RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Does that mean you will never use visual studio too? John McKown > -Original Message- > From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Rick, > > Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't > give me the level of control I desire, and it is far to easy for me to > open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. > WYSIWYG, to me, has always meant 'messy bloat code', as the editors > always seem to overdo what is necessary. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think > many of the CodeWarriors on this list would agree, which is why we steer > clear of WYSIWYG for development. I've had to 'clean' far too many > templates some designer created in DW to ever even think about using it > myself, for anything. > > I personally think that CFEclipse is an outstanding product, and will > get even better over time. I know from conversations with Mark Drew that > there are plans for working on the search/find/replace tools, and he has > discussed possibly tying in with the UML modeling tools of Calisto to > possibly create CFC stub code from UML models. > > My $.02 > > Cutter > _ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback, Denny... > > > > However, as a visual developer, I think it speaks volumes > > that no one on this list (apparently) uses the MyEclipse Visual Plug-in. > > > > Something must be lacking...and I don't want to go to a pure code > > environment. Seems like a waste of time to hand code a bunch of > > HTML for basic structure of a page. > > > > But you're right that the price is right! $40 or so annually for the > > professional > > version is great! It would take about 10 years to pay for DW at that > > rate...and > > I get all the updates / upgrades as part of the subscription! :o) > > > > > > Rick > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253046 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag > name ? Uh, yeah. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253039 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
The one thing I can absolutely guarantee is that the closer it gets to being "there" the less and less I will use it, that's for sure! Thanks, Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 -Original Message- From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! >> I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that >> kind >> of functionality in DW. > > Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried. > Very bad experience. > I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-) I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself. I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I think they are all missing in different areas. I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for ...NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java. CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my own opinion, it's not there yet. > 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare > 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ? This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm > Have you > entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ? It's too much hassle :-) Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252967 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 12:40, Massimo Foti wrote: > I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the > lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for > ..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java. I agree - and this isn't a new problem - ever since about CFMX6 Homesite has got less and less usefull compaired to JEdit, Eclipse or other products that *have* moved forward. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically innovate dot-com bandwidth This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252963 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Massimo I would very much apreciate if you could add specific features that you would like to see in CFEclipse to the issue tracker (http://trac.cfeclipse.org) All you need to do is register and add some ideas of functionality that its missing and I shall have a look and see what I can do. Regards Mark Drew On 9/13/06, Massimo Foti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that > >> kind > >> of functionality in DW. > > > > Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried. > > Very bad experience. > > I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-) > > I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I > posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself. > > I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I think > they are all missing in different areas. > > I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the > lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for > ..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java. > > CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my own > opinion, it's not there yet. > > > > > 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare > > 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ? > > This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm > > > > > Have you > > entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ? > > It's too much hassle :-) > > > Massimo Foti > Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: > http://www.massimocorner.com > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
>> I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that >> kind >> of functionality in DW. > > Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried. > Very bad experience. > I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-) I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself. I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I think they are all missing in different areas. I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for ..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java. CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my own opinion, it's not there yet. > 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare > 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ? This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm > Have you > entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ? It's too much hassle :-) Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252957 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 10:23, Massimo Foti wrote: > I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that kind > of functionality in DW. Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried. Very bad experience. I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-) > It offers much more than just finding a specific tag. Give it a try and you > will see by yourself. Uh, OK, but: 1) My desktop runs Linux 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ? Have you entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to completely industrialise robust CEOs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> On Saturday 09 September 2006 08:25, Massimo Foti wrote: >> In DW, open the find and replace dialog, then select "specific tag" from >> the "search" drop-down. That's a kind of functionality that I haven't >> seen >> elsewhere and can be really useful whenever you work on a tag based > > Why not just search in Eclipse for '' ? I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that kind of functionality in DW. It offers much more than just finding a specific tag. Give it a try and you will see by yourself. Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252949 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On Saturday 09 September 2006 08:25, Massimo Foti wrote: > In DW, open the find and replace dialog, then select "specific tag" from > the "search" drop-down. That's a kind of functionality that I haven't seen > elsewhere and can be really useful whenever you work on a tag based Why not just search in Eclipse for '' ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to elementarily disseminate advanced markets This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On 9/12/06, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > including links to key resources like the SVN plugin for VS - > http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/ For those who like DW but want Version Controll, I've found this plugin/extension is good for auto-cloaking those SC folders (.svn, .CVS): http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106&viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Details&loc=en_us&authorid=0&page=0&scrollPos=0&subcatid=0&snid=sn106&itemnumber=-1&extid=1018603&catid=0 That link is horrible, I know, but tinyURL doesn't do anchors, apparently, like CF doesn't, but it's interesting how AExchange uses them... And there is this for subversion and DW, but I haven't tried it (tortoiseSVN is sweet & free): http://www.grafxsoftware.com/product.php/SVN_for_Dreamweaver/135/ Sorta off the target, but good stuff, and earlier posts to the thread had me thinking... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252926 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
