Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 03:20:43PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:44:40 +, Matthew Toseland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:24:41PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [ re: dual-network nodes ] > > > > > > > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... > > > > > > Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading. It's really > > > just a simple adjustment of a few variables. > > > > Well, the way the code was designed is such that it is SUPPOSED to > > disconnect from incompatible nodes. Hence my amazement that it works. > > But...if they're using the same protocol, then where's the > incompatibility? They're not. They use a deliberately different protocolVersion. They are supposed to disconnect if a node connects with a different protocolVersion. > As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and > unstable are perfectly compatible with each other. We really might even > wish to consider just going ahead and enabling the dual-network mode by > default in versions 510x and 6026x. I think this could be a real boon > to the currently existing network(s). Possibly. Personally I haven't used unstable in ages. It is useful _sometimes_ to have a network you can disrupt. But right now effort is focussed on 0.7. > > Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes, where we'd want > to disable this feature again, but for now, it might be nice to build it > into the downloadable packages, so everyone could benefit from it. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
Because it's a different protocolVersion. Isn't it? On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 03:20:43PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:44:40 +, Matthew Toseland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:24:41PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [ re: dual-network nodes ] > > > > > > > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... > > > > > > Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading. It's really > > > just a simple adjustment of a few variables. > > > > Well, the way the code was designed is such that it is SUPPOSED to > > disconnect from incompatible nodes. Hence my amazement that it works. > > But...if they're using the same protocol, then where's the > incompatibility? As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and > unstable are perfectly compatible with each other. We really might even > wish to consider just going ahead and enabling the dual-network mode by > default in versions 510x and 6026x. I think this could be a real boon > to the currently existing network(s). > > Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes, where we'd want > to disable this feature again, but for now, it might be nice to build it > into the downloadable packages, so everyone could benefit from it. > > -- > Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:40:13 -0800, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:20:43 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and unstable > > are perfectly compatible with each other. We really > > might even wish to consider just going ahead and > > enabling the dual-network mode by default in versions > > 510x and 6026x. I think this could be a real boon > > to the currently existing network(s). > > Why? 1) How active is the unstable network? 2) How much of that > activity is by people who are not also contributing to the stable > network? 3) Wouldn't a node serving both networks risk overloading, > and thus weighing down both of them? 4) Weren't you yourself saying, > just a while back, that running dual-network was an activity for an > "elite"? 1) Using the seednodes files as a reference, it seems that unstable is fairly active. Not as active as stable, of course, but active enough to warrant consideration. 2) No way to answer this question, really. :-) 3) No, there would be no greater risk of overloading a node, as it would adjust itself in exactly the same manner, regardless of the node versions it was connecting with. 4) I only meant that it was "elite" in the sense that, because it was NOT enabled by default, one had to take extraordinary measures to activate this facility. > > Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes, > > where we'd want to disable this feature again, but for > > now, it might be nice to build it into the downloadable > > packages, so everyone could benefit from it. > > I think we could benefit from somebody taking over maintenance of 0.6 > while the 0.7 rewrite is being done. Somebody Toad (and the rest of > us!) could trust. Somebody with the energy needed to do it. Somebody > who has a few ideas about how he'd accomplish such a task. I agree. I'd hate to see 0.6 languish totally while Toad is busy with his 0.7 rewrite. There's always room for improvement/new ideas. -- Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:44:40 +, Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:24:41PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [ re: dual-network nodes ] > > > > > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... > > > > Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading. It's really > > just a simple adjustment of a few variables. > > Well, the way the code was designed is such that it is SUPPOSED to > disconnect from incompatible nodes. Hence my amazement that it works. But...if they're using the same protocol, then where's the incompatibility? As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and unstable are perfectly compatible with each other. We really might even wish to consider just going ahead and enabling the dual-network mode by default in versions 510x and 6026x. I think this could be a real boon to the currently existing network(s). Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes, where we'd want to disable this feature again, but for now, it might be nice to build it into the downloadable packages, so everyone could benefit from it. -- Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:24:41PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ re: dual-network nodes ] > > > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... > > Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading. It's really just > a simple adjustment of a few variables. Well, the way the code was designed is such that it is SUPPOSED to disconnect from incompatible nodes. Hence my amazement that it works. > > > my understanding is > > that the code will disconnect if you try to do this.. > > No, actually, it does work, and rather well at that. On my unstable > node, the stable nodes I've been regularly connecting with are some of > my biggest "producers". Check this out (this is from a recently > restarted node): Then there's a bug... :( > > Peer node version Messages Data sent Data received > Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 142105:13157 15 MiB 1,929 KiB > Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 66454:77763 6,062 KiB 11 MiB > Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 51556:13525 4,382 KiB 1,995 KiB -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ re: dual-network nodes ] > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading. It's really just a simple adjustment of a few variables. > my understanding is > that the code will disconnect if you try to do this.. No, actually, it does work, and rather well at that. On my unstable node, the stable nodes I've been regularly connecting with are some of my biggest "producers". Check this out (this is from a recently restarted node): Peer node version Messages Data sent Data received Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 142105:13157 15 MiB1,929 KiB Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 66454:77763 6,062 KiB 11 MiB Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 51556:13525 4,382 KiB 1,995 KiB - Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
