Re: [Chevelle-list] anyone like these?

[plgchevelle65]

It's a personal preference.  Doesn't do anything for me.  I didn't look at all 
the models but I thought it looked good on the 70 Buick GSX.   




Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: harkema...@aol.com
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:29 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] anyone like these?


Click here: Home 

Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[plgchevelle65]

No name calling.  Just say what needs to be said by narative & 
explanation.  Then if someone wants to be an idiot, let it go.



Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Tom Rightler 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash



You're an idiot, sorry, but that's just the truth.  Old cars, old 
engineering.  They aren't deisgned to be energy absorbing..new cars 
are. Early Iron...best route..hardly.  How many people were killed in 
wrecks back then compared to nowdo some research before you go 
shooting off what you OPINION is vs. what the TRUTH is.


 

 

 

 

 

- Original Message -


From: Kevin Brown

To: The Chevelle Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:10 AM

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash








Well It Is Clear To Me That Your Blind And I Am Sorry For That You 
Never Watched The Video Correctly Then The Dudes Head In The 2009 Hit 
The Steering Wheel To Life Threathing Blows. How Can You Possible Say 
That The 2009 Is Made Better?? Look At The Junkyards They Are Full Of 
Them Ya Tap The Dam Things The Front End FALLS off. Plastic Junk.. They 
Haven't Made A Decent Car Since The Early 80"s I Own A 2007 Malibu It 
Is Junk Co
mpared To My 70 SS... Yep Hands Down The Early Iron Is The 
Best Route. I Think I Have More Metal In My Engine Alone Then Is What"s 
In The Whole 2009. Ya Know I Used To Make Them 2009"s When I Was A Kid. 
They Was Called Models I Glued Together. LMAO

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler  wrote:


From: Tom Rightler 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:55 AM



I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from 
much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car 
is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that 
the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars 
are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's 
job.  That video is very real.  If you were driving the 59 Impala in 
that video..you'd be dead, period.


 

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor


- Original Message -

From: Kevin Brown

To: The Chevelle Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash







That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I 
Have Seen Alot Of 
Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In 
Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I 
Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The 
Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video Over 
Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To 
Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering 
Wheel Like A Bag Of Oranges.Ask Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday 
If I Was Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars..


Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams  wrote:


From: Larry Williams 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" 
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What a waste of a beautiful classic car.  As*holes!

Larry

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Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[plgchevelle65]

To quote the great Smokey Robinson, "I second that emotion!!!"  You'd 
be DEAD.  PERIOD  And you were dead on Tom.  Let's not be stubborn 
old guys & think our old cars were better & safer just because we love 
our old cars.  While I'm crazy about my 65, now & when I owned others 
in 65, 72, & 84, I'd be a liar if I didn't admit how much more I enjoy 
the reliability & safety of my modern cars compared to the old stuff.  
Technology can be a wonderful thing.



Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Tom Rightler 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:55 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash



I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from 
much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car 
is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that 
the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars 
are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's 
job.  That video is very real.  If you were driving the 59 Impala in 
that video..you'd be dead, period.


 

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor


- Original Message -

From: Kevin Brown

To: The Chevelle Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT
:YouTube crash







That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I 
Have Seen Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In 
Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I 
Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The 
Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video Over 
Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To 
Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering 
Wheel Like A Bag Of OrangesAsk Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday 
If I Was Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars..


Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams  wrote:


From: Larry Williams 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" 
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What a waste of a beautiful classic car.  As*holes!

Larry

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Insurance

[plgchevelle65]

Hey Donnie:  I'm paying $279 with $40k agreed with American Modern Ins. 
Co. thru Broker Alex Larue who is on The List.  My previous company 
doubled my premium when "they" decided my car was modified.  OK I'm not 
factory stock but all companies do not consider after market upgrades 
as a modified car.  You know my car.  No tubs or blower.  Looks plenty 
stock to me.  Just a Hurst, a tach & a set of wheels.  Contact ALex 
Larue.  He'll take care of you.



Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: donnie...@aol.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2009 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Insurance



What are your coverages?  I pay $375/year with Hagerty, (live in 
MD)  and the agreed value is only $15,000.  I have a 67 chevelle 
... malibu.  This is full coverage but seems high compared to your 
rates.  Might be time for me to change insurance companies!


 

Thanks

 

Donnie

 

 

 


In a message dated 9/10/2009 9:59:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
rodi...@gmail.com writes:



Hello all,

My wife and I are wondering why we are paying twice as much for the 
Chevelle as we did last year and it's almost as much as we pay for our 
07 Camry???


So, what are you guys paying for classic insurance and what company do 
you have? We have a 1966 Chevelle SS 
with a stated amount of $25,000 
and we are paying $220.00 a year. It is registered as an antique.


Thanks for the help.

Dan

Re: [Chevelle-list] Good By Cruisers?

[plgchevelle65]

Rick:  Didn't read the article but I agree with your post.  Was just 
talking to a guy at a cruise-in on Sunday.  He had a real nice 31 Ford 
coupe & prices are so down cause the interested generation is dying 
out.  The 50's, 60's, & current gen car enthusiasts aren't interested 
in these cars.  I've been to shows where I've been the "kid", and I've 
been to shows with alot of "Tuner" cars & I'm the "Old Guy!"  As long 
as there's respect all around, car guys of all ages usually get along.  
I think most of us can see & admire the vast spectrum of automotive 
history & of which we've chosen to embrace as a hobby.  And Yes.  Very 
few of our grandkids will give a Damn about our 60's muscle cars.



Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Good By Cruisers?


  Interesting read, but I don't think that its entirely true.   We 
(baby boomer generation) may not see a future classic in any of the 
current offerings, but in 20-40 years, WE won't be the cruisers.    The 
kids of today will be harkening (can anyone give me the word I want?)  
back to their "Good-Old-Days" .   They'll be cruisin in 5.0 Mustangs,  
Tuners and whatever floats their boat today.        We (mostly)  are =0

D
not interested in the cars our dads & grandfathers were cruising in.   
And the same will be true for our kids & grandkids. 



On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Larry Williams 
 wrote:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090816/ap_on_re_us/us_dream_cruise

Thought you all might be interested in this article.
Larry Williams
65 SS 496

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Re: [Chevelle-list] the list

[plgchevelle65]

I got 2 also.? 


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: harkema...@aol.com
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 3, 2009 6:27 pm
Subject: [Chevelle-list] the list


wondering did every one get a reminder from the chevelle list from 2- diffrent 
places this month: chevelle-list-ow...@chevelles.net 
and:mailman-ow...@chevelles.net 
just wondering, kind of weird, 

Harlan





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[Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack

[plgchevelle65]

A?representative?at GM told me the other day that as of 3/1/09 there is a 
$50.00 charge for the Restoration pack.? 

Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Champion Speed Shop

[plgchevelle65]

Those of us in our late 50's to 60 plus age group remember the 1960's & the 
Golden Age of Drag Racing.  Not alot of big time sponsors back then or TV at 
all.  The most you saw in your local paper was a paragraph or so on Friday.  
The Big Boys had to go coast to coast to make a buck.  Mostly show money & 
match racing.  Here in the DC/MD area we had 75 & 80 Dragaway, Capitol Raceway 
Park, & Aquasco Sppeedway.  For a road trip we'd go to York US 30 
Dragway.  From 63-68 I spent most of my weekends at one of those & from 65-67 
racing my A/FS L-79 SS.  Got drafted in December 68.  Funny how reflexes change 
after 45 years.  Man I wish I still had that car.  We had all the famous guys 
here in the East too.  You're right Larry.  What a Great time!  What a Great 
Era to have been a part of.  The 60's!  Drag Racing & Rock & Roll.  Forgive me 
guys.  I get nostolgic & Like it!!!  


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Larry Williams 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Champion Speed Shop


I spent many days at both Fremont and Half Moon Bay drag strips. What a great 
time. I have seen all the famous drag racers. Stone Woods and Cook, Dan 
Garlits, Gas Ronda, The glass slipper, Haden Profit, Tommy Ivo, all of them. I 
raced my 53 pontiac powered Studie at Fremont in20D gas. I lived in Menlo Park 
across the San Francisco Bay from Fremont Drag and on calm days could hear the 
dragsters run. 
 
Larry 
 
Rick Schaefer wrote: 
> Neat video. I love any of those that bring back the "Good ole Days" > 
> Recognize at least 2 of those cars from Hot Rod & Speed & Custom & PHR > from 
> 45 years ago. Thanx for the memory. 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Ed Riggins  
> > wrote: 
> 
> We had the pleasure of co-sponsoring the car and worked with Jim 
> and his son Bob and Sammy Hale, the last driver of the Champion 
> nostalgia car. In one of the last frames of this clip, you can see 
> Hale wearing one of the “team” shirts, red with a big black and 
> white Juxtapoz “spade” logo, designed by Craig Stecyk, on the 
> back. Hanging in our office, we have the identical logo from the 
> blower cover, on a framed, carbon fiber plaque they gave us that 
> has the 5.87 et signed by Hale, and it also includes the blown 
> piston and spun rod bearing from the run. Great memories of some 
> wonderful guys. Thanks for sharing. ER 
> 
> 
>  
> *From: *Malibu <327mal...@gmail.com > 
> *Reply-To: *The Chevelle Mailing List  > 
> *Date: *Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:30:2620-0500 
> *To: *The Chevelle Mailing List  > 
> *Subject: *[Chevelle-list] Champion Speed Shop 
> 
> /I found this video and thought it was interesting so I'm sending 
> it to the list to see. 
> / 
> 
> Video produced for the International Drag Racing Hall of Fame 
> 2007, which inducted Jim McLennan. 
> Brief history of the "Smiling Irishman" who drove the "worlds 
> fastest Chevy," and his Champion Speed Shop. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REWiSl6cIm4 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- > Rick Schaefer 
> 72 TPI El Camino 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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[Chevelle-list] Tires & Wheels

[plgchevelle65]

Can anyone direct me to the website that allows you to try out different tires 
& wheels on your car.? Just being lazy.? I promise to?save it.? Thanks Guys.? ?


Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32

[plgchevelle65]

I'm with Alex also.  First year, no claims.  I'm curious what the increase will 
be, IF ANY, when I renew in January 09.  Alex is a List Member, very 
professional & knowledgeable, and easy to work with.    


Phil G. 65 SS  MCC 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Pell 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32



I'll 3rd that..
And I have had a claim, and it went as great as you'd ever hope for.


--
 
 Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com
 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6


Chuck Speake wrote: 


I second Alex.  I have been with him since I got my 70 in 2002.  The rates are 
reasonable.  I haven’t had a claim, but from everything said by all the other 
people on the list there shouldn’t be a problem if I ever do.

 

 

Chuck Speake

1970 Chevelle Malibu

Glen Ellyn, IL.

 

 

 



From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rich Pruett
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:14 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32



 


Talk to Alex LaRue;



 



http://www.larueinsurance.net/larueins.html



 



He's a list member and a pretty straight guy.



 



Rich



 




--
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had no faults at all. 

You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. 
--- Dave Barry



 



-- Original message -- 
From: Don Holloway  
Can anyone recommend a classic car insurance company? Thanks Don

From: chevelle-list-requ...@chevelles.net
Subject: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:00:01 -0700

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--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: ric...@gmail.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sat, 2 7 Dec 2008 14:41:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] sail panel install

   Definitely brush on.   And  I'm not sure if I'm understanding John 
correctly, but I didn't use any glue on the "good" side.  




On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, John Nasta <6...@johnnasta.com> wrote:

Sail panels are an ongoin
g battle for me. I did cut darts in the back. It becomes obvious when you start 
test-wrapping the material around the curves of the panel that this has to be 
done in order for it to conform. My mom also sews, quilts, etc. so it was not 
the first time I had ever heard of the concept.


Anyway, the glue is another story. With any kind of contact cement it's 
important to spray both sides and let it dry a few minutes until it's tacky 
rather than wet (the Super 77 can says to bond when it is "aggressively 
tacky"). Hold the can 6 to 8 inches away, keep it moving and don't spray too 
much. If your headliner material is porous it can ooze out the other side and 
it is hard to get off.


Maybe it's a symptom of the fact that I park outdoors in all kinds of weather, 
but mine fall down at least once a year, meaning that the material separates 
from the bo ards. I have tried 3M Headliner Adhesive as well as Super 77. Maybe 
some day I'll just buy the pre-done ones and get it over with.


John









-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino





--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: charles.e.ly...@navy.mil
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:01:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 
SSConvertible

I'd like to see the picture too.
 
Charlie
 

 
From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net on behalf of Jim Hunter
Sent: Sat 12/27/2008 10:56 AM
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [
Chevelle-list] 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SSConvertible
 
 
 
Going through stuff in my "car room" today, I came across a 2003 OPG
poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SS Convertible that

 I had framed in a
2'x3' poster frame years ago.
 
To make room for some 2009 R/T posters that my brothers got me for
Christmas, I'm going to be unframing this guy and I'm not sure if anyone
would be interested in it and I have no idea it's worth.  I'll let it go
for a reasonable offer, as it belongs hanging up in some Chevelle guy's
garage!!!
 
I can send a photo of it!
 
    Jim H.
 
P.S. Most of the other 68/69 Chevelle stuff I hd has been cleared out but
I still have a few odds & ends left:
 
- a few 1/64 diecasts (unopened)

Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book

[plgchevelle65]

I've been following the thread & thought I was the only one who ever noticed 
the errors.  When I'm looking at a Muscle Car/Chevy/Chevelle book I always go 
to the 65 info first & almost always find errors.  Are these people cars 
guys or just editors?  I get all the magazines also-HR,CC,PHR, SC,CHP & 
others.  Errors in them also but they will print a follow-up blurb in a future 
issue when pointed out.     


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Dale <396...@lcisp.com>
To: dansolo...@msn.com; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 

Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book




Here’s a couple more with *enjoyable* errors.  LOL

 

Standard Catalog of Chevelle 1964-1987 by John Gunnell

Chevelle SS 1964-1972, A Muscle Car Source Book by Jeffrey Steffes

 


Dale






From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dan Solomon
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:10 PM
To: Chevelle List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book


 

I agree that there are errors but still a good read. Actually finding the 
mistakes in text and photos has been quite enjoyable.


Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/



From: "Tom Rightler" 
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:26:01 -0500
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Bo
ok


That book is only good for a paperweight unless you like reading incorrect 
information.  It is laced with errors.



 



Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor




- Original Message - 



From: Daniel Solomon 



To: The Chevelle Mailing List 



Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:05 PM



Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book



 


One of my favorite books is Chevelle SS Restoration Guide by MBI Publications. 
ISBN Number 0-87938-569-3. Its a great reference guide filled with lots of good 
information about the Chevelle SS.
Cant help with the small block book. All mine are big blocks.

 
"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/






> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:08:48 -0500
> From: t...@eagleshore.com
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book
> 
> My daughter traditionally gets me a book for Christmas, and she is 
> looking for ideas for me this year. I'm still learning-as-I go with this 
> hobby, working on my '71 Malibu and '66 El Camino. I might get into 
> rebuilding the small block in the Malibu some day, and would like to 
> learn more about this.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a good book for either general Chevelle history, or 
> engine rebuild how-to?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tom Tomlinson
> 



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Re: [Chevelle-list] ever thought of trading your Chevelle?

[plgchevelle65]

I'm sure alot of us have days like that.? Sometimes when?my 65 isn't running 
right or I just don't feel like cleaning it or messing with it I think about 
selling it & moving on.? But on a cruise, at a show, or a cruise-in, behind the 
wheel or hanging with all the great car people I've come to know, I realize why 
I've invested all the time & $$$ in this old heap of metal that I LOVE so 
much!!!? When the time is right for you to make a change you'll do it and go 
forward with life.? There are many factors involved.? One might be: How much?a 
part of you, your life, and social circle is this car or any car???

I've always wanted a 62 Vette.? So I'm getting off cheap with my 65 SS.? But we 
always keep looking & dreaming.? That's part of the fun of living the 
dream.??We're only a small segment of the population.? Check out all the 
admirers at shows & cruise-ins who wished they owned these cars.? Sometimes I 
envy the guys in nice quiet mild stockers.? Much unlike my modified car with 
rumbling Flowmasters.? But again, I Love it!!!? I'm 60 & I know the day will 
come when I have to give it up.? I hope to retain all the friendships & stay 
active with my club cause once a gear head always a gear 
head??


