Switch Mgmt. [7:14621]

2001-08-02 Thread Uttam Majumdar

Hi All,

I was trying to monitor the performance of a 2900 series switch.
Following was the output for - sh controllers switch.

mosswitch#sh controllers switch
Switch registers:

  Device Type  : 0x00020173
  Congestion Threshold : 0x6E8B
  Peak Total Allocation: 0x0EAE
  Total Allocation : 0x
  Peak Total Bandwidth : 0x09D8
  Total Bandwidth  : 0x
  Total Bandwidth Limit: 0x0B55
  Lower Bandwidth Limit: 0x0B55
  Switch Mode  : 0x0020

Cisco site mentions I shld be able to get the performance info by using
this comand. I am unable to extrapolate anything out of this output.

Please help understanding, how the switch is performing. The response
has been fairly slow.

Thanks and rgds

Uttam

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Re: how to analyze traffic [7:14458]

2001-08-02 Thread Erick B.

How about using a packet analyzer and do trace on
segment where this traffic is? 

Ie: Sniffer/SnifferPro, Ethereal, tcpdump, etc.

--- Mohammed Saro  wrote:
 i have a problem of unexpected traffic on one of
 router interfaces and when
 the problem happens i can not analyze this traffic
 when i use ip accounting
 output-packets i can not recognize how is this
 happens i found on the
 interface of the international bandwidth packets
 sourced with internal ips
 how
 is that i really would like help to analyze this
 traffic and to understand
 how
 how does ip accounting work
 
 Mohammed Saro
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Re: 3660 IOS recovery -Extremely important [7:14616]

2001-08-02 Thread Uttam Majumdar

Hi,

Do this -

rommon 1 tftpdnld
rommon 2 set
rommon 3 IP_ADDRESS=A.B.C.D (IP address of the enet of router)
rommon 4 IP_SUBNET_MASK=255.255.255.0 (Or mask of the network)
rommon 5 DEFAULT_GATEWAY=192.10.10.20
rommon 6 TFTP_SERVER=192.10.10.20
rommon 7 TFTP_FILE=c3660-js-mz.120-7.XK2.bin..bin
rommon 8 tftpdnld

It shld be thru. Syntax is key

Uttam

ss ss wrote:

 Hi all!!
 In our 3660 cisco router IOS has got corrupted(FLASH IOS)  Iam not able to
 boot thro. ROM also (ROM BOOT not working).The only mode which is working
is
 ROMMON mode.When I try to load the IOS thro XMODEM I gt the following
 error(In ROMMON mode)

 rommon 1  xmodem c3660-js-mz.120-7.XK2.bin..bin
 Do not start the sending program yet...
  File size   Checksum   File name
8059392 bytes (0x7afa00)   0x7520c3660-js-mz.120-7.XK2.bin..bin

 WARNING: All existing data in flash will be lost!
 Invoke this application only for disaster recovery.
 Do you wish to continue? y/n  [n]:  y
 Ready to receive file c3660-js-mz.120-7.XK2.bin..bin ...
 BB0BB0
 Timeout waiting for data - aborting download...
 rommon 2  confreg 0x2101

 rommon 3  reset

 System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(6r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 C3660 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
 Main memory is configured to 64 bit mode with parity disabled

 loadprog: error - on read during ELF program load
 requested 10471860 (0x9fc9b4) bytes, got 8039940 (0x7aae04)
 boot: cannot load flash:

 System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(6r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 C3660 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
 Main memory is configured to 64 bit mode with parity disabled

 rommon 1  b
 loadprog: error - on read during ELF program load
 requested 10471860 (0x9fc9b4) bytes, got 8039940 (0x7aae04)
 boot: cannot load flash:

 So as u see in the above output I hv tried XModem  also ROMboot but
without
 any success.Also I tried loading the backup of the IOS for 3660 which i
 had,thro. TFTP server by giving the following command

  b c3660-js-mz.120-7.XK2.bin..bin:192.10.10.20

 where 192.10.10.20 is the address of the TFTP server but no use.

 If any one of u hv faced similar problem,Can u pl. mail the solution with
 detailed sequence of steps to solve it.

