free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Kodjo Ackah]

Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX
 
Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
 
Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
 

-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Carlisle, Eric]

Are you asking for servers or clients? 
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body) 
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX
 
Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
 
Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
 

-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Howie Hamlin]

There's a free version of Eudora as well.  www.eudora.com.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kodjo Ackah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:28 AM
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> 
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>  
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>  
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> 
> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
> that still times out, then
> cut it to 50K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> http://www.ordb.org
> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> http://www.dwhite.ws
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> 
> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
> (say 2.7 million, not the
> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
> Timeout errors.  Is there
> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
> that the database won't time
> out?  Thanks!
> |
> | Gregory Harris
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | 
> 
> 
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[jon hall]

I'm partial to telnet...

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Monday, October 14, 2002, 10:28:35 AM, you wrote:
KA> Hi,
KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
KA> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Kodjo Ackah]

My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
Now we need to manage these accounts.
So what do you suggest?
I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX
 
Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
 
Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
 

-Original Message-
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Are you asking for servers or clients? 
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body) 
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX
 
Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
 
Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
 

-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 



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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Alex]

outlook,pine,mutt
check on google.com
write your own in CF

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:

> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
>
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
>
> deleting that many records will take a long time.
>
> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
> that still times out, then
> cut it to 50K
>
>
>
> 
> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> http://www.ordb.org
> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> http://www.dwhite.ws
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
>
>
> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
> (say 2.7 million, not the
> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
> Timeout errors.  Is there
> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
> that the database won't time
> out?  Thanks!
> |
> | Gregory Harris
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |
>
> 
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Paris Lundis]

Just use the Outlook Express... many people do...

Eudora is a suitable package at a great price


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-Original Message-
From: "Kodjo Ackah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:47:21 +0100
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
> This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
> I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
> Now we need to manage these accounts.
> So what do you suggest?
> I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.
> 
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>  
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>  
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> Are you asking for servers or clients? 
> (you asked for server in the subject, client in the body) 
> :-)
> 
> I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
> http://www.eudora.com
> 
> Can't speak to the security, though.
> 
> ETC
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and
> if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> 
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>  
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>  
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> 
> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time.
> if
> that still times out, then
> cut it to 50K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> http://www.ordb.org
> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> http://www.dwhite.ws
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> 
> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
> (say 2.7 million, not the
> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
> Timeout errors.  Is there
> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
> that the database won't time
> out?  Thanks!
> |
> | Gregory Harris
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Carlisle, Eric]

There's one in every croud. ;-)
I was gonna mention pine, but resisted.

-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


I'm partial to telnet...

-- 
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, October 14, 2002, 10:28:35 AM, you wrote:
KA> Hi,
KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
KA> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.


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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Len Conrad]

>My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.

http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/imail.html

Gives you RFC-compatible SMTP, POP, LDAP, IMAP, and Webmail servers.  Their 
press releases claim 50 million licenses sold.

But will not give any of the proprietary Exchange groupware.

Len


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I knew you
could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...

http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/

hth

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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> On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:

>> Hi,
>> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
>> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
>> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
>>
>> Kodjo Ackah
>> Principal Consultant
>> Concrete Media Ltd
>> 32 Great Sutton Street
>> Clerkenwell
>> London, EC1V 0DX
>>
>> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
>> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
>> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>>
>> Office Location:
>> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
>>
>> deleting that many records will take a long time.
>>
>> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
>> that still times out, then
>> cut it to 50K
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
>> http://www.ordb.org
>> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
>> http://www.dwhite.ws
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
>> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
>>
>>
>> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
>> (say 2.7 million, not the
>> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
>> Timeout errors.  Is there
>> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
>> that the database won't time
>> out?  Thanks!
>> |
>> | Gregory Harris
>> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> |
>>
>>
> 
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Lee - pretty reasonable price.  How secure is it?

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


>My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.

http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/imail.html

Gives you RFC-compatible SMTP, POP, LDAP, IMAP, and Webmail servers.  Their
press releases claim 50 million licenses sold.

But will not give any of the proprietary Exchange groupware.

