date:20021029

Hay Dan, are you and Dale brothers or something, having the same last
name???
Chad
- Original Message -
From: "Dan McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands


> Hilarious,
> Screw the damn dog, I'm gettin my Chevelle!
> I love it...
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
> 65 Malibu
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Herbert Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
>
>
> > In all honesty, if you want to store your car on jack stands so your
tires
> > don't get flat spots, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  If you have
> > modern radials, any flat spots from sitting will go away within the
first
> > couple miles of driving after storage.
> >
> > Besides, what if your house catches on fire, you won't have time to get
> your
> > Chevelle off the jack stands and out of the garage!  I say keep it on
the
> > tires, you never know!
> >
> > cYa-
> >
> > Herb Lumpp
> > 1966 El Camino
> > ACES 3509, MCC 528
> > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeff Wysocki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> >
> >
> > > I came in late on the post! I was planning the same storage item
> :Storing
> > on
> > > Jacks" Were shouldn't the jack stands be? And were are the best
> locations?
> > I
> > > had planed on putting the stands at the frame rails at the "Door hinge
> > area
> > > of the frame / Front" and at the frame just "Before the rear wheels".
> This
> > > sounds as if to be wrong! I was trying to get the suspension from
being
> > > loaded!
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >  Jeff Wysocki
> > > Brownstown Twp., Michigan
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> > >
> > >
> > > > Greg I was the one who mentioned the JACK stand problem. You Can use
> > jask
> > > > stands if  thay support the car
> > > > under the A arms in the front and the rear axle tubes in the rear.
The
> > > > problem is guys tend to support the car in the cowl area and the
frame
> > > just
> > > > behind the gast tank.
> > > > A body cars are FLEXABLE and when supported in this fasion they were
> not
> > > > ment to be for long periods of time , the frame flex becomes
> memorized.
> > > >
> > > > Wayne
> > > > ACES 1556
> > > > TCG 186
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> > > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
> > > > > Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out
the
> > old
> > > > > SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would
prefer
> to
> > > > > put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any
problems.
> >
> >
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ain't that the truth.  Well, at the Verona car 
show, he showed his mustang (not for prize, just left it there for people to 
see).  and the funny thing is, the mustang has 3 dents, the tailight panel 
is crooked, and the touchup paint on the door is a shade darker, and there is 
overspray underneath.  Yet he acts like it's the best car out there.  
I will bet you that if he ever met you, he is gonna bring up his mustang in the 
converstation, and then most importantly, state that it is all original and 
untouched (he can't stress enough times that it is original and 
untouched).  You ask what he likes, i guess it's mustangs.  My dad's 
old friends are always shocked that he got a ford, and you know why?  They 
were talking to me when he wasn't there, and they said on how much he bashed 
fords around back in the old days, and they say the funny thing is now that he 
BOUGHT a ford.  Lol.  It's not that he doesn't CARE for the car, he 
just wants to see it shiney and stock.  Every time an old car drives past 
us, he always says somehting like, did you see that left quarter panel, it 
looked wavy, and I'm like, what the hell, I just gave him a thumbs up, and was 
woah, great kool car!  I didn't look for no damn imperfections, for god's 
sake.  He likes some cars, his favorite is a 70 Goat.  But it has to 
be a "good deal" and original or he ain't gonna get it.  Also, another 
funny thing is, that when he dropped that mustang at the show for people to look 
at it, he was worried about people stealing it!?  I look around, and 
there's an 11,000 mile original LS-6 and then there is a 65 Hemi bedelverde, and 
he is worried about his 93 mustang GT getting stolen.  haha...
  Chad

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale McIntosh 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:01 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] My car is 
  for sale
  
  
  Totally agree.  Just curious when your dad went to car 
  shows, did he ever SHOW a car or just criticize others? Doesn’t like Malibu’s, not excited about 
  an original SS, and doesn’t care for an AAR Cuda.  What does he like?  Sounds like he’s at 
  home in a new car showroom and not at car 
  shows.
   
  
  Dale 
  McIntosh
  TC 
  Gold #92/ACES #1709
  67SS/67 
  Elky
  Dale's Place
  Team 
  67
  Midwest Chevelle 
  Regionals
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:29 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is 
  for sale
   
  Chad,Sorry 
  to say, but if your dad came up to me and put my car down for not being 
  original, I'd knock him on his ass.  If he likes original, nothing wrong 
  with that, but he has no right to knock another guy/gal's car since he does 
  not even own one.  Sorry but behavior like that just flat out pisses me 
  off.  These people dump thousands upon thousands of dollars and man hours 
  into these cars and to do that is flat out 
  disrespectful.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

Exactly my point, you can always get another dog!

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES 3509, MCC 528
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

- Original Message -
From: "Dan McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands


> Hilarious,
> Screw the damn dog, I'm gettin my Chevelle!
> I love it...
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
> 65 Malibu
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Herbert Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
>
>
> > In all honesty, if you want to store your car on jack stands so your
tires
> > don't get flat spots, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  If you have
> > modern radials, any flat spots from sitting will go away within the
first
> > couple miles of driving after storage.
> >
> > Besides, what if your house catches on fire, you won't have time to get
> your
> > Chevelle off the jack stands and out of the garage!  I say keep it on
the
> > tires, you never know!
> >
> > cYa-
> >
> > Herb Lumpp
> > 1966 El Camino
> > ACES 3509, MCC 528
> > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeff Wysocki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> >
> >
> > > I came in late on the post! I was planning the same storage item
> :Storing
> > on
> > > Jacks" Were shouldn't the jack stands be? And were are the best
> locations?
> > I
> > > had planed on putting the stands at the frame rails at the "Door hinge
> > area
> > > of the frame / Front" and at the frame just "Before the rear wheels".
> This
> > > sounds as if to be wrong! I was trying to get the suspension from
being
> > > loaded!
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >  Jeff Wysocki
> > > Brownstown Twp., Michigan


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RE: [Chevelle-List] 1972 MC Frame









I checked with www.mapquest.com  and Burleson appears to be in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, 250 north of San Antonio

 

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&ct=NA&1y=US&1a=&1p=&1c=burleson&1s=tx&1z=&2y=US&2a=&2p=&2c=san+antonio&2s=tx&2z=&lr=2&x=64&y=10


 



Dale McIntosh

TC Gold #92/ACES #1709

67SS/67 Elky

Dale's Place

Team 67

Midwest Chevelle
Regionals



 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002
9:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 1972
MC Frame

 

In
a message dated 10/29/2002 5:05:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:




I have a 1972 MC frame with orig 350/350 on it.
Motor needs rebuild,
trans works good,  needs front &rear seals.  Make offer.

D.R. Jones
Burleson, TX



Where is Burleson TX in relationship to San Antonio?   68-72
Chevelles and Monte Carlo frames are IDENTICALcorrect?

