RE: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO!!!!
If the tranny has set up for awhile, especially a TH350, the nose shaft seal may be leaking. Its sometimes really hard to figure out where they are leaking from. The air stream blows the fluid towards the back making you think its the pan seal. Wow, your backup lights work? Can't comment because mine don't work and I don't have a clue where the switch is. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:11 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO Well, for the first time since purchase, I finally drove my El Camino today. Granted, it was just a couple of laps around my friend Jack's back yard, but it was a great feeling to see the thing move under it's own power for the first time. It goes, it stops, it even turns! There are a couple of gremlins, that maybe you all can help out with: I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. What the F does it take to make one of these puppies not leak? The backup lights come on when the shifter is between park & reverse. They are off in either of those positions. Is there any adjustment for this? Thanks, John Nasta
RE: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO!!!!
John, if you have a leak and can't seem to find where it's coming from, there's a chance it could just be blow by from the vent on top of the trans. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:56 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO Thanks Bill. Dye-checking is a good way to go. I'll look into that. I got the transmission from a running 1970 Chevelle that a friend made an SS clone from, and wanted a TH400 in place of the TH350 that I now have. It is quite possible that it needs some re-sealing. John Nasta -Original Message- That's a pretty long way for the drip to travel, since the speedo gear is in the tailshaft housing. My first thought is that it could be the torque converter seal on the trans leaking down the bellhousing on to the pan mounting flange. If you know anyone in your area who could dye check it for you, that would be the best way to find it. Having the cable off or attached will have nothing to do with a leak--the cable doesn't have a seal or gasket. BL
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Check your shifter seal. Mine "sweats" ever so slightly and it runs down to the lip of the pan. A couple days after I clean everything it looks like the pan gasket is leaking again. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:11 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO Well, for the first time since purchase, I finally drove my El Camino today. Granted, it was just a couple of laps around my friend Jack's back yard, but it was a great feeling to see the thing move under it's own power for the first time. It goes, it stops, it even turns! There are a couple of gremlins, that maybe you all can help out with: I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. What the F does it take to make one of these puppies not leak? The backup lights come on when the shifter is between park & reverse. They are off in either of those positions. Is there any adjustment for this? Thanks, John Nasta
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In a message dated 11/2/2003 10:46:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a pretty long way for the drip to travel, since the speedo gear is in the tailshaft housing. My first thought is that it could be the torque converter seal on the trans leaking down the bellhousing on to the pan mounting flange. If you know anyone in your area who could dye check it for you, that would be the best way to find it. Having the cable off or attached will have nothing to do with a leak--the cable doesn't have a seal or gasket.BL My TH400 leaks after sitting for 3 days. I have no clue as to where it is coming from. It's not the pan, it's not the vacuum module, it's not the speedo cable housing, which by the way does have an O-ring sealing the gear itself inside the gear housing. I had to replace one before. I have come to believe that trannys either leak or they don't. LIke what was said earlier. The best way to stop it is to put a manual tranny in it :-). Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO!!!!
Thanks Bill. Dye-checking is a good way to go. I'll look into that. I got the transmission from a running 1970 Chevelle that a friend made an SS clone from, and wanted a TH400 in place of the TH350 that I now have. It is quite possible that it needs some re-sealing. John Nasta -Original Message- That's a pretty long way for the drip to travel, since the speedo gear is in the tailshaft housing. My first thought is that it could be the torque converter seal on the trans leaking down the bellhousing on to the pan mounting flange. If you know anyone in your area who could dye check it for you, that would be the best way to find it. Having the cable off or attached will have nothing to do with a leak--the cable doesn't have a seal or gasket. BL
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At 09:18 PM 11/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: Thanks Bill, After Tom's post, I am not convinced that it is actually coming from the pan gasket. Before fooling with that again, I am going to check the O-rings he mentioned, one of which is for the speedo gear. Right now I don't even have a speedo cable hooked up. Could it be coming from there? Thanks, John Nasta That's a pretty long way for the drip to travel, since the speedo gear is in the tailshaft housing. My first thought is that it could be the torque converter seal on the trans leaking down the bellhousing on to the pan mounting flange. If you know anyone in your area who could dye check it for you, that would be the best way to find it. Having the cable off or attached will have nothing to do with a leak--the cable doesn't have a seal or gasket. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO!!!!
