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Driveshaft tapered end toward transmission. It does make a difference or it wouldn''t be tapered. gm66 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Jim Buckingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Shawn Price'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:45:58 -0400 Thanks for the help. Yeah was early for me too. I did not think the driveshaft made any difference. Never notice when I took it all apart 5 years ago. The distributor just seemed odd was all, since the timeing and all lined up . Jim _ From: Shawn Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions Jim, I'm assuming that you've removed the yoke from the transmisson end of the driveshaft and just have u-joints attached right now? My first guess would be to put the longer taper toward the transmission, but I'm not sure that it really matters, unless there's some kind of clearance issue. As for the second question, I'm just proud that I figured out that you were talking about an HEI distributor. (It's still early for me). Usually the vacuum port points at about a 45* angle from the firewall, and the connector is aimed at the brake booster. Since we don't have tach-drive distributors like the vettes, it isn't as critical to work with the rotor and housing to get the placement perfect. I'm even less sure about the TCS. Seems like on the vettes, there was a sensor on the passenger side head, and I thought it only had two wires. You might want to look at an AIM to get a better idea. Shawn On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Jim Buckingham wrote: I have a couple of really dumb questions. First the drive shaft, which of the tapered ends goes where. One end gas a taper that is about 10-24 inches long and the other has about 6-8. Second, HWI where dow the connection point??? Mine is pointed directly at the power brack booster. Seems strange I though I remembered them pointing more towards the fron. The vac port points at about a 45 degree angle across the passenger side valve cover. Third, wiring for TS. I don't have TCS anymore and wondered which wires went to it.. I think there are 3 connectors, just not sure which ones. Thanks, Jim 72 Chevelle Smallblock _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.
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Thanks for the help. Yeah was early for me too. I did not think the driveshaft made any difference. Never notice when I took it all apart 5 years ago. The distributor just seemed odd was all, since the timeing and all lined up . Jim _ From: Shawn Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions Jim, I'm assuming that you've removed the yoke from the transmisson end of the driveshaft and just have u-joints attached right now? My first guess would be to put the longer taper toward the transmission, but I'm not sure that it really matters, unless there's some kind of clearance issue. As for the second question, I'm just proud that I figured out that you were talking about an HEI distributor. (It's still early for me). Usually the vacuum port points at about a 45* angle from the firewall, and the connector is aimed at the brake booster. Since we don't have tach-drive distributors like the vettes, it isn't as critical to work with the rotor and housing to get the placement perfect. I'm even less sure about the TCS. Seems like on the vettes, there was a sensor on the passenger side head, and I thought it only had two wires. You might want to look at an AIM to get a better idea. Shawn On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Jim Buckingham wrote: I have a couple of really dumb questions. First the drive shaft, which of the tapered ends goes where. One end gas a taper that is about 10-24 inches long and the other has about 6-8. Second, HWI where dow the connection point??? Mine is pointed directly at the power brack booster. Seems strange I though I remembered them pointing more towards the fron. The vac port points at about a 45 degree angle across the passenger side valve cover. Third, wiring for TS. I don't have TCS anymore and wondered which wires went to it.. I think there are 3 connectors, just not sure which ones. Thanks, Jim 72 Chevelle Smallblock
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Jim, I'm assuming that you've removed the yoke from the transmisson end of the driveshaft and just have u-joints attached right now? My first guess would be to put the longer taper toward the transmission, but I'm not sure that it really matters, unless there's some kind of clearance issue. As for the second question, I'm just proud that I figured out that you were talking about an HEI distributor. (It's still early for me). Usually the vacuum port points at about a 45* angle from the firewall, and the connector is aimed at the brake booster. Since we don't have tach-drive distributors like the vettes, it isn't as critical to work with the rotor and housing to get the placement perfect. I'm even less sure about the TCS. Seems like on the vettes, there was a sensor on the passenger side head, and I thought it only had two wires. You might want to look at an AIM to get a better idea. Shawn On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Jim Buckingham wrote: I have a couple of really dumb questions. First the drive shaft, which of the tapered ends goes where. One end gas a taper that is about 10-24 inches long and the other has about 6-8. Second, HWI where dow the connection point??? Mine is pointed directly at the power brack booster. Seems strange I though I remembered them pointing more towards the fron. The vac port points at about a 45 degree angle across the passenger side valve cover. Third, wiring for TS. I don't have TCS anymore and wondered which wires went to it.. I think there are 3 connectors, just not sure which ones. Thanks, Jim 72 Chevelle Smallblock smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[Chevelle-list] Questions
I have a couple of really dumb questions. First the drive shaft, which of the tapered ends goes where. One end gas a taper that is about 10-24 inches long and the other has about 6-8. Second, HWI where dow the connection point??? Mine is pointed directly at the power brack booster. Seems strange I though I remembered them pointing more towards the fron. The vac port points at about a 45 degree angle across the passenger side valve cover. Third, wiring for TS. I don't have TCS anymore and wondered which wires went to it.. I think there are 3 connectors, just not sure which ones. Thanks, Jim 72 Chevelle Smallblock
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Sorry, I had some problems with my email account and never got to read any responses to my last couple of posts, so... What kind of goop are people using these days on the bolts from the flexplate to the crank? Does anyone know what size nuts & bolts are used to attach the torque converter to the flexplate? Any suggestions on how to get x-man bolts out that have stripped heads? I will be pulling the enigne out one more time, which would probably be the best time to get these. I also need to get a busted bleeder out of one of the calipers. Do you think an EZ-out would get it? Thanks, John Nasta
