Re: Simultaneous threads and maintain database connections

2014-08-20 Thread george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov

Hi back, Dave!

> > Or do the request thread and the database connection operate 
> independently of each other?
> 
> Yes, they're completely independent.

Thanks. This is what I always thought but I read something that made me think 
things might be otherwise.

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Re: Simultaneous threads and maintain database connections

2014-08-20 Thread Dave Watts

Hi, George!

> Is there a relationship between CF simultaneous requests and maintained 
> database connections?

No, not really.

> Does a maintained database connection use one of the threads allocated for 
> simultaneous requests?

No. Database connections use their own separate thread pool. The basic
pooling mechanism is pretty similar, though.

> For example, suppose in Request Tuning I have simultaneous (Template) 
> requests  set to 10 and in
> CF data source settings I have Maintain Connections checked with Timeout set 
> to 20 (minutes).
>
> A request completes. The database connection now is inactive and remains so 
> for at least 20 minutes.
> CF maintains the connection to the database for 20 minutes.
>
> Does the maintained database connection also continue to hold on to the 
> thread that was being used
> by the request that completed for the same 20 minutes?

No.

> Or do the request thread and the database connection operate independently of 
> each other?

Yes, they're completely independent.

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Simultaneous threads and maintain database connections

2014-08-20 Thread george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov

Is there a relationship between CF simultaneous requests and maintained 
database connections?

Does a maintained database connection use one of the threads allocated for 
simultaneous requests?

For example, suppose in Request Tuning I have simultaneous (Template) requests  
set to 10 and in CF data source settings I have Maintain Connections checked 
with Timeout set to 20 (minutes).

A request completes. The database connection now is inactive and remains so for 
at least 20 minutes. CF maintains the connection to the database for 20 
minutes. 

Does the maintained database connection also continue to hold on to the thread 
that was being used by the request that completed for the same 20 minutes? 

Or do the request thread and the database connection operate independently of 
each other?

Thanks!

George 

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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 03 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. Should one put .cfm files under the WEB-INF directory?

Nope.
We have a separate web root, set that as DocumentRoot in Apache and all is 
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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-03 Thread Simon Harper
Hi again,

Thanks for taking the time to point me in the right direction with this one. 
I've done a little more investigation and I've discovered that this the change 
in behaviour is not simply due to the move from CF7 to CF8.

I am happy to confirm that I have now seen DB connections pooled correctly in 
CF8 using Firebird's Jaybird driver.

This does leave me with a couple of interesting questions, although not ones 
that really needs answers as I can work around the problem.

Here's the scenario: I have a number of Linux boxes each with a CF8 enterprise 
instance, the CF instances are clustered. Each box also has an Apache 
installation, each Apache can see the whole cluster. The Apache instances are 
load balanced. The web source code is on an NFS share which each Linux box has 
mounted.

I decided it would be convenient to have a bit of code on each server which 
would not come from the NFS share and would be unique to each server. It simply 
provides information to the load balancers about how the servers are getting 
on. I discovered this could be achieved by dropping this code into CF's WEB-INF 
directory. It's the code which runs here which builds a new connection to the 
DB each time it's run, seemingly ignoring the pooling settings, although it 
simply refers to the same datasource as the main app.

As it turns out, this code wasn't unique after all and it can return to the NFS 
share but it raises a couple of interesting questions:

1. Should one put .cfm files under the WEB-INF directory?
2. Is it significant / interesting that it seems to behave differently with 
respect to DB pooling?

Cheers,

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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-02 Thread Simon Harper
Thanks Tom - will do.

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On Tuesday 02 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You're right to suspect that I don't have any direct evidence for this ;-)

Well, I'd certainly fire up the server monitor or DB layer debugging then.
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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 02 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You're right to suspect that I don't have any direct evidence for this ;-)

Well, I'd certainly fire up the server monitor or DB layer debugging then.
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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-02 Thread Simon Harper
>How do you know it's not working ? Poor performance could be a vast number of 
>things.

Hi Tom,

You're right to suspect that I don't have any direct evidence for this ;-) I'm 
basing my suspicion on the fact that I see the following in the database logs:

Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12168 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12169 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12170 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12171 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12172 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12173 from=web_server
Oct  2 08:55:56 db_server xinetd[2232]: START: gds_db pid=12174 from=web_server

... etc. about six entries per second. As I said before we have a CF7 server as 
well which only appears in this log every few minutes. These entries only 
appear when I start the CF instance on the web server machine and disappear 
when it is stopped.

