RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
What happened? The cheap way out usually not worth the outcome? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: I went that way and was not happy. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Actually, a daily driver is a good place for a high-perf ignition. There’s really no downside, other than the initial cost, as opposed to a cam, where a ‘better’ performance cam is offset by rougher idle, worse mileage, etc. I did two upgrades on the ignition in my Chevelle. The first time was just a basic tune-up – cap, rotor, plugs, wires, and coil. I don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I did start getting better mileage (it took me less gas to get to the drag strip!). A year later, I added an MSD 6AL and I noticed it would start and run better when cold. An MSD box might be a little more than necessary for a daily driver, but I’m a believer in bigger, better spark since re-doing my stuff. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits If one of the upgrade kits don’t work, I may change out my HEI distributor to one of these. I just wanted to get a little better ignition, but don’t think I need to go to the full blown high perf. ignition in my daily driver. Time will tell though. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: I must be either half asleep or brain dead. This is the distributor I'm talking about. Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run, PN 8360 The Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run Distributor is exactly what it sounds like. Install it, connect three wires and you're ready to roll. This distributor is much like the HEI, except it does not have an internal coil. If the bulk of an HEI won't fit in your engine and you want a simple and clean ignition system, this is the distributor for you. Built down inside the billet aluminum housing there is a powerful inductive ignition module. This module is responsible for sending plenty of spark energy to the coil no matter what rpm you're at. The distributor relies on MSD's race proven magnetic pickup for accurate trigger signals. Just above the pickup there is an easy-to-adjust mechanical advance. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can custom tailor an advance curve to match your application. Also, a vacuum advance canister supplies great cruising economy! Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run PN 8360 CARB Approved, D-40-22 Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
The stock Chevy HEI works pretty well on a street engine. Just use good wires and lighter springs to match your engine/trans/gear combo. The crane adjustable vac canister and spring kit is a good low cost modification to help fine tune it. MSD stuff is good for racing but not really needed on street engine. That money can be put to better use in another area in my opinion - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits I used the HEI that was in the motor. I then went to a MSD coil/module/cap / wires.not long after I did all that it wouldn't start.There was no spark. Made me mad enough I went out and bought the ready to run MSD unit. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: Message I think they are just the current trend. Mallory was the hot setup until Accel came along, now it's MSD. I have a Mallory Unilite in my 67 Elky (327) and ran an Accel dual-point in my 67 Chevelle for about 13 years (plus every Chevelle I've ever had since 1967) before switching over to an MSD for two reasons, I needed a late model computer ignition for the fuel injection and Chuck made me an offer I couldn't refuse . Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian ZackSent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:28 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Would you say that the MSD stuff is probably a better quality than the pertronix and proform? That would be my guess. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: this is the distributor i put in my car. i bought this one because the head was smaller than the HEI type. http://www.msdignition.com/np2002/np2002pd2.htm Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: Message Don't really remember when I put it in the Elky but at least July of last year (had to check my web site for the date - d'oh!). I suppose if anything does go wrong with it, there's still the old reliable Accel dual point from the GR8PMKN days before fuel injection. If any ignition problems to occur before long, it'll be the first thing checked - thanks for the heads up. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:20 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kitsDale: Have you had any trouble with the unilite? I ran one for years (replaced one module). last week I was helping a friend find a distributor for his 68 f**d pickup. My buddy at the local parts house said stay away from unilite as its almost for certain within a year you will have to replace the module. Since this was in just a daily driver my friend did not want to spend $350.00 on a MSD unit. my first MSD unit cost me over $300.00 when it failed and blew out a brand new exhaust system. Why I bought another MSD unit is beyond me. I will say I have never been a fan of stock HEI units and have had my share of problems with them. We end up buying a rebuilt distributor and installing a pertronix unit in. the total cost was just over 120.00. So I guess there are many ways one can go. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Brian: I went that way and was not happy. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
If one of the upgrade kits don’t work, I may change out my HEI distributor to one of these. I just wanted to get a little better ignition, but don’t think I need to go to the full blown high perf. ignition in my daily driver. Time will tell though. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: I must be either half asleep or brain dead. This is the distributor I'm talking about. Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run, PN 8360 The Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run Distributor is exactly what it sounds like. Install it, connect three wires and you're ready to roll. This distributor is much like the HEI, except it does not have an internal coil. If the bulk of an HEI won't fit in your engine and you want a simple and clean ignition system, this is the distributor for you. Built down inside the billet aluminum housing there is a powerful inductive ignition module. This module is responsible for sending plenty of spark energy to the coil no matter what rpm you're at. The distributor relies on MSD's race proven magnetic pickup for accurate trigger signals. Just above the pickup there is an easy-to-adjust mechanical advance. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can custom tailor an advance curve to match your application. Also, a vacuum advance canister supplies great cruising economy! Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run PN 8360 CARB Approved, D-40-22 Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Brian: I must be either half asleep or brain dead. This is the distributor I'm talking about. Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run, PN 8360 The Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run Distributor is exactly what it sounds like. Install it, connect three wires and you're ready to roll. This distributor is much like the HEI, except it does not have an internal coil. If the bulk of an HEI won't fit in your engine and you want a simple and clean ignition system, this is the distributor for you. Built down inside the billet aluminum housing there is a powerful inductive ignition module. This module is responsible for sending plenty of spark energy to the coil no matter what rpm you're at. The distributor relies on MSD's race proven magnetic pickup for accurate trigger signals. Just above the pickup there is an easy-to-adjust mechanical advance. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can custom tailor an advance curve to match your application. Also, a vacuum advance canister supplies great cruising economy! Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run PN 8360 CARB Approved, D-40-22 Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Would you say that the MSD stuff is probably a better quality than the pertronix and proform? That would be my guess. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: this is the distributor i put in my car. i bought this one because the head was smaller than the HEI type. http://www.msdignition.com/np2002/np2002pd2.htm Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: HEI tune-up kits Anyone else use any of these kits? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits I put an Accel "Billetproof" electronic distributor in my chevelle small block over a year ago & haven't had any problems with it. ($192 plus coil at Jeg's ) I just installed a Mallory HEI distributor in a friend's small block chevelle ($159 at Summit with coil, cap, etc) I haven't started the engine yet so I can't advise on performance but it is a bolt in replacement & on initial inspection seems to be high quality. Don Looking to upgrade my HEI distributor and was looking at summit and jegs. All of the kits I was looking at have the cap, rotor, module, coil, adjustable vacuum advance, advance weights & springs, and bushings. There seems to be a bit of difference in prices. Proform-79.99 MSD-137.99 Pertronix-119.99 Have any of you had any experience with any of these? Proform good or bad? I was thinking on staying away from Accel being that my current Accel cap and rotor (stock module and coil) which have only been on there 1 year, are all worn out and carboned up and carbon tracking. I don’t know if it is just because of the rest of the ignition needs better quality parts added or not. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: Message
the
Unitlite is a good distributor. I had one in my fist '66, as well as a
conversion kit for the points in my old GMC. Never had a problem with
either.
RonMy '66 http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/index.htmTeam Chevelle
#1668ACES #5205
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dale
McIntoshSent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:15 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up
kits
I
think they are just the current trend. Mallory was the hot setup until
Accel came along, now it's MSD. I have a Mallory Unilite in my 67 Elky
(327) and ran an Accel dual-point in my 67 Chevelle for about 13 years (plus
every Chevelle I've ever had since 1967) before switching over to an MSD for
two reasons, I needed a late model computer ignition for the fuel injection
and Chuck made me an offer I couldn't refuse .
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67
SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967
Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information
-Original Message-From:
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On Behalf Of Brian ZackSent: Thursday, August 07, 2003
10:28 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Would you say that
the MSD stuff is probably a better quality than the pertronix and proform?
That would be my guess.
Brian
Zack
'70
Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com
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Brian:
this is the distributor i put in my car. i bought this one because the
head was smaller than the HEI type.
http://www.msdignition.com/np2002/np2002pd2.htm
Larry
(Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: HEI tune-up kits Another distributor would be the next step if the tune-up kits don’t make a difference. Thanks. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits I put an Accel "Billetproof" electronic distributor in my chevelle small block over a year ago & haven't had any problems with it. ($192 plus coil at Jeg's ) I just installed a Mallory HEI distributor in a friend's small block chevelle ($159 at Summit with coil, cap, etc) I haven't started the engine yet so I can't advise on performance but it is a bolt in replacement & on initial inspection seems to be high quality. Don Looking to upgrade my HEI distributor and was looking at summit and jegs. All of the kits I was looking at have the cap, rotor, module, coil, adjustable vacuum advance, advance weights & springs, and bushings. There seems to be a bit of difference in prices. Proform-79.99 MSD-137.99 Pertronix-119.99 Have any of you had any experience with any of these? Proform good or bad? I was thinking on staying away from Accel being that my current Accel cap and rotor (stock module and coil) which have only been on there 1 year, are all worn out and carboned up and carbon tracking. I don’t know if it is just because of the rest of the ignition needs better quality parts added or not. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Dale: Have you had any trouble with the unilite? I ran one for years (replaced one module). last week I was helping a friend find a distributor for his 68 f**d pickup. My buddy at the local parts house said stay away from unilite as its almost for certain within a year you will have to replace the module. Since this was in just a daily driver my friend did not want to spend $350.00 on a MSD unit. my first MSD unit cost me over $300.00 when it failed and blew out a brand new exhaust system. Why I bought another MSD unit is beyond me. I will say I have never been a fan of stock HEI units and have had my share of problems with them. We end up buying a rebuilt distributor and installing a pertronix unit in. the total cost was just over 120.00. So I guess there are many ways one can go. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