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Jim The internal regulated alternator that looks like the standard external reg alternator is the SI model. Easiest thing to do would go to parts store and ask to look at several of the SIs from 73-80 ish Camaro or chevelle. You want one which is "clocked" the same as your original. That means when the mount tabs are aligned similar to your stock unit, the plug in connector on the back is in the same relative position. If you can't find one that is clocked the same, you can buy one thats close and loosen the 3 or 4 small case screws and rotate to get the correct clocking. Ideally if you have an alternator/starter rebuild place nearby the counter person should be able to fix you up. And I believe stock output was 63 Amps. So get at least that much - but as many things in life, bigger is better . You can also consider the CS style alternator with info here: http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html I have the aluminum van radiator in a box in the garage, if you want pictures I can send you a link. I bought it when they were first mentioned at Chevelle Tech, got a good deal on a used (never installed) unit. Thats been several years and it seems that since then, there are several other aluminum rads available for similar pricing. On 4/3/06, Jim Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am closer to installing the engine in my 72. Got a couple of questions, I have a new wiring harness for the engine. I got a three wire internal reg connector. I will not be running any big loads and wondered what alternator to get and what brackets will be needed if different for the standard small block ones. Also, will need a new radiator. Hints or suggestions?? I remember a while back of talk of an alum one that was used in a step van. Thanks in advance, Jim Buckingham-- Rick Schaefer72 TPI El Camino
[Chevelle-list] Questions - Radiator Alternator
I am closer to installing the engine in my 72. Got a couple of questions, I have a new wiring harness for the engine. I got a three wire internal reg connector. I will not be running any big loads and wondered what alternator to get and what brackets will be needed if different for the standard small block ones. Also, will need a new radiator. Hints or suggestions?? I remember a while back of talk of an alum one that was used in a step van. Thanks in advance, Jim Buckingham
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Nope. It was just me not paying enough attention,Dale. I drove my El Camino to work today and it was dark when I left the house. The running lights do stay on with the headlights. Sorry for any confusion I caused. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Clint, Wonder if it has anything to do with the 68 front end and maybe wiring harness is different? Consensus seems to be that parking lights remaining on is a 68 and newer thing for Chevelles. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:05 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise The parking lights go out on my 69 when the headlights are turned on. I wish they would all stay on. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale As 68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe thats when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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Clint, Wonder if it has anything to do with the 68 front end and maybe wiring harness is different? Consensus seems to be that parking lights remaining on is a 68 and newer thing for Chevelles. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:05 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise The parking lights go out on my 69 when the headlights are turned on. I wish they would all stay on. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale As ’68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe that’s when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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I looked at mine again this morning, and I WAS WRONG AGAIN!! The parking lights DO stay on with the headlights. Sorry guys. Will someone please bring a HD John Deere tractor down here to pull my head out of my a--?? BillL At 09:14 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote: The 68 Chevelle I have, the running lights remain on when the headlights are one. Also, I confirmed tonight that 67-older Fords are the same way, headlights only on, no running lights. Tom
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I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics tech school student. I wanted to make my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight switch to see what I could do. I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking around with a meter I found that I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting bar. It took working the lug out of the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right hole. I added those amber bulbs to the front and my parking lights have come on with the headlights for years. Chuck 65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed do the parking lights also come on by themselves as well?? Harlan Nothing "comes on by themselves" _you_ have to move the switch to the first (parking lights) postion. :-) Unless you're _really_ lonely! :-)
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In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:22:56 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics tech school student. I wanted to make my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight switch to see what I could do. I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking around with a meter I found that I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting bar. It took working the lug out of the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right hole. I added those amber bulbs to the front and my parking lights have come on with the headlights for years. Chuck 65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed do the parking lights also come on by themselves as well?? Harlan
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The 68 Chevelle I have, the running lights remain on when the headlights are one. Also, I confirmed tonight that 67-older Fords are the same way, headlights only on, no running lights. Tom
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The parking lights stay on with the headlights on my 69 Chevelle Denny
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LOL I did this 30 years ago. I would have noticed. :-)
You made the parking lights come on with the headlights.
Do the headlights now come on with the parking lights?
Dennis McGillis
' 65 Malibu SS-(Soon to be) 350
The name changes with the function. When they're parking lights,
they give the vehicle definition at night, while parked.
Remember, white lights in the direction of travel.
ie: backup lights while in reverse. When the headlights are on
they are defined as running lights. In the day, sealed beam headlights
would fail quite often. This gives the vehicle definition at night
when traveling so it wouldn't be mistaken for a motorcycle.
Parking lights / Running lights at the swap of a connector terminal.
