Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Mark Mandel
Zac,

Big pat on the back for you for sticking through this, and seeing if the
problem can be resolved. Not many people would go as far as you, so kudos to
you!

Mark

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Zac Spitzer  wrote:

> back to the hanging problem, the good news is my swear jar just got richer,
> but I managed to capture a thread dump :) which I have sent thru to Sagar
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Brian Knott  wrote:
> > Got it thanks Charlie.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of charlie arehart
> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:13 AM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> >
> > Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for
> coldfusion
> > builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it,
> including
> > my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2
> so
> > worth a read for those who haven't seen it).
> >
> > Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
> > perhaps?
> >
> > /charlie
> >
> >
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> >> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> >>
> >> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Zac Spitzer
back to the hanging problem, the good news is my swear jar just got richer,
but I managed to capture a thread dump :) which I have sent thru to Sagar

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Brian Knott  wrote:
> Got it thanks Charlie.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of charlie arehart
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:13 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>
> Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for coldfusion
> builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it, including
> my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2 so
> worth a read for those who haven't seen it).
>
> Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
> perhaps?
>
> /charlie
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Knott
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 AM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>>
>> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Carl  wrote:
> I notice Java 7 is due for release at end of July. With java 7 you get
> the released version of UseG1GC garbage collector - rather than
> experimental option in java 6.

Yup. but I don't know how quickly (or even if) Adobe will certify
ColdFusion on Java 7...
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Carl
Hi Sean,

I notice Java 7 is due for release at end of July. With java 7 you get
the released version of UseG1GC garbage collector - rather than
experimental option in java 6.

Cheers, Carl.


>
> Yeah, on 32-bit Windows, 1.4GB is the most you can give it. I pretty
> much never run CF in production with less than a 2GB heap (usually 2GB
> min, 3GB max) but of course I don't use Windows in production. On
> 64-bit servers you can go higher but if you go beyond 4GB, you need to
> be very careful about the GC configuration you use... Even tho' it's
> only experimental in Java 6, if you use a large heap, the G1 collector
> is worth trying (but, as always, it's all about load testing / real
> live load and constantly tuning the GC configuration to get the best
> overall performance).
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Carl
Sorry Steve like to help but what is the problem when CF9 takes less
than half of what you allocated? Would seem to me not enough memory is
been taken or it simply does not need to grow memory wise up to the
maximum. Perhaps this is the issue - it is growing to less than half
of 1Gb and your getting out of memory errors?

On 32 bit you are close to right in saying you can only set the limit
to 1Gb total. In reality it is a bit more 1.3 - 1.4Gb depending on
some variables.

Cheers, Carl.

On Jul 13, 3:27 pm, "Steve Onnis"  wrote:
> 32 Bit WIN2003 4GB ram, 1GB assigned to CF as thats all i can give it
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> 32 Bit WIN2003 4GB ram, 1GB assigned to CF as thats all i can give it

Yeah, on 32-bit Windows, 1.4GB is the most you can give it. I pretty
much never run CF in production with less than a 2GB heap (usually 2GB
min, 3GB max) but of course I don't use Windows in production. On
64-bit servers you can go higher but if you go beyond 4GB, you need to
be very careful about the GC configuration you use... Even tho' it's
only experimental in Java 6, if you use a large heap, the G1 collector
is worth trying (but, as always, it's all about load testing / real
live load and constantly tuning the GC configuration to get the best
overall performance).
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RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Steve Onnis
32 Bit WIN2003 4GB ram, 1GB assigned to CF as thats all i can give it

-Original Message-
From: Carl [mailto:ca...@tassweb.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 2:38 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

Hi Steve,

How much RAM is installed on your Windows server? Is Windows & CF 32
or 64 bit?
Less than 500Mb RAM used by Jrun on a server installed with 4Gb RAM
would seem reasonable to me.

Regards, Carl.

On Jul 13, 2:14 pm, "Steve Onnis"  wrote:
> Has anyone had any issues with CF9 and memory?  I have this strange
problem
> where it does not seem to be giving it enough.  Looking at the windows
task
> mananger the jrun.exe process seems to not want to go over 300,000-400,000
K

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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Carl
Hi Steve,

How much RAM is installed on your Windows server? Is Windows & CF 32
or 64 bit?
Less than 500Mb RAM used by Jrun on a server installed with 4Gb RAM
would seem reasonable to me.

