Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao! I knew the Cin community is great! :-) I've decided to try and follow two of them: 1. Cinelerra The best application is always the one I know. :-) Lorenzo, you had a clever idea. I try to hack a little with the compositor projector and view percentage. I think it can work. I plan to work with all tracks with video fade to 0. My editing will consist of raising the fade line to 100 for my chosen track for the chose time. 2. Blender To learn using it is a good investment. :-) I plan to use up to 12 camera inputs for the same scene, with 12 different framing of the same moment. I'll work in PAL resolution (720x576). Flavio, I accept your kind offer of a .blend file. :-) Does Blender have an easy fade control (like Cinelerra has)? Thanks Haldun for suggesting Lives. I played a little with it but I confess Blender is more seducing. Thanks Glen, I tried Openshot. It's very easy to split the view in 4 but the editing workflow is a little awkward for me, long time Cinelerra user. Your tip about the kdenlive audio synch feature is precious! Unfortunately without the possibility to easily fade in/out and without a mix track output I don't think I'll be able to use Kdenlive for this project. Ciao! Raffaella PS: I doubt the finished video will ever go on-line. The rights are acquired by the Padua University Press for 20 years.. :-( I'll be able to share it only privately. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Hi, Raffa, 1. Cinelerra The best application is always the one I know. :-) Agreed. I have invested my time on learning Blender VSE and it's worthy, a lot. There are many things there that are amazing and impressive. My base, however, is still Cinelerra - so the movie we're almost finishing with the open hardware camera is being edited in cinelerra, we shall use blender only for post production, with the composite nodes ( http://catarse.me/pt/florestavermelha - check the video here, but the campaign is almost over, so no publicity intended - it's because there is an text in english explaining everything down there.) 2. Blender To learn using it is a good investment. :-) I plan to use up to 12 camera inputs for the same scene, with 12 different framing of the same moment. I'll work in PAL resolution (720x576). Flavio, I accept your kind offer of a .blend file. :-) Ok, I'll set everything up for you and send you at your private mail, because the list here will block it. Please just tell me your FPS. In Blender, fading is done when clicking in the movie and setting keyframes - the keyframes are shown on a different window. I'll set the blend file so that all those windows are already shown for you and so that once you inserted a keyframe, the others for that piece of video are inserted automatically. Maybe you could use a hand with the first steps as to using the VSE, so in case you may want a skype quick talk, we can try setting a time - things will go way faster then... cheers! flavio
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao Raffaella, On 10/11/12 23:14, Raffaella Traniello wrote: Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. I wonder if you could use two sets of tracks, 1,2,3,4 for the actual editing and 5,6,7,8 as 'work tracks' with exactly yhe same videos as 1,2,3,4 But for 5,6,7,8 you would arrange X,Y and size to be off the safe areas but de-zoom the compositor so that they are also visible arranged in a 'quadrant' like. I guess this would require a one-time tweak of the positions, and eventually you would probably trash them for the final video... I'm not sure if I explained myself well enoguh. Idea being you place all the stuff you need on the compositor. Just an idea... Lorenzo. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Guys, I'm not sure if this message arrived because originally it contained a printscreen. Here it goes again, and sorry if it had already arrived. --- Hi, Raffa, just seeing your e-mail. Blender's VSE can do that easily. As many compositor windows as you want. I did a printscreen so that you can take a look at it - just set the channels related to your timeline accordingly. No need to use JACK. If you want, I can send a .blend file with the interface ready for your project, just send me the video resolution and the fps. cheers, flavio 2012/11/13 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com Ciao Raffaella, On 10/11/12 23:14, Raffaella Traniello wrote: Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. I wonder if you could use two sets of tracks, 1,2,3,4 for the actual editing and 5,6,7,8 as 'work tracks' with exactly yhe same videos as 1,2,3,4 But for 5,6,7,8 you would arrange X,Y and size to be off the safe areas but de-zoom the compositor so that they are also visible arranged in a 'quadrant' like. I guess this would require a one-time tweak of the positions, and eventually you would probably trash them for the final video... I'm not sure if I explained myself well enoguh. Idea being you place all the stuff you need on the compositor. Just an idea... Lorenzo. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella __**_ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/**mailman/skolelinux.no/**listinfo/cinelerrahttps://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra __**_ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/**mailman/skolelinux.no/**listinfo/cinelerrahttps://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao Raffaella I heard about this which seems the exactly what you want Realtime multi track vidéo editor avec des effects online But with an ergonomie somehaw diferent check out if you want. http://lives.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, (I didn't forget my grand'ma about RAID10 i must find out some time.:))) Ciao Haldun Le 10/11/2012 23:14, Raffaella Traniello a écrit : Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Yes I forgot you can have it with packages within Ubuntu by synaptics. Le 11/11/2012 11:05, Haldun ALTAN a écrit : Ciao Raffaella I heard about this which seems the exactly what you want Realtime multi track vidéo editor avec des effects online But with an ergonomie somehaw diferent check out if you want. http://lives.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, (I didn't forget my grand'ma about RAID10 i must find out some time.:))) Ciao Haldun Le 10/11/2012 23:14, Raffaella Traniello a écrit : Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Hi Raffa! I don't think JACK will be terribly useful here as it is only supported by LiVES which is lacking in compositing features, all the rest of the Linux NLE's don't support JACK (yet). Xjadeo is a video player that uses JACK and will sync with JACK transport, I don't know if you can run multiple instances of Xjadeo to a common output though... I'm a little lost with answers for the actual compositing, I do know that Openshot can quite easily route 4 distinct Video tracks to one screen by mapping them each display in 1/4 of the screen, but I think you are talking about something other than that. One thing I do know is that recent GIT builds of Kdenlive 0.9.3 have a great audio alignment feature for exactly the kind of thing you are talking about. I used it for a music video recently and you simply select one track to be the audio reference and you select the other tracks to align themselves with the 'reference' track and it works great and saves a huge amount of synchronizing headaches. I am pretty new to Kdenlive and I'm not terribly sure what the compositing options are with MLT (it's underlying framework.) For Ubuntu users there is a Kdenlive-SVN PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-svn Good luck with your project, I'd love to see it when it's finished! Take Care, -GLEN Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