The tail lights act as parking lights and stay on through both
positions
of the headlight switch. So simply combining the tail lights with the
front parking lights will give you the desired effect. (The shorting bar
in my headlight switch made a pin available to connect the tail lights
to the parking lights in parallel)
Note: This has nothing to do with brake lights / signal lights which
is
accomplished with complex switching at your signal lever in your
steering column and a load sensitive flasher. That's a different
animal.
Chuck K
65 Malibu, engine #4 vortec'd 327 - 4 speed owned 35 years
Never
really paid much attention but
were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same
time as
the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ‘parking
lights’ ? Curious minds want to know.
Dale
McIntosh
67
El Camino
1967
Chevelle Reference CD now available!
ACES
#1709/TC
Gold #92
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Original Message -
From:
Malibu65
To:
The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent:
Monday, January 30, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject:
Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise
I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics
tech school student. I wanted to
make my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight
switch to see what I could do.
I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking
around with a meter I found
that I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting
bar. It took working the lug out
of the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right
hole. I added those amber bulbs
to the front and my parking lights have stayed on with the headlights
for years.
Chuck
65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed
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That, was the issue, Mike. It seems as if I remember when the head lights are on, the parking lights are not on. What was the solution on that? Also, my chrome moldings are just the factory tin or whatever pieces and look to be in good shape. I can buff them and have them installed when windshield is installed. mike --- Mike Holleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike > The mouldings you mentioned are SS. Just hit them > with wax when you wax the > car. Alum trim would benefit from an occcasional > metal polishing. Stainless > dosen't have to be waxed, but it will make them > clean up more easily and > less likely to water spot. I don't know what to tell > you on the > headlight/parklight issue. On the older Chevelles > the park light lit when > the switch was in the middle position and went out > when the headlights came > on. Somefolks like the parking lights to stay on > with the headlights. It > should be fairly easy to do this by locating the > switched wires that control > these functions and linking them. > Mike > - Original Message - > From: "mike f" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:34 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise > > > >I have several things to ask you're thoughts on. > > > > 1, I polished the chrome trim for the windshield > and > > rear window glass (most of it anyway)with a buffer > > wheel and products from Eastwood. My question is, > > should I use anything to seal it after polishing > it? > > > > #2 Quite some time ago, discussion on the parking > > lights on some early models don't come on unless > the > > head lights are on. Someone said the headlight > switch > > could be rewired to make the parking lights work > as > > expected. Can you remind me of that solution? > > > > > > thanks > > mike > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - > Release Date: 1/27/2006 > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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You made the parking lights come on with the headlights.Do the headlights now come on with the parking lights? Dennis McGillis '65 Malibu SS-(Soon to be) 350 - Original Message - From: Malibu65 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics tech school student. I wanted tomake my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight switch to see what I could do.I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking around with a meter I foundthat I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting bar. It took working the lug outof the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right hole. I added those amber bulbsto the front and my parking lights have come on with the headlights for years.Chuck65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed
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That was the solution. I am installing new Painless 18 circuit assembly and am at the dash area. Thanks for the reminder. mike --- rocky hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike, > > Play it safe, and disconnect the battery first. Then > > disconnect the light switch from the dash, and > drop > it > > down below the edge of the dash. Before you unplug > the > > wiring harness from the switch, look at the > position > > of the purple wire in the connector. It will be in > a > > slot which is at the end of the switch, farthest > from > > the dash. Look for an open slot in the conector > which > > is at the other end of the connector, towards the > > dash. Remove the connector from the light switch, > and > > then release the terminal of the purple wire from > the > > connector using a small screwdriver (you do this > from > > the light switch side of the connector). Insert > the > > terminal of the purple wire into the open slot of > the > > connector which you identified earlier (the one > closer > > to the dash). Then just reconnect the wiring > harness > > to the light switch, and reinstall the light > switch > > into the dash, and reconnect the battery. Now the > > parking lights will function as before in the > halfway > > position, but remain on when the headlights are > > switched on. > > > --- mike f <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have several things to ask you're thoughts on. > > > > 1, I polished the chrome trim for the windshield > and > > rear window glass (most of it anyway)with a buffer > > wheel and products from Eastwood. My question is, > > should I use anything to seal it after polishing > it? > > > > #2 Quite some time ago, discussion on the parking > > lights on some early models don't come on unless > the > > head lights are on. Someone said the headlight > > switch > > could be rewired to make the parking lights work > as > > expected. Can you remind me of that solution? > > > > > > thanks > > mike > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Some one suggested to just run a wire to connect the running lights to the headlights. This would make the head lights come on when the running lights come on because they would back feed the headlights. This would not be a problem unless you wanted to just run your running lights and not your headlights. A simple way to make the running lights stay on when the headlight are on is to wire a relay to power up with the headlight power and hook up a jumper to the running light circuit from a normally open switch leg of the relay. The power for the running lights could come from a jumper off of the same wire that you use to power the relay. Just jump it to the other side of the normally open switch in the relay. This could be done under the dash or even under the hood if you bought a weather proof relay switch. If you need a schematic, I could draw one up real quick and send it to you. You can get a 30 amp relay for 6 or 8 dollars most any where at an auto parts store. As I am thinking about this, I seam to remember that there are 2 separate circuits that power up the running lights on some cars. One for the front and one for the back. If this is the case, then both front and back circuits would have to be tied in to the same place on the relay. - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise The parking lights go out on my 69 when the headlights are turned on. I wish they would all stay on. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
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Dispels that theory, thanks Bill! Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:35 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise 68's did not have the park lights on with the headlights. BillL At 10:17 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: As 68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe thats when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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68's did not have the park lights on with the headlights. BillL At 10:17 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: As 68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe thats when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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You guys might want to check you State's laws before you alter the switches; may not be legal.-Original Message- From: Malibu65 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 31, 2006 2:22 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics tech school student. I wanted tomake my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight switch to see what I could do.I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking around with a meter I foundthat I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting bar. It took working the lug outof the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right hole. I added those amber bulbsto the front and my parking lights have come on with the headlights for years.Chuck65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed Never really paid much attention but were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same time as the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ?parking lights? ? Curious minds want to know. That's a good question Dale. I first noticed this while fixing some wiring on a 66 Malibu, I couldn't figure out why the parking lights wouldn't come on with the headlights, but came on by themselves. It was perplexing at the time, then I found out that's the way they are. I'm going to do some research and find out if any pre 68 Fords or Mopars do the same thing.