Also, the CF8 server has approximately 90 connections to the DB at any one 
point where as the CF7 server has 15.

It is possible to enable logging on the DB driver so I'll turn that on and take 
a look.

>Some databases (maybe FireBird) do actively drop idling connections, in 
>certain circumstances. Or if the network drops out, that will do it too.

Thanks again Tom. I'm quite happy to accept that the DB driver will need to be 
looked at again, but I was particularly interested to hear if this had been 
noticed elsewhere. I suspect not.

Regards,

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RE: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-02 Thread Simon Harper
>> Having just moved one of our sites from CF7 to CF8 I've 
>> noticed that the connection pooling (Maintain Connections) 
>> setting is not working 
>> This is having a horrible effect on performance of the site

Dave Watts wrote:

>If you check the neo-datasource.xml file for your datasource, do you see any
>information pertaining to connection pooling?

Thanks for looking, Dave. Yes, I've checked the XML file and each of the 
datasources contains the following:





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RE: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-01 Thread Dave Watts
> Having just moved one of our sites from CF7 to CF8 I've 
> noticed that the connection pooling (Maintain Connections) 
> setting is not working (I've unticked and ticked again to 
> check!). The sites left on the CF7 installation are still 
> working with the same driver as I would expect.
> 
> This is having a horrible effect on performance of the site 
> and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this. We're 
> using Firebird DB (which I don't suppose many people are!) 
> but I would have thought the job of maintaining the 
> connections would fall to CF/JRun.

If you check the neo-datasource.xml file for your datasource, do you see any
information pertaining to connection pooling?

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Re: Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-01 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 01 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having just moved one of our sites from CF7 to CF8 I've noticed that the
> connection pooling (Maintain Connections) setting is not working (I've
> unticked and ticked again to check!). 

How do you know it's not working ? Poor performance could be a vast number of 
things.

> (which I don't suppose many people are!) but I would have thought the job
> of maintaining the connections would fall to CF/JRun.

Some databases (maybe FireBird) do actively drop idling connections, in 
certain circumstances. Or if the network drops out, that will do it too.

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Maintaining database connections :: not working

2007-10-01 Thread Simon Harper
Hi,

Having just moved one of our sites from CF7 to CF8 I've noticed that the 
connection pooling (Maintain Connections) setting is not working (I've unticked 
and ticked again to check!). The sites left on the CF7 installation are still 
working with the same driver as I would expect.

This is having a horrible effect on performance of the site and I'm wondering 
if anyone else has experienced this. We're using Firebird DB (which I don't 
suppose many people are!) but I would have thought the job of maintaining the 
connections would fall to CF/JRun.

Does anyone have any ideas how to crack this one?

Thanks,

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RE: Check database connections

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Wood
Yes, sp_who or select * from sysprocesses would work, but he stated that
he didn't have access to the database server.

That is a good question.  I bet there is something in service factory
which will tell you.


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-Original Message-
From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Check database connections

>Well.. for SQL server...
>
>Do you have access to the database server?  You can use a perfmon to
see
>current connections.
>
>Also, for SQL 2000 you can use Enterprise Manager (Management - Current
>Activity) and for SQL 2005 you can use SQL studio.
>
>Jacob
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:56 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Check database connections
>
>Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open
to a
>particular database?  Without having to ask a DBA to check?  The app
runs on
>MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database.

No, we don't have access to the database server (for SQL Server).  I was
trying to find a way to check the number of connections through CF
somehow.  Haven't had much luck with that search.

How about checking connections to an Oracle database?  This SQL Server
database is going to migrate to Oracle sometime in the near future.
Plus, we have our own Oracle database (the SQL Server database is owned
by an outside vendor and we just read from it).  So if I can figure out
how to check connections to an Oracle database I'll feel like I've made
some progress.  Thanks.



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Re: Check database connections

2007-05-02 Thread Tom G
>Well.. for SQL server...
>
>Do you have access to the database server?  You can use a perfmon to see
>current connections.
>
>Also, for SQL 2000 you can use Enterprise Manager (Management - Current
>Activity) and for SQL 2005 you can use SQL studio.
>
>Jacob
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:56 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Check database connections
>
>Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open to a
>particular database?  Without having to ask a DBA to check?  The app runs on
>MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database.

No, we don't have access to the database server (for SQL Server).  I was trying 
to find a way to check the number of connections through CF somehow.  Haven't 
had much luck with that search.