Mike

Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

2002-10-29 Thread Dan McIntosh

Hilarious,
Screw the damn dog, I'm gettin my Chevelle!
I love it...
Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS
65 Malibu

- Original Message -
From: "Herbert Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands


> In all honesty, if you want to store your car on jack stands so your tires
> don't get flat spots, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  If you have
> modern radials, any flat spots from sitting will go away within the first
> couple miles of driving after storage.
>
> Besides, what if your house catches on fire, you won't have time to get
your
> Chevelle off the jack stands and out of the garage!  I say keep it on the
> tires, you never know!
>
> cYa-
>
> Herb Lumpp
> 1966 El Camino
> ACES 3509, MCC 528
> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Wysocki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
>
>
> > I came in late on the post! I was planning the same storage item
:Storing
> on
> > Jacks" Were shouldn't the jack stands be? And were are the best
locations?
> I
> > had planed on putting the stands at the frame rails at the "Door hinge
> area
> > of the frame / Front" and at the frame just "Before the rear wheels".
This
> > sounds as if to be wrong! I was trying to get the suspension from being
> > loaded!
> >
> >  Thanks in advance!
> >
> >  Jeff Wysocki
> > Brownstown Twp., Michigan
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> >
> >
> > > Greg I was the one who mentioned the JACK stand problem. You Can use
> jask
> > > stands if  thay support the car
> > > under the A arms in the front and the rear axle tubes in the rear. The
> > > problem is guys tend to support the car in the cowl area and the frame
> > just
> > > behind the gast tank.
> > > A body cars are FLEXABLE and when supported in this fasion they were
not
> > > ment to be for long periods of time , the frame flex becomes
memorized.
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > > ACES 1556
> > > TCG 186
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> > >
> > >
> > > > In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
> > > > Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out the
> old
> > > > SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would prefer
to
> > > > put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any problems.
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale









Totally agree.  Just curious when your dad went to car
shows, did he ever SHOW a car or just criticize others? Doesn’t
like Malibu’s, not excited about an original SS, and
doesn’t care for an AAR Cuda.  What does he like?  Sounds like he’s
at home in a new car showroom and not at car shows.

 



Dale McIntosh

TC Gold #92/ACES #1709

67SS/67 Elky

Dale's Place

Team 67

Midwest Chevelle
Regionals



 

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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002
8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My
car is for sale

 

Chad,

Sorry to say, but if your dad came up to me and put my car down for not being
original, I'd knock him on his ass.  If he likes original, nothing wrong
with that, but he has no right to knock another guy/gal's car since he does not
even own one.  Sorry but behavior like that just flat out pisses me
off.  These people dump thousands upon thousands of dollars and man hours
into these cars and to do that is flat out disrespectful.

Re: [Chevelle-List] 1972 MC Frame

2002-10-29 Thread FASTRED68

In a message dated 10/29/2002 5:05:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a 1972 MC frame with orig 350/350 on it. Motor needs rebuild,
trans works good,  needs front &rear seals.  Make offer.

D.R. Jones
Burleson, TX

Where is Burleson TX in relationship to San Antonio?   68-72 Chevelles and Monte Carlo frames are IDENTICALcorrect?

Mike

Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Hi Brian,

You're correct, if you have manual brakes, the rod goes in the top hole of
the brake pedal arm, power brakes and the rod goes in the lower hole.

The reason for this is if you have manual brakes, by putting the rod in the
top hole you will have more "mechanical leverage" to apply the brakes.  With
power brakes you don't need as much leverage, hence putting the arm in the
lower hole.

As for the master cylinder having the same size reservoirs, typically the
unequal size is for a disc/drum system and the equal size is for disc/disc.

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES 3509, MCC 528
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/


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From: "Brian Zack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


> I thought that it was manual brakes top hole and power brakes bottom hole.
> My old manual drum brakes were on the top hole and the angle of the
booster
> rod seems like it is aimed towards connecting to the bottom.
>
> Confused
> Brian Zack
> '70 Chevelle Malibu
> mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:MICRLASER@;aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
>
>
> Brian
>
> If you look way up on the top of the pedal post, there are 2 holes for the
U
>
> shaped brakcet.  It is supposed to be on the top one.  I made that mistake
> when I pulled the booster off mine top refinish it and then reisntalled
it.
>
> I had a hell of a time bleeding it for that reason until I looked up and
> said, oh DUH!!!  If it is on the bottom one it will put the actuator rod
on
> an angle and pull the pedal closer to the floor.
>
> Tom


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My point exactly.  You pulled the words right 
out of my mouth.  I have respect for every old car there is, because of the 
money people put into it, and also, man, its a beauty and a classic.  I 
love them all - not just chevelles.  There was also a 72 Nova, all tubbed 
and backhalved at this show in oakmont, and he didn't say anything to the owner, 
but told me "look at that peice of S#** over there," and I turned my head 
towards it expecting it to be rusted out and stuff, and it was a SHINEY 
beautiful Nova SS clone Drag car.  I asked the owner what it did, the best 
times were 7.34.  Now that is no peice of s*** there!  I never bother 
explianing to him that these cars deserve appreciation.  My cousin bought a 
67 Cougar - pretty cool, w/ a 340? and 4 speed.  We (relatives and I) were 
talking to my cousin about it, and commenting on how nice it is.  it is 
brown.  My dad was the only one not near the car not talking to 
him cause the car didn't have the original engine in it.  Also, when 
we got home, he was saying that cougars are dumb and who the hell cares about 
cougars.  I said "I do" and he never replied.  I also have a pretty 
cool story about this guy who got a 69 Judge.  same car show (pretty big 
show - lots of people to talk to, and lots of fun chatting and hanging around), 
and this old man, around 75, 80 yrs old, brought his 69 hugger orange judge, and 
he told me that he found this car in a barn around 3 years ago, 4 now since the 
car show was last year, and the paint still smelled new.  he bought the car 
for 200 dollars, and it was "barn fresh" and I tell ya, it was pretty.  
only had 37,000 miles on it!  :-0  My mom is great though, she loves 
these old cars, and appreciates every single one out there.  :-)  She 
is all for me getting an old car, even said that she would help pay 
insurance!  Now how nice can that get!?  
        
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
            Chad

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  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is 
  for sale
  Chad,Sorry to say, but if 
  your dad came up to me and put my car down for not being original, I'd knock 
  him on his ass.  If he likes original, nothing wrong with that, but he 
  has no right to knock another guy/gal's car since he does not even own 
  one.  Sorry but behavior like that just flat out pisses me off.  
  These people dump thousands upon thousands of dollars and man hours into these 
  cars and to do that is flat out disrespectful.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

In all honesty, if you want to store your car on jack stands so your tires
don't get flat spots, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  If you have
modern radials, any flat spots from sitting will go away within the first
couple miles of driving after storage.

Besides, what if your house catches on fire, you won't have time to get your
Chevelle off the jack stands and out of the garage!  I say keep it on the
tires, you never know!

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES 3509, MCC 528
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

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From: "Jeff Wysocki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands


> I came in late on the post! I was planning the same storage item :Storing
on
> Jacks" Were shouldn't the jack stands be? And were are the best locations?
I
> had planed on putting the stands at the frame rails at the "Door hinge
area
> of the frame / Front" and at the frame just "Before the rear wheels". This
> sounds as if to be wrong! I was trying to get the suspension from being
> loaded!
>
>  Thanks in advance!
>
>  Jeff Wysocki
> Brownstown Twp., Michigan
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wayne Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
>
>
> > Greg I was the one who mentioned the JACK stand problem. You Can use
jask
> > stands if  thay support the car
> > under the A arms in the front and the rear axle tubes in the rear. The
> > problem is guys tend to support the car in the cowl area and the frame
> just
> > behind the gast tank.
> > A body cars are FLEXABLE and when supported in this fasion they were not
> > ment to be for long periods of time , the frame flex becomes memorized.
> >
> > Wayne
> > ACES 1556
> > TCG 186
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
> >
> >
> > > In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
> > > Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out the
old
> > > SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would prefer to
> > > put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any problems.