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FWIW, My '67 GMC's parking lights go out when the headlights are turned on.-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 30, 2006 11:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise In a message dated 1/30/2006 11:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As ?68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe that?s when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh I have a perfect guy to ask about the Fords. One of the guys at school has a 61 Galaxie. I'll see if we can turn em on tomorrow and see what happens. Tom
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Back in the day (late 60's) they use to make a kit for Parking lights to come on with the headlights. Larry (Z)
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Why Tom can't ya wait until it gets dark at 8:30 ? If ya don't get home till 9:00 PM it still will be dark :-X Larry (Z)
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The parking lights go out on my 69 when the headlights are turned on. I wish they would all stay on. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale As 68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe thats when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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I had that same question in the mid 70's when I was an electronics tech school student. I wanted to make my parking lights stay on. So on my '65 I removed the headlight switch to see what I could do. I noticed a small brass shorting bar on the switch's pins. After poking around with a meter I found that I could move a lug in the connector to the pin over the shorting bar. It took working the lug out of the connector with a paper clip and putting it back in the right hole. I added those amber bulbs to the front and my parking lights have come on with the headlights for years. Chuck 65 Malibu 327 - 4 speed Never really paid much attention but were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same time as the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ‘parking lights’ ? Curious minds want to know. That's a good question Dale. I first noticed this while fixing some wiring on a 66 Malibu, I couldn't figure out why the parking lights wouldn't come on with the headlights, but came on by themselves. It was perplexing at the time, then I found out that's the way they are. I'm going to do some research and find out if any pre 68 Fords or Mopars do the same thing.
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In a message dated 1/30/2006 11:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As ’68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe that’s when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh I have a perfect guy to ask about the Fords. One of the guys at school has a 61 Galaxie. I'll see if we can turn em on tomorrow and see what happens. Tom
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As ’68 was the first year of the side marker lamps, maybe that’s when they kept parking lamps on as well? Be a bit of trivia that may come in handy later. Be sure to let us know what you discover Very few pre-68 cars around here. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:51 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise In a message dated 1/30/2006 9:58:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never really paid much attention but were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same time as the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ‘parking lights’ ? Curious minds want to know. That's a good question Dale. I first noticed this while fixing some wiring on a 66 Malibu, I couldn't figure out why the parking lights wouldn't come on with the headlights, but came on by themselves. It was perplexing at the time, then I found out that's the way they are. I'm going to do some research and find out if any pre 68 Fords or Mopars do the same thing. Tom
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In a message dated 1/30/2006 9:58:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never really paid much attention but were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same time as the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ‘parking lights’ ? Curious minds want to know. That's a good question Dale. I first noticed this while fixing some wiring on a 66 Malibu, I couldn't figure out why the parking lights wouldn't come on with the headlights, but came on by themselves. It was perplexing at the time, then I found out that's the way they are. I'm going to do some research and find out if any pre 68 Fords or Mopars do the same thing. Tom
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In a message dated 1/30/2006 9:53:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now we get to buy more bulbs more often because they're on more. Hey, Tom, had a chance to measure your top yet??BillL Bill, Email me a reminder. I don't get home till 9 PM every night this week except Friday. Going to work in the dark, and getting home in the dark gets old, can't wait till it's light till 8:30 again!! Tom
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Never really paid much attention but were any pre-68 cars designed to have the parking lights on at the same time as the headlamps? I figured that is how they got the moniker of ‘parking lights’ ? Curious minds want to know. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD now available! ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:29 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise On pre 67 cars, the parking lights are not supposed to be on when the headlights are one, that's the way it was designed for some odd reason. Tom
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Now we get to buy more bulbs more often because they're on more. Hey, Tom, had a chance to measure your top yet?? BillL At 08:28 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: On pre 67 cars, the parking lights are not supposed to be on when the headlights are one, that's the way it was designed for some odd reason. Tom
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On pre 67 cars, the parking lights are not supposed to be on when the headlights are one, that's the way it was designed for some odd reason. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise/Fix For Headlight Switch
