Re: [7:18833]

2001-09-11 Thread Hehdili Nizar

Hi
I m interested too
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> I don't have the parts but I would love if you kept the list up to date
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> when I do get the parts I can follow what you guys did on the list.
>
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> [7:18761]
>
>
> count me in too..
>
>
> > ""mike johnson""  wrote in message
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> > >
> > > For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
> > > do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
> > > expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you.  I
> > > have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
> > > using a PC.  In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is
> > > essentially a PC with multiple interfaces.  I've
> > > successfully built several PIX firewall using my old
> > > PCs (i.e. pentium 200 MHz processor).  Actually, the
> > > PIX1 series (obsolete I know) is a PC with Intel
> > > EtherExpress Interface cards.  However, you must have
> > > an account with CCO in order the software and download
> > > the software.  The rest of the instructions on how to
> > > build a PIX firewall using PC is very simple.  Anyone
> > > interested in learning it, let me know.
> > >
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RE: Back to Back ISDN [7:19312]

2001-09-11 Thread Matthew Crane

Its certainly possibel in the Uk to run 2 separate BRI links with one D
channel and in certain areas it is also possible to use the D channel for
free voice calls. The D channel is not linked to a specific B channel and is
not 'owned' by a B channel once a link is up. You just have to be careful,
about the configuration and be happy tu run a B channel at 100% with no
additional capacity
Rick Harville wrote:
> 
> This is a fine group and I lurk here often, please help if you
> can...
> 
> Does anyone know if its possible to setup two C2503's back to
> back over a single ISDN line, assigning one spid to one router
> and the other spid to the second router?
> 
> I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device
> with a single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal
> a single ISDN line from SW Bell. I would like to split the
> spids at the nt1 device and practice my DDR with only one spid
> on each router.
> 
> If this is possible, please forward any info you might have on
> exactly how to do this? Thanks in advance.
> 
> 




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Re: [7:18833]

2001-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Please put my name in your list.
I'm interested too.

thanks
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> Hi
> I m interested too
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> > I don't have the parts but I would love if you kept the list up to date
> and
> > when I do get the parts I can follow what you guys did on the list.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Katsagianni Natasa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:46 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: =?iso-8859-7?Q?=C1=D0=3A_how_to_build_a_pix_firewall_out_of_a_?
> > [7:18761]
> >
> >
> > count me in too..
> >
> >
> > > ""mike johnson""  wrote in message
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> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
> > > > do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
> > > > expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you.  I
> > > > have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
> > > > using a PC.  In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is
> > > > essentially a PC with multiple interfaces.  I've
> > > > successfully built several PIX firewall using my old
> > > > PCs (i.e. pentium 200 MHz processor).  Actually, the
> > > > PIX1 series (obsolete I know) is a PC with Intel
> > > > EtherExpress Interface cards.  However, you must have
> > > > an account with CCO in order the software and download
> > > > the software.  The rest of the instructions on how to
> > > > build a PIX firewall using PC is very simple.  Anyone
> > > > interested in learning it, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
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RE: ISDN Switch/Simulator (UK) [7:19240]

2001-09-11 Thread Matthew Crane

If you want a really good simulator that does BRI, PRI & Analog lines then
speak to
Jo Kemp at Black Box Reading
or 
Suzanne Chapman at Frame Communications - http://www.frame.co.uk

You get 2 PRI E1/T1 ports, 8 BRI & 8 Analog, but its compeletly configurable
and about the best on the market from Emutel. Cost 6-7K

Thompson, Robert D wrote:
> 
> HI All,
> 
> Could any of you let me know where I can purchase an ISDN
> switch/simulator
> here in the UK , for lab purposes.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Rob
> 
> 




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RE: Looking for CIPT 3.0 coursebook [7:19338]

2001-09-11 Thread Matthew Crane

There is nothing really specific to 3.0 yet aprtfrom the course material but
there are 2 or 3, the best is Cisco Press - Cisco Call Manager Fundamentals.