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Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale

2002-10-29 Thread MICRLASER

Chad,

Sorry to say, but if your dad came up to me and put my car down for not being original, I'd knock him on his ass.  If he likes original, nothing wrong with that, but he has no right to knock another guy/gal's car since he does not even own one.  Sorry but behavior like that just flat out pisses me off.  These people dump thousands upon thousands of dollars and man hours into these cars and to do that is flat out disrespectful.

Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale




Just talked to my parents - mom is all for 
it!  dad however just blew up and we got into a big ass fight.  I 
don't say nothing, and he just this and that.  The problem with him is that 
he HAS to like the car I'm getting (meaning that even if the car is good 
condition, he may not like the "car" itself, if you know what i mean), and I 
don't get why he needs to even like the car i'm getting.  It just needs to 
be drivable and good looking.  He pretty much from what I can tell, doesn't 
like malibu's or even SS clones - he's an original freak, when he went to the 
car shows, he just totally put the people down w/o the original engines and 
non-original tires - totally put them down.  But there was this one 1970 SS 
w/ original everything, untouched red w/ stripes, and he didn't flip for it, but 
rathered be there with that car.  he just is irratating at the car shows 
cause of that.  There was a guy with an original AAR cuda - perfect 
restoration, and so on...and the guy said that the car was worth at least 30 
grand.  And I didn't say nothing (i don't like people bragging about how 
much their car is worth), but my dad said, "so what, It's not important to 
me."  I swear, the guy was about to clock him.  Sorry for 
ranting.  
        
                
                
                
                
    Chad

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  From: 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:46 
  AM
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  for sale
  Chad: buy it now and take care of all the bugs before you 
  can drive 
  Larry 
  (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

2002-10-29 Thread Jeff Wysocki

I came in late on the post! I was planning the same storage item :Storing on
Jacks" Were shouldn't the jack stands be? And were are the best locations? I
had planed on putting the stands at the frame rails at the "Door hinge area
of the frame / Front" and at the frame just "Before the rear wheels". This
sounds as if to be wrong! I was trying to get the suspension from being
loaded!

 Thanks in advance!

 Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:07 PM
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> Greg I was the one who mentioned the JACK stand problem. You Can use jask
> stands if  thay support the car
> under the A arms in the front and the rear axle tubes in the rear. The
> problem is guys tend to support the car in the cowl area and the frame
just
> behind the gast tank.
> A body cars are FLEXABLE and when supported in this fasion they were not
> ment to be for long periods of time , the frame flex becomes memorized.
>
> Wayne
> ACES 1556
> TCG 186
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands
>
>
> > In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
> > Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out the old
> > SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would prefer to
> > put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any problems.
> >
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> > I never heard that. Actually what I was referring to was if they were
> > going to pull the oil pan while motor was still in car.
> > Larry (Z)
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount /winter project

2002-10-29 Thread Tom Tomlinson

Bill:
Yes, I've thought about pulling the motor and detailing the
engine/compartment. I do have some friends that have more mechanical
experience that I do. The main problem is the engine hoist; I don't own one.
Maybe I could rent one, but my car is stored in the basement of a cottage in
upstate NY, and once the snow flies, there is no way to get anything large
into the basement when the drive-in door gets snowed in. If I rent it now,
it will probably be locked in all winter. But maybe I'll look into it. The
engine has a chrome timing chain cover and oil pan that have always leaked,
and it would be the easiest way to clean everything up. The other problem is
that I have other things to do on the car, steering coupler, master
cylinder, ..., and the project can't be so large that it will take me past
April. The car HAS to be done by spring so I can drive it. The cottage is a
great place to work, however, as it has a furnace and I can get away for a
weekend and work in peace.

Also, for those of you asking about storing on jack stands, I've stored my
car on stands for the last 3 years withno problems. I only lift the car high
enough to "relax" the suspension and prevent flat spots on the tires. I
believe this was suggested in the winterization procedure on the
chevelles.com website.

Thanks to all for the safety and other hints.

Tom

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Tom
If you are putting the car away for the winter...have you thought about a
winter project? If you pull the motor, its really easy to fix the oil pan
and
motor mounts, but its also a great time to clean/paint the engine and the
engine compartment and to replace the motor mounts and anything else while
you are there. Its a messy job, but looks great after.

I would also recommend getting help from someone who has done this BEFORE
you
start...just thinking out loud

Bill C
Ct

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread KEhrhardt

In a message dated 10/29/2002 4:31:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Good points. I wasn't sure how the two would be different. But, Your answers
>  make sense. I'm kind of leaning to more towards the proportioning valve
>  being somewhat of a culprit now also. I think i might just go over to the
>  speed shop and pick up an adjustable one. (They are the only ones in town
>  that carries them and ground up wants $140 for an original one). Besides,
>  the junkyard one was $45 and whe i called the speed shop, theirs was 
$59.95.
>  Not too big a difference and cheaper than original.

Summit or Jegs sells the Wilwood adjustable prop valve for around $40 + 
shipping.  Then you can dial it in if you have bigger tires than stock or 
your weight distribution is different.  So it will probably be a wash buying 
it at the local speed shop.  I have a couple of the original GM 71-72 Monte 
disc/drum prop valves in the garage if I could ever find them.  I think they 
may be in the closet next to the 3D-BB.  B-)

-
Kurt Ehrhardt
ACES #1280
66 Malibu
66 SuperSport
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread Brad Waller

Title: Message



The offset shafts help, 
but don't completely work.  I used them before GW made their custom arms 
and I went through a set of tires a bit more quickly.  I'm not saying you 
can't do it, only that you will have accelerated tire wear because you can't 
completely align the car.  I'm sure the problem is less with narrower 
tires, so you might be able to minimize the wear with less aggressive 
tires.  I had 255/50/16 tires when I did the swap.
 
If finances are the 
issue, do the swap now, and budget for a future upgrade to the custom A-Arms 
(and possibly tires).  I max handling is not the concern, use the A-Body 
parts for the swap instead of the F-Body tall spindles and it will be cheaper 
overall.

Brad Waller 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Corvette 
| 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 
Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes

  
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  On Behalf Of Dan McIntoshSent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 
  1:25 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
  I've heard that by using the offset a-arm shafts, you 
  can do the tall spindle swap with only a minimal amount of shimming. 
  
  Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS65 
  Malibu
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Capt 
Crunch 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:01 
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake 
conversion questions

sweet... wish I new that a few weeks ago looking through the junkyard 
as one had disc brakes on it. My own fault for not doing better research I 
guess. I have been debating about how to swap to front discs... been a hard 
to decide whether or not to do the long spindle swap as it will cost a bit 
more since I'd need the Global west arms.
 
Mikey
 

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  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:40 
  AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  brake conversion questions
   
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes, 
  the early Montes are A-body cars. In 1970 the El Camino & Monte Carlo 
  even used the same front bumper.
   
  John 
  Nasta
   
   
   
  -Original 
  Message-
  You can use 
  spindles off a 70-72 monte???

