RE: [Chevelle-list] Car show tips
Hi Bill, If your car was just painted you should wait at least a few weeks before putting wax on it. I don't know all the details for this, but it has something to do with the chemicals in the paint needing to evaporate before wax is applied. Personally, I like Mother's and The Wax Shop products. As for info about your car, that's totally up to you. If you've put a lot of work into it and have before and during pictures, I've noticed a lot of people seem to enjoy looking at them. After they look at the pictures, they check the car out and then look at the pictures some more. When they get done they usually walk away shaking their head with a smile on their face. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Car show tips I'm taking the Chevelle to a car show this Saturday was wondering if you could give me some tips about prepping the car. It's at the body shop getting buffed out, I'll wax shine it before I go to the show. I've heard good things about Liquid Glass and Meguro's Gold Class products--any ideas on these? I'll be driving the car about 20 miles to the show, so it'll need some work when I get there. I have a California Car Duster that I use my the daily drivers, but is this good to use on the Chevelle or do I need to get something else? Any and all advice is welcome, this is the first car show that I have ever attended as a participant, so I need a little help. Do I need to print up some stuff about the car show it in a binder, or does that kind of thing matter? The show is sponsored by the local Pontiac club. There are a bunch of Pontiac classes, but I'll be in the 1960~1969 all cars group. Thanks, BL 1968 Chevelle SS396
[Chevelle-list] GAP Commercial
Anyone notice a GAP commercial currently running on network TV. It has 2 quick glimpses of a metalic tan or metalic medium brown 70 Chevelle at the beginning middle. The two main Hotties in their GAP jeans stuff didn't hurt the ad either but I wanted to see the car again. Didn't happen. Oh well. I'll just have to settle for the Hotties. Phil G. 65 SS MCC#36 ACES#555 TC#1766 LGC VCCA AMCA
Re: [Chevelle-list] GAP Commercial
Yes Phil.. I too noticed the Chevelle in the background.. It's a Sad day, But I have to admit I was more interested in getting another glimpse at the Chevelle again ! It's tough getting OLD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:40 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] GAP Commercial Anyone notice a GAP commercial currently running on network TV. It has 2 quick glimpses of a metalic tan or metalic medium brown 70 Chevelle at the beginning middle. The two main Hotties in their GAP jeans stuff didn't hurt the ad either but I wanted to see the car again. Didn't happen. Oh well. I'll just have to settle for the Hotties. Phil G. 65 SS MCC#36 ACES#555 TC#1766 LGC VCCA AMCA
Re: [Chevelle-list] the waiting... POWER RESTORED!
I can't emphasize the Importance of disconnecting the " Main Power Breaker" with the manual Gen switch set up I have a Card attached to my Back Feed gen, cord. and a quick B-4 you plug in list of actions i.e 1st. Mainbreaker 200amp ,2nd all single and dual breakers To figure out your Load.. to your Generator is vary simple. The Formulas is P =IE where P = Power in watts. I = Current in amps and E = voltage.. example your water pump is 220v at 6 amp = 1320 watts your refrig. is 110 v at 9 amps = 990 watts your light lamp load is simple there marked in watts you now can figure out your Emergency back feed load plan for you Home. Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] the waiting... POWER RESTORED! Donnie, It is a 5,000 watt generator. I have a 240 volt 50 amp outlet in my garage for my air compressor. I turn off the main feed and all breakers at the electric box so that there is no chance of power coming to the house from the power company. Then you plug a male to male cord from the 240 outlet of the generator to the 240 outlet in the garage. Then you start the generator, go to your electric box and start turning on the breakers that you want to use. I don't turn all of the breakers on but the ones that I want to use the most. I turn on the water pump, refrigerator, range, bathrooms, Big TV Screen (LOL) , computer and lights throughout the house. At some point the generator will start to strain. You will know it is when the motor starts to bog down. If this happens you have to much on in the house and adjust what is on accordingly. If you would like to know more feel free to email me. Ken
[Chevelle-list] side mirror lettering
Thought this was a neat idea ! If you follow the thread, costs $5 and you get 4 custom messages. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=002576 Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 ACES #5102
Re: [Chevelle-list] GAP Commercial
Also, In a E-bay commercial, the one with the heavy set woman singing, there is a 68-72 Chevelle in it. Its black, with white racing stripesyou can only see the top of it for a split second, and its at the very very end of the commercial
RE: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill
Thanks Diane, For some reason I didn't see this reply until searching the list archives. So, I guess the '72 SS had only the upper lower moldings? I just did some searching around and it seems that the center was blacked out (no center moldings) on the SS. For some odd reason, the OPG catalog says that the SS grill package comes with three moldings. Two or four would make sense to me, but not three. John Nasta From: Diane Peppin Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:51:45 -0700 John, actually I thought the SS only had 2... :-Diane From: John Nasta Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 07:59:51 -0700 Is it true that in 1972 the standard Chevelle had 4 horizontal grill moldings and the SS only had 3? Seems weird to me. Thanks, John Nasta
Re: [Chevelle-list] Car show tips
Just remember, what ever you use, make sure the car is clean on the inside too and your tires are nice and new looking, white letters are really white and your engine is freshly painted looking (all hose clamps are the same and tight) Decals, air cleaner and service decals are new and in the right place. Clean, clean, clean..