 Thanx  warm regards
 ss2001

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Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14629]

2001-08-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I thought somebody was going to talk about masking instabilities.  But then
that begs the question - in a typical enterprise network (therefore a small
one of 100 routes or less), if you are suffering from routing instabilities,
isn't your time better spent to try to figure out why your routes are so
unstable and then remedying it rather than engaging in summarization in
order to mask the instability.


But the summarization localizes the instability and speeds the time 
to find the links that are flapping.

If I cut myself, and the wound stops bleeding, I am still likely to 
put a dressing on it to keep it clean. A large percent of the time, 
if the wound was clean to begin with, it won't get infected whether I 
put the dressing on or not. There are certainly differences in local 
practice -- American medical personnel wipe an injection site with 
alcohol first, while Europeans generally don't -- and, for routine 
injections (i.e., not, say arterial or IV), there's no noticeable 
difference in infection rate.

Summarization is what the IETF calls best current practice, because 
experience shows that it tends to avoid problems.  One of the most 
important reasons is that it forces, if you will, infection controls 
onto your addressing plan. Hierarchical networks are much easier to 
expand if your network suddenly grows, which it may in a world of 
mergers and acquisitions.

I always wear my seat belt.

Oh...and as long as we're mentioning grails, I'm off to the IETF in 
London. Perhaps I should request that I be addressed as Arthur, King 
of the Britons, and that I am on a quest.


Like I said previously, I completely agree that summarization is indeed very
useful in large networks like NSP/ISP's or large enterprises (1000+ routes),
for many reasons (better lookup performance, masking truly becomes useful
because you can't be expected to fix all your flaky links in a huge network,
etc.).  But I would like to understand if summarization can be useful in a
typical enterprise network ( wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Performance gains are only a small part of the
  picture... what is more important is enforcing a
  proper hierarchical addressing scheme that conceals
  routing instabilities from the network as a whole, and
  lessens the amount of routing update traffic
  propagated across the entire network.

It's gotten to the point
   that Cisco-trained
   personnel treat summarization like the holy grail,
   and they go around trying
   to use summarization techniques wherever they can.

  A network always benefits from the consistent
  application of design goals.  Summarization scales
  well because of the architecture which flows from a
  properly addressed network.  I can't think of anyone
  outside of an SP network concerned with global routing
  table bloat that ever equates the benefits of
  summarization in terms of increased routing table
  lookup efficiency.  The benefit is that flapping
  routes and their attendant update traffic are confined
  to a small manageable area.  Not only does this
  preserve bw but it greatly aids in network management
  by narrowing the scope of the network that you need to
  troubleshoot.

  So, when I weigh
   the cons of suboptimal routing as well as the
   possibility of
   misconfiguration, I find it difficult to see why the
   typical enterprise
   would ever really want to do summarization, as the
   gains are miniscule at
   best.

  If the network architects can't properly summarize,
  there are bound to be bigger problems than what that
  particular misconfiguration will bring.  We are not
  talking rocket science here, it is simple binary math.

  Best regards,

  Geoff Zinderdine
  CCNP MCP2K CCA
   MTS Communications




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Re: Is CCIE written still necessary for CCNPs? [7:14518]

2001-08-02 Thread Robert Nelson-Cox


It has never been needed for CCNP

Bzzzt, Wrong answer.

Rob./


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I
  could not find anything on Cisco web site to support it.
 
  Can anybody let me know?
 
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Router Sim. for CCIE LAB [7:14627]

2001-08-02 Thread Ronnie Poon

Dear all,

Which router sim. is the best for CCIE LAB exercise? Basically, I will 
have a real equipment 6 months later. However, in this period. I would
like to have a router sim. to do the CCIE lab exercise.


Thanks
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Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14622]

2001-08-02 Thread Geoff Zinderdine

--- nrf  wrote:
 I thought somebody was going to talk about masking
 instabilities.  But then
 that begs the question - in a typical enterprise
 network (therefore a small
 one of 100 routes or less), if you are suffering
 from routing instabilities,
 isn't your time better spent to try to figure out
 why your routes are so
 unstable and then remedying it rather than engaging
 in summarization in
 order to mask the instability.

There is no question begged.  You make it sound like
summarization is being used as a method to deal with a
crisis.  It is most emphatically not that.  It is a
network design principle/technique that can (among
other things) reduce the impact of routing instability
and isolate it so that you can deal with it
effectively and quickly.  Routing instability can be
caused by hardware failure, not just configuration
problems.  No one goes around summarizing routes in
the middle of an outage.  Summarization is considered
while designing and implementing the topology you have
decided upon.

