developer, etc. who can evolve with the client from simple site hosting dedicated servers co-location client site installation & training This way you are putting the priority on results (where it should be)... the needs of the system will evolve as the results are realized. At 9:59 AM -0600 3/27/2000, Dave Hannum wrote: >Hello, > >At what revenue point should a business look at either their own >dedicated server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared >server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to >have your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're >willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail >order business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. >They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in >this matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. > >Thanks, >Dave -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Dedicated Server vs. Shared Space
Hello, At what revenue point should a business look at either their own dedicated server (on site or co-located) vs an account on a shared server with an ISP? Where does it become financially expedient to have your own server? What dollar amount? Any advice you're willing to share is appreciated. I have a customer who has a mail order business doing $3 million annually from a paper catalog. They're ready for the web and I dont know what to advise them in this matter. Shared hosting or dedicated server. Thanks, Dave = "Technology" is stuff that was invented after you were born. David Hannum -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