Len



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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

  Eudora has a free version (With Ads ).

At 03:28 PM 10/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
>possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
>At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.





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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Paris Lundis]

Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???

We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade... 


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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:13:17 -0400
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I knew
> you
> could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...
> 
> http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/
> 
> hth
> 
> S. Isaac Dealey
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> 
> www.turnkey.to
> 954-776-0046
> 
> > outlook,pine,mutt
> > check on google.com
> > write your own in CF
> 
> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> 
> >> Hi,
> >> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients - 
> and if
> >> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> >> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> >>
> >> Kodjo Ackah
> >> Principal Consultant
> >> Concrete Media Ltd
> >> 32 Great Sutton Street
> >> Clerkenwell
> >> London, EC1V 0DX
> >>
> >> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> >> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> >> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
> >>
> >> Office Location:
> >>
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> >>
> >> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> >>
> >> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a
> time. if
> >> that still times out, then
> >> cut it to 50K
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> >> http://www.ordb.org
> >> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> >> http://www.dwhite.ws
> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> >> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
> >>
> >>
> >> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of
> records
> >> (say 2.7 million, not the
> >> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I
> get
> >> Timeout errors.  Is there
> >> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query
> so
> >> that the database won't time
> >> out?  Thanks!
> >> |
> >> | Gregory Harris
> >> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Carlisle, Eric]

I used to admin an Imail server (version 3-4).
The only security caveat I remember was that in v3, all the account info was
stored in the registry (including passwords).  The passwords were encrypted
-- just not very well (I had to actually use the security flaw to migrate to
a later version :).  In subsequent versions, you could use an ODBC
datasource to store account info (which is pretty cool - I used SQL Server).

That registry doodad probably doesn't apply to whatever the most recent
version is, but it's cool that you can use an external datasource to store
account data -- helps in integrating your mail server with other
applications.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Lee - pretty reasonable price.  How secure is it?

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


>My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.

http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/imail.html

Gives you RFC-compatible SMTP, POP, LDAP, IMAP, and Webmail servers.  Their
press releases claim 50 million licenses sold.

But will not give any of the proprietary Exchange groupware.

Len




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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[jremus-lists]

Ok - just my two cents.  If you've got email addresses from the ISP, you
don't need a server (like exchange), only the client.  And if you have
outlook 2000, you're all set.  The ISP would be the one to manage these
accounts if they're through them.  Most ISPs have a cute web-interface for
management of these, but all you need to do on the client end is set outlook
up to point to their POP3 and SMTP servers, and you're all set.

If you do need a server, and are willing (or your client is) to spend a
little time setting things up, there are a number of UNIX/LINUX based mail
servers (I'm partial to exim) that are free, and will run on minimal
hardware.  If you need an NT/2k solution, that's a different question.

But from your message below, it doesn't sound like you need server software
at all.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
Now we need to manage these accounts.
So what do you suggest?
I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Are you asking for servers or clients?
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|




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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

  Just so I understand.

  Telnet is a protocol and Pine is the mail reader program, correct?


At 11:10 AM 10/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>There's one in every croud. ;-)
>I was gonna mention pine, but resisted.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:48 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
>
>
>I'm partial to telnet...
>
>--
>  jon
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Monday, October 14, 2002, 10:28:35 AM, you wrote:
>KA> Hi,
>KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
>KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
>KA> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
>
>
>
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

  If your ISP gave him 40 E-mail addresses, usually the ISP will also give 
some kind of mail control panel to maintain the addresses.
  To send / receive E-mail you can use Outlook 200 or any other mail client 
of your choosing, as long as it supports the protocols your ISP provides 
(POP3 and SMTP are the Internet Standards).

At 03:47 PM 10/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
>This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
>I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
>Now we need to manage these accounts.
>So what do you suggest?
>I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.



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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Dave Wilson]

I think the querant is concerned about directing the emails to their
respective targets upon collection from the isp. Whilst this used to be a
lot more commonplace in the past by using Exchange to collect all mails for
an organisation at specified times during the day and redistributing the
mails to their respective targets. This was all in the days of low
bandwidth.