Sound network designs should make sense, not just
merely work because you can throw CPU/memory at them. 
Hierarchy simplifies understanding the network
topology and actually aids in the sensible deployment
of address space.

What you are advocating is merely sloppy thinking that
is excused only by its small scale: Close enough for
government work.  What happens if that enterprise
succeeds and grows into a multinational with its own
AS and countless branch offices.  Heaven help you if
you are the hapless engineer that has to renumber and
redesign that klugey network that was built solely on
expediency.

Geoff.

 Like I said previously, I completely agree that
 summarization is indeed very
 useful in large networks like NSP/ISP's or large
 enterprises (1000+ routes),
 for many reasons (better lookup performance, masking
 truly becomes useful
 because you can't be expected to fix all your flaky
 links in a huge network,
 etc.).  But I would like to understand if
 summarization can be useful in a
 typical enterprise network ( wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Performance gains are only a small part of the
  picture... what is more important is enforcing a
  proper hierarchical addressing scheme that
 conceals
  routing instabilities from the network as a whole,
 and
  lessens the amount of routing update traffic
  propagated across the entire network.
 
It's gotten to the point
   that Cisco-trained
   personnel treat summarization like the holy
 grail,
   and they go around trying
   to use summarization techniques wherever they
 can.
 
  A network always benefits from the consistent
  application of design goals.  Summarization scales
  well because of the architecture which flows from
 a
  properly addressed network.  I can't think of
 anyone
  outside of an SP network concerned with global
 routing
  table bloat that ever equates the benefits of
  summarization in terms of increased routing table
  lookup efficiency.  The benefit is that flapping
  routes and their attendant update traffic are
 confined
  to a small manageable area.  Not only does this
  preserve bw but it greatly aids in network
 management
  by narrowing the scope of the network that you
 need to
  troubleshoot.
 
  So, when I weigh
   the cons of suboptimal routing as well as the
   possibility of
   misconfiguration, I find it difficult to see why
 the
   typical enterprise
   would ever really want to do summarization, as
 the
   gains are miniscule at
   best.
 
  If the network architects can't properly
 summarize,
  there are bound to be bigger problems than what
 that
  particular misconfiguration will bring.  We are
 not
  talking rocket science here, it is simple binary
 math.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Geoff Zinderdine
  CCNP MCP2K CCA
  MTS Communications
 
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Just how important is route summarization in typical enterprise [7:14628]

2001-08-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree that route summarisation may not speed up route lookup much.  But
there's other far more valid reasons for doing it.
The network I work with is not ISP size in terms of routes, but it's pretty
big, with hundreds of geographically dispersed sites - without
summarisation, we'd have thousands of routes.  Here's some reasons why we
summarise... mostly they would apply to smaller networks as well.
If you summarise (sensibly), you can hide route flaps from a large part of
the network.  If an ethernet segment in Bourke falls over, the router in
Broome really shouldn't have to care less.  By summarising, you restrict
the number of routers that have to recalculate routes, so routers spend
less time thinking about how to route and more time forwarding packets
(hopefully).
If you summarise (sensibly), you can reduce the amount of route information
in your routing tables.  Forget routing lookup time - depending on your
routing protocol, this can substantially reduce the amount of data that has
to be transferred between routers (less overhead traffic), and reduce the
amount of calculations the router has to do.  Again - less time doing (and
sending) background stuff, more time to route real data.
If you summarise (sensibly), it's much easier to read the ip routing table
- fewer pages of info to wade through :-)

I tweaked the summarisation of our network several months ago.  Previously,
we had been having occasional problems that were usually being put down to
OSPF recalculations (mostly erroneously, IMO, but it was creaking
occasionally).  Since summarisation was beefed up, there have been no
problems (or maybe people just decided they couldn't point the finger at
OSPF any more :-)

JMcL

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Subject:  Just how important is route summarization in typical enterprise
  [7:14601]


Hey all.  I'm going to risk starting a flame war by asking the following:

I've been struck by just how much importance Cisco courseware places on
route summarization.  For example, every student who goes through
CCNP-level
courseware learns about all the various kinds of summarization - OSPF area
summarization, OSPF stubs, EIGRP summarization, etc. etc., and how it
reduces the size of the route table, thereby improving router performance
by
speeding route lookup.  It's gotten to the point that Cisco-trained
personnel treat summarization like the holy grail, and they go around
trying
to use summarization techniques wherever they can.