How about checking connections to an Oracle database?  This SQL Server database 
is going to migrate to Oracle sometime in the near future.  Plus, we have our 
own Oracle database (the SQL Server database is owned by an outside vendor and 
we just read from it).  So if I can figure out how to check connections to an 
Oracle database I'll feel like I've made some progress.  Thanks.

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RE: Check database connections

2007-05-02 Thread Jacob
Well.. for SQL server...

Do you have access to the database server?  You can use a perfmon to see
current connections.

Also, for SQL 2000 you can use Enterprise Manager (Management - Current
Activity) and for SQL 2005 you can use SQL studio.

Jacob

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Check database connections

Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open to a
particular database?  Without having to ask a DBA to check?  The app runs on
MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database.



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Check database connections

2007-05-02 Thread Tom G
Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open to a 
particular database?  Without having to ask a DBA to check?  The app runs on 
MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database.

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Re: Timeouts and Database Connections

2006-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tom Kitta wrote:
> Delete operations use exclusive locks on SQL server by default

Hence you should make sure you have set the transaction to use a snapshot 
isolation level.

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RE: Timeouts and Database Connections

2006-09-30 Thread Tom Kitta
Looks like someone is locking a table during user interaction - this is a
bug. You never lock a table with even CF code in it that could run few ms,
not to mention user interaction. Remove user from the transaction and all
will be fine.

Delete operations use exclusive locks on SQL server by default thus delete
operation will block read operation (which is not a dirty read). Your
problem is the user interaction inside a transaction.

TK

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Smith, Daron [PA] wrote:
> I recently had CF lock up a bunch of times because a main table used
> on
> the website was locked for a delete operation and waiting for a user
> confirmation response.  I have the overall timeout setting in the
> cfadmin set to 30 seconds however queries against this table were
> eventually causing CF to lockup as the table was locked.  Is there
> another way to ensure that queries against a locked table will fail
> rather than waiting?  The query was against SQL Server if that makes
> a difference.

What is the default isolation level of your database? I don't think you
would want to run an isolation level where deletes block reads for a
website.

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Re: Timeouts and Database Connections

2006-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Smith, Daron [PA] wrote:
> I recently had CF lock up a bunch of times because a main table used 
> on
> the website was locked for a delete operation and waiting for a user
> confirmation response.  I have the overall timeout setting in the
> cfadmin set to 30 seconds however queries against this table were
> eventually causing CF to lockup as the table was locked.  Is there
> another way to ensure that queries against a locked table will fail
> rather than waiting?  The query was against SQL Server if that makes 
> a difference.

What is the default isolation level of your database? I don't think you would 
want to run an isolation level where deletes block reads for a website.

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RE: Timeouts and Database Connections

2006-09-29 Thread Russ
I think you can use either

Select * from table with (nolock) which will get you old data before the
other transaction took place or 

Select * from table with (updlock, nowait) which will put an update lock on
the table (records maybe?) and will not wait if it can't get a lock. 

You can also try just "with (nowait)" to see if that works for you as well. 

Russ

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> I recently had CF lock up a bunch of times because a main table used on
> the website was locked for a delete operation and waiting for a user
> confirmation response.  I have the overall timeout setting in the
> cfadmin set to 30 seconds however queries against this table were
> eventually causing CF to lockup as the table was locked.  Is there
> another way to ensure that queries against a locked table will fail
> rather than waiting?  The query was against SQL Server if that makes a
> difference.
> 
> Thanks,
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Timeouts and Database Connections

2006-09-29 Thread Smith, Daron [PA]
I recently had CF lock up a bunch of times because a main table used on
the website was locked for a delete operation and waiting for a user
confirmation response.  I have the overall timeout setting in the
cfadmin set to 30 seconds however queries against this table were
eventually causing CF to lockup as the table was locked.  Is there
another way to ensure that queries against a locked table will fail
rather than waiting?  The query was against SQL Server if that makes a
difference.

Thanks,
Daron Smith
PSEA IT

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Re: database connections

2004-08-31 Thread Douglas Knudsen
there is a timeout setting in the CFADMIN tool for this.  I'd guess
turning off teh 'maintain connections' should kill each connection
after the timeout, maybe before I can't recall.  ah...the docs have

Timeout (min)
 The maximum number of minutes after the data source connection is
made that you want ColdFusion MX to cache a connection after it is
used.

 
Interval (min)
 The time (in minutes) that the server waits between cycles to check
for expired data source connections to close.

