RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Yes Sean I stand corrected, see a previous post of mine.


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-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 2:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
>
> cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
> ColdFusion Java components.

You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can
cfdump *some* things with that setting enabled but not all things.

> So that is not Mikes problem...

Yup, definitely is.
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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Mark,

I seriously haven't seen this before... Well you learn something new then.

I was aware that anything to do internal would be stopped, but I have never
come across a situation where this has happened.


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-Original Message-
From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 5:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!

Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
can't use cfdump on many things.

On some things you can, and on other things you can't.

The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.

If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
...getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
that you just saw.

I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.

This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
of right now.

I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
setting.

Mark


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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
>
> cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
> ColdFusion Java components.

You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can
cfdump *some* things with that setting enabled but not all things.

> So that is not Mikes problem...

Yup, definitely is.
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
If you mean you put code in production, then months later someone changes
something without telling anyone else, and it breaks something? And then you
try to say that the fault lies with anyone except the person who made the
change and didn't tell anyone? Yes, I'd say you're the only one.

Totally unrelated Dale, I love the learncf.com site. Good job there. (Yes,
I'm bipolar).

On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes
> problems.
> I guess im the only one.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
>


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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
Agreed, especially if the same dump works fine locally. In that case it has
to be some configuration issue on the server (you might try dumping various
other things to see if you can find a pattern in what will dump and what
won't).

On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This might get us back to the internal Java method setting I was talking
> about.
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
> >
> > I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
> >
> > so whats the matter with the line
> > 
> >  then??
> >
> > can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike Kear
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> I'm not going to start a flame war.
>
> I said this is the reason that I don't use third party frameworks, not
> that
> you shouldn't.
>
> As for the UI framework I released open source, I wouldn't use it either
> if
> I hadn't written it.
>
> As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
> was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and
> the
> line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking
> down
> this issue.


The same way you would if anything else changed that you didn't know about
and it broke the app. This argument is meaningless.

Further, what is the alternative? Write something yourself, that only you
and a small group of people have looked at, and use that? Instead of
something that has been out for years and has had literally thousands of
eyes on it? You've got to be kidding.

Again, this problem had *nothing* to do with ColdSpring. It was a problem in
another part of Mike's code. And even then, if you go look back at the error
message, it tells you exactly where the error is happening. I don't have
access to his code so my first instinct was that it was a path issue on the
shared server. But Mike (wags finger at him) should have looked at this
cfdump tag first thing.

I also don't want to start a flame war, so I'm fine letting this die here. I
just want to be sure everyone else reading this is fully aware of the
situation and that, despite your opinion, ColdSpring kicks ass (which is my
opinion, and the opinion of a ton of others).


Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
>
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
>
> so whats the matter with the line
> 
> then??
>
> can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
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>
>
>
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
> > are involved.
> >
> > on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
> > correctly.  it says
> >
> > 
> >
> > But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
> > one kicking off the coldspring
> >
> >  > createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/>
> >
> >
> > If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
> > put it back up and let you see for yourself.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > AFP Webworks
> > http://afpwebworks.com
> > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes
> problems. I guess im the only one.

Oh no, it does happen to everyone :-)
But if we change something, we'd check it, so we'd know that the cfdump we 
added caused an explosion.

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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Dale Fraser
Hey Tom,

Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes problems.
I guess im the only one.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://learncf.com

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From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 7:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
> was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and
the
> line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking
down
> this issue.

Dude, if you have people making code changes on the live server without
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
> was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and the
> line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking down
> this issue.

Dude, if you have people making code changes on the live server without asking 
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!

Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
can't use cfdump on many things.

On some things you can, and on other things you can't.

The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.

If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
..getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
that you just saw.

I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.

This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
of right now.

I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
setting.

Mark

On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> > an internal java tag?
>
> I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
> work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
> setting.
>
> > But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
> > Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
>
> I think that was a miscommunication...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
On a side note -

This is one of the reasons why I suggested to you Mike to simply
upload your App onto the hosting server, rather than trying to test is
piecemeal.

If the whole application is uploaded, you can test and fix issues that
are relevant *to your application*, and not spend several days trying
to track down an issue that really doesn't stop your application from
running.