[Chevelle-List] Not starting and related woes

2002-10-29 Thread the . cat

Hey!

So, I have just finished installing a 2004R trans, complete with 
lockup converter and B&M controller, as well as a floor-mounted 
shifter.

Now it won't start.  The solenoid won't even click!  I did bypass the 
stock column-mount neutral and backup light switches - are there any 
tricks I need to know about for those? I identified them using a 
wiring diagram, so I'm sure that I don't have them mixed up.  Do I 
need to use the switeches on the column for anything? I just removed 
the plugs to the wire harness and connected the shifter-mounted 
switches.

However, I turn the key, and the idiot lights go out, but nothing 
happens. I have checked the connections, and they're clean. I even 
hooked up two batteries, and had just charged them both, so I'm sure 
that is ok.

What have I not done?

Thanks,
Dave.
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www.swingvictoria.com

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

Ah, yes Craig but IF you sold it, you'd sell it as a real SS and not a
Malibu clone and get more money for it, right?  There's just the
mystique of the "SS" badging and that's what makes people built their
own fakes, clones, whatever name you wish to use.  Unfortunately, the
same is becoming true of LS-6 cars.  It's the "LS-6" mystique.  People
even promote their cars as LS-6's when it's really (just?) a 454, bored,
rectangle heads, Edelbrock, Holley, MSD, and Hooker equipped.  Where did
the LS-6 portion go?

This mystique in both is what catches the uninformed off guard and the
informed critical of such claims.  I'm quite certain that if the car in
question on eBay was "advertised" as a 454, 4-speed, SS car only, it
would sell easily in the low to mid 20s.  Being an "LS-6", even though
not correct in every respect has gotten someone's fever up to bid over
$35K.  Considering what true, documented, correct LS-6's are going for,
a few cosmetic errors such as incorrect exhaust, valve covers wrong, or
even the power brake booster not plated correctly could easily be
~fixed~ for the additional value potential.

Dale McIntosh
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709
67SS/67 Elky
Dale's Place
Team 67
Midwest Chevelle Regionals


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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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[Chevelle-List] Read Receipts

Hey Rick, do you really want a read receipt from everyone?  I keep
getting prompted that your mail is requesting one.

Dale McIntosh
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709
67SS/67 Elky
Dale's Place
Team 67
Midwest Chevelle Regionals


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Craig,

You have a very good point there.  We all try to look for that
originality
but then we spent mega bucks for repairs over the years and we still
claim
"original".

Sad but true...
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6


> The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
> real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100
bill.
> A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
> cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
> rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
> $40k on a build sheet is beyond me.
>
> More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add
some
> options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes
it
> such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
> and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
> exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I
don't
> have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
> explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
> original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's
be
> real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that
car
> than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
> quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention
springs,
> rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
> pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
> cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
> seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
> But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
> original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.
>
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>
>
> I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
> not a
> copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!
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[Chevelle-List] 1972 MC Frame

2002-10-29 Thread D.R. Jones

I have a 1972 MC frame with orig 350/350 on it. Motor needs rebuild,
trans works good,  needs front & rear seals.  Make offer.

D.R. Jones
Burleson, TX

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Good points. I wasn't sure how the two would be different. But, Your answers
make sense. I'm kind of leaning to more towards the proportioning valve
being somewhat of a culprit now also. I think i might just go over to the
speed shop and pick up an adjustable one. (They are the only ones in town
that carries them and ground up wants $140 for an original one). Besides,
the junkyard one was $45 and whe i called the speed shop, theirs was $59.95.
Not too big a difference and cheaper than original. 


>Brian Zack
>'70 Chevelle Malibu
>mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com


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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


While not having any part numbers for verification, I believe the 
proportioning valve is specifically designed for a particular mass/weight 
distribution/brake size combination.  A camaro would be calibrated 
differently than a chevelle, even though it would mount the same.  This 
would affect brake lock-up points.  YOu could potentially use an adjustible 
valve to account for this, but since you have stock type brakes, you should 
be able to get by with a stock proportioning valve. (unless you've 
significantly changed the rake of the car &/or relative ft/rear tire sizes, 
in which case the adjustible valve might still be a good idea)
I have had both equal and unequal size MC reservoirs for chevy disk brakes 
over the years, so I don't think thats a problem.
Glenn





>From: Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:54:59 -0700
>
>Ok. I did some more reading on Team Chevelle and it looks like the pedal
>should be lower. I still didn't find out if the proportioning valve from 
>the
>camaro was the same or not. Anyone?
>
>Brian Zack
>'70 Chevelle Malibu
>mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John C. Butler [mailto:John@;rogerspoultry.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:06 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
>
>
>Look at the Wilwood website, they have a fantastic Q&A page.
>http://www.wilwood.com/faq.asp
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:53 AM
>To: Chevelle List (E-mail)
>Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
>
>
>Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
>drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
>Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
>rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
>proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
>rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
>junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
>Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
>power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
>bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
>way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
>measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
>cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
>had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
>down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
>So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
>Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
>questions?
>
>Brian Zack
>'70 Chevelle Malibu
>mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread Dan McIntosh




I've heard that by using the offset a-arm shafts, you can 
do the tall spindle swap with only a minimal amount of shimming. 
Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS65 Malibu

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Capt 
  Crunch 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake 
  conversion questions
  
  sweet... wish I new that a few weeks ago looking through the junkyard as 
  one had disc brakes on it. My own fault for not doing better research I guess. 
  I have been debating about how to swap to front discs... been a hard to decide 
  whether or not to do the long spindle swap as it will cost a bit more since 
  I'd need the Global west arms.
   
  Mikey
   
  
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From: 
John Nasta
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:40 
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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conversion questions
 






Yes, 
the early Montes are A-body cars. In 1970 the El Camino & Monte Carlo 
even used the same front bumper.
 
John 
Nasta
 
 
 
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Message-
You 
can use spindles off a 70-72 monte???

RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread GLENN BAILEY

While not having any part numbers for verification, I believe the 
proportioning valve is specifically designed for a particular mass/weight 
distribution/brake size combination.  A camaro would be calibrated 
differently than a chevelle, even though it would mount the same.  This 
would affect brake lock-up points.  YOu could potentially use an adjustible 
valve to account for this, but since you have stock type brakes, you should 
be able to get by with a stock proportioning valve. (unless you've 
significantly changed the rake of the car &/or relative ft/rear tire sizes, 
in which case the adjustible valve might still be a good idea)
I have had both equal and unequal size MC reservoirs for chevy disk brakes 
over the years, so I don't think thats a problem.
Glenn





From: Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:54:59 -0700

Ok. I did some more reading on Team Chevelle and it looks like the pedal
should be lower. I still didn't find out if the proportioning valve from 
the
camaro was the same or not. Anyone?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Look at the Wilwood website, they have a fantastic Q&A page.
http://www.wilwood.com/faq.asp

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame

2002-10-29 Thread Trooper

Tom,
  I'm looking for a good frame. E-mail me off list.

