Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> How do you set up your database tables using the bindings > tab when you have to sign on using RDS and BlueDragon does > not support it. Does this not disable a big feature of > dreamweaver mx when using BlueDragon or am I missing > something simple? Yes, it disable that feature Massimo Foti http://www.massimocorner.com Co-Author of Dreamweaver MX 2004 Magic: http://www.dwmagic.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> Yes, it disable that feature > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and Dreamweaver? davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and > Dreamweaver? Not having the Binding Panel enabled doesn't prevent you from making any database work :-) After all, you just edit text file, you could easily get rid of DW at all and still be happy (many do) Massimo Foti http://www.massimocorner.com Co-Author of Dreamweaver MX 2004 Magic: http://www.dwmagic.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
I use DWMX for all my coding but I don't think I've ever used it's features for 'database' work, preferring to do it by hand... -Original Message- From: David Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > Yes, it disable that feature > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and Dreamweaver? davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
do it by hand. for sure. much faster/better/easier than any other ide could give you -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX I use DWMX for all my coding but I don't think I've ever used it's features for 'database' work, preferring to do it by hand... -Original Message- From: David Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > Yes, it disable that feature > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and Dreamweaver? davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Plus you're in control of what's being written!!! -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX do it by hand. for sure. much faster/better/easier than any other ide could give you -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX I use DWMX for all my coding but I don't think I've ever used it's features for 'database' work, preferring to do it by hand... -Original Message- From: David Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > Yes, it disable that feature > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and Dreamweaver? davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> > Yes, it disable that feature > > > > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and > Dreamweaver? We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have disabled RDS for security reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this boat. We write our own code. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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> Plus you're in control of what's being written!!! > You can use any code generator and still retain full control of what's being written. It just require an extra investment since you need to know the way the code generator works and tweak it to fit your needs (DW is very extensible). BTW CF MX is, in the end, a very sophisticated Java code generator, still nobody complains for not being control of the Java code it writes :-))) Massimo Foti http://www.massimocorner.com Co-Author of Dreamweaver MX 2004 Magic: http://www.dwmagic.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
very interesting.. Altought I do code by hand I also sometimes find the feature in the binding panels very handy to use. I have also posted this on the blueDragon list so see what there response is. > We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have > disabled RDS for security > reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this > boat. > > We write our own code. > > -Kevin davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
I can't remember the last time I used RDS. There's a terrific tool called Aqua Data Studio (www.aquafold.com) that I use instead. It provides support for every major database as well as ODBC, and has a terrific query generator, data editor, and other DB-related tools. It's a very nice way to preflight SQL queries before inserting the code into a CF template, whether you use CFMX, BD, or CFAS 5 or before. And you can work with Oracle, MS SQL, and MySQL databases all in the same interface. AND it runs in Windows, Linux & MacOS. - Jeff On 10 Mar 2004 at 11:11, David Berry wrote: > very interesting.. Altought I do code by hand I also > sometimes find the feature in the binding panels very handy > to use. I have also posted this on the blueDragon list so > see what there response is. > > > > We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have > > disabled RDS for security > > reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this > > boat. > > > > We write our own code. > > > > -Kevin > davidBerry > BerryNet Design > Cell: 517-204-5454 > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Actually, the cool part of using DWMX (and CFS) here is that you can see the table/column names within the IDE. Not the generation of code! Calvin - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:46 AM Subject: RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX do it by hand. for sure. much faster/better/easier than any other ide could give you -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX I use DWMX for all my coding but I don't think I've ever used it's features for 'database' work, preferring to do it by hand... -Original Message- From: David Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2004 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > Yes, it disable that feature > Then how do you do any database work using BlueDragon and Dreamweaver? davidBerry BerryNet Design Cell: 517-204-5454 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Most databases have associated GUI tools that have way more power than DWMX ever will. For example, I have never used a more powerful GUI for use with SQL Server than Enterprise Manager. Most people are amazed when I show them some of the things it can do that they were relying on DWMX or Access for. -Matt On Mar 10, 2004, at 11:11 AM, David Berry wrote: > very interesting.. Altought I do code by hand I also > sometimes find the feature in the binding panels very handy > to use. I have also posted this on the blueDragon list so > see what there response is. > > > We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have > > disabled RDS for security > > reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this > > boat. > > > > We write our own code. > > > > -Kevin > davidBerry > BerryNet Design > Cell: 517-204-5454 > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Yep, I use the same. It rocks. Stace _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX I can't remember the last time I used RDS. There's a terrific tool called Aqua Data Studio (www.aquafold.com) that I use instead. It provides support for every major database as well as ODBC, and has a terrific query generator, data editor, and other DB-related tools. It's a very nice way to preflight SQL queries before inserting the code into a CF template, whether you use CFMX, BD, or CFAS 5 or before. And you can work with Oracle, MS SQL, and MySQL databases all in the same interface. AND it runs in Windows, Linux & MacOS. - Jeff On 10 Mar 2004 at 11:11, David Berry wrote: > very interesting.. Altought I do code by hand I also > sometimes find the feature in the binding panels very handy > to use. I have also posted this on the blueDragon list so > see what there response is. > > > > We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have > > disabled RDS for security > > reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this > > boat. > > > > We write our own code. > > > > -Kevin > davidBerry > BerryNet Design > Cell: 517-204-5454 > > _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to deal with more than one brand of db. - Jeff On 10 Mar 2004 at 12:12, Matt Liotta wrote: > Most databases have associated GUI tools that have way more power than > DWMX ever will. For example, I have never used a more powerful GUI for > use with SQL Server than Enterprise Manager. Most people are amazed > when I show them some of the things it can do that they were relying on > DWMX or Access for. > > -Matt > > > On Mar 10, 2004, at 11:11 AM, David Berry wrote: > > > very interesting.. Altought I do code by hand I also > > sometimes find the feature in the