Regards, Carl.

On Jul 13, 2:14 pm, "Steve Onnis"  wrote:
> Has anyone had any issues with CF9 and memory?  I have this strange problem
> where it does not seem to be giving it enough.  Looking at the windows task
> mananger the jrun.exe process seems to not want to go over 300,000-400,000 K

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RE: [cfaussie] ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Steve Onnis
I think its ok for now. I upgraded the CF server to 9 but i forgot to update
the simultaneous requests setting and it was still set to 10. Surely not
enough for a production server :)

-Original Message-
From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:zac.spit...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 2:27 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

what's your jvm parameters?

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> Has anyone had any issues with CF9 and memory?  I have this strange
problem
> where it does not seem to be giving it enough.  Looking at the windows
task
> mananger the jrun.exe process seems to not want to go over 300,000-400,000
K
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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Zac Spitzer
what's your jvm parameters?

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> Has anyone had any issues with CF9 and memory?  I have this strange problem
> where it does not seem to be giving it enough.  Looking at the windows task
> mananger the jrun.exe process seems to not want to go over 300,000-400,000 K
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[cfaussie] ColdFusion 9 Server Memory Issues

2011-07-12 Thread Steve Onnis
Has anyone had any issues with CF9 and memory?  I have this strange problem
where it does not seem to be giving it enough.  Looking at the windows task
mananger the jrun.exe process seems to not want to go over 300,000-400,000 K

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Brian Knott
Got it thanks Charlie.

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of charlie arehart
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:13 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for coldfusion
builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it, including
my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2 so
worth a read for those who haven't seen it).

Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
perhaps?

/charlie


> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Knott
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
> 
> Brian
> 


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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread charlie arehart
OK, Peter, I'll bow out of this conversation. It's not one I intended to
start, or contribute to.

/charlie


> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ColdGen Internet Solutions
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:32 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> I've been using ColdFusion for 16 years now. Adoption comes to money -
> CF is not free. Don;t get me started on why DW is the new CF IDE. CF
> Builder is too foreign for me now.
> 
> DW is like a silk glove.
> 
> Peter Tilbrook


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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread ColdGen Internet Solutions
I've been using ColdFusion for 16 years now. Adoption comes to money -
CF is not free. Don;t get me started on why DW is the new CF IDE. CF
Builder is too foreign for me now.

DW is like a silk glove.

Peter Tilbrook
Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions
Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

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On 13 July 2011 04:16, charlie arehart  wrote:
> But Peter I wasn't talking about DW. You mentioned it, saying that you were
> already using it. This thread was about CFB, and I thought you (like many)
> were complaining because it is not free, so I offered the clarification
> (that many have not heard) that in cFB2 Adobe has addressed that.
>
> I also wasn't getting into a comparison of DW and CFB. (Feeling a little
> testy, there, Peter?) As for CF Studio, it went on to live as HomeSite Plus.
> While it's no longer updated (or sold), I'm not sure what you mean by "after
> so long without CF Studio proper it had to happen".
>
> /charlie
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of ColdGen Internet Solutions
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:43 PM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>>
>> Charlie Dreamweaver CS5.5 is NOT free and still shits on CF Builder.
>> After so long without CF Studio proper it had to happen.
>>
>> Peter Tilbrook
>> Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions
>> Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development
>> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
>> PO Box 2247
>> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
>> AUSTRALIA
>>
>> Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
>> Mob: +61-2-0457-449-016
>>
>> Email Address: pe...@coldgen.com
>> WWW: http://www.coldgen.com/
>>
>> ABN: 80 826 226 128
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 July 2011 02:40, charlie arehart 
>> wrote:
>> > Peter, it is free. Yes, CFBuilder 2 is free. After the trial ends, it
>> > reverts what they are now calling the Express edition. It turns off
>> some
>> > features, but for many it will suffice. Otherwise you can pay for a
>> license
>> > and drop it in to get all the features.
>> >
>> > Just wanted to be clear since you've taken this thread in this other
>> > direction.
>> >
>> > /charlie
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com]
>> On
>> >> Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:25 AM
>> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that
>> >> Dreamweaver
>> >> works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must
>> >> pay
>> >> MORE?
>> >>
>> >> Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as
>> a
>> >> CF
>> >> developer I have given up on that.
>> >>
>> >> We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden
>> and
>> >> many
>> >> others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread charlie arehart
But Peter I wasn't talking about DW. You mentioned it, saying that you were
already using it. This thread was about CFB, and I thought you (like many)
were complaining because it is not free, so I offered the clarification
(that many have not heard) that in cFB2 Adobe has addressed that.