 
Doug

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Here is the deal.

I have CFMX on my laptop with dev apps that connect to the mssql
server. I use an app that hits 3 different data sources which would
create 3 processes on the sql server.

Lets say I shut down and restart my laptop and run the app again. I
now have 6 processes running on the sql server.

In CF Admin I have maintain connections checked. If I uncheck it, will
that help or fix the problem?

Also, is there a way to time out connections on the sql server?

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database connections

2004-08-31 Thread Phill B
Here is the deal.

I have CFMX on my laptop with dev apps that connect to the mssql
server. I use an app that hits 3 different data sources which would
create 3 processes on the sql server.

Lets say I shut down and restart my laptop and run the app again. I
now have 6 processes running on the sql server.

In CF Admin I have maintain connections checked. If I uncheck it, will
that help or fix the problem?

Also, is there a way to time out connections on the sql server?

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JRUN drops database connections

2004-03-30 Thread Bosky, Dave
It seems JRUN keeps dropping connections from the database(using connection
pooling).
Are there any know issues with db connections being dropped for no apparent
reason.
We are running JRUN4 w/updater 3 and MS SQL Server 2000 sp4. We've tried
using both 
Macromedia and Microsoft JDBC drivers and the problem occurs with both of
them.
The issue also occurred when using updater 2 and we thought(hoped) updater 3
would resolve the issue but no luck. 

I know this is the ColdFusion forum but.

Thanks,
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RE: Maintain database connections

2004-01-22 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm helping to setup a new live CF5 Pro server and I've heard 
> that "Maintain database connections" should be unchecked in a 
> shared environment. Does anyone know what best practice is on 
> this?

In general, you want to maintain database connections, because they're
expensive to create and destroy at runtime. However, there are some cases
where you might not want to do this:

- if your specific database environment (including drivers) doesn't work
well with it enabled,
- if you're using a file-based database like MS Access and you want to be
able to overwrite the file while CF is running
- if your application can't take advantage of them because it's using
user-specific database logins for each application user, and has very few
database interactions per user

On a slightly unrelated note, I'd like to point out that best practices are
not often monolithic. They tend to be fluid, and dependent on your
situation.

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Maintain database connections

2004-01-22 Thread Stan Winchester
I’m helping to setup a new live CF5 Pro server and I’ve heard that “Maintain
database connections” should be unchecked in a shared environment. Does
anyone know what best practice is on this?

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Re: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Matt Robertson
Thx!  I figured it was somewhere in there.

Cheers,

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date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:41:32 -0800

>On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 08:29 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
>> As I understand it, disabling that setting is the recommended best
>> practice for Access.  Keeps things from crashing outright, so in this
>> narrow circumstance there is no downside.  An article on this was in 
>> the
>> KB somewhere.  It was entitled along the lines of ''using access in
>> production environments''.  I couldn't find it by searching for
>> "access".
>
>http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=1540&Method=Full
>
>> Whatever happened to the plain ol' KB?  Did it get absorbed into
>> something?  I couldn't even find the thing on the MM site.
>
>On the home page, in the Flash movie, mouse over Support and click 
>SHORTCUTS. Enter your query, select the ColdFusion support center and 
>click SEARCH.
>
>Admittedly, that search didn't turn up the article. But from the 
>results page I clicked this link:
>
>http://www.macromedia.com/v1/support/knowledgebase/searchform.cfm
>
>And that gave me a 'power search' on the old KB.
>
>In fact, http://www.allaire.com/support/knowledgebase/searchform.cfm 
>still works, just like it did a year ago (it was my team that had to 
>build the web server magic to make sure all the old URLs continued to 
>work when we merged the sites! :)
>
>Hope that helps!
>
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Re: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 08:29 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
> As I understand it, disabling that setting is the recommended best
> practice for Access.  Keeps things from crashing outright, so in this
> narrow circumstance there is no downside.  An article on this was in 
> the
> KB somewhere.  It was entitled along the lines of ''using access in
> production environments''.  I couldn't find it by searching for
> "access".

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=1540&Method=Full

> Whatever happened to the plain ol' KB?  Did it get absorbed into
> something?  I couldn't even find the thing on the MM site.

On the home page, in the Flash movie, mouse over Support and click 
SHORTCUTS. Enter your query, select the ColdFusion support center and 
click SEARCH.

Admittedly, that search didn't turn up the article. But from the 
results page I clicked this link:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/support/knowledgebase/searchform.cfm

And that gave me a 'power search' on the old KB.