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: J. Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chevelle Group 
Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 9:01 pm
Subject: [Chevelle-list] ever thought of trading your Chevelle?



Every now and again I consider trading my '66 for something else- just wondered 
if anyone else has that temptation and whether or not they ended up doing it.

I have been going back and forth on it for about a yr now.

Jim
'66 Malibu


  

Re: [Chevelle-list] A Veteran

[plgchevelle65]

My mistake Leo.  I appologize.  I read it to fast & responded before my brain 
was in gear.      


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Leo John Costigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A Veteran




You need to read what I said.

“I can’t agree more with the paragraph at the bottom of this post.”

After thirty years and retired form the Navy, I rather believe that I AM a 
Veteran! I didn’t do 2 or 4 and jump out, and I gave that blank check several 
times.



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To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A Veteran



I'm in late guys but I have to respond. 

What's there not to agree with.  Nothing political here.  No disrepect but 
obviously you're not a veteran! 


Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] O/T What does American Pie mean

[plgchevelle65]

Great video & song.? I was there & don't want to go back either but I 
experience a little 60's rush every time I cruise in my 65 and think about the 
days, the memories, and the friends that are gone.? It's a personal thing.? 
Different in everybody.? I appreciated what I had & have today.? Never worried 
about what I didn't have.? 


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] O/T What does American Pie mean



Excellent.??An interpretation that never occurred to me.? ?? Brings back 
memories, good and bad.? The sixties were a time of? change.? Glad I 
experienced it but don't want to turn back the clock either.? Thanx for posting.


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Rich Pruett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Worth a watch, really.

?

http://videos.komando.com/2008/09/07/what-does-american-pie-mean/

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had no faults at all. 

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72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] A Veteran

[plgchevelle65]

I'm in late guys but I have to respond. 

What's there not to agree with.  Nothing political here.  No disrepect but 
obviously you're not a veteran! 


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Leo John Costigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 1:26 pm
Subject: [Chevelle-list] A Veteran




I can’t agree more with the paragraph at the bottom of this post.



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A veteran - whether active duty or national guard or reserve - is Someone who, 
at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United 
States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is 
honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer 
understand it. 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] signing off for a while

[plgchevelle65]

John:? My sincere condolences on the loss of your brother.? 


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:55 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] signing off for a while


Unfortunately my brother was killed yesterday when his small plane crashed 
during an air show in Rhinebeck, NY. I will not be able to check mail regularly 
or correspond with the group for a while.?
?
Sincerely,?
John Nasta?
?
?

[Chevelle-list] Looking for a 63 or 64 Chevy

[plgchevelle65]

Hey guys:? Just alittle off subject but we're coast to coast so 1 email reaches 
far.? I got a friend looking for a 63 or 64 Chevy.? Not a show car or 
a?rustbucket but something in between.? Anyone know of something available or 
have something tucked in?their garage.? A nice roller with no engine or trans 
would work also.??Thanks.? ???


Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying a car online

[plgchevelle65]

Listen to these guys Steve.? They know what they're talking about.? Better your 
heart be broken than to be ripped off.? I'm in Maryland & I bought my car from 
a guy in Washington?state.? I also worked from pictures.? But I spoke with the 
guy by phone for 6 weeks while other deals fell through on the car.? I had a 
pretty good idea of who this guy was & his?integrity by the end of 6 weeks.? I 
wouldn't have cried if I lost it.? Just would have kept on looking & maybe the 
next one would have been closer.? I got lucky but I woudn't do it again without 
closer inspection, etc.? Oh, if you do buy it, transport in a closed carrier.? 
It's worth it.? Ever seen a car after a hail storm!!!? Not trying to scare 
you.? Just keeping your eyes wide open.? Good luck & I hope all works out well 
for you.? ? 


hil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Tom Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying a car online


Steve:?
? I bought my '71 from a guy near Vancouver, BC, and I live in NY. I couldn't 
find any members near the location, so I had the owner shoot a video of the 
car, top to bottom, and then he drove it while shooting the video (probably not 
the safest thing to do). I also had the owner take the car to a garage in his 
town to go through the car. Turns out Canada has a standard 134 point checklist 
that all garages can do on a used car. The mechanic faxed me the results and 
they found everything wrong with the car, bad front bearings, alternator diodes 
in wrong, brakes, etc. I ended up buying the car, but I had a very good idea of 
exactly what I was getting. I also had it shipped door-to-door via a Canadian 
carrier, and also learned how to import a car. But that's another story.?
?
Tom Tomlinson?
'71 Malibu?
?
SteveZL1 wrote:?
> Subject: Buying a car online?
>?
> I've found a 1965 on line I'm interested?
> in buying. It seems to be a good deal.?
> I've seen pictures and talked with the owner. Due to the distance > involved 
> I'm considering buying this car sight unseen. I can afford > the asking price 
> and have lined up getting the car transported (open > carrier). I know there 
> must be some risk involved. Do any group > members know a way to guide me 
> through the process? Paperwork, title > transfer, any taxes, etc. (I realize 
> things vary from state to state) > I've never bought a car on line. Can 
> anyone help with the pitfalls and > cautions I should follow. I've really got 
> my heart set on this car. > ANY help, past experiences, etc. would be great.?
> SteveZL1?
?

Re: [Chevelle-list] more about names

[plgchevelle65]

Class of "66"!


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 8:00 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] more about names




Phil

?? I bet that you are a member of "The Class of '65"? 



On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:08 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Same here Dennis.? My 65 SS is just known as "The Chevelle" and everyone who 
knows me, knows what it is & what I'm talking about.? Family, faith & all the 
other obligations of life come first, but I'd be a liar if I didn't admit?I 
love "The Chevelle" and it's a big part of my life!??Just turned 60 and behind 
the wheel of the 65 I'm 17 forever!!!? Yes you can only be young once 
But you can be immature?forever If you know how to have fun!? And 
owning a vintage Chevelle is FUN!!!??


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Melanie Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] more about names



"Blackie" is the name bestowed on the cute little '53 Chevy pickup I bought a 
couple of weeks ago. The lady who sold it referred to the truck as "she" or 
"her." My car is just "the Chevelle."
Dennis McGillis

1965 Malibu SS-350

?

?


- Original Message - 

From: Melanie Lopez 

To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:21 AM

Subject: [Chevelle-list] more about names




Sorry, I didn't mean to make the whole thing repeat itself there on my last 
reply so I started a new one. 

Thanks for all the suggestions. Would still like to hear more car names, I 
think it's fun. 

Anyway, the name Black Betty came to me last night (as in Bam A Lam, whoa Black 
Betty). Looked up the lyrics, that might just be the right name for her.

Melanie 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] more about names

[plgchevelle65]

Same here Dennis.? My 65 SS is just known as "The Chevelle" and everyone who 
knows me, knows what it is & what I'm talking about.? Family, faith & all the 
other obligations of life come first, but I'd be a liar if I didn't admit?I 
love "The Chevelle" and it's a big part of my life!??Just turned 60 and behind 
the wheel of the 65 I'm 17 forever!!!? Yes you can only be young once 
But you can be immature?forever If you know how to have fun!? And 
owning a vintage Chevelle is FUN!!!??


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Melanie Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] more about names



"Blackie" is the name bestowed on the cute little '53 Chevy pickup I bought a 
couple of weeks ago. The lady who sold it referred to the truck as "she" or 
"her." My car is just "the Chevelle."
Dennis McGillis

1965 Malibu SS-350

?

?


- Original Message - 

From: Melanie Lopez 

To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:21 AM

Subject: [Chevelle-list] more about names




Sorry, I didn't mean to make the whole thing repeat itself there on my last 
reply so I started a new one. 

Thanks for all the suggestions. Would still like to hear more car names, I 
think it's fun. 

Anyway, the name Black Betty came to me last night (as in Bam A Lam, whoa Black 
Betty). Looked up the lyrics, that might just be the right name for her.

Melanie 

?

Re: [Chevelle-list] Internet Scam

[plgchevelle65]

Hey Donnie:? Can I be part of your family???I've never been to Portland & I 
like to vacation!!!? LOL!!!? ?? 


Phil G. 65 SS? MCC


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Internet Scam



Yes Larry... Tom Rightler and I (from the Maryland Chevelle Club) will be 
there.? Plan to fly in Friday.? Will be staying at the embassy suites hotel?in 
Portland.? I fly the family out Sunday night and we will make a vacation out of 
it.

?

Donnie Gates

?

?

?


In a message dated 6/11/2008 2:14:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:


I happen to live just outside of Portland and would be more than happy to pick 
up the car. send ne her email and I'll harrass her for a while.

Donnie are you coming to Portland to attend our show? (Oregon Chevelle & El 
Camino club)

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Quiet time Filler

[plgchevelle65]

Sorry for the guy & I hope they didn't kill him over a fender bender.? That was 
HILARIOUS!!
I couldn't stop laughing.? Little old ladies road rage.? Be neat to see that?on 
camera.? Maybe some internet whiz will see the opportunity to be creative cause 
that guy's dialogue was priceless.? Thanks.? ?





Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Jim Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Quiet time Filler



For those of you with a few minutes to spare.? It's kind of car related.

?

Turn your sound up.? 

?


http://www.chumfm.com/MorningShow/bits/march24.swf





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Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring

[plgchevelle65]

See, that's what makes the world go round.? Everybody is different & that's 
OK!? 58, 59, & 60 would be my bottem three with the 58, being in my opinion the 
ugliest.? Even though I've seen some nicely done in all three years & do admire 
them.? I don't even want to hear about the 52-54's.? I'm sure there are some 
lovers out there also.? I guess it just depends on what you remember as a kid.? 
This KID is 59.? ???  


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Rich Pruett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] starter & starter wiring



To me, the three prettiest years running for Chevy was '58, '59 and '60. 

?

-- Original message -- 
From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Yeah, I wish he still had it. I saw a white '59 coupe in Marin County 
> CA about a year ago under a carport with enough dust & dirt on it to 
> be obvious that it hasn't been driven in years. I was so tempted to 
> knock on their door and ask about it... 
> 
> 
> Quoting Rich Pruett : 
> 
> > I'll take that '59 off your dad's hands! 
> > 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [Chevelle-list] Bike for sale

[plgchevelle65]

No hard feelings John.? I said from the beginning I didn't know much about 
bikes.? But I'm getting an education here.? The CBX has a cult like following 
and from what I've seen for a complete running or restored bike, 
$10,000-$18,000, this one is a deal for somebody out there.? Thanks for all the 
comments.? I appreciate your input and highly respect the opinions of 
everybody?on the LIST.? BTW, when are you coming back to our North East Show?? 
We had over 200 cars & perfect weather this year.?
?
Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bike for sale


I know what it is. I still wouldn't touch it with a 100' pole. I guess I just 
don't have enough disposable cash to entertain buying a bike like that in that 
condition for that price.?
?
It may surprise you to find out that there is actually quite a following for 
the XS650, as you will probably find for just about any vintage bike. I bought 
a bike to ride and have fun with. I got what I wanted.?
?
Thanks for your opinion but it does not negate mine.?
?
John?
?
?
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:36 PM?
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bike for sale?
?
> Obviously John didn't know what a CBX was when he compared it to his bike.?
?



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Re: [Chevelle-list] Bike for sale

[plgchevelle65]

Thanks for the picture & the additional info Terry.  It's still available.  

Thanks for the support Dan.  Obviously John didn't know what a CBX was when he 
compared it to his bike.  Now he does.  (Kinda like a Chevelle SS to a Vega.  I 
bought a new Vega in 1973.  Lost it to my ex in the divorce.  Actually it was 
my good fortune to get rid of them both!!!)  No insult taken John.  Don't 
anyone lose any sleep or get aggravated over this.  And if you like you can 
insult my car too.  It's just a clean driver & it has issues as many do except 
for maybe the queens.  OOPS!!!  Did I just start something?  I feel a footprint 
on my tongue.  You guys are the greatest & this list was one of the best things 
I ever found.  For technical assistance & just plain entertainment.  And now 
that we know what a CBX is, most of us learned something today.  If any 
interest or know someone who might be, email me me off line @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks all & have a great day.  End of topic.   


Phil G. 65 SS  MCC#36  ACES#555  TC#1766  VCCA  LGC  AMCA#1321   


-Original Message-
From: Terry S Hodges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List ; The Chevelle 
Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:05 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bike for sale



This might explain why they are so popular. I tried to buy one several years 
ago restored...Wished I had tried harder..

 













1979 Honda CBX



















A 1000cc 6 cylinder motorcycle which was the first over 100 HP production 
motorcycle. It had to be detuned in Europe to be legal. One of Honda’s 
engineering exercises. As one journalist put it, "6 cylinders, 24 valves and no 
common sense". Production lasted only from 1979 to 1982 because they were not 
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[Chevelle-list] Bike for sale

[plgchevelle65]

Hi guys:? I realize this is off topic & I appologize but I also respect the 
knowledge & integrity of the people on the list so I wanted to start here.?? 

I have a friend with a 1979 Honda CBX SS for sale.? I know virtually nothing 
about bikes but I know many of you guys do,? The details are as follows:
It is complete,?unrestored & currently not running.??The engine is bored to 
1250cc, modified with Carillo?rods & has an American Turbo Pak turbocharger not 
currently installed.? 6k original miles & original front tire.? Original?silver 
paint not faded & no dents.? He is the second owner & it has been stored for 
years.? It is in the Rockville, Maryland area & he is asking $3300.? I only 
know that these were only made for a few years, were big road bikes, & there is 
a following out there just like we follow Chevelles.? If anyone is interested 
Or knows any interested CBX people, please email me off the list @ [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]& I will get you in contact with the owner.? He?does not have 
internet access or LD call out capabilities but can receive calls.? Thanks guys 
& again I appologize for being off topic.? 


Phil G. 65 SS


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Touch?

[plgchevelle65]

You're OK Rick.??It's the seller of?the car you described that's out of touch 
with reality.? Unless a 65 is an original?L-79 or one of the 201 BB 
Z-16's,?it's not worth much at all in poor condition.? An original L-79 or Z-16 
might?bring the kind of $$ you mentioned only if the buyer has a burning 
desire?for a 65.??I have a fairly nice 65 SS and am aware that the 66-72 BB 
models are more in demand & bring much higher prices.? I can't even guess what 
the car you saw is worth but shooting from the hip I'd say probably $4-6k and 
only to the right person.? Sounds like it might be a project car or on it's way 
to a parts car.? Keep looking.? They're out there in your price range.? Sellers 
exploit but cash talks!!?


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 1:09 pm
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Out of Touch?



 Please let me know if I'm totally out of touch with reality :).??

?

? Yesterday I went to look at a 65 chevelle malibu?convertible.? White with 
blue interior, reported to be "numbers matching". It was a 30 footer at 
best.?? Panels were generally straight, some peeling & cracking of paint 
between the trunk lid & top well.? Passenger front fender was pushed in right 
at the front corner, looked like they sideswiped a garage door.??? Looked like 
a 10 year old Earl Sheib?paint job.?? Interior looked like it was recently 
done.?? Door panels looked original with repair carpeting added at the bottom 6 
inches-I don't think that was original.? Carpet good,? Front bench?seat cover 
looked relatively new & clean except for a 2 inch gash under the drivers 
butt.??? Recent aftermarket A/C added but the water pump pulley had no 
provision for a belt? Motor looked like it could have been original.?? 

?

As I raised the hood to look at motor I asked how much.??? 20K!? And the look 
on my face must have confused the girl, she said, oh wait a minute let me check 
the list inside.? A minute later she returned Oh I was wrong its 30K!? What the 
heck are these dealers smoking? I went in thinking it would be in the 
10-15K range.? It was certainly an OK driver but 30K is premium money for a 65 
- at least I think it is. 

?

I went there with the intent of really looking it over good, but decided there 
was no point for further discussion.??? Is it possible/likely/reasonable to 
look for a 65 convertible in the 10-15 K range that isn't a basket case?? Or am 
I really out of touch with the market.? 