Mike, Play it safe, and disconnect the battery first. Then > disconnect the light switch from the dash, and drop it > down below the edge of the dash. Before you unplug the > wiring harness from the switch, look at the position > of the purple wire in the connector. It will be in a > slot which is at the end of the switch, farthest from > the dash. Look for an open slot in the conector which > is at the other end of the connector, towards the > dash. Remove the connector from the light switch, and > then release the terminal of the purple wire from the > connector using a small screwdriver (you do this from > the light switch side of the connector). Insert the > terminal of the purple wire into the open slot of the > connector which you identified earlier (the one closer > to the dash). Then just reconnect the wiring harness > to the light switch, and reinstall the light switch > into the dash, and reconnect the battery. Now the > parking lights will function as before in the halfway > position, but remain on when the headlights are > switched on. --- mike f <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have several things to ask you're thoughts on. > > 1, I polished the chrome trim for the windshield and > rear window glass (most of it anyway)with a buffer > wheel and products from Eastwood. My question is, > should I use anything to seal it after polishing it? > > #2 Quite some time ago, discussion on the parking > lights on some early models don't come on unless the > head lights are on. Someone said the headlight > switch > could be rewired to make the parking lights work as > expected. Can you remind me of that solution? > > > thanks > mike > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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The windshield and rear window trim are stainless steel. There is no reason to seal it after buffing. My only suggestion is to hold on tight and work away from the center away from the rotation of the wheel. If it gets away from you, particularly on a high speed buffer you may be looking for a new piece of trim. I turned one into a pretzel. Dan Solomon Never be afraid to try something new. An Amateur built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
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Mike The mouldings you mentioned are SS. Just hit them with wax when you wax the car. Alum trim would benefit from an occcasional metal polishing. Stainless dosen't have to be waxed, but it will make them clean up more easily and less likely to water spot. I don't know what to tell you on the headlight/parklight issue. On the older Chevelles the park light lit when the switch was in the middle position and went out when the headlights came on. Somefolks like the parking lights to stay on with the headlights. It should be fairly easy to do this by locating the switched wires that control these functions and linking them. Mike - Original Message - From: "mike f" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Questions and advise I have several things to ask you're thoughts on. 1, I polished the chrome trim for the windshield and rear window glass (most of it anyway)with a buffer wheel and products from Eastwood. My question is, should I use anything to seal it after polishing it? #2 Quite some time ago, discussion on the parking lights on some early models don't come on unless the head lights are on. Someone said the headlight switch could be rewired to make the parking lights work as expected. Can you remind me of that solution? thanks mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/2006
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I have several things to ask you're thoughts on. 1, I polished the chrome trim for the windshield and rear window glass (most of it anyway)with a buffer wheel and products from Eastwood. My question is, should I use anything to seal it after polishing it? #2 Quite some time ago, discussion on the parking lights on some early models don't come on unless the head lights are on. Someone said the headlight switch could be rewired to make the parking lights work as expected. Can you remind me of that solution? thanks mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thank you very much for the info... Now off to find one in California... Thomas 69 yenko From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions on 12 bolt rear... Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 02:14:49 EDT In a message dated 5/1/2005 2:06:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. what years of Chevy's can I use for the rear without modification? 68-72 A bodies (Chevelle, Monte Carlo, Skylark/GS, LeMans/GTO, Cutlass/442 2. What is the width of the rear end from backing plate to backing plate? not 100% sure, but I can measure the spare I have in my garage tomorrow 3. What does changing a non-posi or wronged geared posi to a right geared posi. I.e. I find a 12 bolt with a non posi, 3.08. I want to change it to a 3.55 posi. What is involved? Buying a differential, gears, and all the bearings which will cost you about $700 in parts plus you need to have the know how to do it. If you have never done it, I recommend having someone that knows what they are doing build it. 4. Do I need to look for a certain part # or #'s that are the strongest rear? Nope, all the same 5. Any rear ends that I should avoid? Yes, the Olds 12 bolt. It has a 12 bolt cover and a 10 bolt differential, not a true 12 bolt 6. How much is a reasonable price for a rear end used/new? With posi/without posi? Depends on where you live, I've been seeing rears going anywhere from $500 and up, if it's a posi, double it 7. Are there any reliable vendors in San Jose, CA that I should frequent? ie. GM Sports? As far as what kind of parts? OPG is in Long Beach, True Connections is near Moreno Valley 8. Does the driveshaft length change between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt? Yes, the U Joints are also different Tom
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It depends on what pinion yoke was used on the 12 bolt. There were like 3 or 4 different ones. High performance cars (IE L78, L89, LS6) got a 1350 series pinion yoke which were much bigger than than the normal stock 1310 series. There are also variations of how the caps set in the yoke also. Some had little tabs on the end, some did not. Not all pinion yokes use the 2 straps and bolts either. The one on my 12 bolt uses the U bolts. To be sure on what your application is, best thing to do is measure it with a caliper. I ended up using a junk joint to get mine to work. Tom