I also wasn't getting into a comparison of DW and CFB. (Feeling a little
testy, there, Peter?) As for CF Studio, it went on to live as HomeSite Plus.
While it's no longer updated (or sold), I'm not sure what you mean by "after
so long without CF Studio proper it had to happen".

/charlie


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> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ColdGen Internet Solutions
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:43 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> Charlie Dreamweaver CS5.5 is NOT free and still shits on CF Builder.
> After so long without CF Studio proper it had to happen.
> 
> Peter Tilbrook
> Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions
> Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development
> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> PO Box 2247
> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> AUSTRALIA
> 
> Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On 13 July 2011 02:40, charlie arehart 
> wrote:
> > Peter, it is free. Yes, CFBuilder 2 is free. After the trial ends, it
> > reverts what they are now calling the Express edition. It turns off
> some
> > features, but for many it will suffice. Otherwise you can pay for a
> license
> > and drop it in to get all the features.
> >
> > Just wanted to be clear since you've taken this thread in this other
> > direction.
> >
> > /charlie
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:25 AM
> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> >>
> >> To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that
> >> Dreamweaver
> >> works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must
> >> pay
> >> MORE?
> >>
> >> Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as
> a
> >> CF
> >> developer I have given up on that.
> >>
> >> We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden
> and
> >> many
> >> others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.
> >>
> >> >>
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread ColdGen Internet Solutions
Charlie Dreamweaver CS5.5 is NOT free and still shits on CF Builder.
After so long without CF Studio proper it had to happen.

Peter Tilbrook
Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions
Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

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On 13 July 2011 02:40, charlie arehart  wrote:
> Peter, it is free. Yes, CFBuilder 2 is free. After the trial ends, it
> reverts what they are now calling the Express edition. It turns off some
> features, but for many it will suffice. Otherwise you can pay for a license
> and drop it in to get all the features.
>
> Just wanted to be clear since you've taken this thread in this other
> direction.
>
> /charlie
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:25 AM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>>
>> To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that
>> Dreamweaver
>> works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must
>> pay
>> MORE?
>>
>> Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as a
>> CF
>> developer I have given up on that.
>>
>> We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden and
>> many
>> others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.
>>
>> >>
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Kai Koenig
Ehhm, Dreamweaver is not free, right?

Why do so many people feel it's a god-given right to have a free
CF IDE from Adobe?

Sorry, seriously beyond me.

Cheers
Kai



On 12/07/2011, at 9:24 AM, "Peter Tilbrook"  wrote:

> To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that Dreamweaver
> works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must pay
> MORE?
> 
> Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as a CF
> developer I have given up on that.
> 
> We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden and many
> others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.
> 
>>> 
> 
> Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for coldfusion
> builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it, including
> my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2 so
> worth a read for those who haven't seen it).
> 
> Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
> perhaps?
> 
> /charlie
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Brian Knott
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 AM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>> 
>> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
> 
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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread charlie arehart
Peter, it is free. Yes, CFBuilder 2 is free. After the trial ends, it
reverts what they are now calling the Express edition. It turns off some
features, but for many it will suffice. Otherwise you can pay for a license
and drop it in to get all the features.

Just wanted to be clear since you've taken this thread in this other
direction.