Yet, I seem to recall somebody wrote a book (I believe it was Berkowitz)
that basically stated that the performance gains associated with reducing
the route table via summarization is virtually nil in typical corporate
networks, because the real delays were caused simply by the serialization
time of sending packets over slow WAN links (T-1 and slower).  Plus, with
fast-switching and its cousins (optimum switching, MLS, etc.), route lookup
isn't done all that often , so there is little lookup delay anyway.And
besides, most corporate networks aren't very big - typically less than 100
route entries, so how much lookup delay could there be?   So, when I weigh
the cons of suboptimal routing as well as the possibility of
misconfiguration, I find it difficult to see why the typical enterprise
would ever really want to do summarization, as the gains are miniscule at
best.

Note, I know full well that ISP's/NSP's and very large enterprises (those
having on the order of thousands of routes) do indeed benefit substantially
from summarization.  Of this I have no doubt.  What I cannot see is why the
typical enterprise would really want to use summarization techniques.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?




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Multicast [7:14630]

2001-08-02 Thread Hawthorne, Mike MM

In the BCMSN are you required to map multicast IP addresses to multicast MAC
addresses and if so does anyone know a quick way of converting from binary
to hex.

Mike 



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Re: MPLS 641-910 [7:14521]

2001-08-02 Thread Mohamed El Komy

I'd like to know whether it's still a beta exam or not?
Are those 2 books only enough for preparation for exam?

Tim O'Brien  wrote in message
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 I would say that these 2 books would probably be a very good place to
 start...

 http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=168
 http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=111

 Tim


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 Subject: MPLS 641-910 [7:14521]


 Dear all,

 Any one preparing for it ...and want to share knowledge with me.
 please guide me where can i get the MPLS 641-910 material.

 Kindest Regards
 Muhammad Zahid




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Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14632]

2001-08-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hey all.  I'm going to risk starting a flame war by asking the following:


A bit more precision. You have to consider more than one kind of 
performance.  One is route lookup in the fast forwarding path, and 
the other is changing the routing table (possibly in the same 
processor that does forwarding, in a small network).

With modern algorithms such as Cisco's patented trie or the Patricia 
trie, route lookup times do not increase appreciably with the number 
of routes.  Memory increases, but lookup time much less so.

The increases in load come from changes to the routing table and 
consequent changes to the FIB.




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Re: how to analyze traffic [7:14458] OT [7:14633]

2001-08-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I have this strange image of a packet on a couch and someone who 
looks like Vint Cerf asking and zo. What was significant in your 
childhood?  Did your originating host feel inadequate? Did you have 
to walk to school over a 56 Kbps line?




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Protection against smurf attaque [7:14634]

2001-08-02 Thread BASSOLE Rock

Hello group,


I would like to protect my router against smurf attaque. For that I have to
set up a CAR on my serial interface. But I want to know how to determine the
proper amount of bandwidth for icmp packets for the CAR (I have a 8Mb/s
bandwidth interconnection to the Internet). By trail and error I have
determined a bandwidth of 128 kb/s.

CAR Configuration:

interface Serial 0
rate limit input access-group 102 128000 8000 8000 conform-action transmit
exceed-action drop

access-list 102 permit icmp any any echo
access-list 102 permit icmp any any echo-reply

I have another question, can somebody tell me the threshold of icmp packets
(in kb/s) necessary to consume a host ressources

Thank you.

Rock BASSOLE
Til:  +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03




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Ole Drews Jensen-Re: Is CCIE written still necessary for CCNPs? [7:14653]

2001-08-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

oh yes.ole u are right. thats what he means.. so is it necessary for a CCNP
to take the
CCIE written before he takes the CCIE lab?
i think it would be...
btw ive been thinking what value does ccie written have in the industry..i
mean im
studying for my ccnp and instead of doing ccnp i was having thoguhts of
directly taking
the ccie written and putting that up in my resume
 

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 What I think he means is that if the CCIE written is necessary for the CCIE
 LAB if you're an CCNP.