Trooper

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> I have a frame from a 69 6 cylinder car.  Any takers??
> 
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Ok. I did some more reading on Team Chevelle and it looks like the pedal
should be lower. I still didn't find out if the proportioning valve from the
camaro was the same or not. Anyone?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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From: John C. Butler [mailto:John@;rogerspoultry.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:06 AM
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Look at the Wilwood website, they have a fantastic Q&A page.
http://www.wilwood.com/faq.asp

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Dash paint

2002-10-29 Thread Sixty7SS396

Thanks Wayne, your info helps alot.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

2002-10-29 Thread Wayne Kline

Greg I was the one who mentioned the JACK stand problem. You Can use jask
stands if  thay support the car
under the A arms in the front and the rear axle tubes in the rear. The
problem is guys tend to support the car in the cowl area and the frame just
behind the gast tank.
A body cars are FLEXABLE and when supported in this fasion they were not
ment to be for long periods of time , the frame flex becomes memorized.

Wayne
ACES 1556
TCG 186
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> In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
> Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out the old
> SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would prefer to
> put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any problems.
>
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>
>
> I never heard that. Actually what I was referring to was if they were
> going to pull the oil pan while motor was still in car.
> Larry (Z)
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[Chevelle-List] Looking for R46TS plugs

2002-10-29 Thread bdo_chevelle

I'm doing a little experiment with a 350 and need 8 R46TS spark plugs; decent 
used condition will be fine.  If anyone has an unwanted set I'd appreciate an 
off-list email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks!

Brad O.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Dash paint

2002-10-29 Thread Wayne Kline




Bob, it's plastis so more care is needed B-4 
spraying.
If you have no scratches, it becomes a cleaning 
job,  All the years of dirt and cleaner need to be removed. scrub with a 
brush and DAWN detergent and  then when you rinse it off WASH it again. 
also take your  plastic glove box emblem ( if your has one) and prep it the 
same way. 
 I have used argent silver ( rattle can ) in 
tha past. After paying attention to the recoat time,  I then dusted it 
with clear.
It kind of give it that simi gloss 
apperence. 
Then use a Testers hobby  paint pen to detail 
the leters and script.
It's not VCCOA correct but IT 
WORKS.
 
Wayne 

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  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:15 
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  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Dash paint
  I am looking to paint the dash bezel of my 65 Malibu. 
    Is there a special way to prep it?   What is the correct 
  color(s)?   What type of paint should be used, model paint for 
  plastics or regular car paint? Thanks for any help. Bob 
  A.C.E.S. #1164 T. C. #375 65 Malibu 85 El Camino 95 Camaro 
  (totaled R.I.P.)

RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

I thought that it was manual brakes top hole and power brakes bottom hole.
My old manual drum brakes were on the top hole and the angle of the booster
rod seems like it is aimed towards connecting to the bottom. 

Confused 
Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Brian

If you look way up on the top of the pedal post, there are 2 holes for the U

shaped brakcet.  It is supposed to be on the top one.  I made that mistake 
when I pulled the booster off mine top refinish it and then reisntalled it.

I had a hell of a time bleeding it for that reason until I looked up and 
said, oh DUH!!!  If it is on the bottom one it will put the actuator rod on 
an angle and pull the pedal closer to the floor.

Tom

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread John C. Butler

Look at the Wilwood website, they have a fantastic Q&A page.
http://www.wilwood.com/faq.asp

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:53 AM
To: Chevelle List (E-mail)
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread MICRLASER

Brian

If you look way up on the top of the pedal post, there are 2 holes for the U 
shaped brakcet.  It is supposed to be on the top one.  I made that mistake 
when I pulled the booster off mine top refinish it and then reisntalled it.  
I had a hell of a time bleeding it for that reason until I looked up and 
said, oh DUH!!!  If it is on the bottom one it will put the actuator rod on 
an angle and pull the pedal closer to the floor.

Tom

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Anyone run into any of these problems or have any answers from doing your
conversions?




Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com


Also, I have about 3/4" between the pedal to the solid rubber stop for the
pedal. Is that normal?


Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com





-Original Message-
From: Brian Zack 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:53 AM
To: Chevelle List (E-mail)
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame

2002-10-29 Thread MICRLASER

I have a frame from a 69 6 cylinder car.  Any takers??

Tom

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[Chevelle-List] Frame

There was someone looking for a Chevelle/Elky frame some weeks ago on
this list. I stumbled across this on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
 &item=1871304715. I don't need a frame but I could use some of the
other stuff for another project.

<>

[Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions - "Circle Track" A arms?

2002-10-29 Thread Chevelle 69

Title: Message



One of the guys in my car 
club told us about these "circle track" A arms that are only about $100 each. 
They are adjustable, but don't have stops. I am not comfortable with this guy's 
solution of using a chain myself, so I may try to come up with something else. 
That $400 Global West and Hotchkiss wants is more than a cheapskate like me is 
willing to pay. I probably will go with their ball joints & connecting rods 
though. There is only so much "Mickey Mouse" I am willing to do in order to be 
the cheapskate I am. Have to have quality too, that's where I draw the line, 
quality to do the job right and safety.
 
http://groups.msn.com/70MonteCarlo/tallspindle.msnw

Anyone have any experience 
with these?
   
Steve
 

  
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  On Behalf Of Capt CrunchSent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 
  12:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
  sweet... wish I new that a few weeks ago looking through the junkyard as 
  one had disc brakes on it. My own fault for not doing better research I guess. 
  I have been debating about how to swap to front discs... been a hard to decide 
  whether or not to do the long spindle swap as it will cost a bit more since 
  I'd need the Global west arms.
   
  Mikey
   
  
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:40 
AM
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conversion questions
 






Yes, 
the early Montes are A-body cars. In 1970 the El Camino & Monte Carlo 
even used the same front bumper.
 
John 
Nasta
 
 
 
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Message-
You 
can use spindles off a 70-72 monte???

[Chevelle-List] Storing on jackstands

In fact, I think one of the gents on this list mentioned it to me.
Perhaps the suspension sags or something. In any case, I got out the old
SS wheels and intend to bolt them on for the winter. I would prefer to
put it up on stands, though, but don't want to create any problems.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:04 PM
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I never heard that. Actually what I was referring to was if they were
going to pull the oil pan while motor was still in car. 
Larry (Z) 


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount Replacement

2002-10-29 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY

I never heard that. Actually what I was referring to was if they were going to pull the oil pan while motor was still in car.
 Larry (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread Capt Crunch

sweet... wish I new that a few weeks ago looking through the junkyard as one had disc brakes on it. My own fault for not doing better research I guess. I have been debating about how to swap to front discs... been a hard to decide whether or not to do the long spindle swap as it will cost a bit more since I'd need the Global west arms.   Mikey    - Original Message - From: John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions     Yes, the early Montes are A-body cars. In 1970 the El Camino & Monte Carlo even used the same front bumper.   John Nasta       -Original Message- You can use spindles off a 70-72 monte???

RE: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount Replacement

I heard that it is not good to put an A body up on jackstands for the
winter? Is that so???

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May I just ad a couple of little items? Please disconnect battery, block
car tires and make sure any supports holding car up are secure. I really
would like to see all of us next spring talking about how great their
car is running. 
Larry
(Z) 

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Also, I have about 3/4" between the pedal to the solid rubber stop for the
pedal. Is that normal?


Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com





-Original Message-
From: Brian Zack 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:53 AM
To: Chevelle List (E-mail)
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions


Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Dash paint

2002-10-29 Thread Richard Milkiewicz




Bob, you want to use a lacquer paint for you 
interior plastic. Wash in mild soap. If you can, soak it overnight first in 
soapy water, then wash and rinse really good. You should also use a good 
wax and grease remover just before painting. You can buy the paint at an auto 
paint store in pints, quarts. Or you can get it in a spray can from any of the 
restoration places. All the paint shops should have a catalog
with the paint codes by year. Also anyone 
interested in painting their frame, brackets, engine bay, etc. check this site 
out.
 http://home.c2i.net/terjekl/paintinfo.htm
and page 2,
http://home.c2i.net/terjekl/paintinfo2.htm
Found this site with links to other sites. It may 
be helpful to some.
http://www.55-57chevys.com/coccc/links/pbody.html
I know, I know, '55 - '57 Chevy's. It's more than 
that.
Rich"66 MalibuACES # 
5066
 

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  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:15 
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  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Dash paint
  I am looking to paint the dash bezel of my 65 Malibu. 
    Is there a special way to prep it?   What is the correct 
  color(s)?   What type of paint should be used, model paint for 
  plastics or regular car paint? Thanks for any help. Bob 
  A.C.E.S. #1164 T. C. #375 65 Malibu 85 El Camino 95 Camaro 
  (totaled R.I.P.)

RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread John Nasta









That's correct.

 

John Nasta

 

 

-Original
Message-



I believe they shared the same trunk lid too from 68-72. 
Larry
(Z)

Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY

I believe they shared the same trunk lid too from 68-72.
 Larry (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount Replacement

2002-10-29 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY

May I just ad a couple of little items? Please disconnect battery, block car tires and make sure any supports holding car up are secure. I really would like to see all of us next spring talking about how great their car is running.
 Larry (Z)

RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)

believe it or not i haven't taken any yet.maybe in the snow???

-Original Message-
From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:Craig@;neagroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:40 AM
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Hey, Joe - where are those pics?? BTW, did you look at the 68 Camaro
on our website? Just fyi - that's an 11 second Camaro. It is
exceptionally nice.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:06 AM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

Craig-you seem to be venting this morning...life ok?
later,
Joseph Rozanski
Sr. Designer
Design and Development
ROBERT BOSCH CORPORATION
Phone:(248)553-1495
Fax:(248)848-2991
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:51 AM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread Krister Meister


"original" is a tough word - in the true sense it's something that was been
untouched since it was made.  A more forgiving term "restored to original"
leaves the opportunity refurbish to maintain the original look.  Taking
something and modifying to look like something else is our familiar "clone"
term or replica.  Some people are fine with this - it's a knock off of the
real thing, but passing it off as the real thing is where the problem lies.
There is a certain value to knowing "this is what it looked like when it
rolled off the line".  An entire Model A can be built out of a catalog, but
it wouldn't  be right to call it a "survivor"?.

Back to point - to many people get screwed by misrepresented cars.


Krister Meister
Bartlett, IL
'66 SS #'s matching




   
 
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Craig,

You have a very good point there.  We all try to look for that originality
but then we spent mega bucks for repairs over the years and we still claim
"original".

Sad but true...
- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:50 AM
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> The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
> real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
> A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
> cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
> rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
> $40k on a build sheet is beyond me.
>
> More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
> options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
> such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
> and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
> exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
> have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
> explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
> original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
> real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
> than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
> quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
> rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
> pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
> cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
> seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
> But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
> original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
> not a
> copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

Hey, Joe - where are those pics?? BTW, did you look at the 68 Camaro
on our website? Just fyi - that's an 11 second Camaro. It is
exceptionally nice.

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Craig-you seem to be venting this morning...life ok?
later,
Joseph Rozanski
Sr. Designer
Design and Development
ROBERT BOSCH CORPORATION
Phone:(248)553-1495
Fax:(248)848-2991
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:Craig@;neagroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread John Nasta









Yes, the
early Montes are A-body cars. In 1970 the El Camino & Monte Carlo even used
the same front bumper.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 

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Message-



You
can use spindles off a 70-72 monte???

RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

LOL! Yeah, life is grand. You're right - I'm must be venting a bit! I
had a 66 goat when I was in HS. Back then, NOBODY left them original.
The whole point in owning one was to goose it somehow. The only guys
that left them untouched were the posers. Heck, the idea that GM built
it correctly in the first place was like an affront to one's manhood or
something! And, yes, I used to cut dashes, too. And put wheel lip flares
on 67 vettes. I suppose I'll have to change my phone number now...

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Craig-you seem to be venting this morning...life ok?
later,
Joseph Rozanski
Sr. Designer
Design and Development
ROBERT BOSCH CORPORATION
Phone:(248)553-1495
Fax:(248)848-2991
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:Craig@;neagroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6


The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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RE: [Chevelle-List] swap meet

2002-10-29 Thread Wurzbacher, Lance




Pomona 
is on December 8th I believe.  They have a website if you want to be 
positive.
 
Lance
-Original Message-From: aztechsteel 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:40 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
[Chevelle-List] swap meet

Speaking 
of swap meets, does anyone know when the next Pomona, CA. & Glendale, AZ 
swap meets are?
 
JOE 
BANKS
AZTECH 
TOOL CO.
AZTECH 
MOLD & DIE STEEL
602-257-2300
 
 
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Behalf Of Dan McIntoshSent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:07 
AMTo: 
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meet
 
Howdy 
all,
I went to 
a swap meet in Medina, Ohio today and found nothing that I was looking for. 
Is it just to late in the season to find parts, or is all of the decent stuff on 
Ebay nowadays?
I did 
however find about 6 of the 2002 Hot Wheels I needed.
Take it 
easy.
Dan 
McIntosh64 Impala SS65 Malibu

RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions




Yep.
 
Brian Zack'70 Chevelle 
Malibumailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


  -Original Message-From: Capt Crunch 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 
  8:20 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions
  You can use spindles off a 70-72 monte???
   
  
- Original Message -
From: 
Brian Zack
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:53 
AM
To: Chevelle List (E-mail)
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake 
conversion questions
 Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc 
brakes from manualdrums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the 
replaceables as cores.Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, 
seals and rotors. Alsorebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I 
tried to get theproportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the 
brake line to therears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound 
up going to the onlyjunkyard in town who said they had one and it wound 
up being from a camaro.Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all 
installed, I hooked thepower booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake 
pedal and it sits quite abit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust 
the brake light switch all theway in so it would contact the pedal. Is 
this too far down? I haventmeasured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" 
of travel. Also, the mastercylinder they sold me has equal sized 
resevoirs. I thought most I've seenhad the larger front resevoir and 
smaller rear one. When I stop it slowsdown with normal pressure and then 
seems to really grab at a certain point.So I have to be real careful as 
to not put myself through the windshield.Could be just needing more 
bleeding? any other thoughts an any of thequestions?Brian 
Zack'70 Chevelle 
Malibumailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]-To 
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RE: [Chevelle-List] swap meet

2002-10-29 Thread aztechsteel










Speaking
of swap meets, does anyone know when the next Pomona, CA. & Glendale, AZ
swap meets are?

 

JOE BANKS

AZTECH
TOOL CO.