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

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Re: [Chevelle-list] California Redneck

[plgchevelle65]

It's only illegal if you get caught with it!!?? 

Not a user.? Just a child of the 60's!! 


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] California Redneck



Not here at the Cannibus Clubs...


> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 03:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
> Subject:  Re: [Chevelle-list] California Redneck
> 
> HEY Is pot illegal
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You know you're from California if: 
> >
> > 1.  Your coworker has 8 body piercings and none are visible. 
> >
> > 2.  You make over $300,000 and still can't afford a house. 
> >
> > 3.  You take a bus and are shocked at two people carrying on a conversation 
in English. 
> >
> > 4. Your child's 3rd-grade teacher has purple hair, a nose ring, and is 
> > named 
Flower. 
> >
> > 5.  You can't remember . . Is pot illegal? 
> >
> > 6.  You've been to a baby shower that has two mothers and a sperm donor. 
> >
> > 7.  You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee beans are grown, 
and you can taste the difference between Sumatran and Ethiopian. 
> >
> > 8.  You can't remember . .. . Is pot  illegal? 
> >
> > 9. A really great parking space can totally move you to tears. 
> >
> > 10.  Gas costs $1.00 per gallon more than anywhere else in the  U.S. 
> >
> > 11.  Unlike back home, the guy at 8:30 am at Starbucks  wearing a baseball 
cap and sunglasses who looks like George Clooney really IS George Clooney. 
> >
> > 12.  Your car insurance costs as much as your house payment. 
> >
> > 13.  You can't remember . .. .is pot  illegal? 
> >
> > 14.  It's barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news 
> > station: 
"STORM WATCH." 
> >
> > 15  You pass an elementary school playground and the children are all busy 
with their cells or pagers. 
> >
> > 16. It's barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour 
> > early 
to avoid all the weather-related accidents. 
> >
> > 17.  HEY Is pot illegal 
> >
> > 18. Both you AND your dog have therapists, psychics, personal trainers and 
cosmetic surgeons. 
> >
> > 19. The Terminator is your Governor. 
> >
> > 20.  If you drive illegally, they take your driver's license. If you're 
> > here 
illegally, they want to give you  one.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Holley or Edelbrock

[plgchevelle65]

Anyone have anything good to say about a Demon carb?  I went from a worn out 
Holley 650 DP to a 750 Demon w/mech secondaries but the 5 mpg was to much!  
Swapped it for a 650 Demon with mech sec.  Mpg up to 10 -11 mostly highway 
which I can live with.  Neither was an out of the box job.  Both needed alot of 
work.  Low end drivability is not much.  Going thru the gears & top end is 
great.  Won't idle til completely warm and a PITA at all stops.  Got to keep 
the revs up to take off.  Feels like a close box & no rear gears.  Well it's a 
252 first & a 3.73 rear.  Cam is a Comp 274 Hi Energy Xtreme, 236 dur 490 
lift.  Down from a 284 in the six yrs I've owned it.  The guy at BG says too 
much cam & go to a 575.  Wouldn't that kill the performance!!!  I've got a TKO 
600 with a 2.87 first going in this winter which may solve it all and give me 
both low end drivability & 1/4 mile performance.  Why don't I go with an 
Edelbrock which most people say are great right out the box?  Probably the 
Look.  Some of us just prefer the Holley/Demon look.  All thoughts, comments, 
ideas, advice, or just ventilation appreciated. 

For anyone that was at the MCC/ACES show at North East, MD Sat and/or Sun, 
wasn't that "Some Show"? Over 200 Chevelles, great weather and great people.  
That loaded 383 stroker that was given away kept most everyone til the end!  I 
applaud the MCC leadership and all my hard working fellow and fellowette 
members for another terrific show and a Great 
weekend!!!  


Phil G. 65 SS


-Original Message-
From: BAINEY, WALTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Holley or Edelbrock



The 600 cfm vacuum secondary Holley is the most inconsistant pita carb I have 
worked with.  If you go holley make it a double pumper.   Quadrajets and 
Edelbrocks will work well too.
My .02
Walt

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sun Jun 24 15:27:42 2007
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Holley or Edelbrock

I know what you mean Howard...My 327 has a mild cam..465 lift 224 duration 
@.050 on both intake and exhaust...headers...roller rockersweiand stealth 
dual plane intake and a couple other small bolt-ons...I know Holleys are good 
once you get them right..but man..I just can't seem to find that spot..I've 
just heard that the Edelbrock is a much more forgiving carb if you know what I 
mean...
John




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Insufficient REMOVAL criteria.

[plgchevelle65]

That was Priceless!!  Made my day.  Thanks. 
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
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To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Insufficient REMOVAL criteria.


Hello ALL, 
 
For the blessed event of removal from mailing list to occur, one need be 
cognizant of the procedures involved. 
One obviously cannot simply remove oneself apparently without a lot of hand 
holding and parental guidance reminiscient of when one was in Elementary school 
and one was duly reprimanded for something like tossing gum at girls, putting 
tacks on seats, or flatulating in class. 
The inconsistency of the mental awareness seemingly inherrent in individuals 
who cannot grasp the minor ability to simply UN REGISTER themselves is quite 
comparable to the mental obscurity of our current pathetic puppet president. 
Since y'all cannot comprehend the simplictics available through the 
Craft-O-Matic (thank you) unsubscribe routine, there is NO HOPE for ya. 
You'll merely have to accept ALL INCOMING E-MAILS as there will be many more to 
come, and you'll have to change your profile to incorporate that of which you 
have become--a drooling, sniveling, incomplete Human being, subject to ANY form 
of sarcasm ANYONE sees fit to have you incur. 
Since you don't like where you are, go be somewhere else where your kind is 
accepted like at the Salvation Army. There you should have no problem with 
mental compatibility for explanations of things will be on a par with our 
excuse of a president and you. 
 
Stumble away as quickly as possible!! 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Please remove me from mailinglist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[plgchevelle65]

Ditto!!!  And I Love this List!!! Am on it for life.  Of course being a 
lifelong Chevelle owner and having more than just a casual interest, I'm 
biased!  Thanks guys for all for the knowledge, experience, wisdom, 
camaraderie, and of course the Fun!  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
ACES #555   MCC #36   TC #1766
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please remove me from 
mailinglist


I like that reply Bill. I get such a big laugh every time this happens.
I saw this thread this morning after working all night and I just about
laughed so hard that I could have awakened every one in the house. This
is all done in good clean fun, just like the fun we have when we get
together at our local cruise nights. This list is like a BS session at
our local cruise nights, along with all the good information we get from
the members of this list when we have a problem. So lighten up a bit and
enjoy the list for what it is, a bunch of people that get together who
have the common interest of Chevelles.

John L.
ACES #5597
70 LS5 TRIBUTE
http://chevellfan.com/index89.html
http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Lessenberry
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:05 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please remove me from
mailinglist


You, sir, fail to understand.  This has been going on (both, the 
misguided souls who want off of the list, and the smart a$$es who 
give the instructions) for at least 4 or 5 years now.  It's a part of 
our heritage, we will never give it up, and we will welcome any new 
smart a$$ comments that would be good enough to copy & paste into the 
replies.  BTW, your caps lock is stuck on, all of your words are 
capitalized; makes it hard to read.
BillL


At 07:13 PM 2/22/2007, you wrote:
>***
>**
>C"mon Guy"s Just Because one Guy Can't Seem To Find his Way Off The 
>List. It Doesn't Help Everybody Replies And Screw"s It Up For 
>Everbody Else. Who Wants There Mailbox Full Of This Crap. Grow Up 
>And Ignore The E-Mail If Everybody Replys To It It Just Ruin"s The 
>List. Chev702

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost

[plgchevelle65]

Hey Donnie:  That's alot of $ you got going into that car.  We must be 
paying you too much as MCC Prez!!  LOL!!   You are correct.  To do something 
right costs.  Whether it's time or money.  Do it right, do it once and you'll 
never regret it!!  Hell, it's only money.  The payback is when the Chevelle 
looks good, is dependable & runs good, & you're out cruising!  Nothing 
like it.  Just count all the thumbs up you get.  Many guys dream.  We get to 
live it!!!  In my opinion, worth every $ I got in my car!!  Good luck on 
the resto.
 
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
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To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost


Amen Mike.  
 
Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't mean better.  
 
For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off restoration on ... I had both 
quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front fenders (NOS), 
trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of 
the other rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed and the rest of 
the body smoothed.  The car is now 100% rust free.  Cost including parts was 
about $6500.  This was with me and my friend Tom taking the car apart, sanding 
down the areas that were not going to be replaced down to metal and completely 
stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping out with the body work 
(grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks.  
 
I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we started removing sheet metal, 
we found other areas that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the 
start.  Luckily my body man is one of the best in the business and he was able 
to make most of what we needed on the spot.  While the quarters were off, we 
POR-15'd all exposed metal.  Needed.. maybe not... but good insurance!!  He 
also "suggested" we fix other things while we were doing it... kind of pay me 
now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it.  He is a good friend, so 
ripping me off was not even in the equation.  So after $2000 more than I had 
budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was ready to take home.
 
The car still needs to be final block sanded a few times to get it 100% ready 
for paint... which will probably cost about another $1000 or so.  Then add 
about another $3500 for paint.  
 
Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to do it right.
 
Good Luck!!
 
Donnie

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Re: [Chevelle-list] the list.

[plgchevelle65]

Welcome to the List Howard.  FOR LIFE!!!  Yes, Chevy's do rule.  Especially 
Chevelles!!!  
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] the list.


Sorry about opening a large can of worms.

I thought my message was going to the main office.

I thought the list was kind of boring,but I was wrong.

After quite a few read me the riot act.It shows me

that you do have something worth while to say. I hope

this will be my last blunder.

Chevy's Rule!

Howard.

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Re: [Chevelle-list] The List.

[plgchevelle65]

Get him guys!!!  Make my day.   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
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Sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] The List.


Take me off the list.

Thanks,

HowardH

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Unsubscribe!

[plgchevelle65]

You did FINE Pelle!!!  You write "Chevellese" very well!!! 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
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-Original Message- 
From: Pelle Andersson 
Sent: Jan 31, 2007 11:42 AM 
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Unsubscribe! 


I don’t think I’ll ever unsubscribe from this list now!?
I subscribed to this list only a few weeks after I bought my Chevelle (my first 
muscle car ever)
I’d feel rude, like telling a dear friend to p… off without any reason.
You’ve guided me through the hard times when I’ve hated the car.
You helped me when I was a total rookie.
I almost planned to sell her once but thanks to you I’ve kept on tinkering J
 
Going up north in Mars to get another load of parts imported from “over there”
And it’s like Christmas every time J
 
Thanks to all of you!
I’ll be pestering you with stupid Q:s for a while longer ;-)
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] take me off this list

[plgchevelle65]

As always, it made my day.  I Love The List!!  That guy was a little LOUD 
wasn't he.  Be Gone!!!  And don't come back when you need some help or 
expertise.  Just pull your car under a shade tree & repeat whatever it is 
you're doing over & over again cause it ain't working right & you can't figure 
it out.  Sorry guys.  Some days ya just feel kinda of nasty to these people.
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
 
 
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[Chevelle-list] Tremec 5 Speed

[plgchevelle65]

Good afternoon Chevelle List:  I am planning to have a Tremec 5 Speed installed 
in my car this spring.  I am requesting any & all thoughts & advice, even if 
it's just thinking out loud.  This is an expensive item and a one shot deal for 
me so if there is any info or experiences out there I should know about, please 
don't be shy!
 
Aside from normal installation situations, one item that has been brought to my 
attention is that there have been problems & difficulty in power shifting at 
high rpms from 2nd to 3rd.  The car is a fair weather weekend driver only, an 
occassional, OK, more than occassional few gears on the street, with a trip to 
the drags once or twice a summer.  My reflexes aren't what they were 40 years 
ago & I don't do power shifting anymore anyway.  The next item is whether to go 
with the .64 or .82 5th gear.  Would I be giving up all top end punch with the 
.64 for the sake of really low highway rpms or would the .82 put me whare I 
want to be & still give it some power if needed.  I've done the math on the web 
calculators but it appears to be a judgement call.  1st gear will be 2.87 and 
the rear will be a Moser posi 3.73.  The car is a 65 SS with a .40 over 327, 
Muncie M-20 with Hurst, Edelbrock Alum heads & manifold, Demon 750, Comp Cams 
274 Extreme, MSD, and Hedman.  It currently cruises the highway at 3400 rpm at 
65mph with 215x75x15 redline tires.  Mostly Show but its got plenty of Go.  I'm 
looking maintain performance & make it highway enjoyable.   All thoughts, 
ideas, and any experiences you're willing to share will be greatly appreciated. 
 Sorry for the long entry.  Had to get all my thought down.  Thank You All.
   
Phil G. 65 SS  ACES/MCC/LGC/VCCA 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Testing New Email

[plgchevelle65]

No problem.  I like the new sign on name too.   


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Testing New Email









Just making sure this is going through.


 


Tom




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Small Rant: Customer Service

[plgchevelle65]

Been there.  Had it happen.  Sometimes you get a telephone order taker with not much auto knowledge and not a clue how to deal with & provide service to people.  When you get a good one, even though they don't want the liability for wrong parts or advice, etc., they will talk to you or they will transfer you.  The big parts places have separate lines for orders and for orders that need assistance determining the right choice.  I had a guy get nasty once & when he finally got the order right, he sent me the wrong size anyway.  Had to mail it all back at the company's expense & reorder.  We all lose.  I made sure to lodge a formal complaint.  I was very diplomatic & civil about it even though I was really pissed off.  I would hope the company appreciated my telling them that this guy was costing them $$.  Call Summit & tell them what happened.  They know that wives & girlfriends call all the time & they need to know if they have someone on the lines acting like that person did.  I hope you have his name.  Good Luck.  BTW, I've done the same Summit to Jeg's thing B4 also.     


 


 


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Small Rant: Customer Service





I know there are a few people here who have their own shops, so I figured
I'd share a small rant.

As some of you know, I'm doing a (rather slow) complete frame off resto-mod.
This will likely entail the replacement or rehab of literally everything on
the car.  In other words, I will be buying a LOAD of parts and supplies for
this job.

My wife just called Summit Racing to buy some X-mas presents for my car.
She had credit card in-hand and was ready to blow a load of cash.  However,
she was treated rudely by the person on the phone. They treated her like she
was some kind of dummy, so she hung up and told me.

I've been a Summit customer since I bought my first car, 15 years ago. I've
been an extremely loyal customer all this time, buying tens of thousands of
dollars worth of parts for 5 different cars.

I just gave my wife the # for Jeg's.



Karl Groves
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Next MCC Meeting?

[plgchevelle65]

Pres. Donnie Gates said there will be a short meeting at the UPS Show in Laurel on Oct. 14.  There is usually a good number of MCC members that attend this show.  Depending on who you talk to, there were 800-900 cars there last year.  The MCC helped judge.  I haven't heard anything about the judging procedures for this year yet, but based on last year they kept it simple.  So it's not a big deal & about an hour if we do it again.   


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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Sent: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:55 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Next MCC Meeting?





Hey, can anyone out there give me the date/time/location of the next MCC
meeting?
Thanks

Karl Groves
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Re: [Chevelle-list] '66 roof body work

[plgchevelle65]

What do you mean "up until a few years ago"?  Doesn't everyone still have one in their garage???


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
-Original Message-
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To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] '66 roof body work







Yeah! I remember those oil cans! Up until a few years ago, I still had one of those old metal spouts you had to stab into the top of the can.


 


 


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From: Shawn Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:18 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] '66 roof body work





It's a shallow dent in the metal that will 'pop' in and out where the metal stretched just enough. The name refers to the old metal lidded oil cans that would do the same thing when you squeezed the sides. Does anyone remember the old oil cans that you had to have a spout for? What about rotary phones? God I feel old. 






--


Shawn


'69 Corvette 427 4-Speed


'69 Chevelle SS 396 4-Speed


'69 Charger R/T 383 4-Speed


'67 Chevy C-10 3-On The Tree


'00 Suzuki GSX-R 750 1-Down, 5-Up






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what is oil canning?