Thanks Bill, After Tom's post, I am not convinced that it is actually coming from the pan gasket. Before fooling with that again, I am going to check the O-rings he mentioned, one of which is for the speedo gear. Right now I don't even have a speedo cable hooked up. Could it be coming from there? Thanks, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO At 08:10 PM 11/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Well, for the first time since purchase, I finally drove my El Camino today. >Granted, it was just a couple of laps around my friend Jack's back yard, but >it was a great feeling to see the thing move under it's own power for the >first time. > >It goes, it stops, it even turns! Way to go!! >I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp >RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. I've had the best luck with the NAPA brand gaskets, the ones that are NOT cork. Don't use any RTV, but you could use a little weatherstrip adhesive to hold the gasket to the pan if you want. Also, be sure that the bolt holes in the pan aren't dimpled, if they are, use a a small hammer to tap them back flat again, backing the flange up with a piece of steel under the hole. Don't over torque the pan bolts, put some blue Loctite 242 on them, and snug them up but don't crush the gasket. BL
Re: [Chevelle-list] WOO HOO!!!!
At 08:10 PM 11/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: Well, for the first time since purchase, I finally drove my El Camino today. Granted, it was just a couple of laps around my friend Jack's back yard, but it was a great feeling to see the thing move under it's own power for the first time. It goes, it stops, it even turns! Way to go!! I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. I've had the best luck with the NAPA brand gaskets, the ones that are NOT cork. Don't use any RTV, but you could use a little weatherstrip adhesive to hold the gasket to the pan if you want. Also, be sure that the bolt holes in the pan aren't dimpled, if they are, use a a small hammer to tap them back flat again, backing the flange up with a piece of steel under the hole. Don't over torque the pan bolts, put some blue Loctite 242 on them, and snug them up but don't crush the gasket. BL
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Thanks Tom, I have a new neutral safety switch on order, so I'll look for those tables when I replace it. Right now I have no speedo cable hooked up. The drip appears to be coming from the RF corner of the (stock) pan, but that could just be where gravity is leading it to before it finally drops. It is a very slow leak. Probably an ounce or two per week when sitting, but it seemed to get worse after I ran it for a while and then drove it, then put it back in the garage. I'll definitely check into those O-rings. BTW, I looked at the photo you sent and I still didn’t figure out how to attach the rear license plate lamp. I'll bring the picture with me next week, but I'm getting the feeling that the holes are not pre-drilled on the reproduction bumper. There is just nothing there to attach the lamp to. I sure wish Ron had returned my original bumper so that I could see what's going on. John Nasta -Original Message- Congrats John. There is still enough time to get it ready for the MCC show in June :-). About the reverse lights. If the car is column shift, the neutral safety switch and the revers light switch are one in the same. It is located on the bottom of the column. There is a tab that sits on another tab in the steering column. That is adjustable left to right. I just had to adjust one on a 66 I am working on. As for the tranny, if you have a chrome pan on it, ditch it and put a stock aluminum one in it with a fel pro gasket. Second on that, have you checked all the O-ring seals on the outside of the tranny? The speedo cable gear, vacuum module, and the driveshaft seal. Other things that can leak on it are the tailshaft seal and front pump seal. Good luck! Tom
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>I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp >RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. >What the F does it take to make one of these puppies not leak? Don't use any RTV. Just a good quality cork gasket, install it dry, and don't over-torque. The root of the problem is that darned self-reproducing auto trans fluid. Not only will it self-reproduce, it will seek out even the tiniest of cracks to seep thru for eternity. The only solution is to switch to a manual. ;- Congrats on the drive! John Nasta wrote: > Well, for the first time since purchase, I finally drove my El Camino today. > Granted, it was just a couple of laps around my friend Jack's back yard, but > it was a great feeling to see the thing move under it's own power for the > first time. > > It goes, it stops, it even turns! > > There are a couple of gremlins, that maybe you all can help out with: > > I have replaced the tranny gasket twice and it still leaks. I used hi-temp > RTV only on the pan side the first time, and on both sides the second time. > What the F does it take to make one of these puppies not leak? > > The backup lights come on when the shifter is between park & reverse. They > are off in either of those positions. Is there any adjustment for this? > > Thanks, > John Nasta -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
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Congrats John. There is still enough time to get it ready for the MCC show in June :-). About the reverse lights. If the car is column shift, the neutral safety switch and the revers light switch are one in the same. It is located on the bottom of the column. There is a tab that sits on another tab in the steering column. That is adjustable left to right. I just had to adjust one on a 66 I am working on. As for the tranny, if you have a chrome pan on it, ditch it and put a stock aluminum one in it with a fel pro gasket. Second on that, have you checked all the O-ring seals on the outside of the tranny? The speedo cable gear, vacuum module, and the driveshaft seal. Other things that can leak on it are the tailshaft seal and front pump seal. Good luck! Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs!