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Can use the same driveshaft. I did a swap last fall and used the same driveshaft. Don't remember any difference in the U-joints either. The U-joint connection to the rear is different (bolts and strap instead of u-bolt and nuts) but the U-joints were the same. Trooper - Original Message - From: "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Questions on 12 bolt rear... > Are you sure about the different driveshaft? I recall using my original > driveshaft when I swapped from 10-bolt to 12-bolt. The different u-joint > does seem to come to mind, though. > > > > -Dave > > > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:15 AM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions on 12 bolt rear... > > [snip] > > > 8. Does the driveshaft length change between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt? > > Yes, the U Joints are also different > > > > Tom > >
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Are you sure about the different driveshaft? I recall using my original driveshaft when I swapped from 10-bolt to 12-bolt. The different u-joint does seem to come to mind, though. -Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:15 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Questions on 12 bolt rear... [snip] 8. Does the driveshaft length change between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt? Yes, the U Joints are also different Tom
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In a message dated 5/1/2005 2:06:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. what years of Chevy's can I use for the rear without modification? 68-72 A bodies (Chevelle, Monte Carlo, Skylark/GS, LeMans/GTO, Cutlass/442 2. What is the width of the rear end from backing plate to backing plate? not 100% sure, but I can measure the spare I have in my garage tomorrow 3. What does changing a non-posi or wronged geared posi to a right geared posi. I.e. I find a 12 bolt with a non posi, 3.08. I want to change it to a 3.55 posi. What is involved? Buying a differential, gears, and all the bearings which will cost you about $700 in parts plus you need to have the know how to do it. If you have never done it, I recommend having someone that knows what they are doing build it. 4. Do I need to look for a certain part # or #'s that are the strongest rear? Nope, all the same 5. Any rear ends that I should avoid? Yes, the Olds 12 bolt. It has a 12 bolt cover and a 10 bolt differential, not a true 12 bolt 6. How much is a reasonable price for a rear end used/new? With posi/without posi? Depends on where you live, I've been seeing rears going anywhere from $500 and up, if it's a posi, double it 7. Are there any reliable vendors in San Jose, CA that I should frequent? ie. GM Sports? As far as what kind of parts? OPG is in Long Beach, True Connections is near Moreno Valley 8. Does the driveshaft length change between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt? Yes, the U Joints are also different Tom
[Chevelle-list] Questions on 12 bolt rear...
Hi All, I haven't had a chevy in over 10 years. I will be in need of a 12 bolt posi unit for my 69 chevelle. With that in mind, a few questions need to be answered. 1. what years of Chevy's can I use for the rear without modification? 2. What is the width of the rear end from backing plate to backing plate? 3. What does changing a non-posi or wronged geared posi to a right geared posi. I.e. I find a 12 bolt with a non posi, 3.08. I want to change it to a 3.55 posi. What is involved? 4. Do I need to look for a certain part # or #'s that are the strongest rear? 5. Any rear ends that I should avoid? 6. How much is a reasonable price for a rear end used/new? With posi/without posi? 7. Are there any reliable vendors in San Jose, CA that I should frequent? ie. GM Sports? 8. Does the driveshaft length change between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt? thanks Thomas
Re: [Chevelle-List] questions on 68 ss 396
In a message dated 1/18/03 10:37:44 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << My understanding is the valve covers and the air cleaner usage is based on the horsepower level of the installed engine. The 325hp rating received the black snorkel air cleaner w/painted valve covers. The chrome valve covers and open element air cleaner were installed on the 350 & 375hp engines. Kent >> hey Kent, thanks for the reply!! appreciate it! Harlan - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with Kent's information. Larry (Z)
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Harkem, My understanding is the valve covers and the air cleaner usage is based on the horsepower level of the installed engine. The 325hp rating received the black snorkel air cleaner w/painted valve covers. The chrome valve covers and open element air cleaner were installed on the 350 & 375hp engines. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 should the 68 chevelle ss396 have chrome or painted valve covers?? should the air cleaner be a open element chrome round or the black with a snorkel thanks! H - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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should the 68 chevelle ss396 have chrome or painted valve covers?? should the air cleaner be a open element chrome round or the black with a snorkle thanks! H - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 11/6/2002 7:48:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I got a used header for my El Camino I had to drill another > hole or two. YES i tried to position the chevelle on the header but none of the holes for the chevelle emblem line up with those in the header-one hole is high the other lower. how about a Malibu?? the tech guy at year one said i could make it a malibu ss396, but in my chevelle books it says for 68 only chevelles were ss396, in 69 it seems it could be a chevelle or malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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68 El Caminos had "El Camino" on the header where as Chevelles had "Chevelle" there. It might have something to do with that. As I recall, when I got a used header for my El Camino I had to drill another hole or two. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:28 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] questions... > i purchased a chevelle emblem for the front header panel ON MY 68 chevelle, the emblem has 4-studs but my header panel only has 2 holes- any one know what the story is on this? > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i purchased a chevelle emblem for the front header panel ON MY 68 chevelle, the emblem has 4-studs but my header panel only has 2 holes- any one know what the story is on this? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I went with the GW upper arms and bushings. Also used their bushings in my lower arms. Spindles from 86 Caprice wagon (12") , calipers from 75/6 camaro. Hoses too. I agonized over which calipers to use. I didn't know if there were 12" specific calipers. NO! GM made very small changes in calipers over the years. They mount the same, The most significant change, was that I believe (but am still not 1000% sure) that they changed the hose threads to a metric thread about 78.I also had a difficult time with hoses. I'd heard that 72 grand prix hoses are slightly longer, but when I checked part #'s at www.advanceautoparts.com they were the same as for my 72 elky originals. The camaro hoses are a bit longer, but they are tight at full extension. rick On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:57:18 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Did you reuse your stock upper control arms or did you use the after > market > ones? > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I used aftermarket ones, from Hotchkis. -Dave, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Did you reuse your stock upper control arms or did you use the after market ones? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Did you reuse your stock upper control arms or did you use the after market ones? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The 80 TA rotors are 11" very similar (size) to the stock discs. 12" rotors will give better braking. Either way the tall spindles do handle better than stock front suspension. The tall spindles lower the front end by 1" +/- (exactly on my elky) and also will move the front wheels 3/8 inch further out. Just some additional info for you. rick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 01:22:32 EST Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List My goal is using bigger brakes and maybe give it a better grip without going dry in the back pocket. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List My goal is using bigger brakes and maybe give it a better grip without going dry in the back pocket. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List BALL JOINT - Get your mind out of the gutter. rick On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:26:41 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > BJ? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars: parts list
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: [Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars BJ? --- Ball-joint. Get your mind out of the gutter! ;-) Since there has been constant interest in this topic, this is the parts list I compiled *after* I finished doing my conversion to 12" brakes, using Hotchkis stuff. Sorry the readability is not the best. I'm cutting and pasting from an excel spreadsheet I keep. I bought everything at my local Murray's auto parts store (chain), except where noted. 11" brakes from a 70-81 F-body will work too. You use the spindle and all the related parts (rotor, caliper, bearings, dust shields, etc). Everything else is the same. As for the ball joint specifically, my instructions from Hotchkis stated which lower ball joint to buy and that the base had to be machined down x-inches to fit the A-body lower control arm. The alternative was to buy a pre-machined ball-joint directly from Hotchkis for $60. I chose the latter to keep matters simple. Spindles for 12" brakes: Junkyard/parts car '86 Cadillac Full Size (GM B-Body) Rotors for 1LE Camaro: 85994 (NAPA) (12", with proper 5 x 4 3/4" bolt pattern) Inner Wheel Bearing: A3 Outer Wheel Bearing: A6 Grease Seals: ?? Calipers: '86 Caprice (w/ HD brakes) Brake Pads: 86 Caprice (w/ HD brakes) Disc Brake Dust Sheilds: GM 344023, 344024 Master Cylinder: 70 Chevelle w/ Disc Brakes (I'm using it W/O a power-booster) Brake Hoses: Wagner F98912 Caliper Pins: ?? off the rack from Murray's -- very common part Proportioning Valve & Bracket: Master Power Brakes (disc/drum) Lower Ball Joint: Hotchkis 1155 Outer Tie Rod: Moog 2033RL -- note, Hotchkis lists different outer tie-rod numbers for 64-70 cars, and another for 71-72. This is the 64-70 number. Also, if your inner/outers are on backwards, like mine were, it'll really add to the frustration factor until you figure it out. Hope this helps some people out. This is a very do-able swap, although it may seem a little daunting when you start. The results are TOTALLY WORTHWHILE. I can't say this enough. -Dave, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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BJ? --- Begin Message --- Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I'm pretty sure that you can, but you must use a matching rotor (11"). The only question is the ball joint that was used in 80, but I'm almost positive that TA used the same taper BJ as a b-body.Your best bet, is call global west & talk with Doug. Or hotchkis if you want to use theirs. I had a couple of questions when I installed his system and doug went out of the way to make sure that I understood everything. What is your ultimate goal? I know of someone who was successful in swapping to tall spindles without using either GW or hotchkis control arms.He has a web site detailing everything. rick On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:48:57 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > So, can I use the WS6 spindles of a I think 79 or 80 TA? > Would this be considerred the same type of spindle you mentioned > earlier in > the topic? If so I have access to these types. > > > P. Hernandez > 68 chevelle > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message ---
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I'm pretty sure that you can, but you must use a matching rotor (11"). The only question is the ball joint that was used in 80, but I'm almost positive that TA used the same taper BJ as a b-body.Your best bet, is call global west & talk with Doug. Or hotchkis if you want to use theirs. I had a couple of questions when I installed his system and doug went out of the way to make sure that I understood everything. What is your ultimate goal? I know of someone who was successful in swapping to tall spindles without using either GW or hotchkis control arms.He has a web site detailing everything. rick On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:48:57 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > So, can I use the WS6 spindles of a I think 79 or 80 TA? > Would this be considerred the same type of spindle you mentioned > earlier in > the topic? If so I have access to these types. > > > P. Hernandez > 68 chevelle > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Firebird and Camaro are F-Bodies and TTBOMK no 2nd-
gen ('70-81) Firebird ever came with 12" rotors. The
12" swap is often done on F-Bodies and any writeup I've
ever seen has included the swapping in of B-Body
spindles. So to sort of answer your question, I'm
pretty sure the spindles you're thinking of won't work
with the 12" rotors.