[Chevelle-list] Pelle's site
Title: Message Man, I figured more members would post pics to your site. Kind of a bummer that people don't want to showcase thier rides on your site. C'mon guys/gals, let's get those pictures posted. I know alot of you have your own websites, but many don't. Not to mention, it would be pretty cool, to have everyones ride centrally located on one page for everyone to enjoy. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: Pelle Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:53 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT - Latest Virus Attack Is it possible thatone of these little buggers have slipped thru u'r firewalland Antivirus but it can't get out, due to later upgrades of firewall? Run a full system scan if you haven't already done that! http://members.chello.se/gearheads/Best regardsPelle Andersson
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
Hey listers, I'm actually thinking of swapping my engine for a non-matching #'s one but I didn't want you guys to rag on me that much. But, It has come to my attention that I don't have the money or means to purchase an engine. So I'm going to try to swap mine but I dunno what it entails. I have a 1970 4 Door Chevelle Malibu with .307 original, 2barrel carb, and powerglide trans. 1. Car stalled on me (going to work, late, thinking, "I'll wait for gas" - When I got gas, it still wouldn't start) 2. Had someone check out my car who told me to leave key in on position -- the large wire from coil to firewall burned. 3. Had someone fix the burned wire and my car was up and running... 4. Same day it got fixed, I'm heading home and it cuts off on freeway. 5. Same guy who fixed wire earlier that day said, now I needed a timing chain. 6.I took the front off the motor this summer to replaced my timing chain - (actually top crank had teeth eaten so badly chain would just slip over it) 7. I put it together and started it up -- It Starts!! But every other turn of the engine resulted in gas spitting from carb (if your car running sounded like rm,rm,rm,rm,rm,rm... Mine sounded like rm, rm., rm, spit (gas from carb), rm, rm, rm, spit..) 8. So I came to you guys and someone said my time was off 180 degrees. 9. Got mechanic to turn carb 180 degrees -- wouldn't start and wouldn't run properly 10. Heard it could be bent valve, rocker arm, or something but that's another $500 or more job. 11. I have a 76 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with a 350 that I had rebuilt 2 years ago w/cam, new carb-and the darn trans when out a week later 12. I want to swap engines -- no need to have a rebuilt engine connected to fried trans and fried engine connect to 4 year old rebuilt original powerglide. Fellow listers... apologies for the long message but I needed you to know just about everything so that you can give me your honest opinion. What should I do? Will it be an all winter project or fairly simple? Thank you in advance for your opinions, Charles Charles Campbell Detroit, MI '70 Chevelle Malibu, 4dr., .307, powerglide All original except wheels, stereo paint (which I want back original)
RE: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
snip 8. So I came to you guys and someone said my time was off 180 degrees. 9. Got mechanic to turn carb 180 degrees -- wouldn't start and wouldn't run properly 10. Heard it could be bent valve, rocker arm, or something but that's another $500 or more job. 11. I have a 76 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with a 350 that I had rebuilt 2 years ago w/cam, new carb-and the darn trans when out a week later 12. I want to swap engines -- no need to have a rebuilt engine connected to fried trans and fried engine connect to 4 year old rebuilt original powerglide. Opinions on engine swaps are about as good as opinions on paint schemes, everyone will be different. At any rate, here's my opinion. First, don't go to mechanics that will turn your carb 180 degrees. Nobody will blame you for replacing a 307. Engine swaps in general are PITA's mostly because of the overlooked details. The main one is bracket mounts for accessories. If your 307 has mounting holes in front of the heads, and your replacement engine also doesyou are 90% there, as the rest is just grunt work. If not, then you have to find, buy, fabricate brackets to hold your alt, PS pump, AC, etc and is very difficult to get it to look good without spending loads of cash. Now for the replacement. I am not an expert on Olds 350's, but I am fairly sure they are different than Chevy 350's. I'm sure you cannot swap heads or intakes between the two, so that would make me think twice before swapping it and finding out what else doesn't fit. You need to check with someone who knows for sure. I have seen on various web pages descriptions of 307s being bored to 377 with a stroker kit. I never looked further into it and don't know who has this stroker kit but it sounds promising. That would make the 'swap' alot easier. A night searching the internet should find something. Also remember, swapping your engine will put stress on your stock tranny that it's not used to. Hope this helps Hoss Charles Campbell Detroit, MI '70 Chevelle Malibu, 4dr., .307, powerglide All original except wheels, stereo paint (which I want back original) ___ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc.