Nowadays, most offices have a shared internet connection of some
description. If this is the case, then all is needed is a mail client
(Outlook, Eudora, pine, etc) on each machine, configured to collect mail
directly from the relevant account on the isp's server.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 16:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Ok - just my two cents.  If you've got email addresses from the ISP, you
don't need a server (like exchange), only the client.  And if you have
outlook 2000, you're all set.  The ISP would be the one to manage these
accounts if they're through them.  Most ISPs have a cute web-interface for
management of these, but all you need to do on the client end is set outlook
up to point to their POP3 and SMTP servers, and you're all set.

If you do need a server, and are willing (or your client is) to spend a
little time setting things up, there are a number of UNIX/LINUX based mail
servers (I'm partial to exim) that are free, and will run on minimal
hardware.  If you need an NT/2k solution, that's a different question.

But from your message below, it doesn't sound like you need server software
at all.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
Now we need to manage these accounts.
So what do you suggest?
I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Are you asking for servers or clients?
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|





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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Stephen Moretti]

>   Just so I understand.
>
>   Telnet is a protocol and Pine is the mail reader program, correct?
>
Yep

Telnet is a part of TCP/IP and Pine is a mail reader for Unix/Linux that's
been around almost as long as the ark!

Stephen


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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Kodjo Ackah]

You are right!
But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
to.
Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
Do you see what I mean?

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX
 
Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
 
Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 October 2002 16:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Ok - just my two cents.  If you've got email addresses from the ISP, you
don't need a server (like exchange), only the client.  And if you have
outlook 2000, you're all set.  The ISP would be the one to manage these
accounts if they're through them.  Most ISPs have a cute web-interface
for
management of these, but all you need to do on the client end is set
outlook
up to point to their POP3 and SMTP servers, and you're all set.

If you do need a server, and are willing (or your client is) to spend a
little time setting things up, there are a number of UNIX/LINUX based
mail
servers (I'm partial to exim) that are free, and will run on minimal
hardware.  If you need an NT/2k solution, that's a different question.

But from your message below, it doesn't sound like you need server
software
at all.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
Now we need to manage these accounts.
So what do you suggest?
I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Are you asking for servers or clients?
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




This address is filtered through the open relay database at
http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
http://www.dwhite.ws
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


| Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
(say 2.7 million, not the
entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
Timeout errors.  Is there
anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
that the database won't time
out?  Thanks!
|
| Gregory Harris
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|





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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Chris Montgomery]

Howdy Kodjo,

Monday, October 14, 2002, 9:28:35 AM, Kodjo Ackah wrote:

KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.

I've heard that PostCast Server is good, although I haven't had any
experience with it:
http://www.postcastserver.com/

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Hugo Ahlenius]

That is what the IMAP protocol is for, use that instead of POP3 (make sure
the MUA/client supports that -- which most do). Or try using a web-based
IMAP client, like squirrel-mail on the web-server.





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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Thomas Chiverton]

> You are right!
> But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
> to.
> Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
> Do you see what I mean?

Yeah, you want web mail or something...

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[jremus-lists]

That's a whole different issue!  We run a simple POP3 server here, and we
set up quasi-roaming profiles so that the post office file follows you
whichever machine you log in to.  It's important to have your PST on a
network drive anyway, just for backup purposes.  But that does start to get
complicated.  So basically:

1. Users have an H: drive, which is their personal space on a server.
2. H: drive is mapped automatically wherever the user may log on.
3. Users have a post office file (pst) in H:\mail.
4. You set up Outlook to point to that PST file.

Full roaming profiles might be the easiest way to do this, but we had
reasons not to go that direction.  But I have worked in such environments.
That way, all their settings (including outlook) come along with them.

Is this making it better or worse? ;)

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


You are right!
But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
to.
Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
Do you see what I mean?