This is just my opinion however ;o) your mileage may vary.

Mark



On 10/24/07, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!
>
> Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
> ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
> can't use cfdump on many things.
>
> On some things you can, and on other things you can't.
>
> The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
> policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
> anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
> or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.
>
> If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
> you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
> .getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
> that you just saw.
>
> I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
> meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
> which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.
>
> This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
> sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
> access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
> of right now.
>
> I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
> functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
> setting.
>
> Mark
>
> On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> > > an internal java tag?
> >
> > I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
> > work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
> > setting.
> >
> > > But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
> > > Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
> >
> > I think that was a miscommunication...
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> >
> > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > -- Margaret Atwood
> >
> > 

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.

cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
ColdFusion Java components.

So that is not Mikes problem...


On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be able to use
> CFDUMP.   That's one of the best debugging tools there is, and to not
> have it will make a great many things more difficult.
>
> Yes, you have to do most of your development on a dev machine, but
> after uploading your app to production you have to test it and if
> something goes wrong on the production machine   not to have CFDUMP
> would be a real pain.
>
> I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys
> at hostmysite.
>
> So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an
> absense of error messages? (not the same thing)
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
>
> On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> > > an internal java tag?
> >
> > I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
> > work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
> > setting.
> >
> > > But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
> > > Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
> >
> > I think that was a miscommunication...
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> >
> > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > -- Margaret Atwood
> >
>
> 

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be able to use
CFDUMP.   That's one of the best debugging tools there is, and to not
have it will make a great many things more difficult.

Yes, you have to do most of your development on a dev machine, but
after uploading your app to production you have to test it and if
something goes wrong on the production machine   not to have CFDUMP
would be a real pain.

I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys
at hostmysite.

So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an
absense of error messages? (not the same thing)

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> > an internal java tag?
>
> I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
> work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
> setting.
>
> > But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
> > Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
>
> I think that was a miscommunication...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> an internal java tag?

I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
setting.

> But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
> Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.

I think that was a miscommunication...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what shoud it be set to and are there any security or performance
> implicatoins for a shared hosting operatoin ?

My understanding is that most shared hosts will use this new setting
to disable access to Java objects to improve security. Mark Mandel has
already had to modify Transfer to work around this and I've had to
modify Fusebox for similar reasons. It's a pain in the ass but I can
understand both why Adobe have added the feature and why hosting
companies would use it...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
Which is why I also said that it might pay to try those settings on
the dev machine, it would have confirmed it even more.

However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
an internal java tag?

But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.


On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This might get us back to the internal Java method setting I was talking 
> about.
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
> >
> > I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
> >
> > so whats the matter with the line
> > 
> >  then??
> >
> > can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
> >
> > Cheers
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> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
> > > are involved.
> > >
> > > on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
> > > correctly.  it says
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
> > > one kicking off the coldspring
> > >
> > >  > > createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/>
> > >
> > >
> > > If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
> > > put it back up and let you see for yourself.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Mike Kear
> > > Windsor, NSW, Australia
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
James gets a prize   Sean send him a voucher for CF8-enterprise and
put it on my bill .  I'll pay yo uafter i win the lotto!


i asked the support guy if they had that java thign disabled and his
answer was confusing  - ambiguous  - so i'll revisit that now ...

what shoud it be set to and are there any security or performance
implicatoins for a shared hosting operatoin ?

( I should say by the way that this isnt MY hosting operatoin - my
client has a long-standing hosting arrangement at Hostmysite)


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On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
> >
> > I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
> >
> > so whats the matter with the line
> > 
> >  then??
> >
> > can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
>
> Not if access to Java internal objects is disabled in the CF Admin,
> no. I bet that's what the problem is (and that's what James Holmes
> suggested so he nailed it).
> --
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>
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
>
> so whats the matter with the line
> 
>  then??
>
> can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??

Not if access to Java internal objects is disabled in the CF Admin,
no. I bet that's what the problem is (and that's what James Holmes
suggested so he nailed it).
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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dale Fraser
Ok,

I'm not going to start a flame war.

I said this is the reason that I don't use third party frameworks, not that
you shouldn't. 