/charlie


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> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:25 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that
> Dreamweaver
> works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must
> pay
> MORE?
> 
> Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as a
> CF
> developer I have given up on that.
> 
> We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden and
> many
> others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.
> 
> >>


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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Peter Tilbrook
To be honest I have found now over the YEARS since CFSTudio that Dreamweaver
works for me - not ideal but at least I own it. For CF Studio I must pay
MORE?

Frustrating like "why is ColdFusion not free" but after 16 years as a CF
developer I have given up on that.

We have great talent and front-men like Ben Forta, Raymond Camden and many
others but as far as the IDE we wanted should have been FREE.

>>

Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for coldfusion
builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it, including
my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2 so
worth a read for those who haven't seen it).

Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
perhaps?

/charlie


> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Knott
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
> 
> Brian
> 


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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread charlie arehart
Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for coldfusion
builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it, including
my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2 so
worth a read for those who haven't seen it).

Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
perhaps?

/charlie


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> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian Knott
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
> 
> Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
> 
> Brian
> 


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[cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Sagar Ganatra
Bryn,

Can you use the this tool: http://www.adaptj.com/main/download or
http://visualvm.java.net/download.html to get the stack trace. I'll
mail you my email id.

Thanks,
Sagar.
Adobe ColdFusion QE.
Fusioned with ColdFusion - www.sagarganatra.com

On Jul 12, 1:27 pm, bryn  wrote:
> I'm getting CFB2 locking up under 2 conditions that I've identified
> (maybe more)
>
> 1/. refreshing the open project files.  Some of these on the local
> hard drive, some on the server.
> 2/. Compacting the JVM Heap.  (Sometimes this seems to fail).
> This latter one came on today just after I'd done an edit pasting in a
> string into each of 10 lines of code.
> Then same thing happened a few minutes later.
> I closed the file being edited and opened it again.
>
> Each time it locks up, the screen goes white and CFB is unusable for
> up to 10 minutes at a time.
>
> Seems to happen more when large files (1300+ lines of code) being
> edited (not my original work).
>
> It would be great if CFB could be taught to only do these essential
> background tasks when the machine is otherwise idle.
>
> Cheers,
> Bryn
>
> On Jul 11, 2:18 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Last Thursday (7th of July), I had a connect session with Zac to get
> > to know the performance issues he was facing. As he mentioned in the
> > connect session, the IDE becomes unresponsive sometimes and it is
> > difficult to reproduce the issue. However, refresh of a directory
> > under a project whose location is on a shared network drive caused the
> > IDE to become unresponsive for some time and it resumed to its normal
> > functioning later. This must be an eclipse issue. If any of you see
> > the IDE becoming unresponsive, please take the thread dump using this
> > tool:http://www.adaptj.com/main/download. This will help us in
> > getting to know the root cause of the issue.
>
> > He also mentioned that, after changing the jre location to the default
> > one, he was no longer able to reproduce it.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Sagar.
> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > On Jul 6, 9:35 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > > I have no problem editing the files in side or outside
> > > of cfbuilder2, I have recreated the network connections
> > > using hostnames just in case it was the ip address mapped
> > > drive causing the problem.
>
> > > feel free to contact me off list for the connect session
>
> > > z
>
> > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > > wrote:
> > > > Zac,
>
> > > > I suspect this might be a machine connectivity issue. Can you create,
> > > > edit and save the file on the mapped location outside CFBuilder. I
> > > > just want to be sure that you are able to access the network location.
>
> > > > If you are able to save the file, then I would like to have a connect
> > > > session with you.
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sagar.
> > > > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > > > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > > > On Jul 5, 12:17 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > > >> Ah yes, I had completely forgotten about the express version!
>
> > > >> so I fired it up and opened a new project, with process monitor running
> > > >> in the background, I'm seeing a hell of lot of these messages
>
> > > >> I am using an mapped drive via an IP, rather than using a hostname
>
> > > >> Date & Time:        5/07/2011 5:15:04 PM
> > > >> Event Class:    File System
> > > >> Operation:      CreateFile
> > > >> Result: NAME NOT FOUND
> > > >> Path:   C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\192.168.2.6
> > > >> TID:    6300
> > > >> Duration:       0.159
> > > >> Desired Access: Read EA, Write EA, Read Attributes, Write Attributes,
> > > >> Delete, Read Control, Synchronize
> > > >> Disposition:    Open
> > > >> Options:        Synchronous IO Non-Alert
> > > >> Attributes:     n/a
> > > >> ShareMode:      Read, Write, Delete
> > > >> AllocationSize: n/a
>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > Zac,
>
> > > >> > Once the trial expires, you'll still be able to use CFBuilder2. It
> > > >> > switches to Express Edition, please see this blog post:
> > > >> >http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edit...
>
> > > >> > Can you try launching CFBuilder and see whether the workbench is
> > > >> > available to you and the projects located over the network are
> > > >> > accessible.
>
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Sagar.
> > > >> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > > >> > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > > >> > On Jul 5, 11:25 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > > >> >> alas my trial has expired, I'm not able to test this any more
>
> > > >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Sagar Ganatra 
> > > >> >>  wrote:
> > > >> >> > If any of you are still facing performance issues with CFBuilder2,
> > > >> >> > please let me know asap. I'm not able to reproduce the issue that 
> > > >> >> > Zac
> > > >> >> > has mentioned.
>
> > > >> >> > Few suggestions:
> > > >> >> > 1. Please 

[cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Sagar Ganatra
Charlie,

Zac had the files on a network location and was trying to refresh the
same. I suspect this might be an eclipse issue.

He had pointed the jre to an external one and not the one that comes
with CFBuilder. The one shipped with CFBuilder is in the same install
location (in the same directory as CFBuilder.exe).

CFBuilder or Eclipse will refer to the jre in the install location if
present.

Thanks,
Sagar.
Adobe ColdFusion QE.
Fusioned with ColdFusion - www.sagarganatra.com

On Jul 11, 8:31 pm, "charlie arehart" 
wrote:
> Sagar, can you offer two clarifications:
>
> With respect to the "project whose location is on a shared network drive",
> are you referring to the location of the workspace? Or the files within the
> project? I assume the latter, but just want to make sure.
>
> With respect to "changing the jre location to the default one", do you mean
> the default one that comes with CFB? If so, what had he changed it to (for
> those who want to understand the problem). Or do you mean a default one for
> the OS, if it had a default JRE (since you don't mention his OS, we're left
> to possibly interpret "default" in different ways".)
>
> Thanks.
>
> /charlie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Sagar Ganatra
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:19 AM
> > To: cfaussie
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
>
> > Last Thursday (7th of July), I had a connect session with Zac to get
> > to know the performance issues he was facing. As he mentioned in the
> > connect session, the IDE becomes unresponsive sometimes and it is
> > difficult to reproduce the issue. However, refresh of a directory
> > under a project whose location is on a shared network drive caused the
> > IDE to become unresponsive for some time and it resumed to its normal
> > functioning later. This must be an eclipse issue. If any of you see
> > the IDE becoming unresponsive, please take the thread dump using this
> > tool:http://www.adaptj.com/main/download. This will help us in
> > getting to know the root cause of the issue.
>
> > He also mentioned that, after changing the jre location to the default
> > one, he was no longer able to reproduce it.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Sagar.
> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread Brian Knott
Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?

Brian

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of bryn
Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2011 6:28 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

No, it isn't a machine connectivity issue.