In fact, http://www.allaire.com/support/knowledgebase/searchform.cfm 
still works, just like it did a year ago (it was my team that had to 
build the web server magic to make sure all the old URLs continued to 
work when we merged the sites! :)

Hope that helps!

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RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Ilyinsky, Igor
Another thing to be aware of is that Maintained DB connections are actually cached by 
CF (I'm pretty sure); so if a network outage causes an error when attempting to 
connect to a DB, CF can cache that error, and prohibit the DB connection even when the 
network is back up.

This may not really be an issue on a local connection to access; but then again, why 
would you be concerned about performance on such a configuration.

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As I understand it, disabling that setting is the recommended best
practice for Access.  Keeps things from crashing outright, so in this
narrow circumstance there is no downside.  An article on this was in the
KB somewhere.  It was entitled along the lines of ''using access in
production environments''.  I couldn't find it by searching for
"access".  

Whatever happened to the plain ol' KB?  Did it get absorbed into
something?  I couldn't even find the thing on the MM site.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com



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From: Paul Sinclair [mailto:lists@;mail1.kingcrest.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections


I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on
a
server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the
sites
up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections"
setting in
the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems to take
care
of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside
is
to disabling that setting?

Thanks for advice.

Paul Sinclair



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RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Matt,

I have the same problem with MM's resources.  I'm always having to wade
through stuff to find the plain old technical articles - while tutorials
abound.

-mk

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Subject: RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections


As I understand it, disabling that setting is the recommended best
practice for Access.  Keeps things from crashing outright, so in this
narrow circumstance there is no downside.  An article on this was in the
KB somewhere.  It was entitled along the lines of ''using access in
production environments''.  I couldn't find it by searching for
"access".

Whatever happened to the plain ol' KB?  Did it get absorbed into
something?  I couldn't even find the thing on the MM site.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com



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From: Paul Sinclair [mailto:lists@;mail1.kingcrest.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections


I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on
a
server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the
sites
up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections"
setting in
the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems to take
care
of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside
is
to disabling that setting?

Thanks for advice.

Paul Sinclair



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RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Matt Robertson
As I understand it, disabling that setting is the recommended best
practice for Access.  Keeps things from crashing outright, so in this
narrow circumstance there is no downside.  An article on this was in the
KB somewhere.  It was entitled along the lines of ''using access in
production environments''.  I couldn't find it by searching for
"access".  

Whatever happened to the plain ol' KB?  Did it get absorbed into
something?  I couldn't even find the thing on the MM site.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com



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From: Paul Sinclair [mailto:lists@;mail1.kingcrest.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections


I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on
a
server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the
sites
up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections"
setting in
the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems to take
care
of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside
is
to disabling that setting?

Thanks for advice.

Paul Sinclair


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RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Paul,

The downside is that you are adding overhead to each request by making them
negotiate a connection rather than selecting from existing connections.
This is worth it in your case however, as it seems to solve your performance
problem on another level. Access has a connection "threshold" for stability
that I've heard is as low as "25 connections (i.e. more than 25 connections
and performance begins to degrade) and as high as 75.  Different folks say
different things - but everybody says this ... "don't run your production
sites on access" . It sounds like you are well on your way to solving
this problem by migrating to SQL.  The only other tip that "some" have made
regarding access is that the OLE DB drivers tend to perform better.

-mk

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections


I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on a
server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the sites
up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections" setting in
the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems to take care
of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside is
to disabling that setting?

Thanks for advice.

Paul Sinclair


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RE: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Ironically, disabling persistent database connections should slow down
database access since every call would require the creation of a new
database connection.  Go figure.

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> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections
>
>
> I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on a
> server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
> process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the sites
> up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections"
> setting in
> the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems
> to take care
> of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside is
> to disabling that setting?
>
> Thanks for advice.
>
> Paul Sinclair
>
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Downside to disabling "Maintain Database Connections

2002-11-06 Thread Paul Sinclair
I posted a note yesterday re several sites running veeey slow on a
server. I have a couple sites that are MS Access databases. I am in the
process of moving these to SQL but in the interim I need to keep the sites
up. I found that by disabling the "Maintain Database Connections" setting in
the ODBC configuration for these Access databases that it seems to take care
of the problem for the most part. I am just wondering what the downside is
to disabling that setting?

Thanks for advice.