The others are from Syngree/Global knowledge and worth looking at in the
shop/library but not worth the money:- Cisco Voice over Ip & Cisco AVVID.
both are really just product and architecture overviews, with emphasis on
the word overview.

which is why I am getting rid of my copies
Keith Yam wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for CIPT 3.0 coursebook. Thanks.
> 
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> 
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sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]

2001-09-11 Thread Jimmy Leong

Hi all :

Can anyone enlighten me whether I can create sub-interface on Ethernet 
or FastEthernet.

thanks in advance

regards
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RE: Multihoming BGP with two seperate ISP's via single router [7:19393]

2001-09-11 Thread Evans, TJ

As long as the PIX is 'pointed to' the inside Ethernet interface of the
router  the PIX should never know  about anything
past that.

Does your PIX point to the router as its DG?
Do you have the address space for your BGP AS# configured properly with your
ISP's? 
Does this happen regardless of which ISP is left & which one is removed?
... and when you say the router is routing to the remaining ISP; do you mean
you see routes forming or do you mean you can pass packets?

>


Thanks!
TJ

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that [7:19328]

Hello,

I am multihoming BGP with two seperate ISP's via single router that is
connected to a PIX.
When I shutdown the one of my serial ports to one of the ISP's you can
see the BGP table
removing paths. All trace's show that the router starts routing to the
ISP
that is still active, but all the workstations on the inside of the pix
interface can no
longer route. I've read where the PIX Firewall does not support the use
of BGP, and that I
could use RIP between them. Does anyone have an example of this
configuration? My searches
on this subject within Cisco's knowledgebase have not been very
successfull. Or if you can
think of another solution for my setup, please let me know.

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Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-11 Thread James Haynes

Congratulations.

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> with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried
> to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3
to
> 5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I
want
> to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know?
>
> BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at
and
> at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
> Thanks again,
> Tom
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RE: Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]

2001-09-11 Thread Art

I am also planning to start Cisco Security certification and would
appreciate if some one can recommend good practice tests.

Thank you
Art



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|
|Hi Matthew,
|
|Thank you very much for your clear & precise advise.
|It is really a comfort feeling to have such prompt response.
|
|With regards
|Steven Quek
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|Professional Service
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|
|
|-Original Message-
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|Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:22 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]
|
|
|Hi Steven
|
|To do the full Cisco Security thing you must take 5 exams as
|follows and
|preferably in this order
|MCNS
|Pix Firewall Fundamentals
|Pix Firewall Advanced
|Cisco Secure VPN
|Cisco Intrusion Detection
|
|The reason for this approach as I always tell my staff &
|students is that
|the MCNS is comprehensive and gives you a great deal of material in the
|other exams, especially the area of IKE, IPsec, ISAKMP etc.
|
|Books Cisco Press
|Managing Cisco Network Security
|Designing Network Security
|Cisco IOS 12.0 Network Security
|Cisco Secure Internet Security Solutions
|
|There is also the McGraw Hill Implementing Cisco Secure VPN's
|but that is so
|full of holes and errors I would not bother. There is a book from cisco
|Press on VPN's due late 2001 written by Andrew Mason & Terri
|Smith and if it
|is half as good as Terri is as a VPN course instructor then it
|will be well
|worth the money.
|
|The odd one out is CSIDS which requires a deal of Unix
|knowledge especially
|Solaris, plus some Openview stuff.
|
|The key to all the exams is understand fully IKE, ISAkmp and
|the security
|process of why & how.
|
|If you have not done CCNP or the BCRAN part of CCNPO then i
|wopuld recommend
|you take a look at it as background to the IOS side of security.
|
|Good luck and if you need any further specific info email me direct.
|
|Quek, Steven wrote:
|>
|> Hi,
|>
|> This has been a great Cisco study site and enjoy most of it for
|> the abundant
|> of info that is shared
|> on the discussion.
|>
|> Currently I am preparing for the Cisco Security Track and
|> seeking some
|> advise.
|> I had been to Cisco site and there seems to have 4 exams to
|> pass:
|>
|> 1) MCNS
|> 2) Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Advanced (CSPFA)
|> 3) Cisco Secure Intrusion Detention System (CSIDS)
|> 4) Cisco Secure VPN (CSVPN)
|>
|> Question is that must I pass the above exams? Need some
|> confirmation on this
|>
|> Next I would appreciate greatly if anyone can recommend me the
|> books to read
|> up for each of
|> the exam.
|>
|> Thank you very much & have a nice day.
|>
|> With regards
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RE: Back to Back ISDN [7:19312]

2001-09-11 Thread Dan Faulk

Ive been told and it makes perfect it is indeed possible. Let me know how
things turn out as your configuration is ver close to what I will be using
when the time comes.

