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Bob, Steve, Brian, Thanks for the input. There's a Radio Shack close by work. I'll swing by there tomorrow and see if they have anything the will do the job. Also, the guy from the stereo shop called and his expert suggested I put a cap on the alternator (where the fans get power) that will shunt the excess power to ground. I doubt this stuff will be expensive so I can try both ideas. cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: Brian Zack To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. I would think that a diode to stop feedback coming back through the system might do the trick too. (Because they limit current flow to only one direction IIRC) Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibumailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 4:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Herbert, I don't think that it is your alternator, but your fans that are causing the problem. When electric fans start, they create a very large voltage spike, that can send feedback through your system. Using a high power amplifier and subwoofer can cause a pop or other noise. The solution is to isolate the fans from the rest of the electrical system with blocking diodes. Bob Walton MCC - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
RE: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
I would think that a diode to stop feedback coming back through the system might do the trick too. (Because they limit current flow to only one direction IIRC) Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibumailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 4:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Herbert, I don't think that it is your alternator, but your fans that are causing the problem. When electric fans start, they create a very large voltage spike, that can send feedback through your system. Using a high power amplifier and subwoofer can cause a pop or other noise. The solution is to isolate the fans from the rest of the electrical system with blocking diodes. Bob Walton MCC - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
Herbert, I don't think that it is your alternator, but your fans that are causing the problem. When electric fans start, they create a very large voltage spike, that can send feedback through your system. Using a high power amplifier and subwoofer can cause a pop or other noise. The solution is to isolate the fans from the rest of the electrical system with blocking diodes. Bob Walton MCC - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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oops! Sorry about that.. It was late when I read that and somehow I got it in my head that it was when you turned it on. My bad :) Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Hey Rodney, I checked the link but that's not going to help. My system doesn't thump when I turn it on, it thumps when it's already on and then the electric engine cooling fans kick on. As for the cap, from what I've read about them, you're right, but my understanding is they also act like a shock absorber of sorts for power spikes such as what I think is happening when my fans kick on and the alternator suddenly increases its output. cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: Rodney. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Hey Herb, I don't think a cap will prohibit this "thump" sound from happening. My understanding of a cap is that it "stores" power so that when you hit a deep bass note, it'll hit with full force or power. You're obviously getting enough power to make this "thump" sound so you shouldn't need more power from a reserve storage of power. If anything that'll make the "thump" sound stronger. The cap is usually for a problem like your when your headlights dim at night when deep bass notes are played. The normal power from the battery runs the headlights (and everything else) at a consistent power level and then the deep bass note uses the normal power plus whatever reserve power is stored in the cap. To stop this "thump" you have I think you're looking for something like this http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISPSON Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodney.Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:53 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Hey Herb, I don't think a cap will prohibit this "thump" sound from happening. My understanding of a cap is that it "stores" power so that when you hit a deep bass note, it'll hit with full force or power. You're obviously getting enough power to make this "thump" sound so you shouldn't need more power from a reserve storage of power. If anything that'll make the "thump" sound stronger. The cap is usually for a problem like your when your headlights dim at night when deep bass notes are played. The normal power from the battery runs the headlights (and everything else) at a consistent power level and then the deep bass note uses the normal power plus whatever reserve power is stored in the cap. To stop this "thump" you have I think you're looking for something like this http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISPSON Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ ----- Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
Hey Rodney, I checked the link but that's not going to help. My system doesn't thump when I turn it on, it thumps when it's already on and then the electric engine cooling fans kick on. As for the cap, from what I've read about them, you're right, but my understanding is they also act like a shock absorber of sorts for power spikes such as what I think is happening when my fans kick on and the alternator suddenly increases its output. cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: Rodney. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Hey Herb, I don't think a cap will prohibit this "thump" sound from happening. My understanding of a cap is that it "stores" power so that when you hit a deep bass note, it'll hit with full force or power. You're obviously getting enough power to make this "thump" sound so you shouldn't need more power from a reserve storage of power. If anything that'll make the "thump" sound stronger. The cap is usually for a problem like your when your headlights dim at night when deep bass notes are played. The normal power from the battery runs the headlights (and everything else) at a consistent power level and then the deep bass note uses the normal power plus whatever reserve power is stored in the cap. To stop this "thump" you have I think you're looking for something like this http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISPSON Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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oops, didn't see your reply until I replied... you're right on though. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Jim Weimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. This may sound silly...but they used to sell an anti-thump filter. It was used when you turned on your stereo to keep the subs from thumping. Later, JIM - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