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Re: [Chevelle-list] unsubscribe me please

[plgchevelle65]

Always a pleasure to read the instructions.  I know it's coming when some lame-o says get me off this list!!!  


Thanks again for making my day.  All in fun fellas.  All in fun!!   


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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Sent: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:26 AM
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At 09:05 AM 8/17/2006, you wrote: 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Trouble with the starter on the 69 Chevelle

[plgchevelle65]

I always start with the easiest fix.  No juice, no click, no nothing & the acc's work.  Assuming it's a good battery, dirty or poor battery contacts.  It's not the corrosion you can see, it's what you can't see between the cables & the posts.  Try cleaning the cables & posts & check all contacts.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think the hot weather may also have an effect on a corrosive lead contact.  I earned a steak dinner & a night with a pretty girl on this exact thing many, many, many years ago!!  


  


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Trouble with the starter on the 69 Chevelle









A member of mine is having problems with his starter??  You guys have any suggestions??  Here's his story


 


Morning guys (or gals, depending on who opens this email),


 


I’m having trouble with the starter on the Chevelle. Last night I went to start the car it wouldn’t start. Turn the key and nothing. No click, no nothing. Everything else works, headlights, radio, interior light, etc. I was able to jump start the car by coasting and letting the clutch out. It took me about twenty-five minutes to get home. I turned the car off once in the garage, then tried starting the car again. The car started without hesitation. This is typical when ever I experience this problem. This might happen twice in a week or it may happen once every couple months. The only consistency is it never seems to happen in cool weather.


 


I’m considering the following items next,


- by passing the neutral safety switch.


- installing a new ignition switch.


 


A little history,


 


This started around three years ago. At that time I had a rebuilt GM high torque starter. I installed a reduction starter from Jeg’s about six weeks ago giving into the heat soak theory with the stock starter and headers. I considered changing the battery cable along with the starter but it looked in perfect shape, no damage or corrosion.


 


Any ideas or suggestions?


 


 


Thanks in advance!


 


Donnie


 





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Off Topic

[plgchevelle65]

No offense to the older guys out there but I remember much of the 50's as a little boy.  Ages 3-11 to be exact.  Not to start a debate but I prefer the 60's!!!   Anyone go for the 70's???   If you go to some of the VCCA shows, you'll get to see & hang with the 40's crowd.  Life goes on fellas.  Enjoy it while you can.  And you can bet it's mopre fun with and in a CHEVELLE!  Nuff said.       


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Off Topic





That is so cool.  Anyone else look further:  http://oldfortyfives.com/TakeMeBackToTheFifties.htm Don't get me to remeniscing (sp??)



On 7/25/06, John Nasta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 








But in '69 you were 21 and you called the road your own.


 


 






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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Off Topic










 


Been there.  Done that.  And remember it well.  Y'all remember the Jackson Browne song "Running on empty"?  Well, in '65 I was 17!!!   Thanks for the memories.    


 


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 


 
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Off Topic




For those of you who made it thru the 60's, will appreciate this .   Others can learn more about simpler, good times and music.  Not too much about cars.





Enjoy!!


 


http://oldfortyfives.com/TakeMeBackToTheSixties.htm




















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Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Off Topic

[plgchevelle65]

Been there.  Done that.  And remember it well.  Y'all remember the Jackson Browne song "Running on empty"?  Well, in '65 I was 17!!!   Thanks for the memories.   

 


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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For those of you who made it thru the 60's, will appreciate this .   Others can learn more about simpler, good times and music.  Not too much about cars.


Enjoy!!


 


http://oldfortyfives.com/TakeMeBackToTheSixties.htm





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Optima full ride

[plgchevelle65]

Voted too!   


 


Phil G. 65 SS


 
 
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Sent: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Optima full ride





Voted!

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> -Original Message-
> From: Herb Lumpp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:24 AM
> To: Chevelle List
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Optima full ride
> 
> Here's a chance to help one of our own.  Maybe you've seen 
> the Optima ad in the magazines talking about a contest where 
> the winner will get up to $50k worth of upgrades done to 
> his/her car.  Go to this link and vote for the Chevelle.  I 
> don't know the guy but I'd rather see a Chevelle get the win 
> than a SRT-4, a Mustang, a Silverado, or a Jeep.
> 
> http://www.optimafullride.com/
> 
> 
> Herb Lumpp
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> 
> 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] MCC show

[plgchevelle65]

That's being positive!  Give em' Hell JJ!!  We'll be there anyway.  "Come rain or come shine!"  Catchy little tune don'tcha think?     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Fig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:47:39 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] MCC show


wait a day or two... they never know what our weather
will be like until AFTER it happens

--- John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just FYI, weather.com says there's going to be
> scattered thunderstorms all
> weekend in northern MD.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] MCC show

[plgchevelle65]

Hey John:  We don't want to hear it!  LOL!  Some of us are committed.  Paddled up there B4 & will do it again.  Rain or shine the MCC 19th Annual Show is a GO!!  Besides, when we had the big rain 4 years ago, I found all my leaks.  I'm solid now!!  Looking forward to meeting you.  Be there.  You can hang out with us drivers & watch all the trailer queens scurry at the first drop!!  Just kidding guys.  No offense.     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:08:31 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] MCC show


Just FYI, weather.com says there's going to be scattered thunderstorms all
weekend in northern MD.




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Re: [Chevelle-list] I'm out!

[plgchevelle65]

Best of Life to you & Carol.  Hope your move is trouble free.  Look forward to seeing you back on the List.  
 
Phil G. 65 SS   MCC
  -Original Message-From: mike kirkland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:58:43 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] I'm out!


Take Care Herb, look forward to you getting back up.  Michael  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List  >To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] I'm out! >Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:53:19 EDT > > >In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:52:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Hey guys, I'm out of here for a while. We're heading to my new duty >assignment and into our new house tomorrow morning. As soon as I get my >new >internet service going I'll be back online! Later! > >Herb Lumpp >http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > > >Good Luck Herb! > >Tom   

Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members

[plgchevelle65]

Charter Member #555 of first 1000 & got the T-shirt to prove it!!  Thanks Chuck!!     
 
Phil G. 65 SS  Maryland CC 
  -Original Message-From: Larry Shouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:12:42 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members





#6875 here. Getting ready to renew for the first time.
 
Larry Shouse

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] ACES members

I know we have around 400 subscribers on this mailing list. Just curious but how many of you are current ACES members?
Member #1650 here.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger For Salehttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...

[plgchevelle65]

Yeah Bill.  The 67 is a keeper!  5 years!  You're just getting to know each other.  Give us a status report at 10. 
Truth is, for those of us at near 30 and plus years, it just keeps getting better.  The kids are growing or gone & life is Good.  A Chevelle can be the icing on the cake.  Sweet Deal!!  But it takes work & communication.  But it's worth it.  No regrets at 27+ going for forever  And mine is not a Chevelle lover but she supports me and in return I support her interests.  No really.  I do  C'mon guys.  Really.  A little time, a movie, dinner, etc., and some charm go along way when expensive new parts are needed.  Try it    
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Bradley IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:53:22 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...



i'd say i've had mine, truth is she has me. and its been almost five years and never had a fight. hell, she bought the chevelle for me, now thats a keeper!
 
Bill Bradley
 
67 Malibu
 
Edmond Oklahoma
 

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...

Sounds like a common thread among many of us Chevelle/El Camino owners. Glad to have you all as friends.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

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Almost 28 and no problems spending $$ on the 65!!!   She's a keeper too!!!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: The Hanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Amen to that,  29 years here. 
David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX 


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse
You know you have a good thing going when you can say you've been married to the same lady for more than half your life. Our 26th is coming up this summer.
 
Larry Shouse

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper 

Working on 33yrs here too,Larry.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Actually my question to Herb should of been " Is the move a good or bad move?" I'm sure from what I have heard that Herb has a fine Lady. I too happen to be one of the lucky guys with a top notch mate. Just celebrated our 33 year of bliss (Boy time goes by fast - Seems like just yesterday we tied the knot- Wish it was - I'd get it annulled - JUST KIDDING!)
Larry (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...

[plgchevelle65]

Almost 28 and no problems spending $$ on the 65!!!   She's a keeper too!!!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: The Hanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:03:15 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...





Amen to that,  29 years here. 
David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX 


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:15 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...
You know you have a good thing going when you can say you've been married to the same lady for more than half your life. Our 26th is coming up this summer.
 
Larry Shouse

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New location...

Working on 33yrs here too,Larry.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Actually my question to Herb should of been " Is the move a good or bad move?" I'm sure from what I have heard that Herb has a fine Lady. I too happen to be one of the lucky guys with a top notch mate. Just celebrated our 33 year of bliss (Boy time goes by fast - Seems like just yesterday we tied the knot- Wish it was - I'd get it annulled - JUST KIDDING!)
Larry (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-list] air filters?

[plgchevelle65]

Eddie:  I have a K&N & like it.  It looks great & research has shown better air flow, filtering and a slight HP gain.  They are expensive to buy but have a 1,000,000 mile life span.  I wash, clean & oil mine in the spring & it lasts all season til it goes to sleep in October.  You have to buy the K&N recharge kit to maintain it.  Costs about $9.95 for the cleaner & oil which can last 2x.  Unless your car is stock, no reason to use the paper element.  Besides they tend to look ratty after a while.  I notice some beautiful cars at shows with modified engines & these nasty paper filters.  When I try to be constructive & mention to someone that their modified engine deserves better than that dirty paper filter, you'd think I called their kid ugly!  Some people are smart & keep a fresh one for shows but IMO they still don't look as nice as the K&N.  
 
Anyone know of other ways or products to clean & service the K&N's or is the recharge kit all their is?   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:23:18 +0800Subject: [Chevelle-list] air filters?


hey guys, I have another question.  I am going to get a new air filter soon and 
I was looking at the K&N Extreme filters they have and they state it adds more 
HP to your engine because it adds more air through.  It sounds good!  However, 
does anyone use these types of filter from K&N?  Are they good?  Any cons?  Or, 
should I stick with the old stock paper filter? thanks
-eddie-

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove Me from Mail Lis

[plgchevelle65]

Good one Dave.  I know I can always get a morning laugh to start the day.  Thank you List!!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Dave Corgill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:18:03 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove Me from Mail Lis


At 01:19 AM 4/12/2006, you wrote:
I'm trying to be nice about it. I just want off the list. I shouldn't have to have a reason! If you will not remove me, I will take other action.Oh no, you are going to get Mad & buy a F**D... 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove Me from Mail Lis

[plgchevelle65]

What other action is there?  That sounds like a threat!  Make his day.  Send him the instructions.  Always makes my day.  I LOVE THIS LIST!  I'm on it for LIFE even when I get to old to drive the 65 & have to sell it or pass it on to the kid who I think is waiting for me to drop anyway!!  I'm only 57 and healthy so I got a few good years left!!!  
 
Got to get ready for spring.  Hi-test at my local station is $3.02 & I need to fill up this weekend.  How do you young guys do it?     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:19:55 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove Me from Mail Lis



I'm trying to be nice about it. I just want off the list. I shouldn't have to have a reason! If you will not remove me, I will take other action.

Re: [Chevelle-list] Tire - Wheel Backspacing

[plgchevelle65]

Anyone have experiences & knowledge to share when you put a 68-72 12 bolt in a 64-67.  How do the sizes & backspacing numbers work then?  Biggest I could get in my 65 was 235's with standard Rallyes with I think 4" backspace.  And I got some rub on one side!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:31:35 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tire - Wheel Backspacing





A car's wheelwell doesn't know what size wheel you're using but the total width & diameter of the tire & wheel combo. But to answer your question,15" wheels will give you a much greater tire selection than 14" units.
1964-67's can handle up to a 285-width rear tire and 68-72's can handle up to a 315-width. Running these widths require getting the backspacing spot-on.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Haines 

Dale;
 
Thanks, already printed it out. If I wanted to stay with the same SS wheel but try to put larger tires do you have a recommendation? Would 15" be better and fit ok with bigger tire?
 
Steve

- Original Message - 
From: Dale 


While the results are the same, the terminology and measurement techniques are a bit different between the two.  Check this page on my web site; explains offset and backspacing pretty well.
 
http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/wheel_offset.htm
 

Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Haines
 

Question; 

 

Would someone on the list mind explaining wheel / tire backspacing? Remember on the Chevelle I had in high school when I put bigger tires on I had scraping issues. Especially on the rear. Been reading some posts on Team Chevelle and everyone talks about wheel and tire combinations in conjunction with backspacing. Is this some new stuff? I will probably be changing the tires and or wheels on the car I bought so I though I would start asking now. I believe the wheels on the car now are the stock 14" type SS wheel.

 

Thanks

 

Steve Haines

Granbury, Texas

Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle

[plgchevelle65]

Steve:  I've been following your mailings & replies.  See the point I was trying to make.  You'll be fine now.  Good Luck.  And again Wecome!!  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Steve Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:53:52 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle









Hey,
 
Thanks for eveyones input on my quest for the perfect 69. Very good points to consider and I now have some cars to check on regarding many of the concerns that you collectevly have mentioned.
 
Question, how important is complete numbers matching for a true SS? Many of the cars have engines and some trannys that have been updated or changed and might be the only significant item that does not match the original car.
 
Steve

Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle

[plgchevelle65]

Steve:  Welcome to the List.  Obviously you've got a few miles on you & a few dollars to spend.  I had a 65SS in 65.  After the Army, a few marriages & 3 kids, at the age of 52 I went looking for my dream.  You can call it a mid-life thing if you want.  Like yourself I'm not super mechanical.  I can do more with my head than I can with my hands.  But I also love driving my 65SS, having some knowledge & being around the shows & people. Occassionally you'll hear a remark about those who can do & those who buy.  Don't let it bother you.  If you look at what's going on in today's muscle car sales & auctions you'll see our generation doesn't have 10 years to build a car.  There are muscle car wizards out there that love to build & sell.  Those of us that can't build, love to drive & maintain, and share the passion.  Maintenance alone on one of these cars can be a full time spring to summer job!  Especially if you want to show it.  Once you buy, you'll want to add your own touches.  
 
The guys on this List are incredible.  The amount of expertise & knowledge is mind boggling.  No one holds back.  The name of the game is HELP & SHARING with RESPECT for all.  Indicate what area you live in & the guys will find you.  There are also Chevelle Clubs throughout the US, my own is the Maryland CC, check out our website, & National organizations such as ACES.  The List as well as all these other areas can be valuable when looking for the right car.  I found mine on the List & had it shipped from the west coast almost 5 years ago.  The process took about 3 months to complete from search to delivery.  Once again Good Luck & Welcome to the List.  Be careful when talking to strangers & utilize & listen to these guys on the List.  They won't steer you wrong!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Steve Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:03:26 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle





Danny;
 
Thanks for your response and comments. My perfect car is the one I had in high school (1970-1974) a 69 Chevelle SS-396 (not sure hp I had) Lemans Blue hard top with white vinyl roof and two racing stripes down hood and trunk with white pin stripes on the side. While my car had bench seats, black interior and column shift automatic I would like to have what I always wanted the car to have, bucket seats and 4 speed transmission. Would like to find one with factory air as I don't imagine I will be as concerned about racing it now as I was then but rather be more concerned with my wife being happy with air conditioner. I believe the car would really have looked better with a white interior for seats and that's what I would like now as I am probably better equipped to take care of them.
 
Danny, finding this car is probably like looking for a needle in a hay stack however that is the perfect car for me. I just want to try to find one as close to this configuration as possible. As far as price I am fairly flexible based on the quality of the car in relation to what it is worth. I am open to a fully restored car done by a quality restoration facility or a really clean car that would be fun to own and drive. In dollar terms say from 15,000 to 50,000. Due to business commitments I don't have a lot of spare time and am not really mechanically inclined but do enjoy driving the cars and being around people and events that share the same passion.
 
Does this help for starters?
 