As for the UI framework I released open source, I wouldn't use it either if
I hadn't written it.

As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and the
line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking down
this issue.

Regards
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From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment

I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 

so whats the matter with the line

 then??

can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??

Cheers
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On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
> are involved.
>
> on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
> correctly.  it says
>
> 
>
> But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
> one kicking off the coldspring
>
>  createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/>
>
>
> If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
> put it back up and let you see for yourself.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
>



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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
This might get us back to the internal Java method setting I was talking about.

On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
>
> so whats the matter with the line
> 
>  then??
>
> can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
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>
>
>
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
> > are involved.
> >
> > on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
> > correctly.  it says
> >
> > 
> >
> > But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
> > one kicking off the coldspring
> >
> >  > createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/>
> >
> >
> > If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
> > put it back up and let you see for yourself.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > AFP Webworks
> > http://afpwebworks.com
> > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
are involved.

on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
correctly.  it says



But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
one kicking off the coldspring




If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
put it back up and let you see for yourself.


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On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/23/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes?
>
> Line *47*...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment

I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 

so whats the matter with the line

 then??

can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??

Cheers
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Windsor, NSW, Australia
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On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
> are involved.
>
> on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
> correctly.  it says
>
> 
>
> But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
> one kicking off the coldspring
>
>  createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory")/>
>
>
> If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
> put it back up and let you see for yourself.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
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> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
I will agree, have been using Coldspring for over 12 months and has
saved me hours of work, and the support has been great. however I have
never used it on its own, have always used it with MG:U another
excellent framework with huge support.

And Dale, to coin the phrase of calling the kettle black. Did you not
release nuFramework as opensource?


On 10/24/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nonsense. ColdSpring is a very well supported framework. I have no idea what
> you are talking about when you reference the "obvious lack of support".
> Further, a great many people are and have been using ColdSpring with
> incredible success. It's the one framework I would absolutely never omit
> from any project I do. Front controller frameworks like Fusebox and
> Model-Glue are relatively swappable, but ColdSpring is simply mandatory.
>
> Dale, in this case, you have no idea what you're talking about. One person
> has a problem and the ColdSpring mailing list happens to have a one-day
> glitch, and you're declaring Armageddon. Things don't "just stop working 3
> months after launch and no one knows why". If something breaks 3 months
> after launch, it's because the developer or sysadmin made a change and broke
> something.
>
> There is nothing wrong with ColdSpring in this instance. The problem is
> absolutely something on the shared host or in the rest of the application
> code in question. Exactly what, I'm not sure (which is why I've been trying
> to help Mike diagnose the problem). But I'd urge everyone to discount the
> alarmist tone of Dale's email and weigh the facts of the situation
> yourselves.
>
> On 10/23/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It is for reasons like this we here use no frameworks.
> >
> > The obvious lack of support is your number 1 problem.
> >
> > If I were you, I would be running for the hills. If this is the type of
> > problem you are having now, imagine if something similar happened 3 months
> > after launch and nothing would work and no one knows why. Now I'm not
> > saying
> > that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using
> > a
> > 3rd party unsupported framework such as this.
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://learncf.com
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
This tells us where the problem is:

   at 
cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage(C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)

You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes?

Could you show us that code? The problem is there, not in ColdSpring.
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Dale i have to say i am considerably less enthusiastic about it than i
was at the outset!

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On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is for reasons like this we here use no frameworks.
>
> The obvious lack of support is your number 1 problem.
>
> If I were you, I would be running for the hills. If this is the type of
> problem you are having now, imagine if something similar happened 3 months
> after launch and nothing would work and no one knows why. Now I'm not saying
> that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using a
> 3rd party unsupported framework such as this.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes?

Line *47*...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Brian Kotek
Nonsense. ColdSpring is a very well supported framework. I have no idea what
you are talking about when you reference the "obvious lack of support".
Further, a great many people are and have been using ColdSpring with
incredible success. It's the one framework I would absolutely never omit
from any project I do. Front controller frameworks like Fusebox and
Model-Glue are relatively swappable, but ColdSpring is simply mandatory.

