RE: IE7 blocking CF Administrator 'browse' java applet
How can I get IE7 to stop protecting me from my CF administrator's evil attempts to allow me to browse the file system to set up mappings, ect. with Java applets. Add your CF Administrator URL to IE's Trusted Sites zone? I think that'll do it. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293840 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 blocking CF Administrator 'browse' java applet
First make sure you have java installed.. go to java.com and install the latest version.. If that doesn't work, go into IE's tool menu, then internet options, then advanced and allow the java stuff! At 05:03 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: How can I get IE7 to stop protecting me from my CF administrator's evil attempts to allow me to browse the file system to set up mappings, ect. with Java applets. Thank You Ian ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293841 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 vs IE6
Has any one tried IE7, and is it possible to run both version IE6 and IE7 concurrently on the same machine? I've installed IE 7 on most of the machines I use. I haven't tried installing it while keeping IE 6. IE 7 will, by default, remove and replace IE 6. However, you might find this helpful: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 vs IE6
I run IE7 on my machine and IE6 through a Virtual Machine. I use VMWare Player http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 vs IE6 Sorry for the KOT question, but this is a general developer question after all. Has any one tried IE7, and is it possible to run both version IE6 and IE7 concurrently on the same machine? Question of verifying code for both versions of course. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 vs IE6
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Has any one tried IE7, and is it possible to run both version IE6 and IE7 concurrently on the same machine? Question of verifying code for both versions of course. There is a standalone version of IE6 floating around, Google IE6 Standalone. It requires no install and allows exactly what you're looking for. -Mike ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 vs IE6
However, you might find this helpful: It sure helps. Thanks -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 vs IE6
I've found that these standalone IE installs don't do things the same way that IE does. I tested CFQuickDocs with a standalone IE 7 beta installer (before it was released), and most of my JS stuff didn't work. But it works fine with the official IE 7. Microsoft has also noted this in a blog entry about running IE 6 with IE 7, where they recommend using Virtual PC. They even provide a VPC image that has Win XP and IE 6 on it: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/11/30/ie6-and-ie7-running-on-a-single-machine.aspx On 2/8/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, you might find this helpful: It sure helps. Thanks -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 vs IE6
Yeah, IE7 standalone is *not* an installed and working copy of IE7, it cannot be trusted (for developing, not in general!) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Feb 08 21:53:31 2007 Subject: Re: IE7 vs IE6 I've found that these standalone IE installs don't do things the same way that IE does. I tested CFQuickDocs with a standalone IE 7 beta installer (before it was released), and most of my JS stuff didn't work. But it works fine with the official IE 7. Microsoft has also noted this in a blog entry about running IE 6 with IE 7, where they recommend using Virtual PC. They even provide a VPC image that has Win XP and IE 6 on it: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/11/30/ie6-and-ie7-running-on-a-single- machine.aspx On 2/8/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, you might find this helpful: It sure helps. Thanks -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 vs IE6
Yeah, IE7 standalone is *not* an installed and working copy of IE7, it cannot be trusted (for developing, not in general!) Ok, then what's about standard IE7 + IE6 stand alone? Is it possible? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 vs IE6
I have used this for a while now http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE With IE 7 installed as normal and then using this copies version of IE6 to enter some sites that are only IE 6 and seems to work ok to me, You can be really retro and use IE 3 :-) HTH -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 February 2007 22:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 vs IE6 Yeah, IE7 standalone is *not* an installed and working copy of IE7, it cannot be trusted (for developing, not in general!) Ok, then what's about standard IE7 + IE6 stand alone? Is it possible? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269250 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 vs IE6
Don't believe so, IE6 is tied very much into the MSHTML shell of Windows, i doubt you would get decent results or accurate tests. For me, if you want multiple browsers (of the same type), it has to be on VM This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Feb 08 22:45:28 2007 Subject: Re: IE7 vs IE6 Yeah, IE7 standalone is *not* an installed and working copy of IE7, it cannot be trusted (for developing, not in general!) Ok, then what's about standard IE7 + IE6 stand alone? Is it possible? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7, cflogin, and JSMX
Got it. For some reason, IE7 wouldn't accept my javascript function
calls directly within the script tag.Once I placed them inside a
window.onload = function(){}, it seemed to like me again.
