RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Hi Graham, Since you're going to pull the heads off anyway (right?), before reassembly I recommend getting a set of ARP head bolts (if you don't already have them) and a tube of their thread sealer (part #100-9904) for the head bolts that protrude into the water jacket and the intake manifold bolts. The nice thing about the thread sealer is that in addition to sealing the threads it is an excellent lubricant to ensure more accurate torque readings. I've used ARP's thread sealer and their assembly lube (part #100-9903) on the last five engines I've built and haven't had a problem with any of them. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:03 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Good points, and just read your other email. Thanks Andre! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:49 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Those felpros should be just fine, but they could have a defect I would take the top end off measure the heads and the top of the block with a straightedge to ensure that everything is straight, once everything is straight and clean I would copper spray some NEW gaskets and install all the parts once more. I know you'll have to throw away some new head and intake gaskets but whats $50 compared to what an engine costs Torque all bolts In the right sequence to half spec'd and take a coffee break, then torque to full spec and then start the engine, run it for a while and retorque once more ciao Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:39 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( They are the cheap Felpro set. I believe I torqued them to specs, which now makes me believe that I didn't. At any rate, I am about to go through them again and re-check. Thanks! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:29 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and up and > ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in action, after it > being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. I really wanted to hear > the gear-drive, but with open headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However > after about 6 minutes or so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I > cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak out, > which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a tool from > K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you can locate one, I > would highly recommend it. It's completely rad! The engine can start > and run without the car's ignition system hooked up. I got one from > eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Good points, and just read your other email. Thanks Andre! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:49 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Those felpros should be just fine, but they could have a defect I would take the top end off measure the heads and the top of the block with a straightedge to ensure that everything is straight, once everything is straight and clean I would copper spray some NEW gaskets and install all the parts once more. I know you'll have to throw away some new head and intake gaskets but whats $50 compared to what an engine costs Torque all bolts In the right sequence to half spec'd and take a coffee break, then torque to full spec and then start the engine, run it for a while and retorque once more ciao Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:39 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( They are the cheap Felpro set. I believe I torqued them to specs, which now makes me believe that I didn't. At any rate, I am about to go through them again and re-check. Thanks! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:29 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and up and > ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in action, after it > being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. I really wanted to hear > the gear-drive, but with open headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However > after about 6 minutes or so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I > cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak out, > which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a tool from > K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you can locate one, I > would highly recommend it. It's completely rad! The engine can start > and run without the car's ignition system hooked up. I got one from > eBay for about $25.00. >
[Chevelle-list] Measurement
Andre--you have mail. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
Well, that didn't work--I'll try again. __ / \ front / \ molding ==/ \ rear / \ molding \ I hope this makes sense :-)) BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
At 06:01 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Thanks a lot Bill, :o) Just one thing, I don't know if I explained well, did you take the measurement at the edge between where the front molding ends and where the rear molding begins or did you start at the rear molding edge going straight forward ?? I measured from the actual fender opening, the edges of the sheet metal, using the moldings as reference points. This meant that the tape measure was sloping down from front to back. I'll try to draw something here: __ / \ front / \ molding ==/ \ rear / \ molding \ I hope this makes sense :-)) BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need one more measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
At 05:58 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Bill, Would you be so kind to get me the wheelbase of your car, just to have as a reference. Thanks ! It's 112".
