RE: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread UXB

 . 3.2 will also see the Vivio installers become the official Railo
 installers so folks who like simple click-click-done installers

This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source, if not many open
source alternatives.  It is, again in my opinion, much easier to learn the
ins and outs of a working configuration than one where you have to take
hours to learn to configure before you even know if it is a solution.  

We looked at Ralio for an open source solution on a project but decided on
Open Blue Dragon because we could get it running quickly and easily.



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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source,

Very good point.
Even if CF cannot be qualified as easy to install either.

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RE: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread Russ Michaels

Looks like you missed/not read several of the posts, as has been mentioned
previously there is now a simple installer by Jordan Michaels that installs
Railo with tomcat.
It will probably never be quite as idiot proof as CF because of JRUN and its
custom connector which negates the need to do additional setup other than
enable CF on a website which can be done with the website config tool. This
will always be one of the big benefits of CF to many, although I suspect
Adobe will be replacing JRUN with something else in the next release since
JRUN is discontinued, so it will be interesting to see what they do.


Russ

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Subject: Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open
Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]


 This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source,

Very good point.
Even if CF cannot be qualified as easy to install either.



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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread Sean Corfield

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM, UXB denn...@uxbinternet.com wrote:
 . 3.2 will also see the Vivio installers become the official Railo
 installers so folks who like simple click-click-done installers
 This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
 impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source

That's why Jordan Michaels at Vivio created the installers as a
community volunteer - and that's why they'll be the standard download
bundle, starting with release 3.2 :)

 source alternatives.  It is, again in my opinion, much easier to learn the
 ins and outs of a working configuration than one where you have to take
 hours to learn to configure before you even know if it is a solution.

Well, there's always been the Express bundle - based on Jetty (not
Tomcat like Vivio's installers), it's just a ZIP file you download,
double-click to extract, then double-click the start script. In just a
few seconds Railo/Jetty is running on port . No installation
necessary!
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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread Michael Grant

It sounds like it's a first impression problem. Which is ironically what CF
has suffered from since day one. Many still scoff at CF based on a first
impression they got about it in the 90's or early 00's. Sadly people who
have tried it and been disappointed (be it CF, Railo or whatever
else) aren't very likely to initiate giving it another shot.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM, UXB denn...@uxbinternet.com wrote:
  . 3.2 will also see the Vivio installers become the official Railo
  installers so folks who like simple click-click-done installers
  This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
  impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source

 That's why Jordan Michaels at Vivio created the installers as a
 community volunteer - and that's why they'll be the standard download
 bundle, starting with release 3.2 :)

  source alternatives.  It is, again in my opinion, much easier to learn
 the
  ins and outs of a working configuration than one where you have to take
  hours to learn to configure before you even know if it is a solution.

 Well, there's always been the Express bundle - based on Jetty (not
 Tomcat like Vivio's installers), it's just a ZIP file you download,
 double-click to extract, then double-click the start script. In just a
 few seconds Railo/Jetty is running on port . No installation
 necessary!
 --
 Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
 Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/
 An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

 If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
 -- Margaret Atwoo

 

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RE: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-21 Thread Arsalan Tariq Keen

In my opinion... with a 7 year experience of using ACF and 1 year experience of 
using Railo and a few months experience of using PHP... I believe where 
products like ACF are making CFML feature enrichment and innovation at a 
totally different level, products like Railo are needed to compete PHP and keep 
CFML alive and JAGGED UP!!! All the CFML engines are backed by extremely active 
and supportive communities who are willing to help at no cost :) but what Railo 
has to offer is lightweight, blazing fast, good compatibility with CFML and the 
ability to customise. Things like these were the strongest criticism on CFML I 
guess :)
And one thing more... what I have seen so far is that the complete Railo team 
is present on this ACF list unlike the other way round. This gives the Railo 
team the edge of competitor awareness ... if you know what I mean ;)

 
Regards,Arsalan

 To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open 
 Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]
 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:10:19 -0500
 From: mgr...@modus.bz
 
 
 It sounds like it's a first impression problem. Which is ironically what CF
 has suffered from since day one. Many still scoff at CF based on a first
 impression they got about it in the 90's or early 00's. Sadly people who
 have tried it and been disappointed (be it CF, Railo or whatever
 else) aren't very likely to initiate giving it another shot.
 