I have a Pertronix in my '66 and am very happy with it. I tossed around the idea of upgrading my old HEI, but I thought for the money, I'd just get the entire unit. RonMy '66 http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/index.htmTeam Chevelle #1668ACES #5205 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian ZackSent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:28 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits If one of the upgrade kits don’t work, I may change out my HEI distributor to one of these. I just wanted to get a little better ignition, but don’t think I need to go to the full blown high perf. ignition in my daily driver. Time will tell though. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:43 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: I must be either half asleep or brain dead. This is the distributor I'm talking about. Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run, PN 8360 The Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run Distributor is exactly what it sounds like. Install it, connect three wires and you're ready to roll. This distributor is much like the HEI, except it does not have an internal coil. If the bulk of an HEI won't fit in your engine and you want a simple and clean ignition system, this is the distributor for you. Built down inside the billet aluminum housing there is a powerful inductive ignition module. This module is responsible for sending plenty of spark energy to the coil no matter what rpm you're at. The distributor relies on MSD's race proven magnetic pickup for accurate trigger signals. Just above the pickup there is an easy-to-adjust mechanical advance. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can custom tailor an advance curve to match your application. Also, a vacuum advance canister supplies great cruising economy! Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run PN 8360 CARB Approved, D-40-22 Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Brian: this is the distributor i put in my car. i bought this one because the head was smaller than the HEI type. http://www.msdignition.com/np2002/np2002pd2.htm Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
I used the HEI that was in the motor. I then went to a MSD coil/module/cap / wires.not long after I did all that it wouldn't start.There was no spark. Made me mad enough I went out and bought the ready to run MSD unit. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
I wonder if the upgrade to the stock HEI would (better coil, cap, rotor, module, adj. vac. advance, and weights and springs) would be comparable to the billet distributor or if it would still be inferior. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: Dave Studly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Actually, a daily driver is a good place for a high-perf ignition. There’s really no downside, other than the initial cost, as opposed to a cam, where a ‘better’ performance cam is offset by rougher idle, worse mileage, etc. I did two upgrades on the ignition in my Chevelle. The first time was just a basic tune-up – cap, rotor, plugs, wires, and coil. I don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I did start getting better mileage (it took me less gas to get to the drag strip!). A year later, I added an MSD 6AL and I noticed it would start and run better when cold. An MSD box might be a little more than necessary for a daily driver, but I’m a believer in bigger, better spark since re-doing my stuff. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits If one of the upgrade kits don’t work, I may change out my HEI distributor to one of these. I just wanted to get a little better ignition, but don’t think I need to go to the full blown high perf. ignition in my daily driver. Time will tell though. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits Brian: I must be either half asleep or brain dead. This is the distributor I'm talking about. Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run, PN 8360 The Pro-Billet Ready-to-Run Distributor is exactly what it sounds like. Install it, connect three wires and you're ready to roll. This distributor is much like the HEI, except it does not have an internal coil. If the bulk of an HEI won't fit in your engine and you want a simple and clean ignition system, this is the distributor for you. Built down inside the billet aluminum housing there is a powerful inductive ignition module. This module is responsible for sending plenty of spark energy to the coil no matter what rpm you're at. The distributor relies on MSD's race proven magnetic pickup for accurate trigger signals. Just above the pickup there is an easy-to-adjust mechanical advance. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can custom tailor an advance curve to match your application. Also, a vacuum advance canister supplies great cruising economy! Pro-Billet Ready-To-Run PN 8360 CARB Approved, D-40-22 Larry (Z)
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whoops this was for f**d and mo**ar. here is the right link. http://www.msdignition.com/1dist.htm Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] HEI tune-up kits
Title: HEI tune-up kits I put an Accel "Billetproof" electronic distributor in my chevelle small block over a year ago & haven't had any problems with it. ($192 plus coil at Jeg's ) I just installed a Mallory HEI distributor in a friend's small block chevelle ($159 at Summit with coil, cap, etc) I haven't started the engine yet so I can't advise on performance but it is a bolt in replacement & on initial inspection seems to be high quality. Don Looking to upgrade my HEI distributor and was looking at summit and jegs. All of the kits I was looking at have the cap, rotor, module, coil, adjustable vacuum advance, advance weights & springs, and bushings. There seems to be a bit of difference in prices. Proform-79.99 MSD-137.99 Pertronix-119.99 Have any of you had any experience with any of these? Proform good or bad? I was thinking on staying away from Accel being that my current Accel cap and rotor (stock module and coil) which have only been on there 1 year, are all worn out and carboned up and carbon tracking. I dont know if it is just because of the rest of the ignition needs better quality parts added or not. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com