There are definately people using SVN with .NET development. For instance, Scott Hanselman, who has a treasure trove of information here: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/CategoryView.aspx?category=Subversion including links to key resources like the SVN plugin for VS - http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/ -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 9/11/06, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about that... TortoiseSVN comes with a ".NET hack", so > obviously people are using that for .NET instead of Source Safe. You > might > want to look into it. > > Russ > > > -Original Message- > > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:05 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > LOL - I wish... > > > > Unfortuneately comercial realities mean that is not going to happen... > > > > We dev some .Net stuff aswell as CF - so Source Safe is a necessary > > evil... > > and tbh for what we want it works absolutely fine (apart from the > > integration with DW - which as everything else integrates fine - must be > > the > > fault of DW) > > > > Also for what this guy does (he's a junior developer doing lots of small > > changes to mainly static sites) DW is a timesaving tool... > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252897 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I don't know about that... TortoiseSVN comes with a ".NET hack", so obviously people are using that for .NET instead of Source Safe. You might want to look into it. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > LOL - I wish... > > Unfortuneately comercial realities mean that is not going to happen... > > We dev some .Net stuff aswell as CF - so Source Safe is a necessary > evil... > and tbh for what we want it works absolutely fine (apart from the > integration with DW - which as everything else integrates fine - must be > the > fault of DW) > > Also for what this guy does (he's a junior developer doing lots of small > changes to mainly static sites) DW is a timesaving tool... > > On 9/11/06, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Agreed, DW is useless, but I think the bigger issue is that you're using > > SourceSafe. Get rid of the demon and go to SVN. (Then just tell that > one > > guy that DW is no longer supported due to it's non integration with SVN > > and > > make him use CFE :-P ) > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > > > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > > > > > > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are > > certain > > > > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by > > CFEclipse > > > or > > > > a > > > > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > > > > EditPlus, > > > > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. > > > > > > > > > Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static > HTML > > > (laying out html emails etc). > > > > > > We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this > has > > > exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe > > > integration. > > > > > > If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it > within > > > DW, > > > DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it > > > out. > > > > > > THIS IS WRONG! > > > > > > No other source control product that I have ever used works in this > > way... > > > > > > The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and > you > > > should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. > > > > > > What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will > go > > > and > > > checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all > > your > > > changes. > > > > > > In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple > > files, > > > some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of > which > > > are > > > still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out > > > un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out > the > > > un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and > > > changed > > > - losing all work since you last checked your files in > > > > > > My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to > DW's > > > sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS > Explorer > > > eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
>Yeah, well I have a row of 8 switches and I program every byte in >binary manually :P > Oh yeah!?! I use a patch panel. :P ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252814 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
LOL - I tend to use Photoshop for that! On 9/11/06, Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, and I find it to be an absolutely invaluable tool for > stress-testing any new computer I get! > > --Ferg > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:39 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > DW is in no way useless, I am not a fan anymore (for ColdFusion work) > but it > is a fantastic tool for HTML / CSS. > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252808 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
agreed... On 9/11/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DW is in no way useless, I am not a fan anymore (for ColdFusion work) but > it > is a fantastic tool for HTML / CSS. > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Russ > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Mon Sep 11 19:17:54 2006 > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Agreed, DW is useless, but I think the bigger issue is that you're using > SourceSafe. Get rid of the demon and go to SVN. (Then just tell that one > guy that DW is no longer supported due to it's non integration with SVN > and > make him use CFE :-P ) > > Russ > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > > > > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are > certain > > > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by > CFEclipse > > or > > > a > > > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > > > EditPlus, > > > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. > > > > > > Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static HTML > > (laying out html emails etc). > > > > We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this has > > exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe > > integration. > > > > If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it within > > DW, > > DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it > > out. > > > > THIS IS WRONG! > > > > No other source control product that I have ever used works in this > way... > > > > The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and you > > should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. > > > > What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will go > > and > > checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all > your > > changes. > > > > In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple > files, > > some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of which > > are > > still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out > > un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out the > > un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and > > changed > > - losing all work since you last checked your files in > > > > My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to DW's > > sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS Explorer > > eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252806 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
LOL - I wish... Unfortuneately comercial realities mean that is not going to happen... We dev some .Net stuff aswell as CF - so Source Safe is a necessary evil... and tbh for what we want it works absolutely fine (apart from the integration with DW - which as everything else integrates fine - must be the fault of DW) Also for what this guy does (he's a junior developer doing lots of small changes to mainly static sites) DW is a timesaving tool... On 9/11/06, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed, DW is useless, but I think the bigger issue is that you're using > SourceSafe. Get rid of the demon and go to SVN. (Then just tell that one > guy that DW is no longer supported due to it's non integration with SVN > and > make him use CFE :-P ) > > Russ > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > > > > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are > certain > > > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by > CFEclipse > > or > > > a > > > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > > > EditPlus, > > > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. > > > > > > Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static HTML > > (laying out html emails etc). > > > > We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this has > > exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe > > integration. > > > > If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it within > > DW, > > DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it > > out. > > > > THIS IS WRONG! > > > > No other source control product that I have ever used works in this > way... > > > > The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and you > > should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. > > > > What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will go > > and > > checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all > your > > changes. > > > > In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple > files, > > some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of which > > are > > still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out > > un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out the > > un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and > > changed > > - losing all work since you last checked your files in > > > > My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to DW's > > sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS Explorer > > eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Well what do you expect from commercial software... Adobe is always slow supporting stuff... they only just released support for apache 2.2. You can always run 2 copies of Eclipse, one for doing flex stuff and one for cf. Go to adobe.com/go/wish and maybe they'll hurry up with the support. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > But 3.2 has been final for a while and other plugins should get with > > the program. > > Flex builder 2: > http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ > > > --- > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any > reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this > transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy > the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. > Thank you. A1. > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> But 3.2 has been final for a while and other plugins should get with > the program. Flex builder 2: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ --- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
