Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra v2.1 has been Released

2006-07-03 Thread Sylvain Jousse
Salut Jud,

 As many of you are aware a new Cinelerra released is now available.
You mean the sources. Let us know whent some one makes the packages
(Mandriva, Ubuntu).
And thank you guys for the work you make! 

Sylvain.

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Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker

2006-07-03 Thread Joe Friedrichsen

Alec Robertson wrote:

Hi Joe,

After adding a second video track and replacing the flickering titles 
with new ones, the problem still persists. 


I've noticed something similar in the past... in my case it was due to 
extra keyframes along the plugin. Have you enabled View - Plugin 
Keyframes to check?


Hi Alec, thanks for the suggestion. I've been burned by that before, 
especially with camera motion. Unfortunately, that is not what's 
happening this time. I turned on the Plugin Keyframes and nothing 
changed in the view. My project is a simple slideshow with photographs 
and music. There are crossfade video effects and titles. Only a few 
titles flicker, and it's quite confusing!


Joe




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Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker

2006-07-03 Thread Leonardo
Me too,
i had a title fading, and at the same time a black background on
which a video was appearing (alpha increasing from 0 to 1).
My first impression was that the title was flickering, but I
think it was only a perceptual impression, looking at the single
frames the title intensity is changing correctly, as well as the
video.

Try to analize the frames of the transition with gimp or another
graphic program.
You can get the frames as jpeg files by playing the video with:
mplayer -vo jpeg yourvideo.avi
(not completely sure of the syntax, in case man mplayer)

Ciao, Leo

--- Alec Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Joe,
 
  After adding a second video track and replacing the
 flickering titles 
  with new ones, the problem still persists. 
 
 I've noticed something similar in the past... in my case it
 was due to 
 extra keyframes along the plugin. Have you enabled View -
 Plugin 
 Keyframes to check?
 
 Alec
 
 
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Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker

2006-07-03 Thread Joe Friedrichsen

Leonardo wrote:

Me too,
i had a title fading, and at the same time a black background on
which a video was appearing (alpha increasing from 0 to 1).
My first impression was that the title was flickering, but I
think it was only a perceptual impression, looking at the single
frames the title intensity is changing correctly, as well as the
video.

Try to analize the frames of the transition with gimp or another
graphic program.
You can get the frames as jpeg files by playing the video with:
mplayer -vo jpeg yourvideo.avi
(not completely sure of the syntax, in case man mplayer)


I've noticed that in some videos I've made as well - the background 
appears to change the way the title fades in. This is still different. 
In the sample file (http://www.f-forge.com/?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR), the 
flicker is quite obvious - it's not coming from a contrast with the 
background. Rather, the title slowly and smoothly fades out until the 
final frame of fading out, at which point that single last frame shows 
the title at full visibility.


I can observe this flicker in cinelerra's compositor during playback and 
during frame-by-frame advancement.


Joe




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Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker

2006-07-03 Thread Brendan Conoboy

Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
I've noticed that in some videos I've made as well - the background 
appears to change the way the title fades in. This is still different. 
In the sample file (http://www.f-forge.com/?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR), the 
flicker is quite obvious - it's not coming from a contrast with the 
background. Rather, the title slowly and smoothly fades out until the 
final frame of fading out, at which point that single last frame shows 
the title at full visibility.


I can observe this flicker in cinelerra's compositor during playback and 
during frame-by-frame advancement.


I haven't been following this thread closely, but it does sound like 
something I experienced and resolved.  The problem was that I was using 
fading keyframes and setting them by hand instead of using the slider. 
That is to say, I'd press the mouse when the cursor was over the part of 
the timeline I wanted to fade then drag it downward until my compositor 
window faded out.  Because of Cinelerra 2's quirky feature, for some of 
the last frames it would actually go past fading out and back into 
visible again.  The resolution for this was to use the slider instead of 
dragging on the timeline.


-Brendan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[CinCVS] [Bug 277] 2vuy doesn't work correctly (choppiness in both playback and rendered file)

2006-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-07-03 22:35 ---
Created an attachment (id=166)
 -- (http://bugs.cinelerra.org/attachment.cgi?id=166action=view)
Patch to fix multiple-frame-per-chunk issue




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[CinCVS] [Bug 277] 2vuy doesn't work correctly (choppiness in both playback and rendered file)

2006-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-07-03 22:34 ---
What it looks like is the 2vuy files generated by the proprietary Quicktime 
stuff have multiple frames per chunk, but the libquicktime used by Cinelerra 
only decodes the first frame from each chunk. It appears to be a bug in 
quicktime/trak.c in function quicktime_sample_range_size, where it is 
incorrectly returning zero instead of calculating the distance to the requested 
frame inside the chunk.

I'm attaching a patch for trak.c to the bug entry - see if this solves the 
problem for you.




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Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker

2006-07-03 Thread Joe Friedrichsen

Brendan Conoboy wrote:

Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
I've noticed that in some videos I've made as well - the background 
appears to change the way the title fades in. This is still 
different. In the sample file 
(http://www.f-forge.com/?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR), the flicker is 
quite obvious - it's not coming from a contrast with the background. 
Rather, the title slowly and smoothly fades out until the final frame 
of fading out, at which point that single last frame shows the title 
at full visibility.


I can observe this flicker in cinelerra's compositor during playback 
and during frame-by-frame advancement.


I haven't been following this thread closely, but it does sound like 
something I experienced and resolved.  The problem was that I was 
using fading keyframes and setting them by hand instead of using the 
slider. That is to say, I'd press the mouse when the cursor was over 
the part of the timeline I wanted to fade then drag it downward until 
my compositor window faded out.  Because of Cinelerra 2's quirky 
feature, for some of the last frames it would actually go past fading 
out and back into visible again.  The resolution for this was to use 
the slider instead of dragging on the timeline.


I was under the impression that the video fader was broken in Cinelerra 
2, glad to hear it's working! In trying just now, I've noticed that what 
I'll call the 'asset fader range' (or the limits for the minimum and 
maximum of the fade line) are a bit inconvenient. Audio generally fades 
in decibels below zero and video fades in integers between 0 and 100. 
Setting the limits to -40, 10 helps for fading audio, but doesn't help 
with video (which benefits from a 0-100 scale). What do Cinelerra users 
use for their limits to keep sensitivity?


Sorry for the OT wander. . . Unfortunately, my problem isn't a video 
track fader flicker, but the Title effect in Video Effects.


Joe




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