Dan

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Rick Harville
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:41 PM
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Subject: Back to Back ISDN [7:19312]


This is a fine group and I lurk here often, please help if you can...

Does anyone know if its possible to setup two C2503's back to back over a
single ISDN line, assigning one spid to one router and the other spid to the
second router?

I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a single ISDN line
from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device and practice
my DDR with only one spid on each router.

If this is possible, please forward any info you might have on exactly how
to do this? Thanks in advance.




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nbar [7:19399]

2001-09-11 Thread kaushalenders

hi,
can any body  which cisco image of 1750 have support for http protcol.plz
help help me

kaushalenders




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Jan 31, 11:56am, "Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote:
} At 03:58 PM 9/10/01, Glenn Johnson wrote:
} >While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential to be
} >abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some heightened level
of
} >snip
} >
} >Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe they
} >will be unable to convert it properly :-)
} 
} CNX numbers really were in Hex! Mine is 01CCDD. ;-)

 I did a search in the IEEE Standards OUI database for that number,
but it isn't listed.  I guess that means that you don't exist.  :-)
Or, we could register it and make a "Priscilla" brand.  On second
thought, that 01 would indicate it is a funny one, i.e. multicast or
locally assigned, wouldn't it?

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SNA/DLSW+ course in Europe? [7:19401]

2001-09-11 Thread kaushik khakhar

Hi @, I am bit confussed with course (intructor led) to be taken in order
to prepare for CCIE Written on topic of SNA and DLSW. Cisco recommends
SNAM. Will this cover DLSW in details.. Above all, it would be great if
you can share your personal experience abt the course taken in Europe.
Please recommend preferred training company for this course.

Regards, Kaushik Khakhar A



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RE: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Jin

You should be able to do this with ISL.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/switch_r/xrswcmd.pdf




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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:19354]

2001-09-11 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I read the CCIE Sybex book and thought that it was ok. It seems to me that
it is more of a summary of all of the topics that you need to know. Here is
what I used:
Jeff Doyle, Routing TCP/IP, Volume 1
Caslow, Bridging, Routing, and Switching for CCIE's Volume 2
Sybex, CCIE, (Just skimmed over)
Halabi, IRA
CCIE Written prep book from www.ccbootcamp.com  
Boson 1, 2, 3 (Some people have mentioned that 1 and 2 where sufficient but
I also used 3 and I felt it gave me the extra push I needed)
CCIE Written bootcamp by www.ccbootcamp.com 
This helped me nail down the topics I was uncomfortable withbridging,
RIF's yada yada yada.
Drop me an email if I can help you more. I just passed last Friday using all
of the info above.

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Subject:CCIE Written Exam [7:19354]

Hello Group.

I am preaparing for CCIE Exam. I will appreciate if you can
give me some 
feedback about Todd Lammle's CCIE book.

Moreover, I have lot of CCIE BDs /Exam notes. I would like
to trade my 
resources with you if you have some CCIE written notes /
resources for me. 
Please send me your emails at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks

James Liu
MCSE, CCNA and CCNP

Thanks

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Re: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]

2001-09-11 Thread Jeff Smith

Certainly can.  Used often when routing between vlans when the router is 
external to the switch (non- rsm, msfc, etc)- the old "router on a stick" 
scenario.

>From: "Jimmy Leong" 
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:47:35 -0400
>
>Hi all :
>
> Can anyone enlighten me whether I can create sub-interface on Ethernet
>or FastEthernet.
>
>thanks in advance
>
>regards
>Jimmy
>
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RE: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-11 Thread Wright, Jeremy

Yeah, I just concentrated on the questions in front of me and used the full
amount of time..so going back wasn't in my playbook unless it would help me
with the question in front of me. Jeremy Wright 

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Congratulations!!