AZTECH
MOLD & DIE STEEL

602-257-2300

 

 

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Subject: [Chevelle-List] swap meet

 

Howdy
all,

I went
to a swap meet in Medina, Ohio today and found nothing that I was looking
for. Is it just to late in the season to find parts, or is all of the decent
stuff on Ebay nowadays?

I did
however find about 6 of the 2002 Hot Wheels I needed.

Take it
easy.

Dan
McIntosh
64 Impala SS
65 Malibu

Re: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

2002-10-29 Thread Capt Crunch

You can use spindles off a 70-72 monte??? - Original Message - From: Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:53 AM To: Chevelle List (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manualdrums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Alsorebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get theproportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to therears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the onlyjunkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked thepower booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite abit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all theway in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I haventmeasured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the mastercylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seenhad the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slowsdown with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of thequestions?Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibumailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Chevelle-List] Dash paint

2002-10-29 Thread Sixty7SS396

I am looking to paint the dash bezel of my 65 Malibu.  
Is there a special way to prep it?  
What is the correct color(s)?  
What type of paint should be used, model paint for plastics or regular car paint?
Thanks for any help.

Bob
A.C.E.S. #1164
T. C. #375
65 Malibu
85 El Camino
95 Camaro (totaled R.I.P.)

RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)

Craig-you seem to be venting this morning...life ok?
later,
Joseph Rozanski
Sr. Designer
Design and Development
ROBERT BOSCH CORPORATION
Phone:(248)553-1495
Fax:(248)848-2991
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6


The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread rick

Craig,

You have a very good point there.  We all try to look for that originality
but then we spent mega bucks for repairs over the years and we still claim
"original".

Sad but true...
- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6


> The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
> real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
> A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
> cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
> rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
> $40k on a build sheet is beyond me.
>
> More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
> options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
> such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
> and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
> exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
> have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
> explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
> original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
> real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
> than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
> quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
> rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
> pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
> cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
> seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
> But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
> original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
> not a
> copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!
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[Chevelle-List] Disc brake conversion questions

Ok. Did my conversion this last weekend to power disc brakes from manual
drums. Got the setup from a 70-72 Monte. I used the replaceables as cores.
Got new master cylinder, brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors. Also
rebuilt loaded calipers and power booster. When I tried to get the
proportioning valve off the doner, I just had to cut the brake line to the
rears and I could never get the line off. So, I wound up going to the only
junkyard in town who said they had one and it wound up being from a camaro.
Looked the same. Is it? Next, When I had it all installed, I hooked the
power booster rod in the bottom hole on the brake pedal and it sits quite a
bit closer to the floor. and I had to adjust the brake light switch all the
way in so it would contact the pedal. Is this too far down? I havent
measured, but I think it has about 2 - 2 1/2" of travel. Also, the master
cylinder they sold me has equal sized resevoirs. I thought most I've seen
had the larger front resevoir and smaller rear one. When I stop it slows
down with normal pressure and then seems to really grab at a certain point.
So I have to be real careful as to not put myself through the windshield.
Could be just needing more bleeding? any other thoughts an any of the
questions?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com




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RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

The point I was making is that I don't think you can tell whether it's
real or not. It's possible to forge a Guttenberg bible and a $100 bill.
A build sheet would seem child's play. I mean, you can buy VIN tags,
cowl tags, and even the little tape wrap that they used to put on your
rear axle - and you can't tell it from the real thing. Why people bet
$40k on a build sheet is beyond me.

More to the point - all that GM did to create an SS in 1970 was add some
options - like adding the DVD player to my wife's minivan. What makes it
such a bad thing to do so today? Why NOT just take an ordinary Malibu
and turn it into an SS. The end result is exactly the same - 100%
exactly the same - except in the mind of the owner. Personally, I don't
have a problem with this. Moreover, I don't think anyone needs to
explain that that is what they did. I am pretty sure my car is an
original SS because I have the VIN data from GM in Canada. But let's be
real - I'm in Michigan and there are more non-original parts on that car
than you can shake a stick at. Fenders, inner fenders, door skins,
quarter panels - even the HOOD for pete's sake. Not to mention springs,
rotors, axle shafts, rear end gears, exhaust, radiator, alternator, AC
pump, seat covers, shocks, bushings, tie rods, tires, wheels, pistons,
cam, rockers, carb, valves, clutch, driveshaft. The whole stupid car
seems to have been replaced (and I've got the receipts to prove it).
But, when I dump the clutch at 4k, I can't tell if those parts are
original or not - too much tire smoke to see clearly.

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I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And
not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Distributor Timing

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Cooper




Rich,
  The car is a 71 Chevelle Malibu 350 4 barrel. The 
motor has a small camshaft, 262H from Crane, Hooker Competition Headers, stock 
automatic transmission and 2.5 ratio stock rear end.  I have the Edelbrock 
performer intake and Edelbrock 600cc carb. The ignition is a stock HEI. Present 
timing is set a 8 degrees. 
Keith Cooper

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  From: 
  Richard 
  Milkiewicz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:45 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Distributor 
  Timing
  
  Keith, need more info. What engine, what was done 
  to the motor? Ignition? What car? Several things affect dist. 
  advance.
  Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066
   
  
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From: 
Keith 
Cooper 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:25 
AM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Distributor 
Timing

I posted this once and no one bite on it, so I thought 
I would try one more time.
 
At what RPM should the timing start advancing? 
(900,1200,1400RPM)
At what RPM should it reach when it hits Total 
advance? (Total advanced reached at 2000RPM??)
How much total advance should I have?
 
I am wanting to play with the weights and springs in 
the distributor and l am looking for some guide lines. I was going to hook 
up a RPM meter and the timing light to see the effects of different weights 
and springs. I think that my distributor is advancing way too 
soon.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Distributor Timing

2002-10-29 Thread Richard Milkiewicz




Keith, need more info. What engine, what was done 
to the motor? Ignition? What car? Several things affect dist. 
advance.
Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066
 

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  From: 
  Keith 
  Cooper 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:25 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Distributor 
  Timing
  
  I posted this once and no one bite on it, so I thought I 
  would try one more time.
   
  At what RPM should the timing start advancing? 
  (900,1200,1400RPM)
  At what RPM should it reach when it hits Total advance? 
  (Total advanced reached at 2000RPM??)
  How much total advance should I have?
   
  I am wanting to play with the weights and springs in the 
  distributor and l am looking for some guide lines. I was going to hook up a 
  RPM meter and the timing light to see the effects of different weights and 
  springs. I think that my distributor is advancing way too soon.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread ChevelleYenko

I don't think I would buy a LS6 without the original build sheet. And not a 
copy of a build sheet it better be real 1970 paper!

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount Replacement










Replacing only the mounts should be easy
enough.  Follow Haynes advice so
nothing gets broken when you jack up the engine.  The headers may not have to come out but
may need to be undone to get the desired movement when the engine is raised.  Trans mount or shifter shouldn’t be
a problem.  I’ve used a 2x4
block under the pan to jack the engine up to change mounts before.  If you can get it up enough to insert
another 2x4 block between the engine and the frame for added security while
changing the mount, all the better. 
Sometimes it’s easier to remove the tire/wheel and get to the
mount through the fenderwell – depends on the
car naturally.