Hey Herb, I don't think a cap will prohibit this "thump" sound from happening. My understanding of a cap is that it "stores" power so that when you hit a deep bass note, it'll hit with full force or power. You're obviously getting enough power to make this "thump" sound so you shouldn't need more power from a reserve storage of power. If anything that'll make the "thump" sound stronger. The cap is usually for a problem like your when your headlights dim at night when deep bass notes are played. The normal power from the battery runs the headlights (and everything else) at a consistent power level and then the deep bass note uses the normal power plus whatever reserve power is stored in the cap. To stop this "thump" you have I think you're looking for something like this http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISPSON Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
This may sound silly...but they used to sell an anti-thump filter. It was used when you turned on your stereo to keep the subs from thumping. Later, JIM - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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Hi Jason, It seemed to me the particular shop I went to dealt with new cars almost entirely. I think the simplicity of my setup had them somewhat confused. I ordered a big cap, btw. At least so far my thoughts are on track with you and some others, so hopefully I'll be able to fix this soon. Thanks. cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: "Jason Boivin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. > Herb, > > I would think your on the right track by putting a big 1 farad capacitor on > the power source to your amp. I am really suprised by the local stereo shop > being stumped. You might ask them to install one and give it a test that way > you can get out of paying for one of those if it doesnt do the trick. > > Jason - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MessageSteve, >You always want to make sure that your wires can handle >the current being drawn though. A 6 gauge wire should >do the job. Actually, the 4 channel amp has the 6 guage wires and the sub amp has 4 guage wires for both pos and neg. >It could also be that the alternator switching on is >causing a spike as you suspect that will effect some >sensitive electronics. You are on the right track in >thinking capacitor. A capacitor is a voltage device >it filters voltage fluctuations, and it won't pass >DC current, so it has to be from the positive line to >the ground. When you say "from the positive line to the ground" where exactly should the cap be placed? The cap I was considering are those big ones you see in the high end sound systems. If I remember correctly these type are in line on the +12v supply wire. >A choke (coil) smoothes out fluctuations >in current. A fairly good filter design is a choke and >a capacitor working together. One of the more common >designs for electrical filtering is a capacitor with >a choke then another capacitor. That's called a Pi >filter due to it looking like the Pi symbol. I haven't >look at Radio Shack lately but they may have something >like that already to install. Would something like this from Radio Shack be suited for 800 watts? >I say go for the voltage/current filter first, then >troubleshoot the relays. They may not be hefty enough >to handle the load. They may need some filtering that >the filter would solve. The stereo shop placed an order for one of those big caps (none in stock for some reason), and they're going to ask some other "experts" about my situation. I don't know how to check if the relays are chattering, but I know the relays can handle the load, they came with the fans (for additional $$ of course). Thanks for the info. cYa- Herb - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Herb, I would think your on the right track by putting a big 1 farad capacitor on the power source to your amp. I am really suprised by the local stereo shop being stumped. You might ask them to install one and give it a test that way you can get out of paying for one of those if it doesnt do the trick. Jason - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think you are correct. It just sends a big bag of juice through the amps, and BOOM! - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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Title: Message Herb, I am not an electrical engineer. I was only a technician. But I had to know most of the theory. Still it's been years so I could be wrong on this and somebody please correct me if I am wrong. First, since the alternator feeds back to the battery to keep it charged, they are electrically the same point no matter where you take your power from .unless you have resistance losses from smaller diameter wire or long distance wires or other things in the circuit (such as terminals with corroded connections) that don't allow the full potential to be felt at that point (- resistance). The alternator is the one feeding the electricity to circuits needing it or your battery would go dead. You always want to make sure that your wires can handle the current being drawn though. A 6 gauge wire should do the job. It could very well be that the relays are chattering when switching. If that's the case, might have to research a fix. It could also be that the alternator switching on is causing a spike as you suspect that will effect some sensitive electronics. You are on the right track in thinking capacitor. A capacitor is a voltage device it filters voltage fluctuations, and it won't pass DC current, so it has to be from the positive line to the ground. A choke (coil) smoothes out fluctuations in current. A fairly good filter design is a choke and a capacitor working together. One of the more common designs for electrical filtering is a capacitor with a choke then another capacitor. That's called a Pi filter due to it looking like the Pi symbol. I haven't look at Radio Shack lately but they may have something like that already to install. I say go for the voltage/current filter first, then troubleshoot the relays. They may not be hefty enough to handle the load. They may need some filtering that the filter would solve. Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:10 PMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question. Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
[Chevelle-List] Stereo question.