It was pretty annoying that they didn't branch for the 3.2 release, and I was trying to use the latest build in 3.1 back a few months ago. But 3.2 has been final for a while and other plugins should get with the program. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:24 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > I think we > > should just get used that it's going to be beta for the time > > being, and > > embrace the beta versions. > > That's fine as long as all the plugins you use run in Eclipse 3.2, and > some out there still don't. > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any > reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this > transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy > the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. > Thank you. A1. > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> I think we > should just get used that it's going to be beta for the time > being, and > embrace the beta versions. That's fine as long as all the plugins you use run in Eclipse 3.2, and some out there still don't. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I didn't mean that in a negative way. Google stuff is perpetually in beta because they keep adding new features, etc. Same with CFE. I think we should just get used that it's going to be beta for the time being, and embrace the beta versions. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:06 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > I truly doubt that it will perpetually be in beta. I think that, like > most other OS projects, those that are working on it are doing so mostly > unfunded and on their own time, supporting their families by holding > down paying positions or full time contracting jobs. > > It's difficult to have a steady release cycle when you aren't being paid > for your efforts (lots of fame, little fortune). He doesn't chime in too > often (because he's very busy), but Mark Drew pays a lot of attention to > what all of us developers have to say about CFEclipse. What we like and > dislike, features we would like to see, anticipating our future wants > and needs, etc. I give him, and everyone else contributing to CFEclipse, > a lot of credit for continuing the work on this product, knowing that > they gain nothing but our respect and appreciation (and maybe a visit to > their wishlists). I know that, over time, we will still see fantastic > advances in CFEclipse. > > Cutter > > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > Russ wrote: > > Hmm... considering that the latest stable build of CFE is over a year > old, I > > think we need to accept that CFE, just like google, will be perpetually > in > > beta. > > > > Russ > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252776 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
oXygen is another xml plugin for Eclipse. It costs, but it supports code folding which is nice for fusebox and fuseactions. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility Read an interview regarding my CSS Hands on Class at http://www.shayna.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.display_entry&id=140 -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! If there is still interest, I might get the defibrillator and revive the Fusebox Plugin for CFE. Since I am not doing fusebox at the moment, I havent used it in a long time, but I might revisit it. So, yes, CFEclipse "supports" Fusebox since its Coldfusion, get yourself an XML plugin (I use XML buddy but dont let me stop you getting another one) and you are editing fusebox files. MD On 9/11/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How could cfeclipse not support fusebox? > Fusebox is just a framework, you can code it in anything, even > notepad, it is still CFML > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2006 15:49 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling > > your CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves > > CFEclipse, from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for > cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
>>and it is far to easy for me to open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. Absolutely, and MSIE also, just to make sure it works for both, what you're never sure with build in browsers. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252773 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I truly doubt that it will perpetually be in beta. I think that, like most other OS projects, those that are working on it are doing so mostly unfunded and on their own time, supporting their families by holding down paying positions or full time contracting jobs. It's difficult to have a steady release cycle when you aren't being paid for your efforts (lots of fame, little fortune). He doesn't chime in too often (because he's very busy), but Mark Drew pays a lot of attention to what all of us developers have to say about CFEclipse. What we like and dislike, features we would like to see, anticipating our future wants and needs, etc. I give him, and everyone else contributing to CFEclipse, a lot of credit for continuing the work on this product, knowing that they gain nothing but our respect and appreciation (and maybe a visit to their wishlists). I know that, over time, we will still see fantastic advances in CFEclipse. Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Russ wrote: > Hmm... considering that the latest stable build of CFE is over a year old, I > think we need to accept that CFE, just like google, will be perpetually in > beta. > > Russ > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252772 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Yeah, and I find it to be an absolutely invaluable tool for stress-testing any new computer I get! --Ferg -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! DW is in no way useless, I am not a fan anymore (for ColdFusion work) but it is a fantastic tool for HTML / CSS. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252770 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
DW is in no way useless, I am not a fan anymore (for ColdFusion work) but it is a fantastic tool for HTML / CSS. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Russ To: CF-Talk Sent: Mon Sep 11 19:17:54 2006 Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Agreed, DW is useless, but I think the bigger issue is that you're using SourceSafe. Get rid of the demon and go to SVN. (Then just tell that one guy that DW is no longer supported due to it's non integration with SVN and make him use CFE :-P ) Russ > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are certain > > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by CFEclipse > or > > a > > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > > EditPlus, > > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. > > > Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static HTML > (laying out html emails etc). > > We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this has > exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe > integration. > > If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it within > DW, > DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it > out. > > THIS IS WRONG! > > No other source control product that I have ever used works in this way... > > The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and you > should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. > > What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will go > and > checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all your > changes. > > In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple files, > some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of which > are > still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out > un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out the > un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and > changed > - losing all work since you last checked your files in > > My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to DW's > sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS Explorer > eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252768 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Agreed, DW is useless, but I think the bigger issue is that you're using SourceSafe. Get rid of the demon and go to SVN. (Then just tell that one guy that DW is no longer supported due to it's non integration with SVN and make him use CFE :-P ) Russ > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are certain > > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by CFEclipse > or > > a > > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > > EditPlus, > > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. > > > Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static