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 16:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Ok - just my two cents.  If you've got email addresses from the ISP, you
don't need a server (like exchange), only the client.  And if you have
outlook 2000, you're all set.  The ISP would be the one to manage these
accounts if they're through them.  Most ISPs have a cute web-interface
for
management of these, but all you need to do on the client end is set
outlook
up to point to their POP3 and SMTP servers, and you're all set.

If you do need a server, and are willing (or your client is) to spend a
little time setting things up, there are a number of UNIX/LINUX based
mail
servers (I'm partial to exim) that are free, and will run on minimal
hardware.  If you need an NT/2k solution, that's a different question.

But from your message below, it doesn't sound like you need server
software
at all.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
Now we need to manage these accounts.
So what do you suggest?
I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

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-Original Message-
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

Are you asking for servers or clients?
(you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
:-)

I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
http://www.eudora.com

Can't speak to the security, though.

ETC


-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


Hi,
Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

Kodjo Ackah
Principal Consultant
Concrete Media Ltd
32 Great Sutton Street
Clerkenwell
London, EC1V 0DX

Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

Office Location:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

deleting that many records will take a long time.

Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
that still times out, then
cut it to 50K




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http://www.ordb.org
and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROT

RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Dave Wilson]

>But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
>to.
>Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
>Do you see what I mean?

This requires behaviour similar to that of Exchange then. Storing all
messages in a central repository.

There is a dirty hack I can think of which may or may not work as desired.
Basically you could have all clients using outlook express. Set up a
dedicated (permanent) network share on a file server. Then on each client
you'll need to configure outlook express to store its mail files on the
network share.

I'm sure you could set up a login script for your network to automatically
carry the outlook express settings from machine to machine based upon
network login.

Like I say. This is a dirty hack and there are no guarantees that it would
work. However, in theory it should provide the functionality you describe.

Dave

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Len Conrad]

>Lee - pretty reasonable price.  How secure is it?

APOP and webmail over SSL are available.

or are you talking about vulnerabilities?

Len


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

It's being used by my hosting provider -- which is where my email is hosted.
I haven't had any significant problems with it... I think we had a hiccup or
2 just after we installed it, but we cleared it all up and it's been working
fine for several months. ArgoSoft is a one-man company and so he says in the
FAQ on his site that he doesn't provide phone support, but I'm of the
impression that his email support is fairly decent. Granted, this means that
in many cases you might have to send and receive support email from another
address. ;P But if worse comes to worse, a Yahoo mail account should work as
a backup to get the server working. And there's a free version of ArgoSoft,
so you can upgrade to the terribly inexpensive plus ( $50 ) or Pro ( $88 )
versions later if needed.

How is your client hosted? Is it a shared server? If so I'd be surprised if
the hosting company would install a separate mail server for them, though I
could be surprised. ;P

> Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???

> We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade...


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> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:13:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

>> I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I knew
>> you
>> could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...
>>
>> http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/
>>
>> hth
>>
>> S. Isaac Dealey
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>>
>> www.turnkey.to
>> 954-776-0046
>>
>> > outlook,pine,mutt
>> > check on google.com
>> > write your own in CF
>>
>> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
>>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -
>> and if
>> >> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
>> >> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
>> >>
>> >> Kodjo Ackah
>> >> Principal Consultant
>> >> Concrete Media Ltd
>> >> 32 Great Sutton Street
>> >> Clerkenwell
>> >> London, EC1V 0DX
>> >>
>> >> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
>> >> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
>> >> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>> >>
>> >> Office Location:
>> >>
>> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
>> 1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
>> >> To: CF-Talk
>> >> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
>> >>
>> >> deleting that many records will take a long time.
>> >>
>> >> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a
>> time. if
>> >> that still times out, then
>> >> cut it to 50K
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
>> >> http://www.ordb.org
>> >> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
>> >> http://www.dwhite.ws
>> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> 
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
>> >> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of
>> records
>> >> (say 2.7 million, not the
>> >> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I
>> get
>> >> Timeout errors.  Is there
>> >> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query
>> so
>> >> that the database won't time
>> >> out?  Thanks!
>> >> |
>> >> | Gregory Harris
>> >> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Len Conrad]

>You are right!
>But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
>to.
>Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
>Do you see what I mean?

using a browser to access a mailbox gives you portability, and doing it 
over SSL gives you security.