Ok all you stereo gurus... Hopefully somebody can help, the guys at the local stereo store are stumped. If I have my stereo on (not loud but normal listening volume) and the electric fans kick on, I get a huge thump through the woofers. The alternator is a CS130 putting out 105 amps. The fans turn on/off with a thermo switch through a pair of relays. The sub amp is running 6 gauge power wire directly off the battery and the fans' main power feed off the alternator. It sounds to me like the fans are causing the alternator to suddenly put out some juice and the sudden power output is causing a surge through the system resulting in a huge thump through the woofers. Am I on the right track or way off base? (no pun intended) Will one of those big capacitors in the power line to the amp absorb the surge or do I need to try something else? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
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I'll be interested to hear what they say about your radio. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of WayneSent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 9:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question I bought the USA-1 model from Custom-Audiosound. The fit was perfect and installation was very easy. Did not interfere with the heater controls located directly beneath them. I also got one of the front speaker kits, has two speakers mounted on direct fit replacement bracket. The sound quality was pretty decent and the over appearance was very nice. They come with bowtie logo on the cassette door. The price was not bad either. Unfortunately mine died last night. I will be calling their tech support to see what they have to say. Over all the appearance, fit and sound are worth considering if you want a direct replacement unit. Wayne 66 Malibu -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Craig, My dash is anything but stock so I never even checked into direct fit receivers. You might check out Crutchfield's website. Even if you don't buy from them, you'll be able to see what's available. Custom Autosound has direct fit receivers and "hidden" systems you might like... http://www.crutchfield.com http://www.custom-autosound.com/ cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"ACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Herb, Have you found a source other than NPD for receivers that will fit in an uncut '70 chevelle dash? Like you, I'm keen to upgrade the stereo in my car but have not been thrilled with the options I have found. Craig E.
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Thanks, Herb. The custom autosound site is exactly what I wanted. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Craig, My dash is anything but stock so I never even checked into direct fit receivers. You might check out Crutchfield's website. Even if you don't buy from them, you'll be able to see what's available. Custom Autosound has direct fit receivers and "hidden" systems you might like... http://www.crutchfield.com http://www.custom-autosound.com/ cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"ACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Herb, Have you found a source other than NPD for receivers that will fit in an uncut '70 chevelle dash? Like you, I'm keen to upgrade the stereo in my car but have not been thrilled with the options I have found. Craig E.
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Rodney, I didn't get any speaker wires but the power wires for the radio are there. I'll be splicing into those. As for harness mods, M&H only offers a couple things, such as HEI ($14 extra), internal regulator (another $14) and since I used a one wire alternator, I was told to just fold the extras back and cover them with tape. Since I redid my charging system a little, I completely removed the excess wires. I wouldn't worry about the stereo wires, there's plenty of places to tap in, and Vintage Air has it own harness with one power wire, a few ground wires, and one vacuum hose, pretty simple. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"ACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Rodney. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Hey Herb, When you did you wiring with M&H, did you order the factory stereo and speaker harness or just skip that since you're not going to use a factory stereo? Also, what custom wiring did you have them do for you (HEI, internal regulator, etc.) I'm seriously thinking about redoing my wiring, but I'm not sure what to do about the wiring for my stereo and the wiring for my Vintage Air. I'm also wondering how much custom mods add up to. Thanks for any input from experience. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question I bought a forward lamp harness and an engine harness from M&H. Both were custom made to accommodate HEI and internal regulator. I haven't had a chance to try them out yet. Still running the car w/ no harnesses in front. Hopefully it won’t be that way for much longer. John Nasta -Original Message- Hey Herb, When you did you wiring with M&H, did you order the factory stereo and speaker harness or just skip that since you're not going to use a factory stereo? Also, what custom wiring did you have them do for you (HEI, internal regulator, etc.) I'm seriously thinking about redoing my wiring, but I'm not sure what to do about the wiring for my stereo and the wiring for my Vintage Air. I'm also wondering how much custom mods add up to. Thanks for any input from experience. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Stereo question Hey Herb, When you did you wiring with M&H, did you order the factory stereo and speaker harness or just skip that since you're not going to use a factory stereo? Also, what custom wiring did you have them do for you (HEI, internal regulator, etc.) I'm seriously thinking about redoing my wiring, but I'm not sure what to do about the wiring for my stereo and the wiring for my Vintage Air. I'm also wondering how much custom mods add up to. Thanks for any input from experience. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