Odd that it logged me out as well Maybe one of the new security
features?
I 3 Internet Explorer (not!),
-Jon
On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Jon Clausen wrote:
I've found a weird bug that I'm stuck on.
The problem does not occur with any other browser (FF,IE6, Safari,
Opera). When IE7 hits a page where JSMX is used to generate any
content, CF logs out the user, I receive an Operation aborted
message, and the page redirects to the IE7 connection error page.
The app is a ModelGlue App where the getAuthUser() values are
checked on each page (event) request to deliver content.When I
dump getAuthUser() value in the JSMX generated content, it appears
the the user is being logged out as soon as the http(GET.. ) is
sending it's request (not when the main template fires or it wouldn't
send the AJAX request to begin with).
Any ideas on how I could fix without re-doing the entire auth
framework?
-Jon
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Re: IE7 ?
On 10/19/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... As an interesting side, that I wouldn't mind getting confirmation on, I've heard that a lot of admins are rushing to block the IE7 update, as it will break a lot of in-house type dealies. This is just a rumor from a bud that digs the whole MS rigmarole, but it made me cringe, as it looks like there will be yet another main stream browser to support... Guess that ship has sailed, neh? What a lovely world the web devs live in! I loved the picture of MS eating a bowl of your nuts though. Thanks- it helps, somehow. =] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257690 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
Did it remove your IE6 install? I run the RC standalone as our CMS software does not support IE7, will try stuff when I get in the office..see if it is buggier than the RC, which seemed fine. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Oct 20 04:40:23 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? It isn't rocket science moving the toolbars. That's the problem. Even unlocked they don't move. Wow, it has Tabbed browsing.. You should see that as a hats-off, not a rip-off. I would be if it didn't crash the first 2 times I tried using it. Confused? What the normal user gets confused putting text in an address bar... You'd be surprised. And I don't have the luxury of mocking my clients... just dealing with the fact that though they finally have learned enough to handle themselves, they're being thrown back. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? All due respect but not really a review and on the whole totally anti Microsoft just because. It isn't rocket science moving the toolbars. Protecting yourself is a joke? Wow, it has Tabbed browsing.. You should see that as a hats-off, not a rip-off. Confused? What the normal user gets confused putting text in an address bar... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 21:51:38 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Mike Kear wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257555 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
Here's a fun little note, the history shortcut is no longer ctrl-H it's now ctrl-shft-H. Our intranet App used to capture ctrl-shft-H for our help system... we'll be doing a minor rewrite for that one... Thanks! Christine Davis ColdFusion Lead Nations Technical Services Prairie Village, KS 913-748-8044 ext 4703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? They are hard to see...plus they are in a totally different location from other versions. It's a minor annoyance...but still an annoyance ;-) The other problem is that is puts up an entire page to warn about potentially faked certs. This caused us some problems on a dev server that we were testing a secure portion of the site. We were using a self signed cert. Over all...as I said before...I like it. It took a bit of getting used to...like many new product versions...but I got used to it and found it better. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? - People can't find the Stop and Refresh buttons to save their lives Umm.. it's right next to the address bar on the right. You know, the green circle of arrows thing and the red X? :) -Content management systems; particularly the wysiwyg editor pages, are going to require a dedicated IE7 upgrade FAQ. Try copying pasting in even plain text. Marking the site as 'trusted' seems to clear up most of it but there appears no way to shut off the warnings about 'golly you are pasting text... are you sure???' which pop up routinely now. There appears to be more than one type of event where you must confirm each and every time that you really do want to get your work done and don't want to cancel... This is true. IMHO, it's better to play it safe and make sure you want to do something then to just let the user do it and have it be a problem later. But I'm not here to defend IE7 (nor do I want to). All I'm saying is that while it does take some getting used to, I personally think it's allot better then IE6. Also, just in case my datastream is being monitored, I, in no way, shape or form, represent Microsofts opinions on the matter. They are my own and should not be taken as a sign how Microsoft feels about any issue. :) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
gmail is flopping around on a continuous refresh of a blank screen today. Works great in FF but in IE7 its dead as a doornail -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
On 10/19/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Better think about upgrading, windows 2000 isn't supported anymore bro, or won't be for most to all corps. by the end of 2006. -- Casey ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257333 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 ?
Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257335 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. MS is the only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and now it is considered a dinasour and no more updates etc etc...Just venting I suppose. Doug - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257337 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:13, Doug Brown wrote: Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. Are you confusing 'supported' with 'runs on' ? only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and It's not like Linux is immune to that (eventually), I had to finally retire a RedHat 7.3 box a few weeks back :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to collaboratively target second-generation eyeballs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Yeah, I know what you mean but they can get away with it to a certain degree as their systems are not so tightly integrated into the Windows Shell. What is the status with FF etc supporting other systems? -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. MS is the only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and now it is considered a dinasour and no more updates etc etc...Just venting I suppose. Doug - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257339 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I did not actually mean supporting I meant runs on as Tom pointed out. (Can't you guys figure that out?) Boy, you really have to be precise on here to get your point accross. Anyhow, I suppose I will just have to DEAL with it...Lord knows a little piss-ant like myself dont matter to MS. - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Yeah, I know what you mean but they can get away with it to a certain degree as their systems are not so tightly integrated into the Windows Shell. What is the status with FF etc supporting other systems? -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. MS is the only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and now it is considered a dinasour and no more updates etc etc...Just venting I suppose. Doug - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I suspect that it has dependencies on the XP version of the Explorer shell. I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Of course! That's what they sell! Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? I seriously doubt it. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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LOL... I suppose then your answer is...I bet you could get IE7 to run on Windows 2000 (even if it is standalone) but it would not be supported. ;-) -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? I did not actually mean supporting I meant runs on as Tom pointed out. (Can't you guys figure that out?) Boy, you really have to be precise on here to get your point accross. Anyhow, I suppose I will just have to DEAL with it...Lord knows a little piss-ant like myself dont matter to MS. - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Yeah, I know what you mean but they can get away with it to a certain degree as their systems are not so tightly integrated into the Windows Shell. What is the status with FF etc supporting other systems? -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. MS is the only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and now it is considered a dinasour and no more updates etc etc...Just venting I suppose. Doug - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Not incite a fight, but why does this page say 2010? Do you have a link that says 2006 somewhere? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On 10/19/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Better think about upgrading, windows 2000 isn't supported anymore bro, or won't be for most to all corps. by the end of 2006. -- Casey ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257346 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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That is extended support... usually means large corporations etc who buy it. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Not incite a fight, but why does this page say 2010? Do you have a link that says 2006 somewhere? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On 10/19/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Better think about upgrading, windows 2000 isn't supported anymore bro, or won't be for most to all corps. by the end of 2006. -- Casey ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257350 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Extended support means that Microsoft will only provide security patches for the OS. Which means your copy of IE6 will still have patches created as security vulnerabilities are found, but you won't get any new browsers (for that platform). From another page on Microsoft's site: Note: The Update Rollup for Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (SP4) is the final release of Windows 2000. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/extend edsupport.mspx -- Jeff -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Not incite a fight, but why does this page say 2010? Do you have a link that says 2006 somewhere? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On 10/19/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Better think about upgrading, windows 2000 isn't supported anymore bro, or won't be for most to all corps. by the end of 2006. -- Casey ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257352 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Buy an SPLA license from someone, then it wont cost you a fortune. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 14:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Well, I suppose my point is this. Netscape builds their browser to be supported on just about any platform, as does firefox and others. MS is the only one I know of that builds their browser to be OS dependant. Just kinda sucks in my opinion, I shelled out quite abit of $$ for advanced server and now it is considered a dinasour and no more updates etc etc...Just venting I suppose. Doug - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: IE7 ? Well you can't blame them; this is standard product lifecycle process. Windows 2000 is now in extended support before being deemed End of Life (no patches, upgrades etc). For all intents and purposes Windows 2000 is dead. MS do not plan on shipping an IE7 for Windows 2000 as far as I know. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 13:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On 10/19/06, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not incite a fight, but why does this page say 2010? Do you have a link that says 2006 somewhere? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 My bad... I though my initial research was pulling up correct data. Even so, Extended Support The Extended Support phase follows Mainstream Support for Business and Developer products. At the supported service pack level, Extended Support includes: * Paid support * Security update support at no additional cost * Non-security related hotfix support requires a separate Extended Hotfix Support Agreement to be purchased (per-fix fees also apply) Please note: * Microsoft will not accept requests for warranty support, design changes, or new features during the Extended Support phase * Extended Support is not available for Consumer, Hardware, Multimedia, and Microsoft Dynamics products ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: LOL... I suppose then your answer is...I bet you could get IE7 to run on Windows 2000 (even if it is standalone) but it would not be supported. I'm betting the only way you will get to run IE7 on Win2000 is in a VM running XP...or in a VM running linux with wine and some libraries from XP. But, either way, an XP (or 2003) license will be required. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257356 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:31, Doug Brown wrote: DEAL with it...Lord knows a little piss-ant like myself dont matter to MS. MS only cares about companies who by thousends at a time every 3 years - witness it's attempts to *undercut the price of pirated versions of windows* (!) in some countries. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to ambassadorially engage global IPOs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257355 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Doug Brown wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Why should they continue to develop for a 6 year old OS? rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257357 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. Ever used MS Money? Once a version runs out, it simply won't connect to your accounts any more and you *HAVE* to upgrade, whether you want to or not, in order to continue doing your finances! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257358 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Cool. Thanks. (Running Windows 2K here, with an XP license sitting on my desk. Just too busy/lazy to deal with a complete reinstall. I guess the IE7 release will force the upgrade upon me) -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Importance: High Extended support means that Microsoft will only provide security patches for the OS. Which means your copy of IE6 will still have patches created as security vulnerabilities are found, but you won't get any new browsers (for that platform). From another page on Microsoft's site: Note: The Update Rollup for Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (SP4) is the final release of Windows 2000. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/exte nd edsupport.mspx -- Jeff -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Not incite a fight, but why does this page say 2010? Do you have a link that says 2006 somewhere? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On 10/19/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? Better think about upgrading, windows 2000 isn't supported anymore bro, or won't be for most to all corps. by the end of 2006. -- Casey ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257359 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On Thursday 19 October 2006 15:21, Ray Champagne wrote: busy/lazy to deal with a complete reinstall. I guess the IE7 release will force the upgrade upon me) Why bother ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively lead interdependent action-items This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Because it's being released as a patch in the next couple of weeks and I want to make sure all the standards M$ has implemented aren't blowing up my systems. W3C standards != M$ standards Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On Thursday 19 October 2006 15:21, Ray Champagne wrote: busy/lazy to deal with a complete reinstall. I guess the IE7 release will force the upgrade upon me) Why bother ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively lead interdependent action-items This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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No shit...They will just release IE8 and you will have to do it all over again...:) - Original Message - From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: IE7 ? On Thursday 19 October 2006 15:21, Ray Champagne wrote: busy/lazy to deal with a complete reinstall. I guess the IE7 release will force the upgrade upon me) Why bother ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively lead interdependent action-items This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=FeaturesCE= Large -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 16:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Because it's being released as a patch in the next couple of weeks and I want to make sure all the standards M$ has implemented aren't blowing up my systems. W3C standards != M$ standards Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? On Thursday 19 October 2006 15:21, Ray Champagne wrote: busy/lazy to deal with a complete reinstall. I guess the IE7 release will force the upgrade upon me) Why bother ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively lead interdependent action-items This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
But it isn't in Windows Update yet - that's still a couple of weeks out. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=Features C E= Large ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
Ah, I don't bother about Windows Update ;-) -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 16:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? But it isn't in Windows Update yet - that's still a couple of weeks out. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=Features C E= Large ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
however the beta was here a couple of months ago, and a couple of RC's between then and now as well, so you could have checked a lot of your sites already. Mingo. Kevin Aebig wrote: Because it's being released as a patch in the next couple of weeks and I want to make sure all the standards M$ has implemented aren't blowing up my systems. W3C standards != M$ standards ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 ?