Imail's sub-$400 product does that for up to 25 users.

trim your messages.

Len



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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Speaking of which -- and getting back to CF -- there's a cf_imail
tag/application designed to help cf developers maintain an imail server.
It's in use by a local consulting company I've been doing some work for
recently. I believe it's on the devex. Search devex.macromedia.com for
"imail" ... I think the larger issue with iMail in your case is likely to be
that the server is a few thousand $ iirc.

> I used to admin an Imail server (version 3-4).
> The only security caveat I remember was that in v3, all the account info
> was
> stored in the registry (including passwords).  The passwords were
> encrypted
> -- just not very well (I had to actually use the security flaw to migrate
> to
> a later version :).  In subsequent versions, you could use an ODBC
> datasource to store account info (which is pretty cool - I used SQL
> Server).

> That registry doodad probably doesn't apply to whatever the most recent
> version is, but it's cool that you can use an external datasource to store
> account data -- helps in integrating your mail server with other
> applications.

> ETC


> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:25 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> Lee - pretty reasonable price.  How secure is it?

> -mk

> -Original Message-
> From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


>>My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.

> http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/imail.html

> Gives you RFC-compatible SMTP, POP, LDAP, IMAP, and Webmail servers.
> Their
> press releases claim 50 million licenses sold.

> But will not give any of the proprietary Exchange groupware.

> Len




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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

  That is what I thought.
  But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there 
mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the 
server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).  I've 
never used Pine, but everyone I know who has speaks worlds of it.

  I haven't used telnet in years either.

At 04:43 PM 10/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> >   Just so I understand.
> >
> >   Telnet is a protocol and Pine is the mail reader program, correct?
> >
>Yep
>
>Telnet is a part of TCP/IP and Pine is a mail reader for Unix/Linux that's
>been around almost as long as the ark!
>
>Stephen
>
>
>
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 09:12 US/Pacific, Jeffry Houser wrote:
>   But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there
> mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the
> server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).

Nope, you can telnet to port 110 and as long as you speak POP3 you can 
read mail with telnet. I do it quite often.

"SOAP is not so much a means of transmitting data
  but a mechanism for calling COM objects over the Web."
-- not Microsoft (surprisingly!)

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Ahh... that's a bit more complicated... iirc Outlook will do this sort of
thing if it's properly configured, but I don't remember it being a terribly
graceful thing -- it requires each user to change a setting in the options
when they sit down.

Using akmail or probably the Bat ( looks a lot like akmail ) or SecureBat
you could probably configure all accounts for each employee on each client
machine and set them all to leave mail on the server ... It wouldn't work (
at least not well ) for a company with more than about a dozen employees
tho, and it wouldn't prevent any given employee from reading other
employees' email at will.

Even if that privacy isn't an issue internally, it's also a sticky issue
with defining when you remove mail from the server because if the client on
their usual workstation does it, they'll go to another machine and expect
email to be there and it won't because it's already been downloaded and
removed from the server by their own workstation. Iirc akmail ( at least the
current english version ) only deletes the local copy when you hit delete on
a given message...

I'd say Outlook is probably your best bet -- although Outlook security imho
is garbage. It lays open the entire VBA to macros, you can't disable html,
etc, etc. the MS Address Book and html email viewer are the primary means by
which recent virii like Klez get circulated.


hth

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046


> You are right!
> But my users want their profile to appear on each machine they log on
> to.
> Thus all their emails, sent items, etc...
> Do you see what I mean?

> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX

> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 October 2002 16:23
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> Ok - just my two cents.  If you've got email addresses from the ISP, you
> don't need a server (like exchange), only the client.  And if you have
> outlook 2000, you're all set.  The ISP would be the one to manage these
> accounts if they're through them.  Most ISPs have a cute web-interface
> for
> management of these, but all you need to do on the client end is set
> outlook
> up to point to their POP3 and SMTP servers, and you're all set.