binding panels very handy > > to use. I have also posted this on the blueDragon list so > > see what there response is. > > > > > We have DW and CFMX, but our server guys have > > > disabled RDS for security > > > reasons. So it's not just BlueDragon users in this > > > boat. > > > > > > We write our own code. > > > > > > -Kevin > > davidBerry > > BerryNet Design > > Cell: 517-204-5454 > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a > wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all > the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to > deal with more than one brand of db. I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my opnion (for those of you on old postgres) http://www.aquafold.com/downloads.html -- Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am having problems connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not sure where to specify the instance name. I am guessing that MS does this by using different ports for each instance. I have it setup to use Windows Auth. I don't see that option in this software. -Frank - Original Message - From: Rob To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a > wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all > the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to > deal with more than one brand of db. I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my opnion (for those of you on old postgres) http://www.aquafold.com/downloads.html -- Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am having > problems connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not sure where to > specify the instance name. I am guessing that MS does this by > using different ports for each instance. I have it setup to > use Windows Auth. I don't see that option in this software. I don't know about BlueDragon specifically, but with CFMX you can't use Windows authentication through the MS SQL Server JDBC driver. If you need to use Windows authentication, you'd have to use the ODBC Socket driver, and I wouldn't recommend that. As for separate SQL Server/MSDE named instances, they do use different ports. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
> > I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am > > having problems connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not > > sure where to specify the instance name. I am guessing > > that MS does this by using different ports for each > > instance. I have it setup to use Windows Auth. I don't > > see that option in this software. > > I don't know about BlueDragon specifically, but with CFMX you > can't use Windows authentication through the MS SQL Server > JDBC driver. If you need to use Windows authentication, you'd > have to use the ODBC Socket driver, and I wouldn't recommend that. Oops, I didn't read the thread closely enough to see you're referring to AquaData instead of BlueDragon. Well, in any case, I suspect the same thing is true - AquaData Studio uses JDBC, which doesn't support Windows authentication against SQL Server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 20:01, Frank Mamone wrote: > I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am having problems connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not sure where to specify the instance name. I am guessing that MS does this by using different ports for each instance. I have it setup to use Windows Auth. I don't see that option in this software. Not sure what MSDE stands for (I am not good with microsoft abbreviations) but I just set it up to connect to MS SQL (7.0) sever (heheh abbreviation) on a linux box and it worked. MSSQL is *not* using named pipes its using TCP/IP. (worked nicely out of the box on postgres 7.2 - though there was no box) ... you know there were a lot of abbreviations in that; let me know if I can help. > -Frank > - Original Message - > From: Rob > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > > > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a > > wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all > > the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to > > deal with more than one brand of db. > > I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my > opnion (for those of you on old postgres) > > http://www.aquafold.com/downloads.html > > -- > Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Rob MSDE is Microsoft SQL Desktop Engine. Aqua Data is the way to go. I have learned allot from you all today. Thanks! ~dB -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 20:01, Frank Mamone wrote: > I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am having problems connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not sure where to specify the instance name. I am guessing that MS does this by using different ports for each instance. I have it setup to use Windows Auth. I don't see that option in this software. Not sure what MSDE stands for (I am not good with microsoft abbreviations) but I just set it up to connect to MS SQL (7.0) sever (heheh abbreviation) on a linux box and it worked. MSSQL is *not* using named pipes its using TCP/IP. (worked nicely out of the box on postgres 7.2 - though there was no box) ... you know there were a lot of abbreviations in that; let me know if I can help. > -Frank > - Original Message - > From: Rob > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX > > > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a > > wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all > > the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to > > deal with more than one brand of db. > > I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my > opnion (for those of you on old postgres) > > http://www.aquafold.com/downloads.html > > -- > Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Macromedia just recently released an updater to JRun 4 ('tis Updater 3)
which fixes numerous issues with JDBC drivers.
If anyone on the list has info on what environment the updater is best
applied on please let us know (eg: CFMX 6.1 standalone OK or J2EE install
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From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
I just downloaded it too and it looks awesome, but am having problems
connecting to MSDE instances. I'm not sure where to specify the instance
name. I am guessing that MS does this by using different ports for each
instance. I have it setup to use Windows Auth. I don't see that option in
this software.
-Frank
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From: Rob
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Subject: Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk
to a
> wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't
have all
> the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you
have to
> deal with more than one brand of db.
I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my
opnion (for those of you on old postgres)
http://www.aquafold.com/downloads.html
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RE: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
Well it can't be any worse then EM. Might try it myself. On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yep. Aqua Data is like Enterprise Manager, but with the ability to talk to a > wide variety of dbs. Of course, since it's not MS-specific, it doesn't have all > the bells and whistles of EM, but it's the best thing out there if you have to > deal with more than one brand of db. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
On Friday 12 Mar 2004 07:35 am, Peter Tilbrook wrote:
> Macromedia just recently released an updater to JRun 4 ('tis Updater 3)
> which fixes numerous issues with JDBC drivers.
>
> If anyone on the list has info on what environment the updater is best
> applied on please let us know (eg: CFMX 6.1 standalone OK or J2EE install
> only).
There is a CFMX updater in the works too. I assume this will roll-up the JRun
fixes too.
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Re: BlueDragon and Dreamweaver MX
At 12:32 PM -0800 3/10/04, Rob wrote: >I just downloaded it... awsome product :) better the pgaccess in my >opnion (for those of you on old postgres) I would have to agree that this is a great product. And the developer is very responsive; there's a mailing list on Yahoogroups named aquadatastudio. -- Lola - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lolajl.net | Blog at http://www.lolajl.net/blog/ I'm in Bowie, MD, USA, halfway between DC and Annapolis. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