How's that for a definitive answer? ;^)
Brad O.
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rick s. our web site with the jimmy4/rick does not work for me would like to see the 72 elky --- Begin Message --- Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry One last time tonite These are some good web pages: >http://home.earthlink.net/~cjcarri/brkswap/brkswap.htm#spindl > >http://www.geocities.com/skullmobile/brakes.htm > >http://links.chevelles.net/links/WorkShop/Brakes_Suspension/ > >http://chevelles.com/techref/ > >http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref2.html rick On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:44:10 -0600 richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:51:59 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If anybody can help, > > What year were the b-body cars produced from and > What b-body > spindles > to use for using the global west upper tubular > control > arms or > the > hotchkis control arms? > > > The spindles to use for 12" rotors (1LE camaro) are 79 thru about > 92. > These use the A3/A6 bearings that are needed for the 1LE rotors. > Many > and probably most of these cars had 11" rotors. I found about 6 > cars > with the 12", all were station wagons. Mine came off an 86 > caprice > estate wagon. > > rick schaefer > 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > Team Chevelle # 0038 > ACES #0140 > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message ---
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List So, can I use the WS6 spindles of a I think 79 or 80 TA? Would this be considerred the same type of spindle you mentioned earlier in the topic? If so I have access to these types. P. Hernandez 68 chevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry One last time tonite These are some good web pages: >http://home.earthlink.net/~cjcarri/brkswap/brkswap.htm#spindl > >http://www.geocities.com/skullmobile/brakes.htm > >http://links.chevelles.net/links/WorkShop/Brakes_Suspension/ > >http://chevelles.com/techref/ > >http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref2.html rick On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:44:10 -0600 richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:51:59 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If anybody can help, > > What year were the b-body cars produced from and > What b-body > spindles > to use for using the global west upper tubular > control > arms or > the > hotchkis control arms? > > > The spindles to use for 12" rotors (1LE camaro) are 79 thru about > 92. > These use the A3/A6 bearings that are needed for the 1LE rotors. > Many > and probably most of these cars had 11" rotors. I found about 6 > cars > with the 12", all were station wagons. Mine came off an 86 > caprice > estate wagon. > > rick schaefer > 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > Team Chevelle # 0038 > ACES #0140 > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I didn't say but, there is a difference between spindles for 11" & 12" rotors. Do you have a preference? The 11's are much easier to find. You can use earlier than 79 spindles, but I'm not sure which rotors you'd use. These earlier spindles use A2/A6 bearings. Also about 83 the spindles were made lighter & stronger (or so I've read). rick - once more On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:44:10 -0600 richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:51:59 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If anybody can help, > > What year were the b-body cars produced from and > What b-body > spindles > to use for using the global west upper tubular > control > arms or > the > hotchkis control arms? > > > The spindles to use for 12" rotors (1LE camaro) are 79 thru about > 92. > These use the A3/A6 bearings that are needed for the 1LE rotors. > Many > and probably most of these cars had 11" rotors. I found about 6 > cars > with the 12", all were station wagons. Mine came off an 86 > caprice > estate wagon. > > rick schaefer > 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > Team Chevelle # 0038 > ACES #0140 > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:51:59 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If anybody can help, > What year were the b-body cars produced from and > What b-body spindles to use for using the global west upper tubular > control > arms or the hotchkis control arms? The spindles to use for 12" rotors (1LE camaro) are 79 thru about 92. These use the A3/A6 bearings that are needed for the 1LE rotors. Many and probably most of these cars had 11" rotors. I found about 6 cars with the 12", all were station wagons. Mine came off an 86 caprice estate wagon. rick schaefer 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L Team Chevelle # 0038 ACES #0140 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] questions on b-body cars
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List If anybody can help, What year were the b-body cars produced from and What b-body spindles to use for using the global west upper tubular control arms or the hotchkis control arms? P. Hernandez 68 chevelle 94 Z28 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kelly same place same station Tennessee
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List In a message dated 8/4/01 12:11:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Where are they having it next year? >> I have been emailing Chuck back and forth all week. they have to meet with park officials and figure things out. But i am pretty sure it will be in Nashville again. No dates set yet Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List In a message dated 8/3/01 11:19:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Very nice looking motor (& car)...I'd love to have the Elky version! >> You can check it out at Chevellabration next year. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >Check out my website on the 70 I built Very nice looking motor (& car)...I'd love to have the Elky version! Kelly & Jana Hanna 2 Elky 350/350's 4 weeks til East Texas - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