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
Thank Hoss, That info was very informative. I didn't think of the brackets, I thought that since maybe I was transferring whole engines ... meaning I'm not taking anything off that's unnecessary, that it might be easier. But your saying that even though I would transfer the engine, alt, carb, distributor, and everything else that came from the Olds engine to the Chevelle, it still may not fit in the engine compartment correct? I kinda wanted the new 4barrel and everything else connected to the 350, though I bought a 4 barrel intake for my 307 about 1 1/2 yrs ago and never put it on. Again thanks for the info. I'll try to find out more specs on the 350 maybe that could help too! Anymore suggestions? Thanx Hoss, Charles PS. I wrote down your concerns like mounting holes and I'll check on'em immediately. I'm sorry, it was the distributor that he turned not the carb. I'm not too good with auto mechanic and sometimes get confused but gimme a PC and I'll show you something :) C. Campbell - Detroit, MI. '70 Chevelle Malibu 4 dr., 307 Detroit Chevelle Club email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-list] Car show tips
Hey,BLJUST GO TO THE CAR SHOW, AND RELAX MAN,,,DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS THAT SPEND THE WHOLE DAY PREPPING,,AND SUDDENLY LOOKS AROUND to SEE EVERYBODY HAS GONE HOME - Original Message - From: Bill Lessenberry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:52 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Car show tips I'm taking the Chevelle to a car show this Saturday was wondering if you could give me some tips about prepping the car. It's at the body shop getting buffed out, I'll wax shine it before I go to the show. I've heard good things about Liquid Glass and Meguro's Gold Class products--any ideas on these? I'll be driving the car about 20 miles to the show, so it'll need some work when I get there. I have a California Car Duster that I use my the daily drivers, but is this good to use on the Chevelle or do I need to get something else? Any and all advice is welcome, this is the first car show that I have ever attended as a participant, so I need a little help. Do I need to print up some stuff about the car show it in a binder, or does that kind of thing matter? The show is sponsored by the local Pontiac club. There are a bunch of Pontiac classes, but I'll be in the 1960~1969 all cars group. Thanks, BL 1968 Chevelle SS396
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
I'm hardly an expert on engine swaps, but I might be able to help with some things. Chevy and BOP-C (Buick Olds Pontiac=Cadillac) blocks have different transmission mounting holes. Some transmissions (TH200-4R, for example) have a dual-pattern bellhousing, one that is drilled for either bolt pattern, but some transmissions are for one or the other. Call a trans shop in your area and ask them how to tell the difference - I believe the Chevy trans-to-block bolt bosses are closer together than those for a BOP-C trans. Don't take this as gospel truth, but I do think that the 350 would fit on your 70 with little or no modifications. IIRC, the same frame was used for all A-body cars (excepting wagons and El Caminos) in any model year. Thus your frame may have mounting holes already drilled in it for an Olds motor mount. Unless the Olds block is exceptionally tall or wide, it should physically fit in your engine compartment. Your accessories (alternator, power steering, A/C) may not be in the same locations as on the Chevy block, so longer wires/hoses etc. may be needed to connect them up to the Olds accessories locations. Your carb may fit on both intakes - measuring the dimensions of the bases and the distances between the mounting bolts should tell you. If it does fit, though, it may not have a high enough CFM rating (cubic feet per minute, a measure of flow through the carb) for the larger demands of the 350. Does anyone have the formula for CFM ratings to hand? I hope this helps, Dave. wrote: Thank Hoss, That info