> If you do need a server, and are willing (or your client is) to spend a
> little time setting things up, there are a number of UNIX/LINUX based
> mail
> servers (I'm partial to exim) that are free, and will run on minimal
> hardware.  If you need an NT/2k solution, that's a different question.

> But from your message below, it doesn't sound like you need server
> software
> at all.

> Josh

> -Original Message-
> From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
> This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
> I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
> Now we need to manage these accounts.
> So what do you suggest?
> I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX

> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=1


> -Original Message-
> From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> Are you asking for servers or clients?
> (you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
> :-)

> I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
> http://www.eudora.com

> Can't speak to the security, though.

> ETC


> -Original Message-
> From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

> Kodjo Ackah
> Pri

Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Paris Lundis]

Yeah we handle all the hosting needs for our clients.. we have an older 
version of Mdaemon running.. Frankly, the cost of most servers is a bit 
daunting at first...  Large one time expenses.. 

So we are looking figuratively to distribute the client activity... 
Considering loads of alternative solutions including *nix based email 
services...   

Really, we have volume issues I would say, enough business related 
broadcast emails.. business to business use.. which can be some heavy 
lifting...

Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
412-292-3135
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[connecting people, places and things]


-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:58:50 -0400
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> It's being used by my hosting provider -- which is where my email is
> hosted.
> I haven't had any significant problems with it... I think we had a
> hiccup or
> 2 just after we installed it, but we cleared it all up and it's been
> working
> fine for several months. ArgoSoft is a one-man company and so he says
> in the
> FAQ on his site that he doesn't provide phone support, but I'm of the
> impression that his email support is fairly decent. Granted, this
> means that
> in many cases you might have to send and receive support email from
> another
> address. ;P But if worse comes to worse, a Yahoo mail account should
> work as
> a backup to get the server working. And there's a free version of
> ArgoSoft,
> so you can upgrade to the terribly inexpensive plus ( $50 ) or Pro (
> $88 )
> versions later if needed.
> 
> How is your client hosted? Is it a shared server? If so I'd be
> surprised if
> the hosting company would install a separate mail server for them,
> though I
> could be surprised. ;P
> 
> > Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???
> 
> > We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade...
> 
> 
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:13:17 -0400
> > Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> >> I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I
> knew
> >> you
> >> could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...
> >>
> >> http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/
> >>
> >> hth
> >>
> >> S. Isaac Dealey
> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> >>
> >> www.turnkey.to
> >> 954-776-0046
> >>
> >> > outlook,pine,mutt
> >> > check on google.com
> >> > write your own in CF
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -
> >> and if
> >> >> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> >> >> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kodjo Ackah
> >> >> Principal Consultant
> >> >> Concrete Media Ltd
> >> >> 32 Great Sutton Street
> >> >> Clerkenwell
> >> >> London, EC1V 0DX
> >> >>
> >> >> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> >> >> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> >> >> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
> >> >>
> >> >> Office Location:
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> >> 1
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> >> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> >> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> >> >>
> >> >> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a
> >> time. if
> >> >> that still times out, then
> >> >> cut it to 50K
> >> >>
> >> &g

Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Paris Lundis]

I have Postcast running here on a Win2k box... It's unreliable in my 
opinon... it often hangs... and I can't say it dumps bad emails like it 
is supposed to... 

But then again, we do regular emailings... so I need to turn down the 
limits and see if it does better...

PostCast is worth looking at, since it is free...


Paris Lundis
Founder
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http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
412-292-3135
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[connecting people, places and things]


-Original Message-
From: Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:46:48 -0500
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> Howdy Kodjo,
> 
> Monday, October 14, 2002, 9:28:35 AM, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> 
> KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients - 
> and if
> KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> 
> I've heard that PostCast Server is good, although I haven't had any
> experience with it:
> http://www.postcastserver.com/
> 
> Chris Montgomerymonty @ airtightweb.com 
> 
> -- 
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> 210-490-3249/888-745-7603
> 
> 
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Stephen Moretti]

Heh heh

>   That is what I thought.
>   But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there
> mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the
> server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).
>
Well, in theory you can telnet direct to a mail server and use your account
details to log in, then you give the mail server commands to display your
email.   Its a total pain to do, but vaguely remember many years ago messing
on with a mail server like that.  Its very sad and geeky to do that kind of
thing though!  True propeller head type thing that! :o)


> I've  never used Pine, but everyone I know who has speaks worlds of it.
>
~shrug~ Its just a text based email client for Linux, nowt special.