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
Thanks a lot Bill, :o) Just one thing, I dont know if I explained well, did you take the measurement at the edge between where the front molding ends and where the rear molding begins or did you start at the rear molding edge going straight forward ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:47 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle At 05:08 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: >Would someone with a 1968 Chevelle coupe be so kind to take a >measurement for me ? > >What I need is to know if the front wheel is centered in the front >wheelwell. Nope >Lets say, by measuring the wheelwell between where the front molding >ends and where the rear molding begins (just to have two reference >points), I mean from the edge of the wheelwell, not the molding itself. 30 1/4" >I would like to have this measurement (should be around 30/32", but I >don't have my numbers here). > >I would also like to know if the center of the wheel is at center of >this measurement or if its moved front or aft by any degree. The wheel center is appx 13 7/8" from the front--I.E. the wheel is forward of the centerline of the opening. >I get my wheelcenter to be moved back about 3/4" and that doesn't seem >right, I'm still in time to change before finish welding so please help >me if you are able to do that. Hope this helps. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need one more measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
Bill, Would you be so kind to get me the wheelbase of your car, just to have as a reference. Thanks ! Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:49 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Need one more measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle At 05:24 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: >Hi again, > >I would also like you to measure the wheelbase, as I've understood it >its supposed to be 112" > >But does this measurement vary with the suspension going up and down ?? I'm not sure if a Chevelle has any caster gain or not, that's what would change the wheelbase measurement. Set everything at ride height & measure it there. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Graham, You should have used silicone on the ones protruding into the water channels. I'm not en expert on torque settings by any means so I cant answer that Q but I know that the water will creep along the threads. I also use the supplied grease (ARP bolts or studs) under the washers and nuts or under the heads of the bolts because that will mess up the torque settings if you dont. on old bolts I use the nearest box of grease around (I dont think thats 100% correct to do) Ciao :o) Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:41 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( No, I actually didn't use silicon. Do I need to? Wouldn't that mess up the torque settings? I didn't read anywhere when I put the heads on that I needed to. Um. -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Did you have silicone on the head bolts/studs that protrude into the water channels ? not that this would cause the water to run out but normally, but who knows ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:29 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need one more measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
At 05:24 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Hi again, I would also like you to measure the wheelbase, as I've understood it its supposed to be 112" But does this measurement vary with the suspension going up and down ?? I'm not sure if a Chevelle has any caster gain or not, that's what would change the wheelbase measurement. Set everything at ride height & measure it there. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Those felpros should be just fine, but they could have a defect I would take the top end off measure the heads and the top of the block with a straightedge to ensure that everything is straight, once everything is straight and clean I would copper spray some NEW gaskets and install all the parts once more. I know you'll have to throw away some new head and intake gaskets but whats $50 compared to what an engine costs Torque all bolts In the right sequence to half spec'd and take a coffee break, then torque to full spec and then start the engine, run it for a while and retorque once more ciao Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:39 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( They are the cheap Felpro set. I believe I torqued them to specs, which now makes me believe that I didn't. At any rate, I am about to go through them again and re-check. Thanks! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:29 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
At 05:08 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Would someone with a 1968 Chevelle coupe be so kind to take a measurement for me ? What I need is to know if the front wheel is centered in the front wheelwell. Nope Lets say, by measuring the wheelwell between where the front molding ends and where the rear molding begins (just to have two reference points), I mean from the edge of the wheelwell, not the molding itself. 30 1/4" I would like to have this measurement (should be around 30/32", but I don't have my numbers here). I would also like to know if the center of the wheel is at center of this measurement or if its moved front or aft by any degree. The wheel center is appx 13 7/8" from the front--I.E. the wheel is forward of the centerline of the opening. I get my wheelcenter to be moved back about 3/4" and that doesn't seem right, I'm still in time to change before finish welding so please help me if you are able to do that. Hope this helps. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
No, I actually didn't use silicon. Do I need to? Wouldn't that mess up the torque settings? I didn't read anywhere when I put the heads on that I needed to. Um. -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Did you have silicone on the head bolts/studs that protrude into the water channels ? not that this would cause the water to run out but normally, but who knows ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:29 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
They are the cheap Felpro set. I believe I torqued them to specs, which now makes me believe that I didn't. At any rate, I am about to go through them again and re-check. Thanks! -Graham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:29 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Did you have silicone on the head bolts/studs that protrude into the water channels ? not that this would cause the water to run out but normally, but who knows ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:29 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Depending on the gasket, they may or may not require retorquing after a time but in either case, there shouldn't be any leaking. Could be the head bolts weren't torque properly originally or possibly sitting with only air temp warming and cooling, they may have loosened up. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 98 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Graham Wooden > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:03 PM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from > head gasket :^( > > > Hi Folks, > > Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and > up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in > action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. > I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open > headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or > so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. > > A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half > (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a > cheap two-piece unit. > > Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, > in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak > out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal > - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? > I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the > head gaskets need to be re-torqued? > > Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a > tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you > can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely > rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition > system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need one more measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