HTML > (laying out html emails etc). > > We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this has > exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe > integration. > > If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it within > DW, > DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it > out. > > THIS IS WRONG! > > No other source control product that I have ever used works in this way... > > The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and you > should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. > > What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will go > and > checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all your > changes. > > In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple files, > some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of which > are > still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out > un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out the > un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and > changed > - losing all work since you last checked your files in > > My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to DW's > sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS Explorer > eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252765 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Hmm... considering that the latest stable build of CFE is over a year old, I think we need to accept that CFE, just like google, will be perpetually in beta. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use > > FB for cf but > > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > > doesn't yet > > support? has anybody actually done this? > > Only the beta version of CFE requries Eclipse 3.2 > > > - > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any > reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this > transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy > the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. > Thank you. A1. > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252763 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Munson, Jacob wrote: > Only the beta version of CFE requries Eclipse 3.2 but that's the version old cfstudio fogies appreciate the most ;-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
cool, I can keep the defibrillator in the cupboard and let the FBX plugin die ;) MD On 9/11/06, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I meant flex builder 2. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:22 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > I am running: > > > > Eclipse (with CF Plug-in for CFEclipse) > > Apatana, > > > > Where can I find the CF extensions for it? > > What is Fuse Builder or do you mean Flex Builder?? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:16 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > I'm running CF Eclipse, Fuse Builder 2, and the CF extensions and > > apatana and some other stuff all in the same instance of Eclipse. I > > don't see why it would be a problem. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:49 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling > > > > your CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves > > > > CFEclipse, from all indications). > > > > > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for > > > cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > > > doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252757 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. > > I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are certain > visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by CFEclipse or > a > traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like > EditPlus, > UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. Completely agree - only time I use DW is for rapid edits of static HTML (laying out html emails etc). We have guy's on the team here who use DW for everything - and this has exposed a quite annoying """feature""" - namely its broken SourceSafe integration. If a file is checked out to another user, and you try editing it within DW, DW will remove the write protection on the file, but will not check it out. THIS IS WRONG! No other source control product that I have ever used works in this way... The write protection and the check out status go hand in hand - and you should not be able to edit a file which is not checked out. What's even worse, is that if you then try and save the file, DW will go and checkout the file over your changed file, and irrecoverably lose all your changes. In addition, if you try and do a search and replace across multiple files, some of which have been checked out, edited and saved, and some of which are still checked in, DW will prompt you to ask if you want to check out un-checked out files. If you click yes, not only will DW check out the un-checked out files, but also all the ones already checked out and changed - losing all work since you last checked your files in My colleague has lost a sum total of at least 12 hours work due to DW's sourcesafe bugs. I meanwhile use CF Eclipse with the free VSS Explorer eclipse plug in - and have never had any (VSS related) problems... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use > FB for cf but > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > doesn't yet > support? has anybody actually done this? Only the beta version of CFE requries Eclipse 3.2 - This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> -Original Message- > From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:40 AM > > Finally, I really don't want to have to create a "project", I'd rather > just jump in and edit, or at the very least point the editor at a > directory tree and tell it "this is a project", but it seems to want > to copy all files into a project workspace. You can use the File Explorer view, which works more like HS/DW. No need for projects then. Personally, I like using the projects. :) This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252748 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
FB = Flex Builder On 9/11/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How could cfeclipse not support fusebox? > Fusebox is just a framework, you can code it in anything, even notepad, it > is still CFML > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2006 15:49 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > > from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf but > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet > support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252745 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
If there is still interest, I might get the defibrillator and revive the Fusebox Plugin for CFE. Since I am not doing fusebox at the moment, I havent used it in a long time, but I might revisit it. So, yes, CFEclipse "supports" Fusebox since its Coldfusion, get yourself an XML plugin (I use XML buddy but dont let me stop you getting another one) and you are editing fusebox files. MD On 9/11/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How could cfeclipse not support fusebox? > Fusebox is just a framework, you can code it in anything, even notepad, it > is still CFML > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2006 15:49 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > > from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf but > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet > support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252744 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
He means flex builder, like I did, although there is a Fusebox plug in but I haven't seen any use in it. > -Original Message- > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:22 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > How could cfeclipse not support fusebox? > Fusebox is just a framework, you can code it in anything, even notepad, it > is still CFML > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2006 15:49 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > > from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf > but > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet > support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252743 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Yeah, I meant flex builder 2. > -Original Message- > From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:22 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > I am running: > > Eclipse (with CF Plug-in for CFEclipse) > Apatana, > > Where can I find the CF extensions for it? > What is Fuse Builder or do you mean Flex Builder?? > > -Original Message- > From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:16 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > I'm running CF Eclipse, Fuse Builder 2, and the CF extensions and > apatana and some other stuff all in the same instance of Eclipse. I > don't see why it would be a problem. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:49 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling > > > your CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves > > > CFEclipse, from all indications). > > > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for > > cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > > doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252741 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