Paul Sinclair

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CF Admin- Database Connections

2002-02-13 Thread Bosky, Dave

When using WK2,  MS-SQL 7, and CF5 what's the performance difference in
having
Maintain Database Connections -(Check this box to maintain connections to
data sources across client requests.)
Checked in cf datasources?
 
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RE: database connections

2001-09-17 Thread Jones, Becky

it does.  i can connect to all the databases alone just fine.  it is when i
try to join them is where i get the error.  

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Check to make sure the Cold Fusion service account has access to the SQL
database.  Or maybe use the User and Password attributes of the CFQuery tag.

Good luck.

Shawn Grover

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jones, Becky 
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> 
> i have a complex problem.  i basically have 3 databases.  one access, one
> sql 6.5 and one sql 7.0.
> i do most of my connecting and querying in the access database.  my
> problem is that i wrote a query in access that is using linked tables to
> the sql6.5 database and also to the 7.0.
> my query runs perfectly inside my access database...no errors.
> but in cf when i try to run this query using: 
>   ''''this ITDATA is my access
> datasource'''
>   SELECT * FROM qryWO
> 
> i get an error that says:
> ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) 
> [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] ODBC--connection to 'SQL
> ServerBALTMGMT01' failed. 
> The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
> of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (10:2) to (10:45) in the
> template file C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\HELPDESK\FRMOPENWO.CFM.
> the error seems to be in connecting to the sql7.0 dbase. 
> has anyone run into this problem before?  is there an easier way to do a
> connection to tables from 2 seperate databases???
> thanks for your help.
> bec.
> 
> 
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RE: database connections

2001-09-17 Thread Shawn Grover

Check to make sure the Cold Fusion service account has access to the SQL
database.  Or maybe use the User and Password attributes of the CFQuery tag.

Good luck.

Shawn Grover

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> Subject:  database connections
> 
> i have a complex problem.  i basically have 3 databases.  one access, one
> sql 6.5 and one sql 7.0.
> i do most of my connecting and querying in the access database.  my
> problem is that i wrote a query in access that is using linked tables to
> the sql6.5 database and also to the 7.0.
> my query runs perfectly inside my access database...no errors.
> but in cf when i try to run this query using: 
>   ''''this ITDATA is my access
> datasource'''
>   SELECT * FROM qryWO
> 
> i get an error that says:
> ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) 
> [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] ODBC--connection to 'SQL
> ServerBALTMGMT01' failed. 
> The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
> of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (10:2) to (10:45) in the
> template file C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\HELPDESK\FRMOPENWO.CFM.
> the error seems to be in connecting to the sql7.0 dbase. 
> has anyone run into this problem before?  is there an easier way to do a
> connection to tables from 2 seperate databases???
> thanks for your help.
> bec.
> 
> 
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database connections

2001-09-17 Thread Jones, Becky

> -Original Message-
> From: Jones, Becky 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:19 AM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  database connections
> 
> i have a complex problem.  i basically have 3 databases.  one access, one
> sql 6.5 and one sql 7.0.
> i do most of my connecting and querying in the access database.  my
> problem is that i wrote a query in access that is using linked tables to
> the sql6.5 database and also to the 7.0.
> my query runs perfectly inside my access database...no errors.
> but in cf when i try to run this query using: 
>   ''''this ITDATA is my access
> datasource'''
>   SELECT * FROM qryWO
> 
> i get an error that says:
> ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) 
> [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] ODBC--connection to 'SQL
> ServerBALTMGMT01' failed. 
> The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
> of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (10:2) to (10:45) in the
> template file C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\HELPDESK\FRMOPENWO.CFM.
> the error seems to be in connecting to the sql7.0 dbase. 
> has anyone run into this problem before?  is there an easier way to do a
> connection to tables from 2 seperate databases???
> thanks for your help.
> bec.
> 
> 
> 
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database connections

2001-09-17 Thread Jones, Becky

i have a complex problem.  i basically have 3 databases.  one access, one
sql 6.5 and one sql 7.0.
i do most of my connecting and querying in the access database.  my problem
is that i wrote a query in access that is using linked tables to the sql6.5
database and also to the 7.0.
my query runs perfectly inside my access database...no errors.
but in cf when i try to run this query using: 
  this ITDATA is my access
datasource'''
SELECT * FROM qryWO

i get an error that says:
ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) 
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] ODBC--connection to 'SQL
ServerBALTMGMT01' failed. 
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (10:2) to (10:45) in the template
file C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\HELPDESK\FRMOPENWO.CFM.
the error seems to be in connecting to the sql7.0 dbase. 
has anyone run into this problem before?  is there an easier way to do a
connection to tables from 2 seperate databases???
thanks for your help.
bec.