I treat M$ releases like a 2 year old kid. They change everyday and tend to break easily on their own... Until I can get the exact version that will be downloaded by my clients, I wait. It seems the only reason they haven't set it up in Windows Update yet is so that developers can check their work with the final release. !k -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? however the beta was here a couple of months ago, and a couple of RC's between then and now as well, so you could have checked a lot of your sites already. Mingo. Kevin Aebig wrote: Because it's being released as a patch in the next couple of weeks and I want to make sure all the standards M$ has implemented aren't blowing up my systems. W3C standards != M$ standards ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257381 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
Good point. However, I checked CFQuickDocs in one of the betas, and nothing worked. But I tried it in IE 7 last night and most of it worked fine. Microsoft probably got a lot of complaints, because IE 7 was aggressively blocking javascript events, which are common in Ajax sites. -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:35 AM however the beta was here a couple of months ago, and a couple of RC's between then and now as well, so you could have checked a lot of your sites already. Mingo. Kevin Aebig wrote: Because it's being released as a patch in the next couple of weeks and I want to make sure all the standards M$ has implemented aren't blowing up my systems. W3C standards != M$ standards -- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. == EMF idahopower.com made the previous annotations. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
W3C standards != M$ standards Since when has any browser stuck to the standards. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 ?
Good point... but ignoring them because they simply haven't been implemented yet (Firefox) is a lot different than simply ignoring them because you want your way of doing things to become the standard (M$). !k -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? W3C standards != M$ standards Since when has any browser stuck to the standards. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
On 10/19/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point... but ignoring them because they simply haven't been implemented yet (Firefox) is a lot different than simply ignoring them because you want your way of doing things to become the standard (M$). !k Yup... and safari is next on my list of shitty browsers. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257439 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
but ignoring them because they simply haven't been implemented yet (Firefox) is a lot different than simply ignoring them because you want your way of doing things to become the standard (M$). Right, however, when you look at the so called W3 standards, and see how stupid sometimes they are, you may regret that MS standard is not THE standard. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257448 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257453 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 ?
I don't know for sure, but I know that IE 6 removed the previous version. I was able to find an installer on the web that would let me keep IE 6 while testing IE 7 beta. http://techfeed.net/blog/index.cfm/2006/7/17/IE-7-beta-3-standalone You might be able to find something similar for IE 7 final. Personally I'm waiting until Microsoft works out the bugs and holes, and releases it through the update service. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:17 PM Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257460 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
Nope - it completely overwrites IE6. You can try this: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone There are some major limitations, so make sure to read the page carefully before you try it. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257464 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
Mike: http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/18/Oh-look--IE7-is-released in the comments, somebody posted a link to http://browsers.evolt.org/, where you can apparently download standalone versions of older IE browsers. i'm sure they're stripped down to a point...but they likely work well enough for testing purposes. On 10/19/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257465 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
Yes, November 1st. Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Ah, I don't bother about Windows Update ;-) -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 16:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? But it isn't in Windows Update yet - that's still a couple of weeks out. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=Features C E= Large ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257477 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Mike Kear wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257478 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
Or is it October 31st at midnight? ~spooky~ On 10/19/06, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, November 1st. Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Ah, I don't bother about Windows Update ;-) -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 16:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? But it isn't in Windows Update yet - that's still a couple of weeks out. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=Features C E= Large ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257483 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
I leave the updating to our corp rollout.. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 20:55:35 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? Yes, November 1st. Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Ah, I don't bother about Windows Update ;-) -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2006 16:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? But it isn't in Windows Update yet - that's still a couple of weeks out. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Couple of weeks? IE7 is out now... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010CM=Features C E= Large ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: IE7 ?
FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Mike Kear wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257491 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
- It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox Is that a criticism? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IE7 ?
From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IE7 ?