How could cfeclipse not support fusebox? Fusebox is just a framework, you can code it in anything, even notepad, it is still CFML Russ -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2006 15:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > from all indications). i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I am running: Eclipse (with CF Plug-in for CFEclipse) Apatana, Where can I find the CF extensions for it? What is Fuse Builder or do you mean Flex Builder?? -Original Message- From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! I'm running CF Eclipse, Fuse Builder 2, and the CF extensions and apatana and some other stuff all in the same instance of Eclipse. I don't see why it would be a problem. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling > > your CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves > > CFEclipse, from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for > cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB > doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252738 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I'm running CF Eclipse, Fuse Builder 2, and the CF extensions and apatana and some other stuff all in the same instance of Eclipse. I don't see why it would be a problem. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > > from all indications). > > i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf > but > doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet > support? has anybody actually done this? > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> Yeah, well I have a row of 8 switches and I program every byte in > binary manually :P I am not there yet, but that's the ultimate goal :-) > OK, seriously, DW does allow full source editing, in the code window. > It doesn't rewrite things if you don't let it and it has most of the > features you'd see in other products. Unfortunately, there are still cases where DW rewrite and breaks code. Most of them are arcane, but still very annoying. Try to open an XML file pointing to an external entity and see DW breaking havoc into it... > Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. I tend to disagree, in my opinion the real added value in DW are certain visual tools, if you don't use them, you are better served by CFEclipse or a traditional code editor, faster and with a smaller footprint, like EditPlus, UltraEdit, or even good old Homesite. Massimo ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team > suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your > CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, > from all indications). i'm still jumping back & forth to cfstudio so i'd love to use FB for cf but doesn't cfeclipse require the next version of eclipse that FB doesn't yet support? has anybody actually done this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Yeah, well I have a row of 8 switches and I program every byte in binary manually :P OK, seriously, DW does allow full source editing, in the code window. It doesn't rewrite things if you don't let it and it has most of the features you'd see in other products. Turn off the design view and you've got a serious code editor. On 9/11/06, Massimo Foti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't > > give > > me the level of control I desire > > I would add that images are best done in an hex editor (ok it takes a while > but you really get full control) > > Sorry, I can't resist :-))) -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't > give > me the level of control I desire I would add that images are best done in an hex editor (ok it takes a while but you really get full control) Sorry, I can't resist :-))) Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252725 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Well personally I use DWMX to layout my pages still and to enter content or to do textual changes, but once that is done all my coding is then done in homesite or eclipse. Russ -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2006 15:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Rick, Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't give me the level of control I desire, and it is far to easy for me to open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. WYSIWYG, to me, has always meant 'messy bloat code', as the editors always seem to overdo what is necessary. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think many of the CodeWarriors on this list would agree, which is why we steer clear of WYSIWYG for development. I've had to 'clean' far too many templates some designer created in DW to ever even think about using it myself, for anything. I personally think that CFEclipse is an outstanding product, and will get even better over time. I know from conversations with Mark Drew that there are plans for working on the search/find/replace tools, and he has discussed possibly tying in with the UML modeling tools of Calisto to possibly create CFC stub code from UML models. My $.02 Cutter _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, Denny... > > However, as a visual developer, I think it speaks volumes that no one > on this list (apparently) uses the MyEclipse Visual Plug-in. > > Something must be lacking...and I don't want to go to a pure code > environment. Seems like a waste of time to hand code a bunch of HTML > for basic structure of a page. > > But you're right that the price is right! $40 or so annually for the > professional version is great! It would take about 10 years to pay > for DW at that rate...and I get all the updates / upgrades as part of > the subscription! :o) > > > Rick > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252724 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Thanks for the feedback, Cutter... I'm going to give CFEclipse, etc., a look. Rick -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Rick, Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't give me the level of control I desire, and it is far to easy for me to open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252722 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Actually, remembering my Flex sessions at CFUnited, the Adobe team suggested loading the CFEclipse plugin in to Eclipse for handling your CF development concurrently with Flex Builder. (Adobe loves CFEclipse, from all indications). Cutter __ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > Having only looked at MyEclipse briefly... > > You have too look at it this way, CFeclipse is just a plugin for Eclipse, it > is not a "Coldfusion" IDE per se, the CFEclipse plugin just provides a way > of editing CFML inside Eclipse. > > MyEclipse is a suite of tools built atop of Eclipse - just like Flex > Builder 2 is Eclipse under the hood. > > The common part here is the base IDE, it is Eclipse. I haven't tried this, > but there is probably no reason you couldn't dump the CFEclipse plugin into > both the Flex Builder or myEclipse plugins directory and you should be able > to get a cfml editor (note: I have not tried this and you may be able to > code cfml inside Flex Builder 2 already). > > You want a WYSIWYG tool, so MyEclipse is probably your only route into using > Eclipse (though there are loads of plugins for Eclipse which could give you > this and the official Web Tools from the Eclipse Foundation may help you > out). > > Hth > > N ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252721 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Rick, Personal opinion here, but I can't stand visual development. It doesn't give me the level of control I desire, and it is far to easy for me to open my template in Firefox and F5 to reload and see my changes. WYSIWYG, to me, has always meant 'messy bloat code', as the editors always seem to overdo what is necessary. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think many of the CodeWarriors on this list would agree, which is why we steer clear of WYSIWYG for development. I've had to 'clean' far too many templates some designer created in DW to ever even think about using it myself, for anything. I personally think that CFEclipse is an outstanding product, and will get even better over time. I know from conversations with Mark Drew that there are plans for working on the search/find/replace tools, and he has discussed possibly tying in with the UML modeling tools of Calisto to possibly create CFC stub code from UML models. My $.02 Cutter _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, Denny... > > However, as a visual developer, I think it speaks volumes > that no one on this list (apparently) uses the MyEclipse Visual Plug-in. > > Something must be lacking...and I don't want to go to a pure code > environment. Seems like a waste of time to hand code a bunch of > HTML for basic structure of a page. > > But you're right that the price is right! $40 or so annually for the > professional > version is great! It would take about 10 years to pay for DW at that > rate...and > I get all the updates / upgrades as part of the subscription! :o) > > > Rick > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I'm running CFEclipse along with the Flex builder plugin no issue. Its uber sweet to code in ActionScript, CFML, CFScript, MXML, HTML, etc...and be super easily integrated into CVS. One tool to rule them all...hehe. Now, if I were a betting man, I'd bet some big company called something like Adobe is working on a visual based plugin for Eclipse. The visual tools in FB are pretty sweet. DK On 9/10/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having only looked at MyEclipse briefly... > > You have too look at it this way, CFeclipse is just a plugin for Eclipse, > it > is not a "Coldfusion" IDE per se, the CFEclipse plugin just provides a way > of editing CFML inside Eclipse. > > MyEclipse is a suite of tools built atop of Eclipse - just like Flex > Builder 2 is Eclipse under the hood. > > The common part here is the base IDE, it is Eclipse. I haven't tried this, > but there is probably no reason you couldn't dump the CFEclipse plugin > into > both the Flex Builder or myEclipse plugins directory and you should be > able > to get a cfml editor (note: I have not tried this and you may be able to > code cfml inside Flex Builder 2 already). > > You want a WYSIWYG tool, so MyEclipse is probably your only route into > using > Eclipse (though there are loads of plugins for Eclipse which could give > you > this and the official Web Tools from the Eclipse Foundation may help you > out). > > Hth > > N > > > > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Sat Sep 09 14:21:01 2006 > Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking > about > JSP, which > I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold Fusion...hmmm...no screen > shots > of the > visual designer tool (but they have screen shots for the coding > tools...)