Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
I have purchase 2 of their harness's and they worked well. They have a # to call if you have trouble, or is something is not OEM, or incorrect. I did that on 1 harness and they built me a NEW one, N.C. I would recommend their product and customer svc!! Cost was in the $90 area for engine, front light harness in the $130/150. Not worth my time to disassemble a 33 year old harness for repair and rewrap!!! Larry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Has anyone on here purchased a oem-style harness from MH? If so,how much do they get for theirs? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale
RE: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Dear Crazy Rusty, Is this the original wiring in the car? Judging from the "rats nest" you said you see under the dash, I am guessing that it is original. You had your car in the shop to be repaired after it was damaged? I am guessing again that you have a fair amount of money invested in this car? I am going to make one last guess and say that you actually like this car to be investing lots of money into it? "Crazy"the insulation that was barely adequate 35 years ago is now brittlein places andthat insulation canactually come off and what ifsay lots of electricity started flowing when it wasn't supposed to? Just how "crazy" would you get if your baby went up in flames? Should you be checking bulbs you ask? If this is the original harness, you should be checking into the price of a new one! Just my opinion. Dr. Electron -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Crazy RustySent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? I am hoping that someone will have a little more insight into this issue since I am totally clueless I got my car back from the shop not to long ago and was testing everything out. I found a few days ago that none of my instrument lights are coming on when I have my running lights or head lights on. Neither the instrument gauges nor the floor shifter light up like normal. I was hit pretty hard in the left rear so I thought maybe some connections were loose but I havent been able to find anything yet. The fuse is good and the wiring harness connection through the firewall seems ok. All other interior lights (the headlamp and map lights) work fine Its hard to see in the dash since its such a rats nest but does anyone have any suggestions on what it could be? I know when I have a loose brake light bulb, both of my brake lights go out Is this the sort of the same thing? Should I be checking bulbs? Thanks!! CR
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
A New dash Harness my be the answer... But B-4 you go that route.. Let's check a few things frist. You say ALL you dash lamps are none funtional... ( the dash and shifter lamps are the SAME circuit) if the fuse is good and you have voltage athe fuse block, the next place to look is the Light Switch . The instrument lamps get voltage in park and headlamp position, and also run through the internal variable-resister. It you have voltage at switch input and switched on... out-put ( will vary) voltage. Then the time has come to dive into your "RAT's NEST" it my be a good time to do a little springcleaning...while your at it... You did not say what year car you have.. but the tehnique to wring out a circuit is straight forward and verifiable either starting from the source ( my preferred methoud) or the load(lamp in your case) end. GL.. Wayne ACES # 1556 TCG # 186 - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? I am hoping that someone will have a little more insight into this issue since I am totally clueless I got my car back from the shop not to long ago and was testing everything out. I found a few days ago that none of my instrument lights are coming on when I have my running lights or head lights on. Neither the instrument gauges nor the floor shifter light up like normal. I was hit pretty hard in the left rear so I thought maybe some connections were loose but I havent been able to find anything yet. The fuse is good and the wiring harness connection through the firewall seems ok. All other interior lights (the headlamp and map lights) work fine Its hard to see in the dash since its such a rats nest but does anyone have any suggestions on what it could be? I know when I have a loose brake light bulb, both of my brake lights go out Is this the sort of the same thing? Should I be checking bulbs? Thanks!! CR
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
As for your LOOOSE brake lamps the tab-tang on your lamp holder, can be bent outward with a needle nose pliers to help secure it in the socket... Wayne ACES # 1556 TCG # 186 ? I am hoping that someone will have a little more insight into this issue since I am totally clueless I got my car back from the shop not to long ago and was testing everything out. I found a few days ago that none of my instrument lights are coming on when I have my running lights or head lights on. Neither the instrument gauges nor the floor shifter light up like normal. I was hit pretty hard in the left rear so I thought maybe some connections were loose but I havent been able to find anything yet. The fuse is good and the wiring harness connection through the firewall seems ok. All other interior lights (the headlamp and map lights) work fine Its hard to see in the dash since its such a rats nest but does anyone have any suggestions on what it could be? I know when I have a loose brake light bulb, both of my brake lights go out Is this the sort of the same thing? Should I be checking bulbs? Thanks!! CR
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Has anyone on here purchased a oem-style harness from MH? If so,how much do they get for theirs? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Sound like you headlight switch is acting up but a hard impact may have busted your dash bulbs, thirty year bulb you never know, make sure your grounding straps are still there, hope this helps. James
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
James,do you have access to the oem-style connections? I think I can get the wire needed,at work. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hey Clint i can restore your original 69 wire harness, James
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no Clint i don't use them i reuse your old one, i just replace the broken or chop up wires and just go though them one at a time, i have rebuilt 3 69 chevelle wire harness from front to rear, it a lot easier and a lot cheaper then buying a whole new harness, james
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? on 3/19/03 11:06 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone on here purchased a oem-style harness from MH? If so,how much do they get for theirs? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm '99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale Clint, Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best. Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too. Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like factory. If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct. I know Year One carries them... Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Yes Clint. I have used there harness in the original configuration and they have built a modifed one . with Hei and one wire alt mods.. Cost ?? can't remember..but ...there good people.. Wayne ACES #1556 TCG # 186 - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Has anyone on here purchased a oem-style harness from MH? If so,how much do they get for theirs? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Thanks for the input,Chuck. I've heard a lot of good things about MH products and that is the route I will eventually go. How many wiring harnesses are in our cars? Is there a underhood harness,dash harness,and rear lighting harness? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: Chuck Hanson Clint,Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best. Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too. Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like "factory." If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct. I know Year One carries them...Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
