Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines, once for each language? i.e. - www.domain.com - www.domain.com?lang=fr What about to DMOZ and other such directories? They have different categories for non-english sites... Cheers, Baz ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234710 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
- www.domain.com?lang=fr that URL may get ignored as it's a dynamic page (the ? tells the bots this). I'd suggest a mod/isapi rewrite to adjust your URL to something like www.domain.com/lang/fr I'm not sure you need to submit once for each language (I would think not), but just wanted to let you kow that dynamic URL will not get indexed (or at leat not alwaysbots are getting smarter). Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234711 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Well there are 2 options you can do. Do a subdomain for each language. http://french.domain.com etc... , or just have a link with the flags of the different countries so a user can choose a different language. The bots should follow the links. I wouldn't worry too much about them not following a dynamic link. Google follows dynamic links and every search engine out there has had to do it to keep up with google. I would consider the subdomain trick though, since they are technically different website google shouldn't hold it against you that you are submitting that page with a different language. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234713 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
This may well start a big war here, but are dynamic URLs really a big problem anymore for todays modern search engine? I have no evidence either way, but it seems to me that they must have come up with some kind of a workaround by now Bryan Stevenson wrote: - www.domain.com?lang=fr that URL may get ignored as it's a dynamic page (the ? tells the bots this). I'd suggest a mod/isapi rewrite to adjust your URL to something like www.domain.com/lang/fr I'm not sure you need to submit once for each language (I would think not), but just wanted to let you kow that dynamic URL will not get indexed (or at leat not alwaysbots are getting smarter). Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234714 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
This may well start a big war here, but are dynamic URLs really a big problem anymore for todays modern search engine? I have no evidence either way, but it seems to me that they must have come up with some kind of a workaround by now It is my understanding that the big search engines can follow dynamic links that are links. Thus things like should work, but there may be a limit on how many combinations are considered. a href=www.adomain.com/catalog.cfm?item=0203color=red.../a But if this is done with forms and/or JavaScript to make more dynamic selection controls, these will not be understood and followed by search engines. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234715 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Well there are 2 options you can do. Do a subdomain for each language. http://french.domain.com etc... , or just have a link with the flags of the different countries so a user can choose a different language. The bots should follow the links. I wouldn't worry too much about them not following a dynamic link. Google follows dynamic links and every search engine out there has had to do it to keep up with google. I would consider the subdomain trick though, since they are technically different website google shouldn't hold it against you that you are submitting that page with a different language. I liked what hp.com did -- they used the 2-letter ISO language code, so hp.com in japanese was jp.hp.com ... Although they appear to have changed their minds since then, since I no longer get a dns response for jp.hp.com. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234716 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Yep, Google indexes them pretty exactly the same as sites with SES url's... which is why I'm glad I never bothered with the whole SES url nonsense... A whole lot of hair-pulling for bupkiss. Plus if you want SES url's, use mod rewrite or isapi rewrite. It's infinitely easier to implement it there than it is to reverse engineer the query string in CF. This may well start a big war here, but are dynamic URLs really a big problem anymore for todays modern search engine? I have no evidence either way, but it seems to me that they must have come up with some kind of a workaround by now s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234717 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Thanks for all the tips... it was my understanding too that search engines play nice with URL vars - I'm not too sure why SES safe URLs are still being talked about so often. Also, just to be sure, I should translate all META keywords and descriptions to each language, correct? You can have more than one set of META data per domain, right? Speaking of which, are there any advantages/disadvantages to customizing your META data for each page of your site? So if one page focuses on cars, but another focuses on racing, you put car-related keywords on one page and race-related keywords on the other. Is this good/bad/ineffective? Cheers, Baz -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines? Yep, Google indexes them pretty exactly the same as sites with SES url's... which is why I'm glad I never bothered with the whole SES url nonsense... A whole lot of hair-pulling for bupkiss. Plus if you want SES url's, use mod rewrite or isapi rewrite. It's infinitely easier to implement it there than it is to reverse engineer the query string in CF. This may well start a big war here, but are dynamic URLs really a big problem anymore for todays modern search engine? I have no evidence either way, but it seems to me that they must have come up with some kind of a workaround by now s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234728 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
that URL may get ignored as it's a dynamic page If it was so, almost all CF pages would be ignored. What is ignored are pages called from forms, because they will certainly cause an error if no field are filled. As far as there is a link from one language to another, both languages should be searched by robots. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234729 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
It is recommended to make each page including the meta tags be specfic to the page's content. Do not spam the meta tags with a bunch of keywords. Just put the main keywords and description to be things that describe the content of the page. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234731 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Thus things like should work, but there may be a limit on how many combinations are considered. a href=www.adomain.com/catalog.cfm?item=0203color=red As far as all the combinations are present in the page under the form of a valid link. I do not see why robots will ignore them. After all, what is the difference between a href=www.adomain.com/catalog.cfm?item=0203color=red and: a href=www.adomain.com/catalogitem203colorred.cfm Robots will not try all possible item Id and all colors. Ok, let's start another war ;-) And what's about links like a href=www.adomain.com/index.cfm?action=catalog ? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234734 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Should I submit a website with 2 languages twice to search engines?
Robert Everland III wrote: Well there are 2 options you can do. Do a subdomain for each language. http://french.domain.com etc... , or just have a link with the flags of the different countries so a user can choose a different language. The bots no. never flags. don't scale will eventually make somebody mad. countries languages. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234762 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