...don't mind > a monthly fee if it keeps me up-to-date with all the news developments...I > pay for my > design tools now...DW costs, too... > > I think I need an outline of how Eclipse works with MyEclipse which works > for CFEclipse... > Any good, start-to-finish overviews of how all these tools are put > together, > what the environment > looks like, how it works, etc., out there? > > Sounds like a plug-n-play, mix-n-match system for configuring the > components > of a software > system in > to a working development environment... > > Am I wrong? > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:17 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Yeah, that has a WYSIWYG tool, but you have to pay for it - I am also not > sure if you can add CFEclipse to it as the whole app is actually a bundled > eclipse app. I am sure there will be no problems, give it a whirl! > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: De
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Thanks for the overview, Neil... I'm thinking about putting Eclipse, MyEclipse, and CFEclipse on my laptop, which is already running CF 7 and Apache and see how all this works out. I've been so busy building sites and apps (still in CF 4.5) I haven't had time to even tinker with CF 7 and Apache... I do want to find a new development environment, however. Eclipse, with its emphasis on JSP and so many other coding languages, etc, that I have no knowledge of, seems overkill for me. I mean, let's get real...anybody that can still happily develop apps in 4.5 might be blown away by something as extensive as Eclipse! ;o) Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 3:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Having only looked at MyEclipse briefly... You have too look at it this way, CFeclipse is just a plugin for Eclipse, it is not a "Coldfusion" IDE per se, the CFEclipse plugin just provides a way of editing CFML inside Eclipse. MyEclipse is a suite of tools built atop of Eclipse - just like Flex Builder 2 is Eclipse under the hood. The common part here is the base IDE, it is Eclipse. I haven't tried this, but there is probably no reason you couldn't dump the CFEclipse plugin into both the Flex Builder or myEclipse plugins directory and you should be able to get a cfml editor (note: I have not tried this and you may be able to code cfml inside Flex Builder 2 already). You want a WYSIWYG tool, so MyEclipse is probably your only route into using Eclipse (though there are loads of plugins for Eclipse which could give you this and the official Web Tools from the Eclipse Foundation may help you out). Hth N "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 14:21:01 2006 Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking about JSP, which I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold Fusion...hmmm...no screen shots of the visual designer tool (but they have screen shots for the coding tools...)...don't mind a monthly fee if it keeps me up-to-date with all the news developments...I pay for my design tools now...DW costs, too... I think I need an outline of how Eclipse works with MyEclipse which works for CFEclipse... Any good, start-to-finish overviews of how all these tools are put together, what the environment looks like, how it works, etc., out there? Sounds like a plug-n-play, mix-n-match system for configuring the components of a software system in to a working development environment... Am I wrong? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Yeah, that has a WYSIWYG tool, but you have to pay for it - I am also not sure if you can add CFEclipse to it as the whole app is actually a bundled eclipse app. I am sure there will be no problems, give it a whirl! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 06:47:04 2006 Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Check out MyEclipse (I think WYSIWYG may be Windows only). Let us know what you think if you try it out. On 9/8/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Having only looked at MyEclipse briefly... You have too look at it this way, CFeclipse is just a plugin for Eclipse, it is not a "Coldfusion" IDE per se, the CFEclipse plugin just provides a way of editing CFML inside Eclipse. MyEclipse is a suite of tools built atop of Eclipse - just like Flex Builder 2 is Eclipse under the hood. The common part here is the base IDE, it is Eclipse. I haven't tried this, but there is probably no reason you couldn't dump the CFEclipse plugin into both the Flex Builder or myEclipse plugins directory and you should be able to get a cfml editor (note: I have not tried this and you may be able to code cfml inside Flex Builder 2 already). You want a WYSIWYG tool, so MyEclipse is probably your only route into using Eclipse (though there are loads of plugins for Eclipse which could give you this and the official Web Tools from the Eclipse Foundation may help you out). Hth N "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 14:21:01 2006 Subject: RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking about JSP, which I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold Fusion...hmmm...no screen shots of the visual designer tool (but they have screen shots for the coding tools...)...don't mind a monthly fee if it keeps me up-to-date with all the news developments...I pay for my design tools now...DW costs, too... I think I need an outline of how Eclipse works with MyEclipse which works for CFEclipse... Any good, start-to-finish overviews of how all these tools are put together, what the environment looks like, how it works, etc., out there? Sounds like a plug-n-play, mix-n-match system for configuring the components of a software system in to a working development environment... Am I wrong? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Yeah, that has a WYSIWYG tool, but you have to pay for it - I am also not sure if you can add CFEclipse to it as the whole app is actually a bundled eclipse app. I am sure there will be no problems, give it a whirl! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 06:47:04 2006 Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Check out MyEclipse (I think WYSIWYG may be Windows only). Let us know what you think if you try it out. On 9/8/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coding only as far as I can tell. > > Rey... > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... > > > > Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. > > > > I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, then > > hand-code my Cold Fusion code. > > > > Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG interface? > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
You should be able to install CFEclipse into MyEclipse, but I did see a post somewhere about someone having troubles... CFEclipse does need Eclipse 3.2 (at least for that latest source build), so if you don't plunk it into MyEclipse, you'd need to plunk it into a Eclipse 3.2 install. I downloaded MyEclipse but never installed it, guess I could give it a whirl and let you know what my impressions are, & if CFE works with it... There is also pimweb (?) I think, which is another "pay" WYSIWYG html editor. Got a response for your comment on lack of comment, but got a little longer-winded than I intended... to sum it up, I know CF people use it, as to why no comment, maybe cuz it's the weekend or maybe they're on more specialized lists... :-/ I'll let you know what I think about it. -Denny On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I install MyEclipse and then install CFEclipse? Do I have > to install Eclipse to use CFEclipse? > > Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252703 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Can I install MyEclipse and then install CFEclipse? Do I have to install Eclipse to use CFEclipse? Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! http://tinyurl.com/l4h4d Screen shot of MyEclipse visual designer ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On 9/9/06, Pete Ruckelshaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started playing with Eclipse/CFEclipse a couple of days ago. It's > nice, but I've got to say that there are times when I really missed > Homesite's tag editor dialog. The latest build from source has a tag editor, IIRC. > I'm also trying to figure out how Subclipse works, I've got it > installed but so far I have yet to figure out where the Subversion > functionality is hidden. Window > Perspectives > Other > SVN Repository Explorer or Window > Views > Other > Synchronize for just the sync view. > > Finally, I really don't want to have to create a "project", I'd rather > just jump in and edit, or at the very least point the editor at a > directory tree and tell it "this is a project", but it seems to want > to copy all files into a project workspace. The best way to get around this that I've found so far is to have a "scribble" project, with a shortcut (or symlink) to it's direcotry in my Firefox download directory. That way, I download, extract to the scribble project, switch to eclipse, press F8 to bring up the scribble pad, which points to the scribble project, and viola. I've found this makes it easier to find stuff I was playing with later on, vs. having random files on my desktop or whatever. There are still times where it would be cool to edit right on a file that isn't in the project... As 99% of all my code is in eclipse projects, it is pretty rare to run into that problem, personally. :-/ Good stuff... -denny ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Thanks for the feedback, Denny... However, as a visual developer, I think it speaks volumes that no one on this list (apparently) uses the MyEclipse Visual Plug-in. Something must be lacking...and I don't want to go to a pure code environment. Seems like a waste of time to hand code a bunch of HTML for basic structure of a page. But you're right that the price is right! $40 or so annually for the professional version is great! It would take about 10 years to pay for DW at that rate...and I get all the updates / upgrades as part of the subscription! :o) Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone using the MyEclipse visual designer interface? Not I. Been meaning to check it out. $32/$52 a year isn't very much, and sounds like an interesting way of selling software. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252694 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Do you know if MyEclipse uses anything like Masterborders or areas that are the same on everything page, if so designated? I'd like to be able to create headers, left menu, footer, etc, and have that automatically appear on every page. Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! http://tinyurl.com/l4h4d Screen shot of MyEclipse visual designer ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252693 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Thanks for the screen shot, Denny...I was beginning to think they were ashamed of it or something. I couldn't believe they didn't put any screenshots of it on their website... Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! http://tinyurl.com/l4h4d Screen shot of MyEclipse visual designer On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking > about JSP, which I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold > Fusion...hmmm...no screen shots of the visual designer tool (but they > have screen shots for the coding tools...)...don't mind ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
http://tinyurl.com/l4h4d Screen shot of MyEclipse visual designer On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking about > JSP, which > I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold Fusion...hmmm...no screen shots > of the > visual designer tool (but they have screen shots for the coding > tools...)...don't mind ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone using the MyEclipse visual designer interface? Not I. Been meaning to check it out. $32/$52 a year isn't very much, and sounds like an interesting way of selling software. I'm actually more curious about the UML stuff, but since they aren't pushing CF, I doubt there's any code-generation for it. *sniff* Yeah, it's geared for j2ee development (over simp.), wich is usually java. I guess my tirade was delivered to the cfe list, so y'all missed me pining over the ability to run a instance of CF within Eclipse, and get debug access all awesome like. Looks like it's been done now, woot! Wish it were free, but I didn't have time to make it, or the skillz... I did figure out how to launch a instance of JRun from within Eclipse, which is kind of cool sometimes. System.out pops up in the console... Probably wasn't /too/ far from getting nifty stuff going... LOL. There is a HUGE, really cool tie-in possibility when using eclipse. Since it's all java, and CF is really all java, you could theoretically do all sorts of nifty stuff, anything that the RDS plugin does (without the need for RDS), auto-completion/debug within queries is one I'd like to see for CFE... but having to install WTP for that stuff might be over the top, at least for now. But basically, eclipse is a java based IDE, which is built around the "plug-in" mentality. That's really all eclipse is, a bunch of plugins. So MyEclipse comes along and writes plugins that do things that java web people need, CSS, HTML, etc... then they switched to using WTP (Eclipse's own plugins for doing that stuff) for that functionality, I think, and are now focusing on cooler stuff. But yes, as any tool for eclipse, it is a collection of plugins. The core eclipse plugins are in MyEclipse, along with the ones they have designed to do the nifty stuff they do. Same deal for flex builder. It's got the core Eclipse plugins, but they added custom ones for doing flex, etc.. So MyEclipse and Flex Builder are both built on top of a core Eclipse install. They just have specific plugins. Now the tricky part comes in. Since it's all plugins, and the various plugins are actively developed, you can't always just slap in a new plugin to something like MyEclipse or Flex B, since there might be dependencies on specific versions of a plugin. I love paying that price though, because this stuff IS actively developed, and I've /never/ seen commercial software go so far in such a short time. You really get to see the results as they come out, vs. waiting a few years for things to get "stable", which is kind of a joke anyways, from my exp. with software. Plus, if you want something done, you have the power to do it. I've dug on that quite a bit, and actually added some stuff I needed to the plugins that I use. Priceless. Open Source ROX. Sorry to drift, but I hope I gave a only semi-muddled explination of how MyEclipse, and things like it, relate to Eclipse. :-Denny ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Hey Snake, Doing ||| and replacing with --- worked at the first go for me... must've been something funky. Searching with regular expressions will get folks basically the same functionality as the "search within tag" stuff... but it's a PITA when you are rusty with regex. ;-) On 9/9/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I noticed an issue with search and replace recently. > > I had a CSV a file the contained data like this > > Something|something||something > > The || happen where are where fields that contained no data. > > Doing a search and replace on the | character did not pickup when there > were > more than one | next to each other, so if I had ||| I would have to run > the > search and replace 3 times. > > Russ > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I noticed an issue with search and replace recently. I had a CSV a file the contained data like this Something|something||something The || happen where are where fields that contained no data. Doing a search and replace on the | character did not pickup when there were more than one | next to each other, so if I had ||| I would have to run the search and replace 3 times. Russ -Original Message- From: Kris Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2006 16:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > If one still needs HS+ or CFStudio for find and replace, no chance I > even try CFeclipse! ;-) There is no 5 min I don't find'n replace > something when I develop. Of course Eclipse can do find and replace. I can say that I wish some of the functionality from DW was in there, as mentioned previously, find tag instances, and such. I'd also like there to be an option in the find dialog for "find all". Yes, there is a search workingset/project dialog, but it is separate from the find dialog. Alas. Cheers, Kris ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252672 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Anyone using the MyEclipse visual designer interface? Rick -Original Message- From: Kris Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Of course Eclipse can do find and replace. I can say that I wish some of the functionality from DW was in there, as mentioned previously, find tag instances, and such. I'd also like there to be an option in the find dialog for "find all". Yes, there is a search workingset/project dialog, but it is separate from the find dialog. Alas. Cheers, Kris ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252670 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> If one still needs HS+ or CFStudio for find and replace, no chance I > even try CFeclipse! ;-) > There is no 5 min I don't find'n replace something when I develop. Of course Eclipse can do find and replace. I can say that I wish some of the functionality from DW was in there, as mentioned previously, find tag instances, and such. I'd also like there to be an option in the find dialog for "find all". Yes, there is a search workingset/project dialog, but it is separate from the find dialog. Alas. Cheers, Kris ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252669 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
>>I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and replace. If one still needs HS+ or CFStudio for find and replace, no chance I even try CFeclipse! ;-) There is no 5 min I don't find'n replace something when I develop. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