I might have to go this route in the short term,James. Later,I want to completely replace all the old harnesses and its 34 year old components. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] no Clint i don't use them i reuse your old one, i just replace the broken or chop up wires and just go though them one at a time, i have rebuilt 3 69 chevelle wire harness from front to rear, it a lot easier and a lot cheaper then buying a whole new harness, james
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Clint.. there are 4.. there can be more i.e console harness. .. AC harness the.. basic 4 are... Forward Lamp harness engine harness... Dash 7 instrument harness and rear body lamp harness MH and Factory Fit ..will sell you the connectors and clips and mys. parts to repair you old harness... Wayne ACES #1556 TCG #186 - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Thanks for the input,Chuck. I've heard a lot of good things about MH products and that is the route I will eventually go. How many wiring harnesses are in our cars? Is there a underhood harness,dash harness,and rear lighting harness? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: Chuck Hanson Clint,Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best. Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too. Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like "factory." If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct. I know Year One carries them...Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Yep! Plus, depending on how your Chevelle is optioned out you may also have additional harnesses for the A/C, an AM-FM/tape/stereo, rear defogger, power windows, locks, etc. No matter, though, Clint, they make repros for all those applications. And, as stated earlier, they'll custom-manufacture a harness for almost anything you want to add to the electrical system. Just ask... Chuck on 3/19/03 1:44 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the input,Chuck. I've heard a lot of good things about MH products and that is the route I will eventually go. How many wiring harnesses are in our cars? Is there a underhood harness,dash harness,and rear lighting harness? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm '99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: Chuck Hanson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint, Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best. Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too. Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like factory. If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct. I know Year One carries them... Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Thanks,Wayne. Guess I need to call around and see what my needs are going to cost. This car is going to be done right. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: Wayne Clint.. there are 4.. there can be more i.e console harness. .. AC harness the.. basic 4 are... Forward Lamp harness engine harness... Dash 7 instrument harness and rear body lamp harness MH and Factory Fit ..will sell you the connectors and clips and mys. parts to repair you old harness... Wayne ACES #1556 TCG #186 - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? Thanks for the input,Chuck. I've heard a lot of good things about MH products and that is the route I will eventually go. How many wiring harnesses are in our cars? Is there a underhood harness,dash harness,and rear lighting harness? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobodyhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale - Original Message - From: Chuck Hanson Clint,Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best. Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too. Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like "factory." If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct. I know Year One carries them...Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?
I can pretty much gauruntee you have a bad ground somewhere. I have this problem in my 70 and I know that it is the circuit board on the back of the dash. It happens when a hot wire touches metal. I had the same problem in my 69 and it ended up being the headlight switch was shot. I put a new one in and it worked great. I seriously doubt you need a new dash harness. They don't really go bad unless you have a meltdown of some sort. Both of my cars have the original harnesses in them and they work great for being 34/35 years old. Try the simplest things first before diving into harness replacement. Hope this helps. Tom
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Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I am going to do some more troubleshooting this weekend based on those suggestions to see whats up. I know my headlight switch needs to be replaced for a fact so that could play into it. Everything in the car is original with the exception of the gauges so it really is a total mess. Just hooking up my power antenna I found 5 different wires that were about 5 feet long and didnt actually go anywhere Plus I found a CB radio antenna kind of strange. I put the rally gauges in it last year and took out the idiot lights. For that fact alone I will be getting a new wiring harness fairly soon because I just dont trust my own handy work (even though the gauges work). Crazy Rusty 1969 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe with a Rats Nest No Dr. Electron, I absolutely hate the car... thats why I asked the question, to see if it will go up in flames. But I really do appreciate your observations. -Original Message- From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? I can pretty much gauruntee you have a bad ground somewhere. I have this problem in my 70 and I know that it is the circuit board on the back of the dash. It happens when a hot wire touches metal. I had the same problem in my 69 and it ended up being the headlight switch was shot. I put a new one in and it worked great. I seriously doubt you need a new dash harness. They don't really go bad unless you have a meltdown of some sort. Both of my cars have the original harnesses in them and they work great for being 34/35 years old. Try the simplest things first before diving into harness replacement. Hope this helps. Tom
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I am actually ordering a new lamp holder from ol Nasta over there to replace the bad one. The current one is taped together J Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wayne Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions? As for your LOOOSE brake lamps the tab-tang on your lamp holder, can be bent outward with a needle nose pliers to help secure it in the socket... Wayne ACES # 1556 TCG # 186 ? I am hoping that someone will have a little more insight into this issue since I am totally clueless I got my car back from the shop not to long ago and was testing everything out. I found a few days ago that none of my instrument lights are coming on when I have my running lights or head lights on. Neither the instrument gauges nor the floor shifter light up like normal. I was hit pretty hard in the left rear so I thought maybe some connections were loose but I havent been able to find anything yet. The fuse is good and the wiring harness connection through the firewall seems ok. All other interior lights (the headlamp and map lights) work fine Its hard to see in the dash since its such a rats nest but does anyone have any suggestions on what it could be? I know when I have a loose brake light bulb, both of my brake lights go out Is this the sort of the same thing? Should I be checking bulbs? Thanks!! CR