Kevin, like it or not, it's coming. I t's going to steamroller over the top of you if you dont start running in the same direction as it's going. You mightn't like it, but in a surprisingly short time, a HUGE proportion of your users are going to be using it, thanks to windows update. Whether you want to or not, you are going to have to know how to build code that looks good on IE6 AND IE7 AND FF and all the others. Hate it if you wish, but its futile to try to get people not to use it. Bad or not. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 10/20/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257496 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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All due respect but not really a review and on the whole totally anti Microsoft just because. It isn't rocket science moving the toolbars. Protecting yourself is a joke? Wow, it has Tabbed browsing.. You should see that as a hats-off, not a rip-off. Confused? What the normal user gets confused putting text in an address bar... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 21:51:38 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Mike Kear wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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We have over 1750 direct clients and 1 indirect clients. Guess who they're going to call when this shows up unexpectedly. I honestly don't care that they created a bad piece of software. My biggest problem is that they're forcing it down the thoats of my clients and I'm the one getting to pick up the pieces. My apologies for the rant... got a little carried away there. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mike Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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As a side note, I'm sure people using IE 6 said the same thing about the change from IE 5 to IE6. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257509 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I may be biased working at Microsoft and all, but I too had to update and didn't like it. But after working with it for a day or so and getting used to it again, I find it's MUCH better then IE6. But then again, I'm an evil clone of Gates who is hell bent on taking over the world. :) Seriously though, give it a few days and play around with it. You may find that you like it. Original Message: - From: Mike Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:16 -0400 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257508 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Which division of Microsoft do you work in? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:51:22 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I may be biased working at Microsoft and all, but I too had to update and didn't like it. But after working with it for a day or so and getting used to it again, I find it's MUCH better then IE6. But then again, I'm an evil clone of Gates who is hell bent on taking over the world. :) Seriously though, give it a few days and play around with it. You may find that you like it. Original Message: - From: Mike Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:16 -0400 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Not sure what clients you mean or what impact a new browser from Microsoft has to do with them directly at present. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:45:08 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? We have over 1750 direct clients and 1 indirect clients. Guess who they're going to call when this shows up unexpectedly. I honestly don't care that they created a bad piece of software. My biggest problem is that they're forcing it down the thoats of my clients and I'm the one getting to pick up the pieces. My apologies for the rant... got a little carried away there. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mike Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I work on the team that handles (Edited to avoid any NDA issues) the web based portion of a program which is made to help small buisness owners to keep track of their finances and do some other things. Original Message: - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:57:41 +0100 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? Which division of Microsoft do you work in? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:51:22 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I may be biased working at Microsoft and all, but I too had to update and didn't like it. But after working with it for a day or so and getting used to it again, I find it's MUCH better then IE6. But then again, I'm an evil clone of Gates who is hell bent on taking over the world. :) Seriously though, give it a few days and play around with it. You may find that you like it. Original Message: - From: Mike Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:16 -0400 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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As a side note, I'm sure people using IE 6 said the same thing about the change from IE 5 to IE6. IIRC, IE5 was almost the same as IE6. The interface certainly didn't change much. - EMF idahopower.com made the following annotations. -- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. == ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I am suprised Microsoft Money makes any erm... Money :-) And why is ColdFusion involved?! If at all. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 23:08:25 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I work on the team that handles (Edited to avoid any NDA issues) the web based portion of a program which is made to help small buisness owners to keep track of their finances and do some other things. Original Message: - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:57:41 +0100 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? Which division of Microsoft do you work in? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:51:22 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I may be biased working at Microsoft and all, but I too had to update and didn't like it. But after working with it for a day or so and getting used to it again, I find it's MUCH better then IE6. But then again, I'm an evil clone of Gates who is hell bent on taking over the world. :) Seriously though, give it a few days and play around with it. You may find that you like it. Original Message: - From: Mike Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:16 -0400 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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It's not Microsoft Money. :) Look for the release with Office for what I work on. and it has nothing to do with ColdFusion. I'm a tester and I'm just working here to pay the bills and doing some CF work on the side. Original Message: - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:28:36 +0100 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? I am suprised Microsoft Money makes any erm... Money :-) And why is ColdFusion involved?! If at all. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 23:08:25 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I work on the team that handles (Edited to avoid any NDA issues) the web based portion of a program which is made to help small buisness owners to keep track of their finances and do some other things. Original Message: - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:57:41 +0100 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? Which division of Microsoft do you work in? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:51:22 2006 Subject: Re: IE7 ? I may be biased working at Microsoft and all, but I too had to update and didn't like it. But after working with it for a day or so and getting used to it again, I find it's MUCH better then IE6. But then again, I'm an evil clone of Gates who is hell bent on taking over the world. :) Seriously though, give it a few days and play around with it. You may find that you like it. Original Message: - From: Mike Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:16 -0400 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257523 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On 10/19/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, IE5 was almost the same as IE6. The interface certainly didn't change much. No it certainly didn't. IE6 fixed IE5's bugs, for the most part as I recall and that was it. What we're seeing so far: - People can't find the Stop and Refresh buttons to save their lives -Content management systems; particularly the wysiwyg editor pages, are going to require a dedicated IE7 upgrade FAQ. Try copying pasting in even plain text. Marking the site as 'trusted' seems to clear up most of it but there appears no way to shut off the warnings about 'golly you are pasting text... are you sure???' which pop up routinely now. There appears to be more than one type of event where you must confirm each and every time that you really do want to get your work done and don't want to cancel... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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You can thank MS though when the checks start rolling in from bilking, I mean billing, your clients for 'upgrade' work :) DK On 10/19/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have over 1750 direct clients and 1 indirect clients. Guess who they're going to call when this shows up unexpectedly. I honestly don't care that they created a bad piece of software. My biggest problem is that they're forcing it down the thoats of my clients and I'm the one getting to pick up the pieces. My apologies for the rant... got a little carried away there. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mike Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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- People can't find the Stop and Refresh buttons to save their lives Umm.. it's right next to the address bar on the right. You know, the green circle of arrows thing and the red X? :) -Content management systems; particularly the wysiwyg editor pages, are going to require a dedicated IE7 upgrade FAQ. Try copying pasting in even plain text. Marking the site as 'trusted' seems to clear up most of it but there appears no way to shut off the warnings about 'golly you are pasting text... are you sure???' which pop up routinely now. There appears to be more than one type of event where you must confirm each and every time that you really do want to get your work done and don't want to cancel... This is true. IMHO, it's better to play it safe and make sure you want to do something then to just let the user do it and have it be a problem later. But I'm not here to defend IE7 (nor do I want to). All I'm saying is that while it does take some getting used to, I personally think it's allot better then IE6. Also, just in case my datastream is being monitored, I, in no way, shape or form, represent Microsofts opinions on the matter. They are my own and should not be taken as a sign how Microsoft feels about any issue. :) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On 10/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - People can't find the Stop and Refresh buttons to save their lives Umm.. it's right next to the address bar on the right. You know, the green circle of arrows thing and the red X? :) ummm yourself. Try sitting someone with bare minimal computer experience down for the first time and see what their reaction is. I'm sure MS beta tested it but, as I said, this is turning into a common complaint after a grand total of one day. This is true. IMHO, it's better to play it safe and make sure you want to do something then to just let the user do it and have it be a problem later. That is only true if you can permanently adjust the behavior after being warned. Its not true all the time, but some operations are only allowed after a temporary 'ok'. You can't ALWAYS say allow this action for this web site. Interestingly GMail is written in such a way as to not raise any eyebrows, while FCKEditor seems to be quite the punching bag. Another common complaint: When IE refuses to allow something, and the user clicks to allow the action, IE refreshes the page, which in turn destroys the users work. When IE is barfing as the result of a Save button that makes for a messy support call. So far, IE7 seems to have been built as the defender of the lowest common denominator-type user, with the power-user / intranet types getting the sharp end of the stick. I will say, though, that the final version is much more amenable than RC1 was. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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All of our software is browser based. We average approximately 3000 logins a day over 8 applications. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Not sure what clients you mean or what impact a new browser from Microsoft has to do with them directly at present. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 22:45:08 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? We have over 1750 direct clients and 1 indirect clients. Guess who they're going to call when this shows up unexpectedly. I honestly don't care that they created a bad piece of software. My biggest problem is that they're forcing it down the thoats of my clients and I'm the one getting to pick up the pieces. My apologies for the rant... got a little carried away there. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mike Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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O god I wish. =] !k -Original Message- From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? You can thank MS though when the checks start rolling in from bilking, I mean billing, your clients for 'upgrade' work :) DK On 10/19/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have over 1750 direct clients and 1 indirect clients. Guess who they're going to call when this shows up unexpectedly. I honestly don't care that they created a bad piece of software. My biggest problem is that they're forcing it down the thoats of my clients and I'm the one getting to pick up the pieces. My apologies for the rant... got a little carried away there. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mike Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. Tell us how you really feel! Seriously though, why are you so upset about it? If you don't like it, don't use it ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