 On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM, UXB denn...@uxbinternet.com wrote:
   . 3.2 will also see the Vivio installers become the official Railo
   installers so folks who like simple click-click-done installers
   This, the lack of simple installation, in my opinion is the biggest
   impediment to attracting new people to the CF open source
 
  That's why Jordan Michaels at Vivio created the installers as a
  community volunteer - and that's why they'll be the standard download
  bundle, starting with release 3.2 :)
 
   source alternatives.  It is, again in my opinion, much easier to learn
  the
   ins and outs of a working configuration than one where you have to take
   hours to learn to configure before you even know if it is a solution.
 
  Well, there's always been the Express bundle - based on Jetty (not
  Tomcat like Vivio's installers), it's just a ZIP file you download,
  double-click to extract, then double-click the start script. In just a
  few seconds Railo/Jetty is running on port . No installation
  necessary!
  --
  Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
  Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/
  An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
 
  If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
  -- Margaret Atwoo
 
  
 
 

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What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Matthew Lesko

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4480205/what-notable-differences-are-there-between-railo-open-bluedragon-and-adobe-cold

Posting here to in hopes list readers will post new, useful answers. 

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Russ Michaels

you may also find this comparison helpful.

http://www.cfmldeveloper.com/page.cfm/coldfusion-vs-railo-1

Russ

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 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4480205/what-notable-differences-are-there-between-railo-open-bluedragon-and-adobe-cold

 Posting here to in hopes list readers will post new, useful answers.

 

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Claude Schnéegans

I tried to give a test to Railo some months ago.
The lack of documentation made me give up after a few days.
I finally upgraded to CF 9.
Documentation is the most important thing for developers.
For the same reason, I hate Mozilla.
It may be many times better than Explorer, but their documentation is a joke.
Same for Railo.
I hate those open source or free stuff.
And when you complain about it, you usually get some answer like Why don't you 
contribute?
I use them not because I like them and I want to contribute, but because some 
visitors use them and I need to have my product compatible.

The more undocumented free gadgets on the market, the more trouble for us 
developers.


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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Raymond Camden

Wow, this is incredible. You hate open source and free stuff?
Really? I've used plenty of commercial software with crappy
documentation. Open source, or free, does not automatically equal
crappy documentation. And what kind of docs are you looking for in
your browser?



On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:20 AM,   wrote:

 I tried to give a test to Railo some months ago.
 The lack of documentation made me give up after a few days.
 I finally upgraded to CF 9.
 Documentation is the most important thing for developers.
 For the same reason, I hate Mozilla.
 It may be many times better than Explorer, but their documentation is a joke.
 Same for Railo.
 I hate those open source or free stuff.
 And when you complain about it, you usually get some answer like Why don't 
 you contribute?
 I use them not because I like them and I want to contribute, but because some 
 visitors use them and I need to have my product compatible.

 The more undocumented free gadgets on the market, the more trouble for us 
 developers.




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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 Open source, or free, does not automatically equal crappy documentation.

At least for the two examples I gave, YES!

 And what kind of docs are you looking for in your browser?

Mostly Javascript and CSS.
As far as HTML is concerned, there are not really differences.


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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Matthew Lesko

 you may also find this comparison helpful.
 
 http://www.cfmldeveloper.com/page.cfm/coldfusion-vs-railo-1
 
 Russ
 
 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Lesko m.le...@verizon.net 
 wrote:
 
Thanks I've added this to an answer on the site. Comments are just as 
interesting as the actual comparison. 

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Matthew Lesko

 I tried to give a test to Railo some months ago.
 The lack of documentation made me give up after a few days.
 I finally upgraded to CF 9.
 Documentation is the most important thing for developers.
 For the same reason, I hate Mozilla.
 It may be many times better than Explorer, but their documentation is 
 a joke.
 Same for Railo.
 I hate those open source or free stuff.
 And when you complain about it, you usually get some answer like Why 
 don't you contribute?
 I use them not because I like them and I want to contribute, but 
 because some visitors use them and I need to have my product 
 compatible.
 

This a ranting flame. That's why I'm doing this on stackoverflow, at least it 
has features to highlight useful answers and remove the inane. 
 The more undocumented free gadgets on the market, the more trouble for 
 us developers.


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RE: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Russ Michaels

Documentation for Railo is indeed poor, but they are aware and they are
working on it, it has been improving slowly and there is now a good
installer as well. But remember this is really only with regards with
installing and setup. When it comes to CFML programming the docs for Railo
is pretty much the same as ColdFusion.
This is however the main reason why I created www.cfmldeveloepr.com, so
people can try out and use ColdFusion and Railo the easy way, without having
to install or setup anything.