On Jul 6, 2:28 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
> Zac,
>
> I suspect this might be a machine connectivity issue. Can you create, 
> edit and save the file on the mapped location outside CFBuilder. I 
> just want to be sure that you are able to access the network location.
>
> If you are able to save the file, then I would like to have a connect 
> session with you.
>
> Thanks,
> Sagar.
> Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> On Jul 5, 12:17 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > Ah yes, I had completely forgotten about the express version!
>
> > so I fired it up and opened a new project, with process monitor 
> > running in the background, I'm seeing a hell of lot of these 
> > messages
>
> > I am using an mapped drive via an IP, rather than using a hostname
>
> > Date & Time:        5/07/2011 5:15:04 PM Event Class:    File System
> > Operation:      CreateFile
> > Result: NAME NOT FOUND
> > Path:   C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\192.168.2.6
> > TID:    6300
> > Duration:       0.159
> > Desired Access: Read EA, Write EA, Read Attributes, Write 
> > Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize
> > Disposition:    Open
> > Options:        Synchronous IO Non-Alert
> > Attributes:     n/a
> > ShareMode:      Read, Write, Delete
> > AllocationSize: n/a
>
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Sagar Ganatra 
wrote:
> > > Zac,
>
> > > Once the trial expires, you'll still be able to use CFBuilder2. It  
> > >switches to Express Edition, please see this blog post:
> >
>http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edit...
>
> > > Can you try launching CFBuilder and see whether the workbench is 
> > > available to you and the projects located over the network are 
> > > accessible.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sagar.
> > > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > > On Jul 5, 11:25 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > >> alas my trial has expired, I'm not able to test this any more
>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Sagar Ganatra
 wrote:
> > >> > If any of you are still facing performance issues with 
> > >> > CFBuilder2, please let me know asap. I'm not able to reproduce 
> > >> > the issue that Zac has mentioned.
>
> > >> > Few suggestions:
> > >> > 1. Please read  Post_Install_Readme.txt (under CFBuilder 
> > >> > installation
> > >> > directory) for post installation steps.
> > >> > 2. The progress view will show current tasks being performed by 
> > >> > the IDE, such as indexing CFCs etc,. You can stop the tasks by 
> > >> > clicking the stop button in the progress view.
> > >> > 3. Start the IDE with a -consolelog option to see any errors or 
> > >> > exceptions thrown while the IDE is starting. Please ignore the 
> > >> > warning messages.
> > >> > 4. Restart the IDE by selecting a different workspace. The 
> > >> > current workspace might have got corrupted for some reason.
>
> > >> > If possible, share the project or files so that I can reproduce 
> > >> > the issue at my end.
>
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Sagar.
> > >> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > >> > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > >> > On Jul 4, 3:38 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
> > >> >> Zac,
>
> > >> >> CFBuilder takes some time to index the CFCs (depending on the 
> > >> >> number of files in the webroot, mappings etc,.). It uses these 
> > >> >> to provide code assist (for datasources, resolve CFC names). 
> > >> >> There is a preference option is CFBuilder to turn this on\off. 
> > >> >> Please refer to my blog 
> > >> >> post:http://www.sagarganatra.com/2010/05/coldfusion-builder-fe
> > >> >> w-tweaks.html
>
> > >> >> Also, I was not able to reproduce the CFBuilder hang with my 
> > >> >> project on a network location. Can you share the project, so 
> > >> >> that I can reproduce the issue?
>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Sagar.
> > >> >> Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > >> >> Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > >> >> On Jul 1, 1:23 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > >> >> > I'm working over a network drive on the lan, I guess that might
be the problem.
>
> > >> >> > All of the files I'm editing are only are small, most like 
> > >> >> > 5-10k a few approaching 20k, which is just mostly some 
> > >> >> > chunky sql gateways cfc's
>
> > >> >> > I have the console open, see what happens, maybe I will see 
> > >> >> > the heisenberg effect
>
> > >> >> > I tried the progress window, but it locked up with 
> > >> >> > everything else
>
> > >> >> > BTW thanks everyone for taking the time to help out :)
>
> > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Steve Onnis
 wrote:
> > >> >> > > Do you have any projects setup that were pointed to files 
> > >> >> > > across a networ

[cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread bryn
No, it isn't a machine connectivity issue.