 Ole

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 Subject: Re: Is CCIE written still necessary for CCNPs? [7:14518]

 It has never been needed for CCNP

 Neil

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  Hi, all:
 
  I was told that CCIE written is no longer necessary for CCNPs. Is it
true?
 I
  could not find anything on Cisco web site to support it.
 
  Can anybody let me know?
 
  Regards




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Re: Major HELP!!! [7:14715]

2001-08-02 Thread Jeremiah Wegernoski

You'll have to boot from the image in ROM.
As your system starts to boot up, hit ctrl-break, or ctrl-alt-break
(whatever works for you, depending on your terminal program).
Then enter the command to boot from the image in ROM.
I believe it is:
b --

Then you'll be up and running and you can tftp over the correct image.

Jeremiah




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Re: A post in alt.certification.cisco all should read [7:9286]

2001-08-02 Thread John Tudong

www.dejanews.com (now Google)

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Boson Practice Tests [7:14694]

2001-08-02 Thread Jônatas Amorim

Hi,

I4d like to know what do you think about the Boson Practice Tests.
Have you ever tried this kind of test for CCNP ???

Thank in advance,

Jtnatas Lima de Amorim




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Re: A post in alt.certification.cisco all should read [7:9286]

2001-08-02 Thread Michael Damkot

I read Alt.certification but which posting are you referring to?


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Re: Router sim. for CCIE LAB exercise [7:14692]

2001-08-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I would say about 8-to-10 routers with about forty assorted interfaces,
cables and connectors.
ethernet
fast ethernet
token
serial -a/s
atm
bri
voice
3-to-4 switches rsm maybe
isdn emulator
or maybe you could just buy routerskim ($250) by Milagro technologies I
think that sim does everything but allow you to put a hostname on a router
and create loopback sub-interfaces. I think some of the other guys have used
it so they may want to add something.


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Subject: Router sim. for CCIE LAB exercise [7:14692]


 Dear all,

 Which router sim. program is the best for the CCIE LAB exercise?

 Thanks
 Ronnie Poon




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Can anybody get PIX Ripv2 authentication to work? [7:14699]

2001-08-02 Thread nrf

Hey all:

Got a PIX running 6.0 here, and I'm running Rip v2.  Everything is working
cool, I am passing Ripv2 updates between the PIX and my routers.

But I cannot use any authentication. No matter how many ways I do the
authentication, the Pix and the routers will not pass authenticated updates.
I do debug, and I keep getting complaints about how the authentication is
bad, etc.

Note, I can get the various routers to authenticate to each other just fine.
The part that is broken is the authentication from router to PIX.  I have
checked about 1000 times that the keystring is the same, and the same
authentication mode is being used, so I'm sure that part is OK.

So, has anybody ever gotten this to work?  I don't want to waste more time
on it and then find out it's just a general bug and it will never work.




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EIGRP's interpretation of NBMA and disabling multicasting? [7:14693]

2001-08-02 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

On Cisco's site, I've been searching for information as to when the hello
interval is set to 5 seconds and when it is set to 60 seconds.  Hellos are
sent every 5 seconds except on low-speed, NBMA media.  Low-speed is defined
as 1.544 Mbps and under.  No problems there.

What I don't understand is this statement:

Note that for the purposes of EIGRP, Frame Relay and Switched Multimegabit
Data Service (SMDS) networks may or may not be considered to be NBMA. These
networks are considered NBMA if the interface has not been configured to use
physical multicasting; otherwise they are not considered NBMA.

How can you configure an interface not to use multicasting?  This is
something I haven't come across how to do yet.  Is this configuring EIGRP
multicasts to use unicasts (I think I saw something like that last night but
I was too tired to comprehend it or even remember where I saw it).


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RE: Boson Practice Tests [7:14694]

2001-08-02 Thread Marshal Schoener

The Boson tests for the CCNP are excellent!
There are 3 different tests for each topic, and each test consists of exams
A-D...
So, you get around 600 practice questions for each topic if you buy them
all.
The 3 different tests are written by different people, so you get a slightly
different perspective

They do not replace actual studying in any way shape or form.
This is no transcender for the Windows NT exams :-) lol
But they are very helpful...
   Good luck!

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Hi,

I4d like to know what do you think about the Boson Practice Tests.
Have you ever tried this kind of test for CCNP ???

Thank in advance,

Jtnatas Lima de Amorim




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