was very informative. I didn't think of the brackets, I thought that since maybe I was transferring whole engines ... meaning I'm not taking anything off that's unnecessary, that it might be easier. But your saying that even though I would transfer the engine, alt, carb, distributor, and everything else that came from the Olds engine to the Chevelle, it still may not fit in the engine compartment correct? I kinda wanted the new 4barrel and everything else connected to the 350, though I bought a 4 barrel intake for my 307 about 1 1/2 yrs ago and never put it on. Again thanks for the info. I'll try to find out more specs on the 350 maybe that could help too! Anymore suggestions? Thanx Hoss, Charles PS. I wrote down your concerns like mounting holes and I'll check on'em immediately. I'm sorry, it was the distributor that he turned not the carb. I'm not too good with auto mechanic and sometimes get confused but gimme a PC and I'll show you something :) -- www.swingvictoria.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
Thank You also Dave, I saved your email and I will check on you and Hoss's questions and concerns... Thank you for the help. Will let you know what happens and what I find out... Later Guys/Gals Charles C. Campbell - Detroit, MI. '70 Chevelle Malibu 4 dr., 307 Detroit Chevelle Club email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site
Title: Message Sgt. I just sent Pelle a few shots of my Elky. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBS To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site Man, I figured more members would post pics to your site. Kind of a bummer that people don't want to showcase thier rides on your site. C'mon guys/gals, let's get those pictures posted. I know alot of you have your own websites, but many don't. Not to mention, it would be pretty cool, to have everyones ride centrally located on one page for everyone to enjoy. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: Pelle Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:53 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT - Latest Virus Attack Is it possible thatone of these little buggers have slipped thru u'r firewalland Antivirus but it can't get out, due to later upgrades of firewall? Run a full system scan if you haven't already done that! http://members.chello.se/gearheads/Best regardsPelle Andersson
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap
I suspect I've fallen into every engine-swap trap in the history of GM. In addition to the brackets and motor mounts issues mentioned previously here's the ones I remember slapping my forehead over: Check that throttle linkage is compatible, that the kick-down rod or cable still fits, that the transmission coolant lines will clear the new block, that the positive battery cable will reach the starter and stay off your exhaust manifold and pipe (fire sucks), that the wiring (warning lights, gauges, distributor etc) will reach and connect, that the power steering pump will clear the frame (or will match to the other block if you choose to leave your Chevelle's in place), that you have radiator and heater hoses that fit, that your exhaust manifolds will bolt up to the exhaust pipes and, if you keep your Olds alternator, that it's the same type (internal or external regulator) as the one on the Chevelle block. Maybe for a '70 that won't be an issue. Also, if you change intake manifolds and/or valve covers, make sure one or the other still has an oil filler hole - that was my all-time favourite gaffe. I've made all these errors, and more I can't remember. And, when you slap your forehead and say Doh! make sure you haven't got a 9/16s wrench in your hand (ouch!). BTW, can the list help me with this one: I've just put a 283 with an HEI distributor in my '66 Chevelle. But the wiring harness off the firewall was for the old points-style distributor and coil. Do I hook up to the BATT terminal on the HEI those two wires that formerly went to the coil? Or just one, and which one? Thanks for any assistance. Del, with a dent in his forehead :-)
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