On Jul 6, 2:28 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
> Zac,
>
> I suspect this might be a machine connectivity issue. Can you create,
> edit and save the file on the mapped location outside CFBuilder. I
> just want to be sure that you are able to access the network location.
>
> If you are able to save the file, then I would like to have a connect
> session with you.
>
> Thanks,
> Sagar.
> Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> On Jul 5, 12:17 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > Ah yes, I had completely forgotten about the express version!
>
> > so I fired it up and opened a new project, with process monitor running
> > in the background, I'm seeing a hell of lot of these messages
>
> > I am using an mapped drive via an IP, rather than using a hostname
>
> > Date & Time:        5/07/2011 5:15:04 PM
> > Event Class:    File System
> > Operation:      CreateFile
> > Result: NAME NOT FOUND
> > Path:   C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\192.168.2.6
> > TID:    6300
> > Duration:       0.159
> > Desired Access: Read EA, Write EA, Read Attributes, Write Attributes,
> > Delete, Read Control, Synchronize
> > Disposition:    Open
> > Options:        Synchronous IO Non-Alert
> > Attributes:     n/a
> > ShareMode:      Read, Write, Delete
> > AllocationSize: n/a
>
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > wrote:
> > > Zac,
>
> > > Once the trial expires, you'll still be able to use CFBuilder2. It
> > > switches to Express Edition, please see this blog post:
> > >http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edit...
>
> > > Can you try launching CFBuilder and see whether the workbench is
> > > available to you and the projects located over the network are
> > > accessible.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sagar.
> > > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > > On Jul 5, 11:25 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > >> alas my trial has expired, I'm not able to test this any more
>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > If any of you are still facing performance issues with CFBuilder2,
> > >> > please let me know asap. I'm not able to reproduce the issue that Zac
> > >> > has mentioned.
>
> > >> > Few suggestions:
> > >> > 1. Please read  Post_Install_Readme.txt (under CFBuilder installation
> > >> > directory) for post installation steps.
> > >> > 2. The progress view will show current tasks being performed by the
> > >> > IDE, such as indexing CFCs etc,. You can stop the tasks by clicking
> > >> > the stop button in the progress view.
> > >> > 3. Start the IDE with a -consolelog option to see any errors or
> > >> > exceptions thrown while the IDE is starting. Please ignore the warning
> > >> > messages.
> > >> > 4. Restart the IDE by selecting a different workspace. The current
> > >> > workspace might have got corrupted for some reason.
>
> > >> > If possible, share the project or files so that I can reproduce the
> > >> > issue at my end.
>
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Sagar.
> > >> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > >> > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > >> > On Jul 4, 3:38 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
> > >> >> Zac,
>
> > >> >> CFBuilder takes some time to index the CFCs (depending on the number
> > >> >> of files in the webroot, mappings etc,.). It uses these to provide
> > >> >> code assist (for datasources, resolve CFC names). There is a
> > >> >> preference option is CFBuilder to turn this on\off. Please refer to my
> > >> >> blog 
> > >> >> post:http://www.sagarganatra.com/2010/05/coldfusion-builder-few-tweaks.html
>
> > >> >> Also, I was not able to reproduce the CFBuilder hang with my project
> > >> >> on a network location. Can you share the project, so that I can
> > >> >> reproduce the issue?
>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Sagar.
> > >> >> Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > >> >> Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > >> >> On Jul 1, 1:23 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > >> >> > I'm working over a network drive on the lan, I guess that might be 
> > >> >> > the problem.
>
> > >> >> > All of the files I'm editing are only are small, most like 5-10k a 
> > >> >> > few
> > >> >> > approaching
> > >> >> > 20k, which is just mostly some chunky sql gateways cfc's
>
> > >> >> > I have the console open, see what happens, maybe I will see the
> > >> >> > heisenberg effect
>
> > >> >> > I tried the progress window, but it locked up with everything else
>
> > >> >> > BTW thanks everyone for taking the time to help out :)
>
> > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Steve Onnis 
> > >> >> >  wrote:
> > >> >> > > Do you have any projects setup that were pointed to files across 
> > >> >> > > a network
> > >> >> > > and if so do you know if those projects are currently open?  I 
> > >> >> > > know i have
> > >> >> > > had issues with projects across a network opening slowly and 
> > >> >> > > "seemingly"
> > >> >> > > crashing cfbuilder.  I would suggest just open

[cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-12 Thread bryn
I'm getting CFB2 locking up under 2 conditions that I've identified
(maybe more)

1/. refreshing the open project files.  Some of these on the local
hard drive, some on the server.
2/. Compacting the JVM Heap.  (Sometimes this seems to fail).
This latter one came on today just after I'd done an edit pasting in a
string into each of 10 lines of code.
Then same thing happened a few minutes later.
I closed the file being edited and opened it again.