Steve

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Wilsher 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle

Steve, you may have got more than you expected here. There are numerous 69 SS owners here and they are all way more helpful than you can imagine. It would also help if you would let us know what shape of car you are looking for. And a price range that you are willing ot spend and i bet these guys will hook you up!! My son just sold one about a month ago but it was a project car. Good luck on your search. And your question is totally appropraite.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Haines 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle

I will start by saying that I am new to the list and would like to ask in advance for your patience if I am posting a question that is inappropriate for this list. I would also appreciate someone letting me know if it is not an appropriate question.
 
I joined the list just a few days ago after finding the web site while doing some searches on Google. Once I joined I was amazed at the amount of talent and information that existed within this group. I am trying to find a 1969 Chevelle SS-396 to purchase and have been looking and searching for some time to try and locate the right car. I know what I want and have found a few cars that would come close however the fact that I am a novice ultimately undermines m

Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

[plgchevelle65]

Sounds like this guy is his worst enemy.  I'd bet he has a life degree in "insensitivity and ignorance."  Just get him off the list.  We don't need this.  Sorry guys.  I just had to chime in.  "And yes Vin, we may not have an idea of your knowledge, but we have an idea of your intelligence"!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: vin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:22:18 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires





if you can't take a little heat,then get up and leave, you guy's are so sensitive besides go fu--yourself. this chevelle list is like listening to a kindergarten class,don't worry I'll never reply again I don't need your help,you have no idea of my knowledge. 

- Original Message - 
From: Karl Groves 
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

Regardless of whether his question was "dumb" or not, that doesn't give you a right to act like a dick.
Give a helpful answer or delete the message and let someone else more mature give the answer.
 
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.comWill Work For Parts:http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3 
 



From: vin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:47 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

you do engine work for 40 years and you need to ask the question should I use wire looms??? now you know why I said what I said.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires


Hi Karl,
I've been doing engine work for over 40 years and am just about to fire up my brand new 350.  I was considering doing it without ignition wire looms but am now rethinking it.  My ignorance about whether it would harm the silicone wires was easily cured by asking the Chevelle list, I keep my laptop in the garage while working there.
 
Unfortunately, for Vin to learn punctuation and capitalization will require several years of middle school and high school English classes.
 
Thanks for the help.
 
Dennis
 

- Original Message - 
From: Karl Groves 
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' ; 'Dennis McGillis' 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

This, coming from the guy whose grammatical masterpieces include:
"just drain the oil's and fuel start a new you'll be fine"
"people are there worst enemy to them selves."
and:
"very cool---I've after being in auto bus. alot off stuff is interchangeable."
 
or this wonderful, oh-so-cohesive treatise:
http://chevelles.net/pipermail/chevelle-list_chevelles.net/2006-February/019368.html
 
Really now. I think you have little room to be calling other people "the dumbest dumb people" when you can't manage basic grammar & spelling or form a cohesive thought.
 
Was Dennis' question kind of "dumb"?  Yeah, but he's probably new to this kind of stuff.  You, on the other hand, are obviously an adult, yet you lack the intellectual fortitude to properly use homophones, which kids learn in 2nd grade.
 
Don't be a dick when someone doesn't know something that you do. Ignore their question, or offer up a helpful answer.
 
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.comWill Work For Parts:http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3 
 



From: vin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:57 AMTo: Dennis McGillis; The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

you guys are the dumbest dumb people

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis McGillis 
To: Clint Hooper ; The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

Thanks Clint, so if I lay them on the manifolds how they will suffer?  Will they melt, or short out?
Thanks,
Dennis
 

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper 
To: Dennis McGillis ; The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

Nope. They are heat-resistant,,not heat-proof.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis McGillis 

Can I lay my silicone plug wires right on the stock exhaust manifolds and expect them to survive without any problem?

 
Thanks,
Dennis McGillis
1965 Malibu SS-350

Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

[plgchevelle65]

Shawn:
Your reply is a good example of the level of respect that everyone on the list is entitled to.  Young, old, masters mechanics, novices, and shade trees.  Those who can do with their hands, and those who wish they could but love these cars nonetheless.  And for the few who can't respect everyone on this list-Get Off and take your insults elsewhere.  Thanks for speaking out Shawn.    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Shawn Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:07:11 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires


So you're saying that if someone honestly doesn't know something about their cars they shouldn't ask a question? Especially since you think that they are 'the dumbest dumb people'?  

 This list has the best mix of knowledgeable folks coupled with people who normally wouldn't even think about working on their car, but do because they can get good intelligent (for the most part) information, without being told they are dumb for asking. Sometimes people just need some reassurance that their line of thinking is correct so that they can move on with some confidence. 

Maturity and respect for fellow Chevelle owners is what make this list great. See if you can gather some up.


Shawn


On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:57 AM, vin wrote:

you guys are the dumbest dumb people

- Original Message -
From: Dennis McGillis
To: Clint Hooper ; The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

Thanks Clint, so if I lay them on the manifolds how they will suffer?  Will they melt, or short out?
Thanks,
Dennis
 

- Original Message -
From: Clint Hooper
To: Dennis McGillis ; The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Silicone Plug Wires

Nope. They are heat-resistant,,not heat-proof.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

- Original Message -
From: Dennis McGillis

Can I lay my silicone plug wires right on the stock exhaust manifolds and expect them to survive without any problem?

 
Thanks,
Dennis McGillis
1965 Malibu SS-350= 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 65

[plgchevelle65]

Somebody put this guy out of his misery the "List Way"!!  Make my day!!!  Thanks. 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:12:39 ESTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 65



PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST

Re: [Chevelle-list] new pictures of my 1969 El Camino

[plgchevelle65]

Am I the only one who think John needs a garage?  Hey John, you really need a garage!!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:36:16 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] new pictures of my 1969 El Camino


Just took these today:

http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/060213.html

[Chevelle-list] Local Chrome Plating

[plgchevelle65]

Good morning guys:
 
I got a Camaro friend looking for a good local Chroming company in the Wash., DC/MD Beltway/Balt/Northern VA area.  I've heard good things about Tri City in Tennessee but we're looking more local.  Not looking for any parts swapping company or middlemen.  Anybody got some good referrals?  Thanks.  

Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off-topic messages (was RE: FW: eSecurity Advisory: Blackmal Email Worm)

[plgchevelle65]

I knew all this was coming.  I've been laughing all day.  This is first a Chevelle List & a fun forum.  And we do get off list just like we're BS'ing, etc.  But it's fun & interesting.  Just keep religion & politics out.  I use the List for technical advice & enjoyment.  I don't have the computer knowledge to follow that long list of email rules nor do I want my life to be that rigid.  I make mistakes & miss gears on occassion but I try to be courteous.  Lighten up guys.  Keep it FUN!!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:25:18 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off-topic messages (was RE: FW: eSecurity Advisory: Blackmal Email Worm)



It is a fun forum , we have a way to un-sub, I'm sure someonewill post it..That's my cue!   :-)))To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. The unit can be obtained from most hardware stores and dental clinics. Be sure to obtain the proper permits to operate the unit from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Food and Drug Administration in Washington D.C. USA. Be sure to carefully unpack the kit and place each component in its accompanying mesh safety bag. Mount the Pershing DF4 mesinator on top of the perforated Gerring Mach 77 refibulator and attach them using the eight-millimeter torque fork. Be sure that the refibulator is mounted at a 66 degree angle and properly dispersed so that it is flush with the curved section of the Pyrex thistle tube. Place the four sections of the triangular separation gear into the posture cylinder and lock them into place using the band aid adhesive strip. Insert the wiggling pin into the wobbling hole, making sure that it seated correctly. Place the D cell battery and the eleven 9 volt batteries in the power chamber. The device should be calibrated before operation using the optional digital corkscrew accessory pack prior to operation. Insert the digital corkscrew through the electronic combustion service chamber using caution not to touch the reinforced tungsten igniter control module and quickly turn the inverter drive to 28.6 degrees. Turn the Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit upside down and hit the bottom plate with a 48-ounce ball-peen hammer while shaking the unit vigorously. Force open the door to the incineration valve compartment and set the pressure gauge to 719 psi. Close the door and seal it shut with duct tape. The unit should now be properly calibrated and ready to use. Before activating the Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit, you must first elevate it to a height of 229 feet above sea level to insure that the unit receives the proper oxygen level and barometric pressure. Point the aerial to 17 degrees north by northeast to within the parameters of the Telstar GS-2 weather satellite and apply pressure to the wing shaft on the southern most section of the modular accelerator. Using the special ratchet adapter supplied with the unit, rotate the heater core to the "on" position. The "on" position has been obtained when the green light begins to flash, signifying that the red light is about to go off. Once the red light is off, flip the toggle switch labeled "ON/OFF" to the "ON" position and count to 47 before logging on to the system. Logon using your username and password and wait for the prompt. Once prompted you must check the box with the appropriate action you wish to take and then press the pressure release button and turn off the compressor while turning the hand crank at 231 meters per minute. Next, press control, alt, delete, caps lock, shift, number lock, escape and tab simultaneously. Press enter. You will have one second to complete the procedure. If you fail to respond in the time limit allowed, simply purchase a new Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit and start from the beginning. Please remember that this is the only way we will accept for you to unsubscribe from this service. We have made every attempt to simplify the procedure for your convenience. Failure to comply with the unsubscribe policy will result in immediate termination of your subscription so please follow the above directions closely Regards The Chevelle List 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)

[plgchevelle65]

Again.  Well said Bill.  Thanks. 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:18:09 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)


No, too bad for you. I get my religion at church on Sunday. This is a site for cars, specifically Chevelles, and matters automotive. Please don't post religious or political topics. They will NOT be appreciated. BillL  At 07:04 PM 1/26/2006, you wrote: >TO BAD FOR YOU!!! >- Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List"  >Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:23 PM >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)  

Re: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)

[plgchevelle65]

I agree Clint.  Enough!!   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:23:45 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)


That's enough of the spam,Joe. Take it somewhere else.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: "joehvelarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Fw: Psalm 23 (For the Work Place)

Re: [Chevelle-list] Selling my chevelle

[plgchevelle65]

Found mine here on TC also.  Whenever I meet someone looking for or interested in Chevelles, I send them to Team Chevelle & MCC sites.  At shows I just refer them to the member decals on my window.  Even for young dreamers, there's plenty to see & learn on the these websites.  Locally, many of the state Chevelle clubs have good websites also.  The Maryland Chevelle Club is excellent but of course I'm biased!!  
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List ; The Chevelle Mailing List Cc: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:14:26 +Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Selling my chevelle



Team Chevelle is where I found mine.
 
Krister
 
-- Original message -- From: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Team Chevelle free classifieds  www.chevelles.com At 05:53 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
If a guy was thinking about selling his chevelle where is the best place on the internet to list it?ThanksJack's 66[Image removed]   

Re: [Chevelle-list] Barrett Jackson

[plgchevelle65]

I totally agree!  I've got a 327 SB in my 65 SS & it's as much a muscle car as a BB or a Hemi.  Runs strong, fun to drive & almost affordable to maintain.  It'll wind 7K and have the unsuspecting reaching for a roll of Charmin.  It's early muscle but absolutely muscle nontheless.  Ever been in a early high-po 289 Mustang?  Also SB muscle all the way!!       
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:48:00 -0700Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Barrett Jackson






I agree on the point that the market is going crazy. I thought last night was nuts ($205k for a z28?)..but when you think about it, certain cars like that Z28 or the '66 Chevelle are very rare finds, so what is the real value? I've seen it posted here before that it's whatever someone will pay for it. Not sure that's the way I'd go looking for an investment, but most of those guys aren't worried about that. It does bother me
 
As far as a 340 Cuda not being a performance car, I'll assume you've never driven a 340 car or maybe you did and it wasn't running right. It's like saying a small block 327 Chevelle isn't one. That little motor gets up and goes. It doesn't have to have a Hemi to be a performance/muscle car.
 
Ron
My '66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 
 
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry WilliamsSent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:05 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Barrett Jackson
 
I really have mixed emotions about what is happening with the classic 
car market.  On one hand it's really great to see guys make good money 
selling their cars, but I just think the rich crowd has gone way 
overboard.  These guys have priced the middle class blue collar car 
collect/DRIVER (like me) out of the market.  These guys even paid 61 Gs 
for a 340 ci 71 Cuda.   It was nice, but not even a performance car 
except for a 4 sp.  The real /hot rods/ just seemed to break even.  My 
65 SS will never make it to
BJ, but then again I drive it when I can, and even bang a few 6000 rpm 
shifts. 
 
Larry Williams
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
>Wow, I have a super nice 66-396-375-4spd with 45,500 origional miles. For half of the BJ sale price I might consider selling it.(not really)
>My son is the second owner of an origional, beautiful 68 hemi Charger. Gulp, what would that bring at BJ.
>gm66
> 
>--- "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>From: "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:37:50 -0600
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,     "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" 
>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Barrett Jackson
> 
>The 66SS was suppose to be a 10K mile original and highly optioned; 4-spd,
>360hp, etc.  I thought it was $125k as well but the BJ website says $135k
>(lot 731 -
>http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/bj06results_s10.asp if
>that's the same car). Maybe sometimes underwriters aren't all that naïve.
>Many cars there are bought from the heart and not the head.  Except for
>reported mileage there was nothing really that special about the car, IMHO.
> 
>Dale McIntosh 
>67 El Camino 
>1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available!   
>ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 
> 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex LaRue
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:04 AM
>To: The Chevelle Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Barrett Jackson
> 
>I tuned in late last night and caught em putin the hammer down on a Red 66
>SS for $125,000.  Can anyone give me the details that made this one that
>special? We use Barrett Jackson, Mecum, Kruse and other auctions as
>comparables when insuring high dollar cars. Sometimes the underwriters just
>don't understand and you have to show proof. On another note, I have an old
>68 Malibu out back that I am thinking about sticking a Hemi in and running
>it through BJ in the fall. Anyone know where I can get a set of motor mounts
>for that???  (all in jest of course unless I could find one of those Smokey
>Yunick Hemis).
> 
> 
>Alex LaRue
>LaRue Insurance
>   Personal & Business Insurance
>   Collector Car Insurance
>   Life Insurance
>P O Box 119
>Hodgenville, KY  42748
>800-303-3518   Fax 270-358-8978
> 
>Visit us online at www.LaRueInsurance.net or www.LaRueClassics.com
> 
>Join President Bush and a host of others here in Hodgenville on February
>12th, 2008 to kickoff the two year Lincoln Bicentennial Celebration!!!
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:13 PM
>To: The Chevelle Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Shocks
>I've had good luck with polygraphite bushings from Performance Suspension
>Technologies in the front. Ran them for years on the front of my 68 El
>Camino w/o any squeaks. One the rear,I wouldn't use anything but rubber. New
>rubber works ok in the front,too.
>Clint Hooper
>H&H Custom,owner
>1969 El Camin

Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions

[plgchevelle65]

Congratulations on the new wife.  My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest & let's me enjoy it.  At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you.  My first wife lasted 3 years.  My new one is 27 years & counting for the rest of my life!!  She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!!  LOL!!!   She'll even go for a ride in my fast & noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream.  Welcome to the List & may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car & your wife!!!          
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions


Hello - 

I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I
start posting.

My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.

I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when
I was in high school.

I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.

I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my
Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with
her.

Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living
arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on.

The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side
money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project
car.

The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The
guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did.

It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical
places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop
with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues.  

The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl
top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted.  The second issue is the
steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to
"hot wire" the car to drive it.

For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it.  The point, to me, of owning
an old car is to work on it.  I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the
car already done for him.  To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually
going to touch every nut and bolt on this car.

I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except
for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff.

All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. 


Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list.

Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN?
136371B202451


Thanks!

Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com 

Re: [Chevelle-list] what year is yours?

[plgchevelle65]

What do you mean?  65 SS.  Phil G.  Maryland Chevelle Club 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: bob howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:21:46 -0600 (Central Standard Time)Subject: [Chevelle-list] what year is yours?