I am of the opinion that the unstable network is irrelevant at the moment. :) On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 07:21:17AM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:47:14 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conrad J. > > Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier > > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important > > >enough > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed > > >to this > >or that list. > > >> > > > >> >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely > > >to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to > > >> >cross-post. > > >> > > > >> > > >> Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I > > >> might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded > > >> unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. > > > > > >Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the > > >source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so > > >anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, > > >uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new > > >freenet.jar for themselves. > > > > > >In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and > > >will most likely remain so. > > > > > > > Maybe I misunderstood you: I thought you were hoping for many stable > > nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated. All > > I was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you > > have a new build number and new snapshots available for said stable > > nodes. -- > > Roger Hayter > > No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential > audience as possible. I would *hope* that people involved enough in > freenet to undertake running a dual-network node would be subscribed to > at least one or two of these lists, but it's impossible, of course, to > know for sure if they are, or to which ones, so I just used the "spray > paint" approach. :-) > > The update itself doesn't really warrant a new build number, IMHO (or > maybe it does; I don't know). At any rate, for the "average" stable > user, the update is completely irrelevant and can be safely ignored; > it's really only the "elite" group of dual-network node users that > needed to be informed, and I just wanted to cover all the bases in one > fell swoop. > > The reason I felt it was so important was that, prior to this update, > the dual-network functionality was, in effect, pretty badly broken (at > least from the stable side), so I felt there was a certain urgency in > getting the word out. I also feel very strongly that the dual-network > nodes serve a very vital function, bridging the two otherwise completely > separate networks and helping to propagate data between the two, thereby > helping to enrich freenet's content for everyone. > > I hope I've cleared up any possible misunderstandings now. :-) > > -- > Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works... my understanding is that the code will disconnect if you try to do this.. On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:37:02PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough > > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this > > >or that list. > > > > > >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to > > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to > > >cross-post. > > > > > > > Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I > > might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded > > unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. > > Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the > source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so > anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, uncomment > the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new freenet.jar for > themselves. > > In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and will > most likely remain so. > > -- > Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
Nothing that is related to Freenet is off-topic in chat. :) Unless it makes the list unusable. On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:31:21PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > >>Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough to > >>make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this or that > >>list. > > > >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to > >cross-post. > > > > Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I might > remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded unless some > one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
OK, crosspost are bad, but the Freenet project normally suffer from really poor communications from developement team to the average permanent node owner, so this time IMHO I *LIKE* crossposting. Thanks Conrad. JM2C of course. On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 11:26 -0800, Todd Walton wrote: > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:21:17 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential > > audience as possible. > > I understand what you're saying. But I don't understand why you > posted to *three* different lists. If somebody's running a > dual-network node, and they expect to maintain it, then they're likely > to be on the devl list. If they're not reading devl, then they're > likely not interested in maintaining their node. In fact, I really > doubt that the few people running dual-network nodes are not reading > devl. > > Who would get that info via chat?? > > My 0.13 Swedish Kronors. > > -todd > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:21:17 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential > audience as possible. I understand what you're saying. But I don't understand why you posted to *three* different lists. If somebody's running a dual-network node, and they expect to maintain it, then they're likely to be on the devl list. If they're not reading devl, then they're likely not interested in maintaining their node. In fact, I really doubt that the few people running dual-network nodes are not reading devl. Who would get that info via chat?? My 0.13 Swedish Kronors. -todd ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:47:14 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conrad J. > Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > > > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important > >enough > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed > >to this > >or that list. > >> > > >> >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely > >to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to > >> >cross-post. > >> > > >> > >> Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I > >> might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded > >> unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. > > > >Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the > >source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so > >anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, > >uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new > >freenet.jar for themselves. > > > >In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and > >will most likely remain so. > > > > Maybe I misunderstood you: I thought you were hoping for many stable > nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated. All > I was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you > have a new build number and new snapshots available for said stable > nodes. -- > Roger Hayter No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential audience as possible. I would *hope* that people involved enough in freenet to undertake running a dual-network node would be subscribed to at least one or two of these lists, but it's impossible, of course, to know for sure if they are, or to which ones, so I just used the "spray paint" approach. :-) The update itself doesn't really warrant a new build number, IMHO (or maybe it does; I don't know). At any rate, for the "average" stable user, the update is completely irrelevant and can be safely ignored; it's really only the "elite" group of dual-network node users that needed to be informed, and I just wanted to cover all the bases in one fell swoop. The reason I felt it was so important was that, prior to this update, the dual-network functionality was, in effect, pretty badly broken (at least from the stable side), so I felt there was a certain urgency in getting the word out. I also feel very strongly that the dual-network nodes serve a very vital function, bridging the two otherwise completely separate networks and helping to propagate data between the two, thereby helping to enrich freenet's content for everyone. I hope I've cleared up any possible misunderstandings now. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this >or that list. > >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to >cross-post. > Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new freenet.jar for themselves. In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and will most likely remain so. Maybe I misunderstood you: I thought you were hoping for many stable nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated. All I was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you have a new build number and new snapshots available for said stable nodes. -- Roger Hayter ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this > >or that list. > > > >Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to > >cross-post. > > > > Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I > might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded > unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new freenet.jar for themselves. In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and will most likely remain so. -- Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- "In Unix veritas" ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this or that list. Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to be others who would not agree that it's important enough to cross-post. Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it? For instance, I might remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded unless some one builds a snapshot and increments the build number. -- Roger Hayter ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough to > make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this or that > list. Right. But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to be others who would not agree that it's important enough to cross-post. -todd ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