But it is horses for courses, if you want a commercial product with tons of
good docs then stick with CF, Railo is really aimed at a different market,
those who like open source and have the Java technical skills and knowledge
to use Tomcat or other Java sevlet containers or are willing to learn love
it, or those who simply don't have the money for CF or simply don't want to
pay for it and would go that extra mile for a free solution are giving it a
try.
Sadly the CF community has shown itself to be full of nasty vindictive,
abusive trolls who have nothing better to do than flame Railo and anyone who
uses it. Which is totally pointless and only serves to make them and the
ColdFusion community at large look pathetic and has already started to
divide the community which is a shame.
If you like open source then use it, if you don't then don't use it,
simples, but please don't try and paint it all with the same brush, some
open source products have amazing docs, better than many commercial
products. Even within the CF world take a look at the ColdBox framework,
incredible documentation.



Russ
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Subject: Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open
Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]


I tried to give a test to Railo some months ago.
The lack of documentation made me give up after a few days.
I finally upgraded to CF 9.
Documentation is the most important thing for developers.
For the same reason, I hate Mozilla.
It may be many times better than Explorer, but their documentation is a
joke.
Same for Railo.
I hate those open source or free stuff.
And when you complain about it, you usually get some answer like Why don't
you contribute?
I use them not because I like them and I want to contribute, but because
some visitors use them and I need to have my product compatible.

The more undocumented free gadgets on the market, the more trouble for us
developers.




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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 When it comes to CFML programming the docs for Railo
is pretty much the same as ColdFusion.

Pretty much, until you find something that works under CF and does not under 
Railo.
Most of the time, it is only a detail, but it can cost you hours.

The least would be some good docs about what's in CF and is not in Railo, and 
vice versa.

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread David McGraw

There are docs on the Railo site which details exactly what is and isn't
supported across the different platforms.

I use Railo, I find is a great alternative for most of my clients. - Then
again, we develop in multiple languages, so to me, it's just another
language to know the difference in syntax, like going form PHP to CF.

Regards,
David McGraw
Oyova Software, LLC

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM,  wrote:


  When it comes to CFML programming the docs for Railo
 is pretty much the same as ColdFusion.

 Pretty much, until you find something that works under CF and does not
 under Railo.
 Most of the time, it is only a detail, but it can cost you hours.

 The least would be some good docs about what's in CF and is not in Railo,
 and vice versa.

 

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread James Holmes

http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/documentation/compatibility/cfml-compatibility/

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On 21 December 2010 01:20,   wrote:

 The least would be some good docs about what's in CF and is not in Railo, and 
 vice versa.

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Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Sean Corfield

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:20 AM,   wrote:

In Gmail, this post seems to be from an anonymous user...

 I hate those open source or free stuff.

...so I visited the HoF site and I see it's Claude Schneegans, in
which case the negativity makes perfect sense.

 The more undocumented free gadgets on the market, the more trouble for us 
 developers.

Yeah, down with choice. Choice bad :)

Yup, the Railo documentation could do with some improvement. Lots of
people are working on it and folks will see a big improvement soon
when the 3.2 release goes gold with a lot of new documentation - and
it should just keep getting better. Just bear in mind most of the
documentation is created by volunteers, fitting it in around their day
jobs. 3.2 will also see the Vivio installers become the official Railo
installers so folks who like simple click-click-done installers
should be happy (as an old hand *nix guy, I still think GUIs and
wizards are over-rated but what does this old fart know, eh? :)
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RE: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]

2010-12-20 Thread Russ Michaels

Which is exactly what I am trying to do here
http://www.cfmldeveloper.com/page.cfm/coldfusion-vs-railo-1, sadly I am not
getting much input from others so I am only able to update it base don my
own experiences, but as I migrate apps between Cf/Railo I do take note of
things I have to fix and I document them.

You will also find plenty of info/help on the Railo discussion list on this
topic as well as the WIKI. I expect you can also ask such questions on this
list also.



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Sent: 20 December 2010 17:20
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: What Notable Differences are there between Railo, Open
Bluedragon, and Adobe Coldfusion? [Stackoverflow.com]


 When it comes to CFML programming the docs for Railo
is pretty much the same as ColdFusion.

Pretty much, until you find something that works under CF and does not
under Railo.
Most of the time, it is only a detail, but it can cost you hours.

The least would be some good docs about what's in CF and is not in Railo,
and vice versa.



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