Seems like there are not very many 64 and 65 chevelle's or elkys that are owned by people on the list . What do most people have , by year.
Just for my information. 
Bob  
64SS chevelle
65SS chevelle







 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Security

[plgchevelle65]

Never Let it out of you sight except for shows or at the track where there's people,  crowds & you're known.  All the owners watch out for one another.  It'd be pretty tough to steal a car out of an active event.  That's difficult for you daily drivers.  You guys may park & leave your vehicles like normal people do.  I'm even uncomfortable overnight at 2 day shows.  If you're coming after my car you better have a gun.  It's not worth dying over but don't point a knife or a stick at me.  And please don't bully me without a gun.  I was drafted in 68 & never got a chance to kill anybody.  Still crazy after all these years.  But seriously guys, I'm fully insured.  I may be gray & look vulnerable but looks are deceiving!!  I don't own a gun and it's a good thing.  My wife would have blown me away years ago!!  LOL!!     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Larry Shouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle List Sent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:48:16 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Security





What are you all doing to protect your Chevelle while out and about?
 
Security systems?
 
Fuel shut-offs?
 
Electrical cut-offs?
 
Hood locks?
 
Steering Wheel locks?
 
Thanks for your response,
 
Larry Shouse

Re: [Chevelle-list] was Ebay 70 LS6 Convert; now more older Chevs

[plgchevelle65]

Very interesting!  Anyone have any more details about the guy.  Just curious. 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:20:25 -0600Subject: [Chevelle-list] was Ebay 70 LS6 Convert; now more older Chevs





Here's another interesting story, which broke here in northeastern WI recently. It's been written up in Old Cars Weekly (published in central WI), so I guess the story must be basically true.
 
Apparently an old gentleman passed away, and his heirs found 20-some semi trailers with the doors welded shut. When they broke them open, they found quite a treasure trove of vintage Chevy iron.
 
Check out this link:    http://www.depereautocenter.com/
 
cYa    Jim

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In a message dated 12/5/05 7:07:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Shill bidder...
I wouldn't doubt that some of those 'questions/comments' are kinda fishy as well.
 
-Kurt EhrhardtACES 1280, TC Gold 26366 SuperSport, 66 MalibuEnfield, CT

Re: [Chevelle-list] Santa Strikes

[plgchevelle65]

Good answer!!   
 
A Great Holiday Season to ALL!!!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: J. Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle Group Sent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:59:58 -0800 (PST)Subject: [Chevelle-list] Santa Strikes


Well folks,

Today while doing the regular run to Walmart, I picked
my 4 month old daughter's Christmas gift..  It's a
remote control Herbie The Love Bug 1:6 scale.  The
thing's big enough for her to ride on!

I dropped it in the cart and when I caught up with my
wife, she just stared and said, "why are you getting
her one of those???"  My response:  "They were all
out of Chevelles.." (not the answer she was looking
for)  8^]


Happy Holidays,

Jim
'66 Malibu
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm
'59 Corvette (in alotta pieces)
www.59registry.com




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Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert

[plgchevelle65]

A true statement.  "Most of us don't have money to burn"!!  I had a 65 SS in 65 when I was a single guy with not much responsibility.  Then came the Army, 2 wives & 3 kids.  After driving a couple of so-so 65 SS's during the next 35 years.  At the age of 53  I finally got something nice.  Paid a fair but affordable price.  A few months later a Z-16 was offered at $200k out of a museum.  This was 2001.  I inquired and in my head I was selling my new 65 SS and arranging financing with my house, my IRA &  my children's college funds.  Spoke to my wife about it.  I think she had the attorney's phone number & a bag packed within minutes & was threatening to have me committed before she left.  OK.  It was a dream & I came back to earth.  But if I could have made it happen, what would that Z-16 be worth today?   Might have been a pretty good investment.  Of course I would have driven it.  My car's not a Picasso to hang on the wall.  I'll just have to be happy with my regular old 65 SS.  But I can always dream about owning a Z-16.  Do you guys with the 70's do the same when it comes to an LS-6?  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:47:53 ESTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert



What was the Auction number for the $150,000.00 convertible? Sorry but I can't find it. The (Blue) had sold for $172,000.00 @ the Barrett-Jackson auction January 17-20 2002. The (Black) LS6 went for $324,000.00 Jan 29 2005 .The Blue one was part of a discussion back 3 years or so when someone asked "If you could own any car what would it be". My answer was a 70 LS6 convertible. Someone wrote back and send a link where there was one for sale. The car was for sale for $175000.00 @ the time. The last I heard about the car is it went for $350,000.00 this summer. A documented (26 miles) LS6  hardtop went for $354,200.00 on Ebay. Look @ what the other cars brought in @ these auctions. I'm not saying these prices are right but don't you think if someone is paying that kind of money for a car they wouldn't have the documentation checked out? Bottom line is Some people have money to burn and most of us don't. 
  Larry (Z)
Sports Car Market > Profiles > 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle LS6 Convertible
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Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert

[plgchevelle65]

I'm a 65 guy.  Are those things really worth that much?   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:29:16 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert


I like this guy.  He knows what he has & he knows what he wants for it, & he might be right as to its value.  I doubt that it'll sell on Ebay, I figure he's using this for advertising & hopes to find a private buyer.  The Q&A is funny.BillLAt 01:51 PM 12/3/2005, you wrote:
Guys want a good chuckle ?eBay Motors: Chevrolet : Chevelle (item 4594270724 end time Dec-05-05 20:49:59 PST) 

Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert

[plgchevelle65]

Yeah!  I got a good chuckle too but the ironic thing about it is that there may be an investor out there or just some guy with more money than brains who will pay the price!!  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:51:51 ESTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert



Guys want a good chuckle ?
eBay Motors: Chevrolet : Chevelle (item 4594270724 end time Dec-05-05 20:49:59 PST) 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Ring and Pinion

[plgchevelle65]

Is your 4speed an M-20 or 21?  Makes a big difference when selecting rear gears.  Also how much cam are you running?  Reason I ask is I had a close box M-21 with a 2.20 first & a Comp Cams 284 Xtreme.  This original setup came from the upper NW region of Wash State.  Ran well on the back roads there.  Wouldn't run worth a damn in suburban MD.  Sluggish starting in first & spent most of the time in third.  I had the tranny rebuilt to a 2.56 first & reduced the cam to a 274 while leaving the 3.73 in the rear.  The car now performs well & is fun to drive in most conditions & is a great cruiser.  Plenty of "snap" too.  The hiway situ has already been discussed.  It would seem to me that when you're discussing this stuff you've got to make a distinction between a 4speed & an automatic.  They perform differently.  Hiway rpms may be similar but cruisin characteristics are totally different.  You still have to make your decision accordingly.  Not trying to be confusing.  Just something to think about.  It's no fun to make the wrong decision because you didn't have all the opinions.  Just thinking out loud as usual.  Good Luck!!     
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Ryan Langstraat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:12:10 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Ring and Pinion





 
I  think that Mike got it right too when he said "you really step in it now"
I think Clint also hit it right on the head when he said that "without O/D, gearing is a big compromise."
 
I had no idea that would generate so many posts!
 
That is why I asked the ring and pinion question in the first place.  For the time being I am going to stick with the 4 speed tranny and was kind of looking for a gear ratio that was fun to drive AND realistic at the same time.
Thank you to all who responded.  Before asking the question I was leaning towards the 3:73's but after reading the opinions and thinking about the use of my car, i believe I will go with something a little more driver friendly.
 
Once again, thanks for all the help, this list is great!
 
Ryan
 
PS-  Dale, I checked your web page you suggested and it reconfirmed what I was thinking!

Re: [Chevelle-list] Ring and Pinion

[plgchevelle65]

Ryan:  I have a 3.73 in a 12 bolt & yes it's marginal on the hiway.  I try to stay off & always check out mapquests non-hiway directions for shows.  I have a strong 327 & an M-20 Muncie 4speed.  Tires are Coker redlines 75 series about 28 inches.  Cruisin at 50-55 seems to be the best.  Of course going through a set is better!  At 60-65 mph I'm doing about 2900 to 3200 rpms and people are blowing me off the road.  The furthest I drive to a show on the hiway is 100 miles one way once a year to the MCC show in Northeast, MD.  Flowmasters make it noisy but its sweet noise!!  Suburban & backroad is perfect for a 3.73.  Limit your hiway & you'll be fine.  If you're looking to drive 500 miles to major events, trailer, or get a higher gear like 3.08.  But you may lose your "snap".  A 3.55 probably would only be a few 100 rpms less than a 3.73.  Some hiway miles are OK but you don't want to do 30-40-50 or more regularly.  I'm not interested in burning out my engine prematurely.  For what it cost to build I'd like to make it last many years.  I also race it a few times a season.  Note that my car is not a daily driver & is only used during the season on weekends from May to November, approximately 1000-1200 miles.    
 
Bottom line is that a 3.73 is a great all around gear, but you need to analyze your driving & be realistic when selecting.   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Ryan Langstraat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle Chat Forum Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:29:17 -0600Subject: [Chevelle-list] Ring and Pinion





I know that gear ratio has been a topic a lot lately but I am going to purchase my new set this week.  I noticed that some people are running 3:73's and was wondering how they liked them as an all around gear.  I noticed that Clint had mentioned that 3:73's were a marginal gear for the highway.  I guess what I was wondering was would a numerically lower gear set be a better route for a cruizer?  I would still like a little snap at times but I also dont want to be running 4500rpm down the highway.  I know there are formulas out there but was wanting personal opinions from people that have cruizers.  Let me know what you think.  
Glad I bought a bunch of parts this week becuase it is snowing right now and I can hide in the garage!
 
Ryan

Re: [Chevelle-list] 3.73 or 4.56?

[plgchevelle65]

 Hi Jim:  I've heard what everyone said & I agree with most.  I've got a pretty healthy 327 in a 65 SS with a M-20 4 speed, a 12 bolt & 3.73 gears.  I'm running Coker 75 series redline tires about 28 inches high.  It's great in town, the suburbs & back roads.  On the highway at 60-65 I'm taching 3000-3200 rpms & people are blowing me off the road.  I try to drive non-highway as much as possible.  I also drag race it a few time a season.  The future may include a 5 or 6 speed.  It's mainly a show car & a cruiser.  The max its been on the road is 100 miles one way.  The Flowmasters are singing all the way!!  It's noisy!  
 
If you plan little or no highway use & will be driving mostly in town & around, with an occasional trip to the drags, you could get away with the 4.56.  If you plan to cruise & put it on the road stay away.  Go with the 3.55-3.73.  The 3.73 is about the most versitile and that's stretching it.  Use the ratio that will best fit what your plans are for the car.  Be realistic.  With a 4.56 you may have to trailer to some events as necessary.  I enjoy driving my car & am not interested in burning out my engine prematurely.  Those 5 & 6 speeds with the .8 & .6 gears are looking better every year!!  Good luck with your decision & Happy Cruising!!!  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: J. Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle Group Sent: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:24:17 -0800 (PST)Subject: [Chevelle-list] 3.73 or 4.56?


OK folks,

I have the opportunity to use 3.73 or 4.56 gears in
the 10-bolt posi I'm going to put in the '66.  The car
has a 300+/-HP 327 and PG.  Anyone have any thoughts
or previous experience with the 4.56 gears and the
PG/small block setup?

I drive the car to local shows, and want to be able to
take it to Cecil on occasion.  A relative told me to
do the 4.56s and nothing less, thus my indecision.

Thanks,

Jim





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day / Float the Valves?

[plgchevelle65]

Well said.  And if you get the looks of admiration & thumbs up that I get on the road, being a Chevelle Snob is not a bad thing.  I'd like my engine to stay together for a while.  Gone are the days when we were hot rod/shade tree kids and we could blow it and rebuild it by the following weekend!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:09:00 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day / Float the Valves?





I decided years ago when I put a 6500 RPM cam in my BB motor that I'd eyeball limit to 6000. I'm not draggin' for money and I'd just as soon not grenade my 1970 vintage block just to spank some yahoo with three earings and a '98 Mustang. If I can't git 'r done with 6k, well, I'll have to accept it.
 
Besides, it doesn't matter how fast some lesser car goes - mine is a Chevelle with fatblock and a Muncie - that makes it more better by definition.
Chevelle Snob

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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day / Float the Valves?
Yeah, me too.  I've also always been careful of hitting rev limiters on other cars I've owned.  I am considering a rev limiter for the Chevelle, but have always wonder if a rev limiter can cause harm to an engine as well?  Or is it just fouled plugs at worst?  Does anyone have an opinion on that?Of course, even if the rev limiter caused some damage, it's probably not as serious as over revving an engine I'm sure.  There's no KABOOM! when you hit a rev limiter.  Just wondering if there might be long term harm.Thanks,MattAt 11:29 AM 10/13/2005, you wrote:
 Thank you for the insight, it seems like harm can only come from this and no advantage gained. I have always been won to respect the redline in cars, motorcycles, etc. and the few times over was a "whew it stayed together" Thanks again, Krister -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:01:27 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day / Float the Valves?Nope...it's basically reving the motor past the point where the valve springs can close the valve in time for the next compression or exhaust stroke. It's a "bad thing"...especially if the piston slaps a valve. That's one of the reasons valve seat spring load is important and why you match springs to cam, etc. Craig E.

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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:55 PM
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Well I am 41, been around cars my whole life and have not heard the term "float the valves"  doesn't sound like a good thing to do, but what is it?  My guess - depressing clutch to shift, but intenially not taking your foot off the gas? 
  
Thank you,
  
Krister Meister
Bloomingdale, IL
'66 SS #'s 
  
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From: Bob Haggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:48:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day
When I was in the Air Force (66-70) a friend had a red Chevelle SS with 
396/350hp.  It was a beautiful car and what I always remember was he liked to 
shift when the valves would float.  I was amazed that it stayed together since a 
high school friend had a 63 Impalla (1963) with 409/425hp that would float the 
valves when he missed a shift and it would usually end up back at the Chevy 
dealer to replace bent pushrods and other assorted parts.
Bob Haggard - old fart
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> From: Bob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/12 Wed PM 04:25:42 EDT
> To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Back in  the Day
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> Reminisicing at the tender age of 17 working in the local burger joint and 
working the night shift when the night porter  Pee Wee drove up with his new 
1969 Chevelle SS , Black with Red interior and red stripes, with 396-375 and 
four on the floor with eyebrows on the headlights??
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day

[plgchevelle65]

Back in fall of 64 at York US 30 Dragway in PA I saw Malcom Durham match race Ronnie Sox.  Malcom was in a 65 Chevelle, I think it was Strip Blazer III, and Sox was in a Comet or a Mopar.  I forget because I was focused on the Chevelle.  Sox won the first round.  Malcom blew him away on the second round & sucked a valve going through the lights.  Match race over for the night.  I've been hooked on 65's ever since!  The following April I ordered an L-79 4speed SS.  I'm on my 4th one today.  Phil G.  Old fart too.  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bob Haggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:48:21 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back in the Day


When I was in the Air Force (66-70) a friend had a red Chevelle SS with 
396/350hp.  It was a beautiful car and what I always remember was he liked to 
shift when the valves would float.  I was amazed that it stayed together since a 
high school friend had a 63 Impalla (1963) with 409/425hp that would float the 
valves when he missed a shift and it would usually end up back at the Chevy 
dealer to replace bent pushrods and other assorted parts.
Bob Haggard - old fart
> 
> From: Bob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/12 Wed PM 04:25:42 EDT
> To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Back in  the Day
> 
> Reminisicing at the tender age of 17 working in the local burger joint and 
working the night shift when the night porter  Pee Wee drove up with his new 
1969 Chevelle SS , Black with Red interior and red stripes, with 396-375 and 
four on the floor with eyebrows on the headlights??
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove name from list

[plgchevelle65]

And you do your job Very Well!!  Cracks me up every time I see someone trying to get off the list.  I know what's coming.  
 
I've said this B4 but anyone who has an interest in Chevelles & finds their way to our list only to look for a way off is losing out on the best part of this hobby/sport!!  We are not Spam!  We are good people & great cars.  It doesn't get any better than this!  
 