>   I haven't used telnet in years either.
>
We have some Cobalt RAQs these days, so I'm back to using putty to get a
secure telnet connection to the server and mess on on the box, but until
recently, I'd almost forgotten telnet and unix

Hmmm... I seem to "mess on" a lot  Note to self : stop messing and get
on with some work. ;o)

Stephen


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

At 09:25 AM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 09:12 US/Pacific, Jeffry Houser wrote:
> >   But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there
> > mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the
> > server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).
>
>Nope, you can telnet to port 110 and as long as you speak POP3 you can
>read mail with telnet. I do it quite often.

  I didn't know that.  Very interesting.  I remember telnetting into my 
school's VAX machine many years ago.  I remember a lot of discussion boards 
throughout the Internet, but the web has moved them all away from telnet.


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Ahh... I unfortunately have no idea how ArgoSoft handles under heavy load...
I've not needed a lot of heavy lifting from the email server personally...

> Yeah we handle all the hosting needs for our clients.. we have an older
> version of Mdaemon running.. Frankly, the cost of most servers is a bit
> daunting at first...  Large one time expenses..

> So we are looking figuratively to distribute the client activity...
> Considering loads of alternative solutions including *nix based email
> services...

> Really, we have volume issues I would say, enough business related
> broadcast emails.. business to business use.. which can be some heavy
> lifting...

> Paris Lundis
> Founder
> Areaindex, L.L.C.
> http://www.areaindex.com
> http://www.pubcrawler.com
> 412-292-3135
> [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> [connecting people, places and things]


> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:58:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

>> It's being used by my hosting provider -- which is where my email is
>> hosted.
>> I haven't had any significant problems with it... I think we had a
>> hiccup or
>> 2 just after we installed it, but we cleared it all up and it's been
>> working
>> fine for several months. ArgoSoft is a one-man company and so he says
>> in the
>> FAQ on his site that he doesn't provide phone support, but I'm of the
>> impression that his email support is fairly decent. Granted, this
>> means that
>> in many cases you might have to send and receive support email from
>> another
>> address. ;P But if worse comes to worse, a Yahoo mail account should
>> work as
>> a backup to get the server working. And there's a free version of
>> ArgoSoft,
>> so you can upgrade to the terribly inexpensive plus ( $50 ) or Pro (
>> $88 )
>> versions later if needed.
>>
>> How is your client hosted? Is it a shared server? If so I'd be
>> surprised if
>> the hosting company would install a separate mail server for them,
>> though I
>> could be surprised. ;P
>>
>> > Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???
>>
>> > We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade...
>>


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Len Conrad]

>   I didn't know that.  Very interesting.  I remember telnetting into my
>school's VAX machine many years ago.  I remember a lot of discussion boards
>throughout the Internet, but the web has moved them all away from telnet.

smtp and pop and imap are text protocols.  DNS is binary

Len


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Jeffry Houser]

At 12:25 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >   I didn't know that.  Very interesting.  I remember telnetting into my
> >school's VAX machine many years ago.  I remember a lot of discussion boards
> >throughout the Internet, but the web has moved them all away from telnet.
>
>smtp and pop and imap are text protocols.  DNS is binary

  I'm not sure how that relates to my walk down memory lane.


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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[cf-talk]

Mark,

I caught this thread 1/2 way but thought I'd chime in.  I'm using iMail
server and am very happy with it.  It has a range of security features and
the user manual (downloadable in PDF format) is great.

My recommendation would be that you download the PDF file and read through
it a little but.  There's a whole chapter there on security.