Dale, in this case, you have no idea what you're talking about. One person
has a problem and the ColdSpring mailing list happens to have a one-day
glitch, and you're declaring Armageddon. Things don't "just stop working 3
months after launch and no one knows why". If something breaks 3 months
after launch, it's because the developer or sysadmin made a change and broke
something.

There is nothing wrong with ColdSpring in this instance. The problem is
absolutely something on the shared host or in the rest of the application
code in question. Exactly what, I'm not sure (which is why I've been trying
to help Mike diagnose the problem). But I'd urge everyone to discount the
alarmist tone of Dale's email and weigh the facts of the situation
yourselves.

On 10/23/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is for reasons like this we here use no frameworks.
>
> The obvious lack of support is your number 1 problem.
>
> If I were you, I would be running for the hills. If this is the type of
> problem you are having now, imagine if something similar happened 3 months
> after launch and nothing would work and no one knows why. Now I'm not
> saying
> that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using
> a
> 3rd party unsupported framework such as this.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com
>
>


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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dale Fraser
It is for reasons like this we here use no frameworks.

The obvious lack of support is your number 1 problem.

If I were you, I would be running for the hills. If this is the type of
problem you are having now, imagine if something similar happened 3 months
after launch and nothing would work and no one knows why. Now I'm not saying
that there is anything wrong with Coldspring, but there is a risk of using a
3rd party unsupported framework such as this.

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-Original Message-
From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

Still no idea, because there is no method called getClass() in the bean
factory (and there's not supposed to be). Further, a full text search of the
entire ColdSpring repository shows no files with "getClass" in them. So
there's nothing in the core that would be calling such a method. It has to
be something outside of ColdSpring, and I'd still be looking for some issue
with the fact that this is a shared host (incorrect paths, an existing
mapping of the same name, incorrect permissions, etc.)


On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and now i have
> a stack trace for this error.  It's apparently looking for something
> in a folder that doesnt exist.  There is no
> E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
>
> there's the stack trace:
>
>
> at
>
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor1(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\d
ump.cfm)
> at
>
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor4(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\d
ump.cfm)
> at cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage
> (C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)
>
>
> coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy$InvalidMethodNameException: The
> method getClass was not found in component
> C:\websites\ybunp9\coldspring\beans\DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc.
> at
> coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.throwInvalidMethodNameException(
> TemplateProxy.java:688)
> at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:435)
> at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:308)
> at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:2260)
>
>




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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Brian Kotek
Still no idea, because there is no method called getClass() in the bean
factory (and there's not supposed to be). Further, a full text search of the
entire ColdSpring repository shows no files with "getClass" in them. So
there's nothing in the core that would be calling such a method. It has to
be something outside of ColdSpring, and I'd still be looking for some issue
with the fact that this is a shared host (incorrect paths, an existing
mapping of the same name, incorrect permissions, etc.)


On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and now i have
> a stack trace for this error.  It's apparently looking for something
> in a folder that doesnt exist.  There is no
> E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
>
> there's the stack trace:
>
>
> at
> cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor1(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
> at
> cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor4(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
> at cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage
> (C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)
>
>
> coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy$InvalidMethodNameException: The
> method getClass was not found in component
> C:\websites\ybunp9\coldspring\beans\DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc.
> at
> coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.throwInvalidMethodNameException(
> TemplateProxy.java:688)
> at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:435)
> at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:308)
> at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:2260)
>
>


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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
i used createobject()  so thats ok
i asked about the disable java thing and got an ambiguous reply so i'm not sure
i'll ask again

that has to be UNCHECKED, right?



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On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the CF8 administrator, "Disable access to internal ColdFusion Java
> components" under settings is one place to check and in the sandbox
> for your account also have them see if they've disabled createobject()
> java, in case these restrict the operation you're trying to perform. I
> could be completely wrong, of course - trying it out would be the
> easiest way to find out but I'm remoting over a 64kbps shaped
> connection and it's just painful...
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for your suggestion James.
> >
> > What do i ask them to look for, and if they have ,  what do i ask them to 
> > do?
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Scott
One thing Mike can do first is emulate these settings on his dev
machine first to see if that is indeed the problem.