In no particular order: Health, family, religion, people, Chevelles, money, etc., etc., etc.  Every individual sets their own priorities.  I'd like to think I have mine in order which is why I can enjoy my Chevelle so much as part of my life!!      
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Lessenberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:47:28 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Remove name from list


Yes, she was.  Sometimes I feel bad about doing the Craft o Matic, but it's, like, my job.   :-)  Usually someone will chime in on how to really do it, but that's, like, not my job. BillL  At 05:25 PM 9/28/2005, you wrote:
At least she was polite in asking.Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

Re: [Chevelle-list] Mecum Auction

[plgchevelle65]

 Hi Craig:  I grew up in the 60's & I can relate to what you said.  Would I still like to have my L-79 SS from 1965?  Of course I would but it's long gone to the crusher.  Sold it in 74 after the Army & during my first marriage.  Had no place to keep it anyway & the last thing on my mind was owning a 40 year old car in 2005.  Aftermarket was the way back then.  Either performance or looks, and most of the time you sold what you took off.  Never occurred to us to save for numbers matching in the future.  The number of people that are original owners of these muscle machines are few & far between.  I wish my Mom had a house & garage where I could have stored mine for 30 years.  Even as a rustbucket it would have been worth a fortune today as an oringinal L-79.  You don't even want to know about the 58-59 Baseball card collection I sold for $10.  Bought a tank of gas & went out on a date.  Today I own my 4th 65 SS and every time I drive it, it makes me smile.  No numbers matching anything but some of the sheetmetal.  No muncie shifter and no chalk marks anywhere.  Close the hood & it looks like the 60's.  A lot of shine and custom wheels.  Not much stock under the hood either and the flowmasters are like music.  Nothing stuffy about me or my car and people let me know they approve all the time.  I admire and respect the stockers and the people that build them and if I did have that first 65, I'm afraid it would have to be a trailer queen today.  Personally, I want to drive, have fun and leave the numbers to the purists.  Let them worry about the right screws, bolts, and chalk marks.  If it's your car you do whatever makes you smile whether that's going for 1000 points, pro street or in between!!  And NEVER condemn those that don't share your views.  To each his own.  That's one of the beauty's of this hobby.  The flexibilty to be yourself!     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Larry Shouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Craig Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:52:23 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Mecum Auction





Well said Craig. I too grew up in the '70's doing as you said, except I was a Ford man back then . As I "restore" my 66, my plans are to go original within reason - the body and interior will be original, but I will make safety and performance upgrades. And like you, if I use after market parts, I will keep the original parts for the next guy or gal, if I ever sell this thing of course...

- Original Message - 
From: Craig Ellis 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Mecum Auction

I don't know about anyone else, but I grew up in the muscle car era - had a '66 GTO in high school and worked at a local factory as a press operator to pay for it. The FIRST thing that happened to that car was ET mags. Then headers and 'vette exhaust under the door. Then a Holley 850 double because my buddy's Z28 spanked me. Then a Hurst shifter. I have no idea what happened to the original parts. That was muscle car era hotrodding. Hotrodding 32 Fords was a whole other thing but with muscle cars it was all about exhaust, cams, wheels, carbs and once in a while some serious dude would port the heads - and with cast iron, that was no mean potatoes -  or stroke & bore. Only the south end greasers did that stuff...not us north end frat boys - and they cleaned our clocks at the local 1/4 every Saturday night.
 
Today, muscle cars are about getting the chalk marks correct on the rear end diff and sourcing NOS bias ply tires. I'm sorry, but I don't really get that. I mean, I respect it and I respect the meticulous attention to detail, etc., but it so not me. For years, I didn't even know how to tell if the block matched the chassis - I didn't know or think it was important. When I got my Chevelle years ago, as soon as I had the money, off came the heads and on went aluminum...and a cam and carb and wheels with some swingin' KDW tires. Oh yeah, and headers and xpipe and Flowmasters and lower springs and a Mallory and the A/C is out in the shed. Now it's MY car. It sounds, looks, and drives like the nasty old girl she is. It ain't perfect - nothing I have is - but I like it.
 
At least this time I kept the heads, intake, A/C and manifolds. They're sitting around collecting cobwebs...probably leaking oil on something.
 
Craig E.
 
 
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 25, 2005 11:30 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Mecum Auction 


If one only had a unlimited bank account ! 
  Larry (Z)
 
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1, 4-Speed. - Lot:X20 at Mecum In Chicago - Mecum Auction 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

Sorry I missed the JK.  I like em all but the 65 SS is my drug of choice!!  I remember a $1500 65 Chevelle AM/FM on Ebay over a year ago.  I had a non working AM at the time.  I bought another AM cheap to fill the holes for shows & had mine converted to AM/FM by a guy at Carlisle.  It's got some static & needs a part from Radio Shack.  I don't use it much but it works OK.  Mostly when I cruise I just listen to the sound of the Flowmasters.  Sometimes it's better than music and almost always better than the news!!  Have a great weekend.    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:28:47 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows



Phil:
Please reread what I said about 65's.( I still feel the only Chevelle ever made was the 1965 but that is my problem< JK>). JK means Just Joking . I would never tell anyone that I didn't like their year of Chevelle.
Dan Blockers Z16 (Terry Gunter owned) sold for $250 K and I heard that when the smoke cleared Terry Gunter's other  Z16 sold for 350 K (there was a car trade and some cash) . It isn't only BJ and others making cars so expensive. Many parts are very rare and they are not making them anymore. As an example they made about 2794 AM-FM radios in 1965. The U69 option sold for $150.15  with the car. I have bought and sold many for $350.00 - $500.00 but now I'm seeing them go for $1500.00. Why ? Because it is a rare option, owners of 65's want them and they aren't making them anymore. I wonder how many went to the crusher , sitting on a bench or in another car?  According to many people restoring cars (private and shops) many  parts that are reproduced are junk. In this case no one makes a replacement. Well if you can't live without that AM-FM and must have it you may be paying $1600.00 for it because when the last one sold 10 others wanted it too. Does that make your car worth another $1600.00 ?  I don't think so but many out there are willing to pay big bucks . It's sad to see a car worth $5000.00  go for 15-20 K but one reason is there are so many Baby Boomers that want a "Blast from the Past " and they have the money to do it. Oh well time to go make some money to spend on parts ! 
Has anyone heard from John L. yet?
Larry (Z)
 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

Clint:
That's what I'm understanding.  For those of us that own I guess that makes it a good investment.  For the investor buyers & sellers I don't know.  But for the young guys & the future of our hobby, I say we're in trouble!!    
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 08:53:17 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows





I don't know either,Phil,but those auctions are sure impacting our hobby.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

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I just viewed some BJ Auction results.  Can someone tell me how they price some of this stuff.  Of the 879 cars, I felt like I was looking at every Best of Show car in the country.  Some were reasonably priced but most were off the scale from what I see at shows.  Many were Non #'s, mods, drivers, etc.  I understand the true value of a #'s matching trailered museum quality car.  There's alot of beautiful cars out there going for $30-40.  All these $100k+ things are mind boggling.  I don't understand.  What am I missing?  Are there that many people out there with more $$ than brains driving up these prices or is there a network of buyers & investors flipping?  Or is BJ the snake oil salesman of cars?  I don't have a clue.  Anyone?  Just thinking out loud as usual.  No offense to anyone.    



 
Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

Well said.  I don't feel as you do that the 65 was the only Chevelle ever made but its my car of choice.  I've had 4 including my present one & wish I still had my original L-79 that I bought in 65.  I also wish that I could have found a way to obtain a Z-16, my dream car of choice.  A few have crossed my path but the time was never right & later on just 4 years ago the price was already far above my hobby budget.  Anybody out there with a Z-16 needing restoring, Go for it!  IMO these are investor cars.  4 years ago an unrestored museum Z was offfered at $200k.  What's a restored to perfection one worth today?
I just viewed some BJ Auction results.  Can someone tell me how they price some of this stuff.  Of the 879 cars, I felt like I was looking at every Best of Show car in the country.  Some were reasonably priced but most were off the scale from what I see at shows.  Many were Non #'s, mods, drivers, etc.  I understand the true value of a #'s matching trailered museum quality car.  There's alot of beautiful cars out there going for $30-40.  All these $100k+ things are mind boggling.  I don't understand.  What am I missing?  Are there that many people out there with more $$ than brains driving up these prices or is there a network of buyers & investors flipping?  Or is BJ the snake oil salesman of cars?  I don't have a clue.  Anyone?  Just thinking out loud as usual.  No offense to anyone.   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:31:36 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows



Years ago when I was at a car show it dawned on me what a jerk I was about certain cars being displayed. The particular car that I had been looking at was a GM car from the 60's that I really thought was a POS. While I was standing there thinking about the car I heard the owner talking to another guy. He was talking about all the hard work he had done and how on his limited income he had struggled for years trying to make his car presentable. It then dawned on me not everyone can put thousands of dollars into a car.( I still feel the only Chevelle ever made was the 1965 but that is my problem< JK>) >From that day on I have had a completely different attitude about Queens vs Drivers vs unrestored cars vs ugly cars vs unpopular cars vs etc. .Just because I don't like a certain car doesn't mean that its not a nice car .I know many think its horrible to take a nice car and put late model running gear or make a race car out of a numbers matching. Bottom line ? If it's your car, Do what ya want to do . If its someone else's car respect them for what they have done not what you think should have been done.
   Larry (Z)

Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

JJ:  Your points are well taken.  Maybe someday those well known car guys will say I'm here to enjoy the people & cars, share a piece of history & maybe drum up some business.  Do not judge my car.  Let the little guy in a driver win the $25 trophy.  He continues to work on & drive his car while I just dust mine off.  That may sound harsh but it's realistic.  Anyone who likes to compete likes the rush of the win.  Step back & think why we go to shows?  OK.  We all like the people & cars or we wouldn't be there.  But even at a point judged show there has to equity.  Ever been to a show that's club dominated & full of "politics".  You could have the best in show & go home empty.  Don't go back to those shows do you?  Step up with time & money is not the answer.  You enter to compete & the competition should be fair.  There are gender divisions in sports for a reason.  Some have weight classifications.  At recreational levels there are age groupings also.  There are reasons for all.  You could make the case that at the professional level weight & age doesn't matter.  It's head to head until you can't compete anymore at the level to win.  That may be so in the big team sports but in individual sports it matters.  Why are there now seniors tours in golf & tennis?  Golf at 50 but tennis is dominated by teens & 20 somethings & you're old in your 30's.  Kinda like an older 10 year old restoration weekend  driver that still looks good going against a real trailer queen that's been driven 5 miles total on & off the trailer for ten years.  There are many other details in day to day life that have to be factored in.  We are all not equal other than the fact that we own & love Chevelles.  Everyone doesn't have the ability money or lifestyle to do a museum quality car to include a tow vehicle & trailer.  I admire those cars but prefer a driver which over the long haul may have as much $$ invested in it.  We all get our own type of enjoyment whether a driver or queen.  I realize I may not be making any friends here but then again I may also be speaking for the silent majority.  It just needs to be said!  Maybe someone out there has a creative solution.  I don't without the time & money factors.  
 
I'm not whining & this is not a personal crusade whether you believe it or not.  I love the people & have loved Chevelles since 1964.  Those of you that know me know I have a 65 mild modified driver that shows well & wins often.  I keep it nice & like to compete.  It's a 10 year old restoration & I fall into the exact category of becoming less competitive with newer restorations & non-competitive with queens.  Most seasonal weekend drivers are in this category.  Oh.  I also like to take it to the dragstrip a few times a year.  
 
That's it for me.  I've said it all & will not bother the List on the subject again.  I think of myself as a nice guy.  Willing to help anyone that asks.  But this trailer vs driver thing really got me started.  Thanks Donnie G.  Anyone that wants to comment to me personally, positive only I hope, can email me off List at [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Thanks guys.      

 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Fig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 05:11:42 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows




Hey Phil
I agree that there is a difference between a car that is driven and a car that is driven off a trailer.  I've been flat on my back in the grass enough to know that if you drive a car there will be dirt and chips and bugs that you just cant get to.  I've been on both sides of this in that I have built cars that are drivers and helped to build queens.  The people that drive em love the fact that they can hop in and go and the people that own the queens get a lot of joy in being able to share a piece of history.  And I even know people who build a driver but plan the coming out to coincide with show season so that they can show the car while it is still fresh.
 
I guess my point is that sometimes we all need to step back and think about why we are going to shows.  In particular going to a show judged on points.  Those that are going to a show just to be there and enjoy the cars/people usually could care less whether they win a trophy or not no matter what they have in the show.  In particular, I know the owner of a well known car that has won countless awards and notoriety, who gets more joy out of just being there and letting others enjoy the car than he does with the awards.  More than once he has said that he would rather others get the awards even though he car is clearly the best in show.  But there are people who are going to a show just to get a trophy.  If your going to a points based show and want to win a trophy then you have to step up and take the time and money to compete against the points sheet reguardless of whether you drive the car or not.  I know a lot of people who own drivers that

Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

Hi JJ:  Crawl underneath & check out a weekend driver.  Few if any can compete with a true trailer queen.  These cars are restored to 995-1000 point stature & never put on the road again.  These guys must have barometers stuck up themselves.  I've seen them trailer up just seconds B4 the rain comes.  Years of just driving to shows, 1000-1500 miles a season does cause deterioration from normal wear, etc.  All the cleaning & painting in the world will not prevent it from showing.  Queens remain pristine forever!  While the weekend show car may look super clean up top and really sharp to an observer, to a judge it's no contest.  Not even close in the case of a real driver.  Again, crawl underneath.  This is the true difference & real concern of drivers vs queens!!  It's apples & oranges.  
 
We're not talking about rustbucket DD's cause there are some nice restored DD's out there but a true restored DD competing against a weekend restored driver is in the same situation as the restored weekender against a true trailor queen.  When you start crawling & judging it is no contest.  Yes it's true that some guys trailer for convenience & necessity because of distance to shows & performance gearing, etc.  However many of these cars are driven locally and it shows, and even raced.  The true queens once complete only come on & off the trailer.  Just doesn't seem right that they compete in the same class when they're not!   I don't have the answer either.  The inequity exists & we all know it.  Once again I've said enough.  My appologies if I offend anyone.  None offense intended.   
 
P.S. I kinda think it's neat when guys put those mirrors up under their cars.   
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Fig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:45:00 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows



Maybe just to clear up a few things...
 
We aren't talking daily drivers versus trailer queens.  At our show we have a daily driver class for cars that are a person's main mode of transportation.  Its an issue of putting a restored car that is driven against one that is trailered.
 
As an interesting observation at many of the shows I have been to I have seen just as many(if not more) modified trailer queens as I have numbers matching restos.
 
Personally I don't think there is an easy answer for this.  Trailers are needed for one of two things: convenience or necessity.
 