I have actually done the swap. It is not bad but you will have to get frame mounts from a 68-72 that had a Olds engine. The battery really needs to be switched to the left fender but the starter wires are long enough. The trans bolt patterns are different and the trans kickdown cable is hooked to the gas pedal if it has a TH350. The exhaust is different because of the cat. on the '76 but the manifolds are the same so an exhaust shop can bend the pipe as if it is a 70 Cutlass. I believe the hole in the firewall for the throttle cable is bigger on the 76 so you might need to file a bit. I can't remember how I dealt with the kickdown cable. I believe I copied the holes in the firewall and made it and I also used the gas pedal off of a 72 Cutlass. E-mail if you have any specific questions, its been a while but I have a pretty good long term memory still. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too Hey listers, I'm actually thinking of swapping my engine for a non-matching #'s one but I didn't want you guys to rag on me that much. But, It has come to my attention that I don't have the money or means to purchase an engine. So I'm going to try to swap mine but I dunno what it entails. I have a 1970 4 Door Chevelle Malibu with .307 original, 2barrel carb, and powerglide trans.1. Car stalled on me (going to work, late, thinking, "I'll wait for gas" - When I got gas, it still wouldn't start)2. Had someone check out my car who told me to leave key in on position -- the large wire from coil to firewall burned.3. Had someone fix the burned wire and my car was up and running...4. Same day it got fixed, I'm heading home and it cuts off on freeway.5. Same guy who fixed wire earlier that day said, now I needed a timing chain.6.I took the front off the motor this summer to replaced my timing chain - (actually top crank had teeth eaten so badly chain would just slip over it)7. I put it together and started it up -- It Starts!! But every other turn of the engine resulted in gas spitting from carb (if your car running sounded like rm,rm,rm,rm,rm,rm... Mine sounded like rm, rm., rm, spit (gas from carb), rm, rm, rm, spit..)8. So I came to you guys and someone said my time was off 180 degrees.9. Got mechanic to turn carb 180 degrees -- wouldn't start and wouldn't run properly10. Heard it could be bent valve, rocker arm, or something but that's another $500 or more job.11. I have a 76 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with a 350 that I had rebuilt 2 years ago w/cam, new carb-and the darn trans when out a week later12. I want to swap engines -- no need to have a rebuilt engine connected to fried trans and fried engine connect to 4 year old rebuilt original powerglide.Fellow listers... apologies for the long message but I needed you to know just about everything so that you can give me your honest opinion.What should I do? Will it be an all winter project or fairly simple? Thank you in advance for your opinions, CharlesCharles CampbellDetroit, MI'70 Chevelle Malibu, 4dr., .307, powerglideAll original except wheels, stereo paint (which I want back original)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site
Title: Message When my 72 is painted I will be happy to forward pics to you. - Original Message - From: Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBS To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site Man, I figured more members would post pics to your site. Kind of a bummer that people don't want to showcase thier rides on your site. C'mon guys/gals, let's get those pictures posted. I know alot of you have your own websites, but many don't. Not to mention, it would be pretty cool, to have everyones ride centrally located on one page for everyone to enjoy. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: Pelle Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:53 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT - Latest Virus Attack Is it possible thatone of these little buggers have slipped thru u'r firewalland Antivirus but it can't get out, due to later upgrades of firewall? Run a full system scan if you haven't already done that! http://members.chello.se/gearheads/Best regardsPelle Andersson
RE: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill
John; Yes, just two,upper and lower. upper pt.# 6261909, lower pt#6261910. Not to be confused with the center two , both part #'s are 6261925. ;-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site
Patience Gentlemen, a lady doesn't come to the dance half dressed. Let me get some paint on it please. It's been quite an ordeal learning how to go about painting it myself and I'm still not totally prepared equipment wise. I need to get the surface rust dealt with. the guy at ppg auto store sold me some epoxy primer the other day. I found some rust trouble at the drivers rear wheel well and think I should cut out the metal or use Por 15, I don't want to buy the whole 1/4 panel and weld it in, any suggestions? it's all just inside the opening, not on the outer panel yet, about a foot max...I'd hate to bondo it. :-}iane
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine swap -- Hey, Me too
i personally think by the time you mess with all the little things you could buy a rebuilt 350 to put in it Larry (Z)