can relate big time , enjoy every second it is running good - Original Message - From: "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 12:24 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs! > Just had to share with someone. I finally got my El Camino back on the road > yesterday. I pulled a 350 out of my uncle's basement (in pieces) several > months ago, and about $350-$400 later, I have running engine for my car! > The last time I had both cars running (and my entire garage available!) was > back in August '99, two months after I moved in here. What a great feeling, > as I'm sure others here can relate. > > -Dave, > '70 Chevelle (12.90 @ 105) > '72 El Camino > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dave Happy crusing. Today I start to install my rebulit 396 in my 69 SS. I have my fingers crossed that everything go well. Craig - Original Message - From: "richard a schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs! > Terrific news. Another classic resurrected.So whats next? > rick > On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 03:24:41 -0400 "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Just had to share with someone. I finally got my El Camino back on > > the road> yesterday. I pulled a 350 out of my uncle's basement (in > pieces) > > several> months ago, and about $350-$400 later, I have running engine > for my > > car! > > The last time I had both cars running (and my entire garage > > available!) was> back in August '99, two months after I moved in here. > What a great > > feeling,> as I'm sure others here can relate. > > > > -Dave, > > '70 Chevelle (12.90 @ 105) > > '72 El Camino > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Larry, I know what you're talking about but no such luck here. My mother's agent lets her do that. I'm lucky if I can get a hold of my guy after 3pm on a weekday. I'm stuck on my high-risk policy till September and then I can finally find better insurance. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs! Dave: you should check with your agent. Mine has a recorder and if I call and leave a message it is insured. I know I may be taking a risk but so far so good. Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dave: you should check with your agent. Mine has a recorder and if I call and leave a message it is insured. I know I may be taking a risk but so far so good. Larry (z)
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Terrific news. Another classic resurrected.So whats next? rick On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 03:24:41 -0400 "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just had to share with someone. I finally got my El Camino back on > the road> yesterday. I pulled a 350 out of my uncle's basement (in pieces) > several> months ago, and about $350-$400 later, I have running engine for my > car! > The last time I had both cars running (and my entire garage > available!) was> back in August '99, two months after I moved in here. What a great > feeling,> as I'm sure others here can relate. > > -Dave, > '70 Chevelle (12.90 @ 105) > '72 El Camino > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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NOOOooobody "Settles" for a Chevelle ;) "I guess I'll have to settle for the Chevelle until monday. Oh well.. :-)" -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs! Congratulations Dave! It's a great feeling ain't it!!! Don I finally got my El Camino back on the road Way to go Daveenjoy the ride! Kelly & Jana Hanna '78 El Camino Super Sport 350/350 '73 Chevy C-20 Cheyenne Super 350/400 www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, the only pisser was I forgot to call my insurance guy in time, so I'm stuck with no insurance on a nice weekend. I guess I'll have to settle for the Chevelle until monday. Oh well.. :-) -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] woo hoo, it runs! Congratulations Dave! It's a great feeling ain't it!!! Don I finally got my El Camino back on the road Way to go Daveenjoy the ride! Kelly & Jana Hanna '78 El Camino Super Sport 350/350 '73 Chevy C-20 Cheyenne Super 350/400 www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jon I too have my 70 pulling 12's in the 1/4 mile. Take a look at my webpage, all the engine specs are on there. Tom 70 Chevelle SS
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Congratulations Dave! It's a great feeling ain't it!!! Don I finally got my El Camino back on the roadWay to go Daveenjoy the ride! Kelly & Jana Hanna'78 El Camino Super Sport 350/350'73 Chevy C-20 Cheyenne Super 350/400www.hannawoodworks.com
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hey Was just wondering what you had done to the chevelle to get it to drop down into the 12s. I am probably going to buy a 307 chevelle for like 4 gs that is mint but needs to be assembled. So of course i am going to upgrade the motor so let me know Jon
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I finally got my El Camino back on the road Way to go Daveenjoy the ride! Kelly & Jana Hanna '78 El Camino Super Sport 350/350 '73 Chevy C-20 Cheyenne Super 350/400 www.hannawoodworks.com
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Dave, A big Congrats on the engine build and install! What a perfect time with the nice summer weather underway. Dwaine