JMHO
 
JJ FigClint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Bob,your opinion pretty much mirrors mine. I really don't pay much attention to numbers-matching trailer queens. 
Don't think it's fair for daily drivers to compete with them,either.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

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Donnie:Trailer queens just do not interest me in the leastCan't remember when I last even checked one out Give them a separate class and keep them parked together..Just my opinion..Bob Griffiths


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Gas Prices

[plgchevelle65]

Chuck & Don:  I don't have any technical knowledge on the subject but I agree with you both.  GREED runs the oil industry, as well as the tobacco, alchohol, food, utilities industry & every other major commodity in this country.  It's part of what the free enterprise system is all about & the democratic way.  The rich get richer.  We are all getting raped on the price of gas.   Keep in mind that eventually oil will be depleted & the world will be forced to look for alternatives.  Not to mention the number of people world wide that work in the oil industry.  The OPEC countries will then go broke.  This is centuries away but realistic.  Also, much of the easy oil has been pumped & what is still available is getting harder to get out of the ground.  It's been said to me that the Alaskan stuff is very crude & more expensive to refine.  Venezuela doesn't like us & sells mostly to China & Mexico will be changing leadership in a few years & the front runner isn't the most pro USA & will be asking for concessions to continue selling to America.  What can we do about it.  Stop driving?  Get serious.  Call on Congress?  Get serious again.  The people must band together in an organized manner & show the world we won't put up with this anymore.  How to accomplish that I don't know.  We grumble, but it's hard to complain when most of the world lives in poverty compared to us & people go hungry.  Other nations can't help their sick & elderly, and can't educate their young to end their miserable existence & stop the cycle.  We are not perfect as a nation & have a long way to go but if expensive gas is the worst we have to deal with compared to the reast of the world's miseries, I'll take it for now!  I'm not happy about it either.  I grew up in a small family business where you treated you customers as friends & didn't try to screw them out of their last nickle and everyone in the neighborhood cared about one another.  I'm afraid those times are gone.  But I'm a proud first generation American, a Veteran, a husband, a father, a middleclass taxpayer, and a Chevelle Owner.  I'll take this life anyday over other worldly alternatives!!  BTW, I'm also a hard core Democrat!!!  Sorry for the tirade but the word GREED just set me off.  Thanks for listening.  Happy Cruisin' Guys.     
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:45:21 -0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Re: Gas Prices


There's the same amount of gas whether the companies charge $2 a gallon or
$4 a gallon. The only thing that really changes is the profit margin. The
oil companies, oil producing countries & the politicians all talk a lot
about supply & demand & crude oil productivity & refinery productivity all
causing the prices to go up & down. But that's not necessarily true.  If the
oil producing countries cut down on their crude production or the refineries
cut down on their production, there would be less product to sell but that
doesn't mean it cost them any more or less to make each gallon of gas or
oil. The big companies & oil producing countries are all making record
profits. They charge more money because they can, not because they have too.
The American consumer is being raped by the oil & gas companies. It is
simple greed. If everyone in the oil food chain cut their profits by say
1/3, everyone would still be making a good profit but the price of gas would
go down considerably. They won't do this of course because they don't have
too. I'm all for people & businesses making money, it's what we work for &
what keeps the economy going. But when is it enough? Especially when you're
talking about a necessary commodity such as gas, oil & natural gas. In our
society it is a necessity. Why can't they be happy with making millions
instead of billions? or at least a few billion instead of many billion?
Don't you realize that even if we all gave up our performance cars &
everyone in the country drove cars that got 50mpg, the oil companies would
then charge $6 a gallon so they could keep their profits up. It's not the
oil, it's the greed that's the problem. I remember back many years ago when
they use to tell us to keep your car running when stopped for a train or a
red light because it used more gas to start it than to keep it running. But
many years later they admitted that wasn't really true. They just wanted to
sell more gas. Remember the gas shortages of 1973? Long lines at the pumps,
etc? But once the price jumped up from 40 cents a gallon to over a dollar,
all of a sudden there was no more shortage. There hasn't been a shortage in
the last 30 years. Oil isn't the problem friends, greed is the problem.
Unfortunately it isn't going to change. Of course this is a very simplified
opinion of these problems. This could be discussed for
hours/days/weeks/years on end but I really just wanted to vent some. Sorry
for the long winded tirade.
Don
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows

[plgchevelle65]

Donnie:  This message says alot.  Enjoys driving car.  Really can't compete financially against the "pros".  Stopped going to most shows.  
 
If you go to any of the cruises you see cars there you never see at shows.  Maybe it's the 
work to keep them clean and be competitive, maybe these guys just don't care obout shows & competition or maybe they know the queens will win anyway.  It's true that some guys pull into a show & don't even bother to clean up.  I've seen cars you could grow corn in the carpets.  Obviously those guys "don't & can't" expect to win so I hope they're not grumblng when the trophies are handed out.  My judging team in NE spent time with some young owners after judging their cars giving tips.  These were daily drivers & most of the advice was in the area of cleaning up the car & appearance.  Even with rust & works in progress.  These were young guys with not alot of $$.  But they wanted to put their cars in a show & compete.  They have a Daily Driver class.  What if there was no DD class & a DD can be a restored car as well.  Some of these cars would be uncompetitive with restored weekend drivers.   In many but not all classes, there is nothing equal between driven & trailored cars.  Once again, I'm not complaining but as thoughts come to mind I'll speak out.  I don't have the answer but I know exactly where Bob Haggard is coming from.  I take pride in my car & enjoy driving & competing but I also know the day may come when I just cruise to the Dunkin' Donuts & Jimmy Cone & let the queens win.  I don't have the answer but I think I'm hearing that most guys see the obvious inequity also.  
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bob Haggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 6:21:01 -0400Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows


Instead of a "trailer queen" class you can have a "driven" class that people can 
enter, it sounds better.  I don't have the cash to buy a truck and trailer and I 
enjoy driving my old cars.  I guess if I spent 6 figures to paint one then I 
would want to trailer it too so I have nothing against them, I just don't have 
the income to support it.  I have stopped going to shows except for a couple 
each year and usually attend a Saturday night cruise 2 or 3 times each month.  
This year I have been on the Power Tour and will be at Daytona for the Turkey 
Fest and a trailer would be a PITA to deal with.
Bob Haggard
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Trailered vs. Non-Trailered Cars at shows
> 
>  
> Hey Guys, 
> I?m looking for some input from folks who trailer their cars and also  those 
> who drive their cars to shows/events for competition. 
> Here?s the question(s)?. 
> Should event sponsors separate the trailered vs. the  non-trailered cars on 
> the show field?   
> How would that make you trailered guys feel?  Isolated?  Would you just not 
> attend that  show?   
> How about you ?drivers?? 
> In the long run, would this cause more problems or solve  them?   
> How are other event sponsors handling this? 
> This is an issue of which those who run a show faces over and over.  We do 
> 3-4 shows a year (some points  driven, some not) and inevitably, after each 
one 
> I get quite a few inputs (well  actually complaints) that this should be.  As 
> far as I know, the late great chevy is the only show around that does  
> separate the two. 
> It?s pretty well known that if you drive your car, in just about every  case, 
> you cannot compete against a car this is trailered.  The trailered car will 
> take home the  trophy (or at least first place) in just about every case.  A 
> driven car will show signs of wear, no  matter how careful one is.  Rock  
chips, 
> dirt, grime, discolored exhaust, etc? such is life. 
> In a points driven show this can be critical as a winner could be  declared 
> by as little as 1 point.  In a ?participant Choice? or ?Top 40? show, I 
> believe it still plays a  part, but not as much. 
> Not trying to start a war here, but looking for some ideas and  opinions.  
> You can reply offline if  you wish your opinion not be made public. 
> Thanks 
> Donnie 
> President 
> Maryland Chevelle Club
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Howard County Fair MD Show

[plgchevelle65]

Hi Jim:  Are we talking the Northeast where we have our MCC/ACES Regional Show?  I'm about 90 miles from there.  Once a year there rain or shine & once to Adams Chevrolet is about all I can handle in that direction on the highway.  Elkton's a good drive from central Montgomery County also.  I'm seriously thinking about going to a 5-speed trans for more highway drivability.  Then some of these longer distance shows would be more pleasurable trips.  The Howard County Show was about 15 miles of suburban road.  30 miles to Frederick on 355 is a nice ride.  35 miles to Westminster is nice & 60 miles no highway to Littlestown, PA is a fun trip.  My car is a driver.  4 speed & 3.73 rear.  Hasn't seen a trailer since it came across country from Washington state 4 years ago.  But it doesn't like the rain.  I think I got all the leaks sealed after the MCC/ACES of 2003.  Cleaning a driver show car after being caught in a storm sucks.  Funny how the dust from the dragstrip doen't bother me as much.   
 
Phil G. 65 SS  
  -Original Message-From: J. Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:56:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Howard County Fair MD Show


Hi Phil,

I live in Elkton and did not get to that show-  I got
to the Walmart show on Saturday though, and there was
a decent turnout. 

There is also a show at the Walmart in Northeast every
Friday night from 5-?FYI.

Regards,

Jim
'66 Malibu
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm

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> Good Morning:  Just curious if anyone in the area or
> in the MCC went to the Howard County Fair Show
> yesterday in West Friendship, MD.  What was the
> condition of the field and did the weather hold
> up-any rain?   I didn't like the looks of the
> weather in my area and the Weather Channel didn't
> look much better for 12-3PM.  I was there last year
> & it's an open show put on by a group of old F**D
> guys.  They're freindly, harmless & do a good job
> with the show.  What was fun about it last year was
> that the small show area was adjacent to a huge
> parking lot to get into fair.  So thousands or
> virtually everyone who came to the Fair had to walk
> by the show.  Got to meet & talk to alot of people. 
> Makes for a great day.  Especially if you've ever
> been to an out of the way/isolated show where much
> fewer people are even aware a show is going on. 
>  
>  
> Phil G. 65 SS
> 





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[Chevelle-list] Howard County Fair MD Show

[plgchevelle65]

Good Morning:  Just curious if anyone in the area or in the MCC went to the Howard County Fair Show yesterday in West Friendship, MD.  What was the condition of the field and did the weather hold up-any rain?   I didn't like the looks of the weather in my area and the Weather Channel didn't look much better for 12-3PM.  I was there last year & it's an open show put on by a group of old F**D guys.  They're freindly, harmless & do a good job with the show.  What was fun about it last year was that the small show area was adjacent to a huge parking lot to get into fair.  So thousands or virtually everyone who came to the Fair had to walk by the show.  Got to meet & talk to alot of people.  Makes for a great day.  Especially if you've ever been to an out of the way/isolated show where much fewer people are even aware a show is going on.       
 
Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] 283

[PLGChevelle65]

HI John:  I've got a small block 327.  It's beefed up probably around 400HP.  Sounds great with the flowmasters, winds great 6500-7000 & I wouldn't want it any other way.  Doesn't have the torque of a BB but it's fun, fast & reliable.  With proper gears & tires it would turn easy 12's.  However, with a four speed, 3.73 rear & skinny 215/70 redlines it's gone 105mph in the quarter & we won't talk about the ET.  It's primarily a week-end show car.  No disrepect to anyone but you guys can keep your BB's.  I'm lovin' life in a SBC!!!

Phil G.  65 SS   MCC  ACES  TC  LGC  VCCA  AMCA  

Re: [Chevelle-list] good news

[PLGChevelle65]

Brian:  Great to hear all went well.  Only 40%.  How did you ever know?  Remember that VP Cheney had all this done & a stent.  I've had 2 angios & have a stent also.   Since Cheney's thing there has been alot af interest in this field.  They weren't about to let the VP fall over.  All us CAD (coronary artery disease) patients have benefited from the research & findings.  Listen to the Doc., take your meds, eat right, exercise, stay away from fast food, fatty foods & junk.  Once a month pizza with pepperoni & double cheese is OK if you do all the other right stuff.  Like I said B4, the angio was a piece of cake.  Just don't get to where they have to cut you open.  Stay disciplined & committed & you'll be fine for 100 years!!  Good luck with the young family.  Been there, done that.  I'm 57 & my baby is my Chevelle!!!
 
Phil G.  65 SS   MCC  ACES  TC  LGC  VCCA  AMCA    

Re: [Chevelle-list] special request

[plgchevelle65]

Hey Brian:  I know I'm late getting in but my system was down yesterday.  By the time you read this you should be home & well & cranking up the machine.  I've had two angioplasty's & a bunch of angiograms.  Not to worry.  Piece of cake.  Better than getting your chest split open.  Arteries clog for many reasons but when it's caught early enough for angioplasty, there's usually no damage to the heart muscle itself.  That's when things get serious.  So listen to your Dr., take your meds, eat right, don't smoke, exercise, love yourself, love your family, & love your Chevelle.  We Chevelle owners got alot to live for.  Many envy us just for owning these things.  So do the right thing & get out there & enjoy!
 
P.S.  Thought about you all day.  Hope & I'm sure all went well.  I felt the same my first time about 6+ years ago.  Even thought about getting my affairs in order.  Hell, Iv'e had more extreme dental work done!!  Take care & get out there & Live & Love & Drive!!!   
 
Just turned 57 yesterday.  Loving Life & Driving My 65!    Phil G.   MCC  ACES  TC  VCCA  LGC  AMCA -Original Message-From: Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:07:08 -0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] special request


Hi guys, over the last couple of years since I have been a part of this list, I have learned more from you than I can put into words. Every day it seems I learn something new or at least get to have a good laugh, especially from some of the ebay listings that are pointed out here. I consider you all family and really appreciate the advice and help I have recieved.   Now for the request part. Tomorrow (Friday) I have to have a heart catheterization (angioplasty) done and my family and I would greatly appreciate it if any of you would remember us in your thoughts and prayers.   Chevelle content: If anything were to go wrong, I would not be able to drive the Chevelle any more.    Thanks to all of you, Brian  _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/  

Re: [Chevelle-list] new addition to the FIG clan

[plgchevelle65]

Congratulations to all in the Fig Clan!!  Especially the new MOM & DAD!!!  
Bowen Chase Fig will guarantee that life will never be the same again now that he owns the world!!!  Enjoy.  Now get the 70 finished!  Again, BEST TO ALL and thanks for the pictures.  Always a joy to look at babies & happy people.  Aside from Chevelles that is!!!  
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: John Fig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: chevelle list ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:01:19 -0800 (PST)Subject: [Chevelle-list] new addition to the FIG clan




Hey All
Just wanted to annouce the arrival of my first born Bowen Chase Figuracion.  He was born March 23rd @ 4:42pm (he wouldn't wait til 4:54...) in LaPlata, Maryland.  He was 7lbs 6.9oz and 19.5".  Both mommy and baby came home on saturday and are doing just fine. Needless to say that we are very happy to have our new bundle of joy!!!  Here are links to a few pictures, first is of Me and Bowen and second is a picture of grandpa FIG with Bowen.
 
So keep an eye out cause there's a new FIG coming to a show near you... We plan to make the trip with the little guy to Chevelle-a-bration and to the MCC show in June.
 
Now the wife says I need to get the 70 done so that little Bowen has a car of his own to ride in!
 
JJ Fig


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Carlisle, was: Refurbishing Steering Wheels

[plgchevelle65]

DITTO! 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:07:05 ESTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carlisle, was: Refurbishing Steering Wheels



Hope you can make it John... would be great to see this Elky we've heard so much about.
 
 
Donnie Gates

RE: [Chevelle-list] Parts Supplier - TWE

[PLGChevelle65]

Called TWE.  Guy said wholesale only.  Catalogs not available to the public.  
Therefore-"No free catalogs". 

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Phil G. 65 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 SS for sale

[PLGChevelle65]

Just some thoughts guys:  I'm sure this is a very nice car and will make some 
enthusiast very happy & proud to own & drive. There seems to be alot of 65 SS 
283 autos around the country for sale.  This was probably the most common combo 
of 65.  I had an L-79 4speed in 65, two 283 autos in between and have a 
modified SB 4 speed 65 SS today.  This was the Muscle car era.  HP and Speed 
were the order of the day.  Some people were unhappy with 326 Tempests, 318 
Mopars, 352 Fords, you get the idea.  They were just as pretty & alittle less 
expensive but not much performance.  If you follow the ads like I do re 65's, I 
tend to see frame off resto's with this combo for $22-40K but they stay on the 
market for a while.  The 327/300 offered much more classic value & I wish I had 
my L-79 today!!  I know that everyone has different ideas & desires re this 
hobby.  Kinda like when the lion tastes it's first meat, IMO thats what speed 
and a Muscle car are like.  I like all old cars, classics, etc.  But if I have 
to own one, it better "RUN".  Nothing against purists.  I can appreciate their 
end of the hobby also.  No critcism intended.  Just thinking out loud.  Any 
comments & ventilation welcome.  

Phil G. 65 SS   




In a message dated 1/29/2005 10:29:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Brian Knight" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi guys, just saw an ad in the local (Lexington, KY) paper, though someone 
>might be interested.
>65 Chevelle ss, numbers matching, new paint/tires, 283 auto, red w/black 
>int. great condition. $9800. 859-873-0344, 859-948-2880.
>
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Need new Carb

[PLGChevelle65]

Not much is original.  Mostly Hi-perf aftermarket.   


In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:48:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

>i´m thinking run with a 750 with my 396 too...
>what u have on the engine?? it´s original??
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>- Mensagem Original -
>Data: Quinta-feira, 13 de Janeiro de 2005 12:38
>De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Para: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
>Assunto: Re: [Chevelle-list] Need new Carb
>
>I'd go with the 650. BG folks know what they're talking about. I run a 750 on 
>my 396.
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Phil G. 65 SS