Each time it locks up, the screen goes white and CFB is unusable for
up to 10 minutes at a time.

Seems to happen more when large files (1300+ lines of code) being
edited (not my original work).

It would be great if CFB could be taught to only do these essential
background tasks when the machine is otherwise idle.

Cheers,
Bryn

On Jul 11, 2:18 pm, Sagar Ganatra  wrote:
> Last Thursday (7th of July), I had a connect session with Zac to get
> to know the performance issues he was facing. As he mentioned in the
> connect session, the IDE becomes unresponsive sometimes and it is
> difficult to reproduce the issue. However, refresh of a directory
> under a project whose location is on a shared network drive caused the
> IDE to become unresponsive for some time and it resumed to its normal
> functioning later. This must be an eclipse issue. If any of you see
> the IDE becoming unresponsive, please take the thread dump using this
> tool:http://www.adaptj.com/main/download. This will help us in
> getting to know the root cause of the issue.
>
> He also mentioned that, after changing the jre location to the default
> one, he was no longer able to reproduce it.
>
> Thanks,
> Sagar.
> Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> On Jul 6, 9:35 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
>
> > I have no problem editing the files in side or outside
> > of cfbuilder2, I have recreated the network connections
> > using hostnames just in case it was the ip address mapped
> > drive causing the problem.
>
> > feel free to contact me off list for the connect session
>
> > z
>
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > wrote:
> > > Zac,
>
> > > I suspect this might be a machine connectivity issue. Can you create,
> > > edit and save the file on the mapped location outside CFBuilder. I
> > > just want to be sure that you are able to access the network location.
>
> > > If you are able to save the file, then I would like to have a connect
> > > session with you.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sagar.
> > > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > > On Jul 5, 12:17 pm, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > >> Ah yes, I had completely forgotten about the express version!
>
> > >> so I fired it up and opened a new project, with process monitor running
> > >> in the background, I'm seeing a hell of lot of these messages
>
> > >> I am using an mapped drive via an IP, rather than using a hostname
>
> > >> Date & Time:        5/07/2011 5:15:04 PM
> > >> Event Class:    File System
> > >> Operation:      CreateFile
> > >> Result: NAME NOT FOUND
> > >> Path:   C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\192.168.2.6
> > >> TID:    6300
> > >> Duration:       0.159
> > >> Desired Access: Read EA, Write EA, Read Attributes, Write Attributes,
> > >> Delete, Read Control, Synchronize
> > >> Disposition:    Open
> > >> Options:        Synchronous IO Non-Alert
> > >> Attributes:     n/a
> > >> ShareMode:      Read, Write, Delete
> > >> AllocationSize: n/a
>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Sagar Ganatra  
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Zac,
>
> > >> > Once the trial expires, you'll still be able to use CFBuilder2. It
> > >> > switches to Express Edition, please see this blog post:
> > >> >http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edit...
>
> > >> > Can you try launching CFBuilder and see whether the workbench is
> > >> > available to you and the projects located over the network are
> > >> > accessible.
>
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Sagar.
> > >> > Adobe ColdFusion QE.
> > >> > Fusioned with ColdFusion -www.sagarganatra.com
>
> > >> > On Jul 5, 11:25 am, Zac Spitzer  wrote:
> > >> >> alas my trial has expired, I'm not able to test this any more
>
> > >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Sagar Ganatra 
> > >> >>  wrote:
> > >> >> > If any of you are still facing performance issues with CFBuilder2,
> > >> >> > please let me know asap. I'm not able to reproduce the issue that 
> > >> >> > Zac
> > >> >> > has mentioned.
>
> > >> >> > Few suggestions:
> > >> >> > 1. Please read  Post_Install_Readme.txt (under CFBuilder 
> > >> >> > installation
> > >> >> > directory) for post installation steps.
> > >> >> > 2. The progress view will show current tasks being performed by the
> > >> >> > IDE, such as indexing CFCs etc,. You can stop the tasks by clicking
> > >> >> > the stop button in the progress view.
> > >> >> > 3. Start the IDE with a -consolelog option to see any errors or
> > >> >> > exceptions thrown while the IDE is starting. Please ignore the 
> > >