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RE: database connections in Studio

2001-08-24 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> I can't find any reference to CF Studio 5 at the
> Macromedia web site.  Did you confuse this with
> UltraDev Studio?

Same thing.

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RE: database connections in Studio

2001-08-24 Thread Tim

> Get the Studio 5 beta 2. Much, *much* better than
4.5...

I can't find any reference to CF Studio 5 at the
Macromedia web site.  Did you confuse this with
UltraDev Studio?
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RE: database connections in Studio

2001-08-23 Thread Jeffry Houser


At 02:07 AM 08/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > reads "access violation at address 00617D40 in module
> > 'cfstudio45.exe'. read of address ." It then
>
>Get the Studio 5 beta 2. Much, *much* better than 4.5...

  It is more stable, I'll give it that.



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RE: database connections in Studio

2001-08-23 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> reads "access violation at address 00617D40 in module
> 'cfstudio45.exe'. read of address ." It then

Get the Studio 5 beta 2. Much, *much* better than 4.5...

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database connections in Studio

2001-08-22 Thread Tim

I used to not have these problems, and it seems like
they just started occuring since I added the upgrade
to version 4.5.2 from CF Server 5.0.

When I select the database tab in the Resources
section of Studio's window and try to expand the
tables of an access database, I get an error that
reads "access violation at address 00617D40 in module
'cfstudio45.exe'. read of address ." It then
just sits there and say "retrieving tables", but never
does anything.

Also, I have a remote SQL server, and when I try to
connect to that, nothing happens at all.  Once in a
while I get an error that reads "unknown internal
error in RDS proxy.  Enable logging if possible".

All these daabases are entered in as ODBC datasources
and DO verify via CF Administrator. My CF pages that
query these databases also do work. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. 

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Another Question About Database Connections Using Oracle

2001-05-18 Thread Debbie McDaniel

Here I go again...

Where can I find specific information on how CF connects to an Oracle DB
using Native Drivers?

In the CF Administrator, under data sources, Native Drivers, what happens
when I select the option "Maintain Database Connections". Does this mean
that only one connection per client is made when accessing an application?
If I deselect this box, will multiple sessions be opened each time a query
is executed on a page during a user's session?

Obviously, I'm lost. But I know among this group there has got to be an
Oracle guru.

Thanks Again,

Debbie

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Re: Lost ODBC Database Connections

2000-08-29 Thread Mary_Baotic



Are you using the same userid and passwords from the ODBC32 control panel and
the cold fusion administrator?  It's probably and id and password failure.

Mary


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1. My NT/IIS DSNs all check out fine in the ODBC32 Control Panel.  TEST
COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY!
2. The same DSNs in the ColdFusion Administrator (where every one of
these was built from) have stopped working.  Failed.

Any clues?
Thanks.
/mdeane
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RE: Lost ODBC Database Connections

2000-08-29 Thread Dave Watts

> 1. My NT/IIS DSNs all check out fine in the ODBC32 Control 
> Panel.  TEST COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY!
> 2. The same DSNs in the ColdFusion Administrator (where every one of
> these was built from) have stopped working.  Failed.

This can happen if you use different authentication info in the ODBC Control
Panel than you do in the CF Administrator. Check whether or not you're using
trusted connections in both, and that you're using the same username and
password in both.

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Lost ODBC Database Connections

2000-08-29 Thread Mike Deane

1. My NT/IIS DSNs all check out fine in the ODBC32 Control Panel.  TEST
COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY!
2. The same DSNs in the ColdFusion Administrator (where every one of
these was built from) have stopped working.  Failed.

Any clues?
Thanks.
/mdeane
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Re: Force database connections to close....

2000-07-13 Thread Greg Saunders

Or, as pointed out to me on this list, you can also try:

CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH();

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At 11:58 AM 7/11/00 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
>> release memory as data is dumped to the client..???
>>
>> some like connection.close()
>>
>> This would really be a powerful feature to have...
>>
>
>If you do a CFQUERY to a table that doesn't exist, the database connection
>closes. Don't know if that helps.
>
>
>Rob Keniger
>
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RE: Force database connections to close....