I am unware that coldspring uses any internal java objects, otherwise
it would not run on BlueDragon or Railo.

But worth testing on the dev machine before ringing the hosting provider.


On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the CF8 administrator, "Disable access to internal ColdFusion Java
> components" under settings is one place to check and in the sandbox
> for your account also have them see if they've disabled createobject()
> java, in case these restrict the operation you're trying to perform. I
> could be completely wrong, of course - trying it out would be the
> easiest way to find out but I'm remoting over a 64kbps shaped
> connection and it's just painful...
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for your suggestion James.
> >
> > What do i ask them to look for, and if they have ,  what do i ask them to 
> > do?
>
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
In the CF8 administrator, "Disable access to internal ColdFusion Java
components" under settings is one place to check and in the sandbox
for your account also have them see if they've disabled createobject()
java, in case these restrict the operation you're trying to perform. I
could be completely wrong, of course - trying it out would be the
easiest way to find out but I'm remoting over a 64kbps shaped
connection and it's just painful...

On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your suggestion James.
>
> What do i ask them to look for, and if they have ,  what do i ask them to do?

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks for your suggestion James.

What do i ask them to look for, and if they have ,  what do i ask them to do?

CHeers
MIke Kear


On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll bet the host has sandboxed out the core java calls (of which
> getClass() is an example, afaik)  - this is now an option in CF8.
>
> On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.
> >
> > THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip
> > file into a folder called /coldspring  then run them .
> >
> > thats what i did.   No changes to any of the core files, and i checked
> > i havent got any of the known 'gotcha's'  (such as a CF mapping called
> > "coldspring" somewhere else on the box.
> >
> > on my dev server it did exactly what it was supposed to.
> >
> > on the remote host it didnt.
> >
> > SO i'm trying to find out what to do about it.
>
>

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread James Holmes
I'll bet the host has sandboxed out the core java calls (of which
getClass() is an example, afaik)  - this is now an option in CF8.

On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.
>
> THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip
> file into a folder called /coldspring  then run them .
>
> thats what i did.   No changes to any of the core files, and i checked
> i havent got any of the known 'gotcha's'  (such as a CF mapping called
> "coldspring" somewhere else on the box.
>
> on my dev server it did exactly what it was supposed to.
>
> on the remote host it didnt.
>
> SO i'm trying to find out what to do about it.


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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.

THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip
file into a folder called /coldspring  then run them .

thats what i did.   No changes to any of the core files, and i checked
i havent got any of the known 'gotcha's'  (such as a CF mapping called
"coldspring" somewhere else on the box.

on my dev server it did exactly what it was supposed to.

on the remote host it didnt.

SO i'm trying to find out what to do about it.

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On 10/24/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and
> > now i have a stack trace for this error.  It's apparently
> > looking for something in a folder that doesnt exist.  There
> > is no E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
>
> That doesn't matter, actually. The CFDUMP tag is actually located in your
> \WEB-INF\cftags directory, whereever that happens to be. If you open it in
> Notepad, or use something like strings to see the strings in this encrypted
> file, it has this bit in it:
>
> "SourceFile  E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm"
>
> However, your real error appears to be within DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc,
> which apparently has no method called getClass.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Watts
> I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and 
> now i have a stack trace for this error.  It's apparently 
> looking for something in a folder that doesnt exist.  There 
> is no E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm

That doesn't matter, actually. The CFDUMP tag is actually located in your
\WEB-INF\cftags directory, whereever that happens to be. If you open it in
Notepad, or use something like strings to see the strings in this encrypted
file, it has this bit in it:

"SourceFile E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm"

However, your real error appears to be within DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc,
which apparently has no method called getClass.