-Novak

- Original Message -
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> Lee - pretty reasonable price.  How secure is it?
>
> -mk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
>
>
> >My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
>
> http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/imail.html
>
> Gives you RFC-compatible SMTP, POP, LDAP, IMAP, and Webmail servers.
Their
> press releases claim 50 million licenses sold.
>
> But will not give any of the proprietary Exchange groupware.
>
> Len
>
>
>
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[cf-talk]

They were joking. :-)

You CAN use telnet to check the mail though.  That's exactly what your mail
client does... telnets in to the mail server, issues commands to retrieve
the mail, and disconnects.

You can send and receive mail via telnet.  Just like you can use telnet to
request a web page. But it's not exactly practical... hence the joke. :-)

-Novak

- Original Message -
From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


>   That is what I thought.
>   But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there
> mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the
> server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).  I've
> never used Pine, but everyone I know who has speaks worlds of it.
>
>   I haven't used telnet in years either.
>
> At 04:43 PM 10/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> > >   Just so I understand.
> > >
> > >   Telnet is a protocol and Pine is the mail reader program, correct?
> > >
> >Yep
> >
> >Telnet is a part of TCP/IP and Pine is a mail reader for Unix/Linux
that's
> >been around almost as long as the ark!
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Eric Dawson]

but you can telnet into a mail server - or most? anyway.

I have had to telnet in to delete mail messages with large attachments in 
the past. Before the days of big bandwidth.

I never remember the syntax, and just do a quick search on google for telnet 
mail pop3 helo

to figure out how.

I used to use pine a bunch of years ago.

Eric


From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:12:55 -0400

   That is what I thought.
   But got confused when someone said they use telnet to check there
mail.  ( What they must have meant was they use telnet to get into the
server, and then use a server-side program to check there mail ).  I've
never used Pine, but everyone I know who has speaks worlds of it.

   I haven't used telnet in years either.

At 04:43 PM 10/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 > >   Just so I understand.
 > >
 > >   Telnet is a protocol and Pine is the mail reader program, correct?
 > >
 >Yep
 >
 >Telnet is a part of TCP/IP and Pine is a mail reader for Unix/Linux that's
 >been around almost as long as the ark!
 >
 >Stephen
 >
 >
 >

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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[Pete Freitag]

Anyone using JAMES (Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server)?

It's an open source project. It's pretty easy to connect to a JDBC
datasource to store mail with it. You can also write Mailets in Java that
allow you to do custom processing.

http://jakarta.apache.org/james/

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OT: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Ahh... yea, sounds like you're looking for a client...

I've been using a shareware client called AK-Mail for several years now and
have been very happy with it. I've had virii but not from email, just Code
Red because I was running IIS before the fix.

I picked up ak-mail at the time because it was the only email client I could
find that would handle multiple accounts gracefully, without having to dig
through 3-4 levels of pull-down menus and/or dialog boxes to switch between
accounts.

Ak puts them all in a single tree on the left -- very nice when you want to
manage multiple accounts simultanously, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for different purposes
without having to do a whole lot of setting up aliases on the server and
filtering incoming email into separate directories based on those aliases.

Plus its got really nice filters, address-book and list management, although
I haven't really used the latter in a long time -- i used the list features
a lot 5-6 years ago.

http://www.ak-mail.com

I've seen people on the list talk about The Bat but haven't gotten around to
really trying it out -- happy as I've been with what I've got.

http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/


hth

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> My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
> This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
> I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
> Now we need to manage these accounts.
> So what do you suggest?
> I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.

> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX

> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
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> -Original Message-
> From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> Are you asking for servers or clients?
> (you asked for server in the subject, client in the body)
> :-)

> I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
> http://www.eudora.com

> Can't speak to the security, though.

> ETC


> -Original Message-
> From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury


> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.

> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX

> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038

> Office Location:
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> -Original Message-
> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble

> deleting that many records will take a long time.

> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time. if
> that still times out, then
> cut it to 50K



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> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble


> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
> (say 2.7 million, not the
> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
> Timeout errors.  Is there
> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
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