2000-07-11 Thread Steve Bernard

The default behavior of ODBC connections created through CF Admin is to keep
connections open. This is done to avoid the overhead of repeatedly opening
and closing the connection on a per call basis. When this option is turned
off, via the checkbox in the connection configuration, a new connection is
opened and then closed for every call to a DSN. This is less efficient but,
can be useful when a particular DSN is used infrequently or to avoid locking
problems with file based dbs, like Access. This can be helpful in
development environments. In situations where you have a template or app
that is called infrequently but uses a large number of connections you may
want the best of both worlds, i.e. a persistent connection for the life of
the template/app/session that drops when finished. A possibility is to see
if the call that CF Admin makes to clear all connections can be tailored to
only drop an individual connection. You could then leave your connections in
persistent mode and drop them on demand :)

Steve


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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:25:38 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Force database connections to close
>
>
> Hello all,
> It looks like CF doesnt like to release the
> data brought down, which hogs up on the memory.
>
> Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
> release memory as data is dumped to the client..???
>
> some like connection.close()
>
> This would really be a powerful feature to have...
>
> Any ideas
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
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Re: Force database connections to close....

2000-07-10 Thread rkeniger




> Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
> release memory as data is dumped to the client..???
>
> some like connection.close()
>
> This would really be a powerful feature to have...
>

If you do a CFQUERY to a table that doesn't exist, the database connection
closes. Don't know if that helps.


Rob Keniger


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Re: Force database connections to close....

2000-07-10 Thread Joseph Eugene


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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:25 PM
Subject: Force database connections to close


>
> Hello all,
>   It looks like CF doesnt like to release the
> data brought down, which hogs up on the memory.
>
> Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
> release memory as data is dumped to the client..???
>
> some like connection.close()
>
> This would really be a powerful feature to have...
>
> Any ideas
>
> Thanks
> Joe
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Re: Force database connections to close....

2000-07-10 Thread Nick Slay

Hi Joe, 

Can't this be controlled from the CF Administrator on a per ODBC connection
level?  If you look at the ODBC connections, there is an option to keep the
connections open for that data source.  I normally leave this as on, but I
assume that unchecking that option would not keep the connections open and
effectively do what you are asking?

Hope this helps

Nick



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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:25:38 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Force database connections to close
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> It looks like CF doesnt like to release the
> data brought down, which hogs up on the memory.
> 
> Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
> release memory as data is dumped to the client..???
> 
> some like connection.close()
> 
> This would really be a powerful feature to have...
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Thanks
> Joe
> 
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Force database connections to close....

2000-07-10 Thread joeug


Hello all,
  It looks like CF doesnt like to release the
data brought down, which hogs up on the memory.

Is there a way to force the database connection to close or to
release memory as data is dumped to the client..???

some like connection.close()

This would really be a powerful feature to have...

Any ideas

Thanks
Joe

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RE: Simultaneous database connections to MS Access

2000-04-02 Thread Dave Watts

> Also, if a query is cached, does it make a connection to the DB at 
> all, or is it totally in RAM?

Queries cached by CF are stored in memory on the CF server.

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Re: Simultaneous database connections to MS Access

2000-04-01 Thread David Hannum

FWIW - Access 2000 CLAIMS to be able to handle 255 concurrent users.  (yea,
right!).  But if queries is all you're doing, not a bunch of input and
update stuff, then you should be fine.

Dave

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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 10:09 PM
Subject: Simultaneous database connections to MS Access


> Hi. I know Access is supposed to break down if hit with too many
> requests at once. Using Access 2000, what would be a good number to
> limit the simultaneous connections to the database? I've been setting
> them at 5. I don't expect there's going to major traffic at any of
> the sites. A couple GB a month or so. If there are 10-20 people on
> the site at once, since most queries are going to run in way under a
> second, there shouldn't be but a second or 2 delay at the most, eh?
>
> Also, if a query is cached, does it make a connection to the DB at
> all, or is it totally in RAM?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Simultaneous database connections to MS Access

2000-04-01 Thread Bud

Hi. I know Access is supposed to break down if hit with too many 
requests at once. Using Access 2000, what would be a good number to 
limit the simultaneous connections to the database? I've been setting 
them at 5. I don't expect there's going to major traffic at any of 
the sites. A couple GB a month or so. If there are 10-20 people on 
the site at once, since most queries are going to run in way under a 
second, there shouldn't be but a second or 2 delay at the most, eh?

Also, if a query is cached, does it make a connection to the DB at 
all, or is it totally in RAM?

Thanks.

Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

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