After a look over the site...it's a little confusing...always talking about JSP, which I don't write...no mention (so far) of Cold Fusion...hmmm...no screen shots of the visual designer tool (but they have screen shots for the coding tools...)...don't mind a monthly fee if it keeps me up-to-date with all the news developments...I pay for my design tools now...DW costs, too... I think I need an outline of how Eclipse works with MyEclipse which works for CFEclipse... Any good, start-to-finish overviews of how all these tools are put together, what the environment looks like, how it works, etc., out there? Sounds like a plug-n-play, mix-n-match system for configuring the components of a software system in to a working development environment... Am I wrong? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Yeah, that has a WYSIWYG tool, but you have to pay for it - I am also not sure if you can add CFEclipse to it as the whole app is actually a bundled eclipse app. I am sure there will be no problems, give it a whirl! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 06:47:04 2006 Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Check out MyEclipse (I think WYSIWYG may be Windows only). Let us know what you think if you try it out. On 9/8/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coding only as far as I can tell. > > Rey... > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... > > > > Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. > > > > I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, then > > hand-code my Cold Fusion code. > > > > Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG interface? > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252667 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
I started playing with Eclipse/CFEclipse a couple of days ago. It's nice, but I've got to say that there are times when I really missed Homesite's tag editor dialog. I'm also trying to figure out how Subclipse works, I've got it installed but so far I have yet to figure out where the Subversion functionality is hidden. Finally, I really don't want to have to create a "project", I'd rather just jump in and edit, or at the very least point the editor at a directory tree and tell it "this is a project", but it seems to want to copy all files into a project workspace. It's OK, but I don't think I'm ready to give Homesite up quite yet. I don't use Dreamweaver at all. Pete On 9/9/06, Coldfusion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there anyway to add in the HELP capability in CFE like there was in > Studio or DW8? > Such as Highlighting a function like CFOUTPUT and hitting F1 to display the > help about > The function/tag? > > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:20 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Yep, I started using Eclipse a little over a year and a half ago and never > looked back. I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and > replace...). > > Once you have all the plugins you need, it is so cool. > > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Sat Sep 09 01:52:50 2006 > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Wow, I'm doing some Ajax work and the Aptana > plugin is just awesome! And the functionality in CFE is VERY sweet. > Other than my FTP issue, this editor rocks. > > Looks like I have a new editor for local development. I'll have to continue > to use CFStudio for doing work when accessing my remote servers...until I > get Subversion installed that is! :o) > > And yes, you guys told me say. Bite me! > > Rey... > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252666 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Is there anyway to add in the HELP capability in CFE like there was in Studio or DW8? Such as Highlighting a function like CFOUTPUT and hitting F1 to display the help about The function/tag? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Yep, I started using Eclipse a little over a year and a half ago and never looked back. I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and replace...). Once you have all the plugins you need, it is so cool. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rey Bango To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 01:52:50 2006 Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Wow, I'm doing some Ajax work and the Aptana plugin is just awesome! And the functionality in CFE is VERY sweet. Other than my FTP issue, this editor rocks. Looks like I have a new editor for local development. I'll have to continue to use CFStudio for doing work when accessing my remote servers...until I get Subversion installed that is! :o) And yes, you guys told me say. Bite me! Rey... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252663 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
It is no so much what I cannot do, more that HS+ and DW are more efficient at it. I remember way back during DW betas that a lot of work was done with F&R, it shows. Other than that, I am Eclipse man. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Mark Mandel To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 08:06:35 2006 Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! What find and replace stuff can't you do in Eclipse? Mark On 9/9/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, I started using Eclipse a little over a year and a half ago and never > looked back. I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and > replace...). > > Once you have all the plugins you need, it is so cool. -- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252661 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
> What find and replace stuff can't you do in Eclipse? In DW, open the find and replace dialog, then select "specific tag" from the "search" drop-down. That's a kind of functionality that I haven't seen elsewhere and can be really useful whenever you work on a tag based language. BTW I want to take the opportunity to thank you for working on CFEclipse. Keep up the good work Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
What find and replace stuff can't you do in Eclipse? Mark On 9/9/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, I started using Eclipse a little over a year and a half ago and never > looked back. I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and > replace...). > > Once you have all the plugins you need, it is so cool. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Yep, I started using Eclipse a little over a year and a half ago and never looked back. I still use HS+ and DW8 for some things though (html, find and replace...). Once you have all the plugins you need, it is so cool. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rey Bango To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 01:52:50 2006 Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Wow, I'm doing some Ajax work and the Aptana plugin is just awesome! And the functionality in CFE is VERY sweet. Other than my FTP issue, this editor rocks. Looks like I have a new editor for local development. I'll have to continue to use CFStudio for doing work when accessing my remote servers...until I get Subversion installed that is! :o) And yes, you guys told me say. Bite me! Rey... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252658 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Yeah, that has a WYSIWYG tool, but you have to pay for it - I am also not sure if you can add CFEclipse to it as the whole app is actually a bundled eclipse app. I am sure there will be no problems, give it a whirl! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Sep 09 06:47:04 2006 Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Check out MyEclipse (I think WYSIWYG may be Windows only). Let us know what you think if you try it out. On 9/8/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coding only as far as I can tell. > > Rey... > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... > > > > Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. > > > > I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, > > then hand-code my Cold Fusion code. > > > > Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG > > interface? > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252657 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Check out MyEclipse (I think WYSIWYG may be Windows only). Let us know what you think if you try it out. On 9/8/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coding only as far as I can tell. > > Rey... > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... > > > > Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. > > > > I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, > > then hand-code my Cold Fusion code. > > > > Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG > > interface? > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Coding only as far as I can tell. Rey... Rick Faircloth wrote: > Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... > > Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. > > I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, > then hand-code my Cold Fusion code. > > Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG > interface? > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > Holy crap I like CFEclipse! > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!
Wanted to talk to a recent convert...so... Rey, I'm a WYSIWYG designer / developer. I like to use a WYSIWYG environment for design purposes, then hand-code my Cold Fusion code. Is CFEclipse a coding tool only or does it have a WYSIWYG interface? Rick -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Holy crap I like CFEclipse! Holy crap I like CFEclipse! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252651 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