Hi again, I would also like you to measure the wheelbase, as I've understood it its supposed to be 112" But does this measurement vary with the suspension going up and down ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:09 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle Would someone with a 1968 Chevelle coupe be so kind to take a measurement for me ? What I need is to know if the front wheel is centered in the front wheelwell. Lets say, by measuring the wheelwell between where the front molding ends and where the rear molding begins (just to have two reference points), I mean from the edge of the wheelwell, not the molding itself. I would like to have this measurement (should be around 30/32", but I dont have my numbers here). I would also like to know if the center of the wheel is at center of this measurement or if its moved front or aft by any degree. I get my wheelcenter to be moved back about 3/4" and that doesnt seem right, I'm still in time to change before finish welding so please help me if you are able to do that. Thanks for your help. Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen
RE: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Graham, That doesnt sound normal to me, are you sure you torqued the heads before starting it (I know it sounds stupid but It can happen to everyone) What it also could be is that either the block or heads arent straight. I would take of the head and check it out. Ciao ! Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Wooden Sent: 11. januar 2004 00:03 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^( Hi Folks, Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a cheap two-piece unit. Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the head gaskets need to be re-torqued? Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. Anyhoo, thanks for any help! -Graham. http://projectchevelle.com/
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need two measurement of off a 1968 Chevelle
Would someone with a 1968 Chevelle coupe be so kind to take a measurement for me ? What I need is to know if the front wheel is centered in the front wheelwell. Lets say, by measuring the wheelwell between where the front molding ends and where the rear molding begins (just to have two reference points), I mean from the edge of the wheelwell, not the molding itself. I would like to have this measurement (should be around 30/32", but I dont have my numbers here). I would also like to know if the center of the wheel is at center of this measurement or if its moved front or aft by any degree. I get my wheelcenter to be moved back about 3/4" and that doesnt seem right, I'm still in time to change before finish welding so please help me if you are able to do that. Thanks for your help. Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen
[Chevelle-list] Wow - Engine runs but leaks from head gasket :^(
Hi Folks, Well, this day finally happened - the motor fired right and up and ran! Unbelievable; it was truly amazing to see it in action, after it being on the engine stand for 2+ years now. I really wanted to hear the gear-drive, but with open headers, it's a tad hard ;-) However after about 6 minutes or so breaking in the cam, 2 leaks started and I cut off the motor. A leak developed in the fuel pump, where the bottom half (swivel) gasket started to leak. Kind of typical I guess of a cheap two-piece unit. Another leak started with the head gasket; at the front end, in-between the head & block - little coolant started to leak out, which brings to the point of this email. Is this normal - after the engine has warmed up for the first time and all? I guess since things start to expand and what-not. Does the head gaskets need to be re-torqued? Oh, by the way, John Nasta mentioned a while back about a tool from K-D Tools, a "portable ignition system". If you can locate one, I would highly recommend it. It's completely rad! The engine can start and run without the car's ignition system hooked up. I got one from eBay for about $25.00. Anyhoo, thanks for any help! -Graham. http://projectchevelle.com/
[Chevelle-list] Digital camera!
Ordered a fuji S5000 today so I can document the progress & use it as a "memory" to put things together again :-) Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html
Re: [Chevelle-list] NC: Trucks website?
http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/ for the older ones with newer mixed in. - Original Message - From: "Michael Pell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ChevelleList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] NC: Trucks website? > > I know there's a great website out there just on trucks, all years. > And it has lots of active forums/bulletin boards. > > Anybody know which site it might be? I'm in the market for a work truck > (Chevy 1 ton dually) for pulling a trailer around, and I know this > particular site would be very helpful. > > Thanks, in advance. > > -- > Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com > TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com > Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 > Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] NC: Trucks website?
Michael, Here's a couple I know of; Stovebolt is probably the one you are looking for. http://stovebolt.com/index.htm http://www.classicpickups.com/ http://www.classictruckshop.com/ http://www.chevytrucks.org/ http://www.pickuptruck.com/ http://www.myoldtruck.com/ That should keep you busy for a while. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:19 PM To: ChevelleList; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] NC: Trucks website? I know there's a great website out there just on trucks, all years. And it has lots of active forums/bulletin boards. Anybody know which site it might be? I'm in the market for a work truck (Chevy 1 ton dually) for pulling a trailer around, and I know this particular site would be very helpful. Thanks, in advance. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
Re: [Chevelle-list] NMW ladder bars
I have a set of the NMW latter bars that came off a parts car. The car had a piece of angle iron welded across the frame and attached to the front of the latter bar. It was a home made set up. The NMW bars were also sold by Lakewood and came with a large bracket that bolted to the frame and to the front control arm. They have a cool "day 2" look but are not the best set-up for drag racing. The NMW bars came red primer color and the Lakewood bars came painted yellow. Motion Performance used them also on the Phase III 427 Chevelles. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] NMW ladder bars > These look like a set I picked up at a flea market. > I've been told they can be hard on the frame of the vehicle. > Being that there 's two sets of mounting holes up front which holes are the softest setting (put least shock to frame)? > I figured there's someone here has these, or used to at least. I understand these are not the hot setup anymore but they'd look cool on the wagon and it is going to the strip if it goes anywhere, so might even be functional. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453128756&category=34200 > > Thanks! > > > Pete Geurds > Douglassville, PA > >