 

Replacing the pan might be a bit more
effort as you’d have to (1) get the crank indexed so the balancer mark is
at the 6 o’clock position, (2) jack the engine up via the balancer with 3”
clearance between pan and crossmember, (3) remove
fuel pump, (4) still have very little room to replace the pan without
disturbing the gaskets.  It can be
done according to my Chilton’s.

 



Dale McIntosh

TC Gold #92/ACES #1709

67SS/67 Elky

Dale's Place

Team 67

Midwest Chevelle
Regionals



 

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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002
6:40 PM
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Motor
Mount Replacement

 



While putting away my Malibu for
the winter, I noticed one of the motor mounts looked to be cracked. The oil pan
has also been dented from the previous owner, so I thought I would do some
repairs this winter.





 





My question is, how hard is it to
raise the engine to get at the mounts and oil pan?





 





The car is a '71 Malibu 350 with 4
speed Shaginaw and Hooker headers which I use as a daily driver in the summer.
The Haynes manual says to take the distributor cap off, the fan shroud, exhaust
cross over (which for me means the headers I assume), dust cover and starter
motor. It makes no mention of disconnecting the rear motor/transmission mount.
Does this have to be disconnected? Will I have problems with the shifter and/or
transmission clearance? Is it safe to jack the engine from underneath if I'm
careful not to dent the new oil pan? Are NAPA motor mounts ok?





 





Any tips for a novice Chevelle
mechanic much appreciated.





 





Tom Tomlinson





'71 Malibu





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Re: [Chevelle-List] Motor Mount /winter project

Tom
If you are putting the car away for the winter...have you thought about a 
winter project? If you pull the motor, its really easy to fix the oil pan and 
motor mounts, but its also a great time to clean/paint the engine and the 
engine compartment and to replace the motor mounts and anything else while 
you are there. Its a messy job, but looks great after. 

I would also recommend getting help from someone who has done this BEFORE you 
start...just thinking out loud

Bill C
Ct

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Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale

Dan
Nice carboy its a PITA when you gotta do something like this. Maybe a 
good friend will buy her and she won't be far away!

Bill C
Ct

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

I've had my 70 LS6 since 1972 I and I'm amased at how few LS6 I come across 
and the few that are "LS6" are " well it used to be"... or ..."crate 
engine"... or I think it is because its a big blocketc. 

In 1973 when I got married, I tried to trade it in for a new "family" type 
carThank God it was during the "gas crisis" and as soon as the salesman 
saw it he laughed and said he could only give me a few hundred for it. It was 
a good enough excuse for me to keep the beast 'cause I kinda felt that it 
might be worth something some day.

Now there must be 10,000 LS6 running aroundthey are all over the 
place...so buyer be ware does apply.

Bill C

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Cruise Control Sending Unit

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Cooper




What part of the cruise control are you calling the 
sending unit??  I have never heard of a sending unit on a cruise control. 
You have the brake sensor, the computer, the vacuum unit and the pickup in a 
cruise control unit.
Keith Cooper

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  Rusty 
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  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:46 
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  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Cruise Control 
  Sending Unit
  
  
  I have been beating my head 
  against the wall trying to find a cruise control sending unit for my 69 
  Chevelle.
  The rumors in the wind told me 
  that I could only use a sending unit specifically for 69 chevelles. The 
  others wouldnt work/fit??
  Does anyone know if that is 
  true??
   
  Crazy 
  Rusty
  1969 
  Chevelle
  www.crazyrusty.com
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[Chevelle-List] Distributor Timing

2002-10-29 Thread Keith Cooper




I posted this once and no one bite on it, so I thought I 
would try one more time.
 
At what RPM should the timing start advancing? 
(900,1200,1400RPM)
At what RPM should it reach when it hits Total advance? 
(Total advanced reached at 2000RPM??)
How much total advance should I have?
 
I am wanting to play with the weights and springs in the 
distributor and l am looking for some guide lines. I was going to hook up a RPM 
meter and the timing light to see the effects of different weights and springs. 
I think that my distributor is advancing way too soon.

Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

Man you got good eyes! I'd never see all that in these small pictures; 
must be my age.

Bill C
Ct
70 LS6

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6

2002-10-29 Thread rocky hill

Go ahead and keep telling yourself that!


Rocky Hill





--- Crazy Rusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I know with the 64-70 chevelle's it also depended on
> what quarter of the
> year the car was manufactored in.  For instance, my
> 69 came with a SS
> hood from the factory but is not an SS because they
> had an excess of SS
> hoods.  If they were out of one part and it was too
> close to EOY, they
> would just slap on something else.  I don't think
> that 70SS is original
> though.
> 
> JB
> 69 Chev Mali
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net] On Behalf
> Of Dale McIntosh
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> Either the valve covers have been switched or
> someone put a sticker on
> the drivers side.  Agree that the engine paint looks
> a little too nice
> to be a survivor unless the engine was warranteed
> just before the
> pictures were taken.
> 
> Dale McIntosh
> TC Gold #92/ACES #1709
> 67SS/67 Elky
> Dale's Place
> Team 67
> Midwest Chevelle Regionals
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Of Brad Waller
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:06 PM
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> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Another Ebay LS6
> > 
> > 1.  Amber Turn Signal Lenses
> > 2.  Small block fan shroud
> > 3.  Paint is a bit shiney for factory and being 32
> years old at that
> > 4.  wrong upper radiator hose
> > 5.  Power Booster is painted black
> > 6.  No smog crap on it
> > 
> > I am sure I can find more.  It's a nice car, but
> to be 
> > "unmolested" and a "survivor"  I think not
> 
> Yeah, but it has a "numbers matching" CE replacement
> block...
> 
> Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes
> | 245/45/16 BFGs
> '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body
> Brakes
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale




Dan, I asked my wife if I could have your car and she said 
no.  Go figure!
cYa-
 
Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  McIntosh 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is 
  for sale
  
  Fellas, 
  I relisted it. I think that was a 40 dollar 
  mistake. Oh well, happens I guess. I couldn't find a way to change the listing 
  title, so I had to end the auction and then relist. 
  Here's the new addy-- 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871437665 
  
   
  Thanks 
  Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS65 
  Malibu
  
 
 
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:33 
PM
Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-List] My car is 
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 Dan the main listing is under 
Impala
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From: Dan McIntosh 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale

Howdy Fellas,
    Well, I've decided to sell 
the 65 Malibu. I just cant support 2 cars. I've listed it on Ebay 
today. If anyone has any ideas on how or if I should change the listing at 
all, please let me know. This is my first attempt at listing anything on 
Ebay, I hope I did ok. Here is the addy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871429975
Thanks, and take it easy.
Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS65 
Malibu

Re: [Chevelle-List] Cruise Control Sending Unit




If you just want cruise control and aren't worried about being "correct" 
then check out Dakota Digital's cruise control...
 
http://www.dakotadigital.com/products.cfm?Category=114
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Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Rusty 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:46 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Cruise Control 
  Sending Unit
  
  
  I have been beating my head 
  against the wall trying to find a cruise control sending unit for my 69 
  Chevelle.
  The rumors in the wind told me 
  that I could only use a sending unit specifically for 69 chevelles. The 
  others wouldnt work/fit??
  Does anyone know if that is 
  true??
   
  Crazy 
  Rusty
  1969 
  Chevelle
  www.crazyrusty.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Chevelle-List] My car is for sale