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and now i have
a stack trace for this error.  It's apparently looking for something
in a folder that doesnt exist.  There is no
E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm

there's the stack trace:


at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor1(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor4(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
at 
cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage(C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)


coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy$InvalidMethodNameException: The
method getClass was not found in component
C:\websites\ybunp9\coldspring\beans\DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc.
at 
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.throwInvalidMethodNameException(TemplateProxy.java:688)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:435)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:308)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:2260)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228$funcDUMPOBJECT.runFunction(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:1567)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:418)
at coldfusion.filter.SilentFilter.invoke(SilentFilter.java:47)
at 
coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:324)
at 
coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke(FunctionAccessFilter.java:56)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:277)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:463)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invokeUDF(CfJspPage.java:2429)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228$funcRENDEROUTPUT.runFunction(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:621)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:418)
at coldfusion.filter.SilentFilter.invoke(SilentFilter.java:47)
at 
coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:324)
at 
coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke(FunctionAccessFilter.java:56)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:277)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:192)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invokeUDF(CfJspPage.java:2464)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor17(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:522)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor25(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:521)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor1(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor27(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:507)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor4(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor51(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:453)
at 
cfdump2ecfm1757687228.runPage(E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm:1)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at 
coldfusion.filter.CFVariablesScopeFilter.invoke(CFVariablesScopeFilter.java:63)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.ModuleTag.doStartTag(ModuleTag.java:280)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTcfTag(CfJspPage.java:2654)
at 
cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage(C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:366)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:279)
at 
coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:70)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:175)
at 
coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86)
at com.seefusion.Filter.doFilter(Filter.java:49)
at com.seefusion.SeeFusion.doFilter(SeeFusion.java:1494)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94)
at 
coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
at 
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks for you interest Brian.

No the ybunp9 is the directory above the root.  It's what is added by
the expandpath() part of the path to coldspring. is that not what i
should do?

here's the line i am using in the code:
 

and the fullly qualified path to DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc is

C:\websites\ybunp9\coldspring\beans\DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc

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On 10/24/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd wager that the problem has to do with the fact that this is a shared
> host. Something clearly isn't correct since obviously many people (including
> myself) are using ColdSpring on shared hosts. You might ensure that the cfc
> dot paths are resolving correctly (it looks like you might be using "
> bunp9.coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory" which will break all of the
> internal ColdSpring type paths.
>
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Brian Kotek
I'd wager that the problem has to do with the fact that this is a shared
host. Something clearly isn't correct since obviously many people (including
myself) are using ColdSpring on shared hosts. You might ensure that the cfc
dot paths are resolving correctly (it looks like you might be using "
bunp9.coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory" which will break all of the
internal ColdSpring type paths.

On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've uploaded the coldspring core code again , with no change.
>
> I posted this same question to the Coldspring mailing list too but
> after 6 hours now it stlil hasn't appeared. I guess the coldspring
> list is dead.
>
> I guess i'll just have to give this idea away and go back to my own
> home-grown factory CFC instead.   Leave the coldspring to other people
> until i get a few hours free to try it again.
>
> I've invested 10 hours in this now, and i can't afford to waste much
> more time on it.


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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Pity, 

For sure.
Things to try when you get the chance include createObject() without the 
init(), and cfdump the result.

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
I've uploaded the coldspring core code again , with no change.

I posted this same question to the Coldspring mailing list too but
after 6 hours now it stlil hasn't appeared. I guess the coldspring
list is dead.

I guess i'll just have to give this idea away and go back to my own
home-grown factory CFC instead.   Leave the coldspring to other people
until i get a few hours free to try it again.

I've invested 10 hours in this now, and i can't afford to waste much
more time on it.

Pity, because I think coldspring would have paid off in the future if
only it would work on the production site like it works in my dev
server.

Cheers
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On 10/23/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The host is CF8  while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
> > CF7.  Does that make a difference?
>
> Nope, ColdSpring runs fine on both of those.
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The host is CF8  while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
> CF7.  Does that make a difference?

Nope, ColdSpring runs fine on both of those.

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
G'day Tom,

Thanks for you reassurance.  At least it means (if i've uploaded the
code correctly) that it OUGHT to work.

The host is CF8  while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
CF7.  Does that make a difference?

In the mean time i'll upload the code again, just to make sure all the
files got there uncorrupted and in the right place.

Cheers
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On 10/23/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  > createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory").init()/>
>
> Well, that certainly should work, I'm sorry to say.
> What CF version is your host ?
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory").init()/>

Well, that certainly should work, I'm sorry to say.
What CF version is your host ?

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