It isn't rocket science moving the toolbars. That's the problem. Even unlocked they don't move. Wow, it has Tabbed browsing.. You should see that as a hats-off, not a rip-off. I would be if it didn't crash the first 2 times I tried using it. Confused? What the normal user gets confused putting text in an address bar... You'd be surprised. And I don't have the luxury of mocking my clients... just dealing with the fact that though they finally have learned enough to handle themselves, they're being thrown back. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? All due respect but not really a review and on the whole totally anti Microsoft just because. It isn't rocket science moving the toolbars. Protecting yourself is a joke? Wow, it has Tabbed browsing.. You should see that as a hats-off, not a rip-off. Confused? What the normal user gets confused putting text in an address bar... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Oct 19 21:51:38 2006 Subject: RE: IE7 ? FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone Cutter http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Mike Kear wrote: Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257548 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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That's usually what software companies do... Eric -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 07:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: IE7 ? Has anybody heard if MS is going to offer a version for windows 2000? I was at their download page and they only have it for XP and 2003 server. What's up with this? I am so sick of MS they just want you to upgrade their OS everytime a new version of windows comes out. Anybody think one of those would work in 2000? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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How is it different? Eric -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IE7 ? Good point... but ignoring them because they simply haven't been implemented yet (Firefox) is a lot different than simply ignoring them because you want your way of doing things to become the standard (M$). !k -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? W3C standards != M$ standards Since when has any browser stuck to the standards. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Nope...you can only have one or the other... Eric -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Does anyone know if IE7 plays nice with IE6 still on the system?I couldnt afford not to have a working IE6 on my machine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257552 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
The project I just finished up was done tested in IE7 at the clients request. I kinda like it, though I don't like the phishing filter. It slows things down too much so I disabled it. Otherwise I like it. Still getting used to the tabbed browsing thing though...I don't see it as any different that the tabbed browsing in Firefox or Opera. You open a new window and it opens a new tab...how is it any different in implementation? Eric -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? Kevin, like it or not, it's coming. I t's going to steamroller over the top of you if you dont start running in the same direction as it's going. You mightn't like it, but in a surprisingly short time, a HUGE proportion of your users are going to be using it, thanks to windows update. Whether you want to or not, you are going to have to know how to build code that looks good on IE6 AND IE7 AND FF and all the others. Hate it if you wish, but its futile to try to get people not to use it. Bad or not. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 10/20/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI -- IE 7 is a complete piece of trash. I downloaded and installed it today to test our software. Some reasons why: - Poorly laid out I can't seem to unlock the toolbars to move them - Just like the crappy Pop up Blocker, they included a new crappy feature to check for Phishing. - The tabs are a bad implementation - It's completely a rip-off of the best GUI features of Opera, Firefox - Guaranteed that regular users will be confused and have to seek help from their geek (geek = us). All in all, I uninstalled it and got IE 6 back, but frankly I'll personally call up M$ and tell them to eat a bowl of my nuts if they try and force this on me with a patch... Wow... crap. !k ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257553 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: IE7 ?
They are hard to see...plus they are in a totally different location from other versions. It's a minor annoyance...but still an annoyance ;-) The other problem is that is puts up an entire page to warn about potentially faked certs. This caused us some problems on a dev server that we were testing a secure portion of the site. We were using a self signed cert. Over all...as I said before...I like it. It took a bit of getting used to...like many new product versions...but I got used to it and found it better. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IE7 ? - People can't find the Stop and Refresh buttons to save their lives Umm.. it's right next to the address bar on the right. You know, the green circle of arrows thing and the red X? :) -Content management systems; particularly the wysiwyg editor pages, are going to require a dedicated IE7 upgrade FAQ. Try copying pasting in even plain text. Marking the site as 'trusted' seems to clear up most of it but there appears no way to shut off the warnings about 'golly you are pasting text... are you sure???' which pop up routinely now. There appears to be more than one type of event where you must confirm each and every time that you really do want to get your work done and don't want to cancel... This is true. IMHO, it's better to play it safe and make sure you want to do something then to just let the user do it and have it be a problem later. But I'm not here to defend IE7 (nor do I want to). All I'm saying is that while it does take some getting used to, I personally think it's allot better then IE6. Also, just in case my datastream is being monitored, I, in no way, shape or form, represent Microsofts opinions on the matter. They are my own and should not be taken as a sign how Microsoft feels about any issue. :) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257554 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