Ability to go back did not help me out either but I guess it
is good to know
that it is there if you need it.

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can i disable tftp server on 6509 [7:19407]

2001-09-11 Thread tom

cat os,enable it and disable it.
i found a tftpd process on 6509 cat os
,can i disable it
 thank you




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Please look [7:19408]

2001-09-11 Thread Wright, Jeremy

This is off of the subject..but very important news:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010911/ts/mdf50402.html





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Redistribution OSPF and IGRP [7:19409]

2001-09-11 Thread CCIE Loh

Hi,
 Can someone enlighten me on the following
 redistribution scenario? If I will to use
 "summary-address" what are the statements that I
 need? Thanks in advance.
 

R1 -R5--R4
 
 R1
 running OSPF 
 IP address is 137.20.25.1/24
 
 R5
 Running OSPF and IGRP
 IP address is 137.20.25.5/24 and 137.20.200.17/28
 
 R4
 running IGRP
 IP address is 137.20.200.18/28
 

The "summary-address" command in R5 is

router ospf 10
 summary-address 137.20.25.0 255.255.255.240 
 
But when I do a "show ip ospf summary" the metric is
very large. I suspect that it is because of this large
metric that the route did not get redistributed to the
IGRP domain. Please advise. Thanks.


R5#show ip ospf summary

OSPF Process 10, Summary-address

137.20.25.0/255.255.255.240 Metric 16777215, Type 0,
Tag 0
R5#

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OT: Selling my library... [7:19404]

2001-09-11 Thread Eric McMasters

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selling my networking library.  All of the information is listed on ebay at 
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RE: nbar [7:19399]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

last I checked, the IOS feature navigator on CCO was not up to date. I.e.
was not providing 1750 images as having NBAR capability. Other places on CCO
say that NBAR IS supported on the 17xx platform.

You may want to call Cisco pre-sales support and ask them - 1-800-553-NETS

Chuck

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hi,
can any body  which cisco image of 1750 have support for http protcol.plz
help help me

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Appletalk Zone filtering [7:19392]

2001-09-11 Thread Donny Mateo

Dear List,

got a little problem in understanding the real difference of using 
Getzonelist-filter and zip-reply-filter. The way I see it is both are doing 
exactly the same thing. CID by cisco press stated that zip-reply-filter is 
recommended to be used over GZL since GZL is not scallable and must be 
configure on every router. Doesn't the same thing also applies to 
zip-reply-filter ?

Thanks in advance

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RE: Redistribution OSPF and IGRP [7:19409]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

the topic of IGRP/OSPF redistribution has been covered every which way
including Sunday on the CCIE list.

If you are not yet subscribed to that list, you can still check the archives

http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/ccielab

FYI, there has been thorough coverage of ALL the practice lab materials
there as well.

HTH

Chuck

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Hi,
 Can someone enlighten me on the following
 redistribution scenario? If I will to use
 "summary-address" what are the statements that I
 need? Thanks in advance.


R1 -R5--R4

 R1
 running OSPF
 IP address is 137.20.25.1/24

 R5
 Running OSPF and IGRP
 IP address is 137.20.25.5/24 and 137.20.200.17/28

 R4
 running IGRP
 IP address is 137.20.200.18/28


The "summary-address" command in R5 is

router ospf 10
 summary-address 137.20.25.0 255.255.255.240

But when I do a "show ip ospf summary" the metric is
very large. I suspect that it is because of this large
metric that the route did not get redistributed to the
IGRP domain. Please advise. Thanks.


R5#show ip ospf summary

OSPF Process 10, Summary-address

137.20.25.0/255.255.255.240 Metric 16777215, Type 0,
Tag 0
R5#

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Re: BGP Confederations [7:19332]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

Each confederation has it's own AS but the confederation identifier
would be the same.  For the confederations you can use the private AS
numbers 64512-65534.  If you have Internet Routing Architectures by Sam
Halabi you will have the BGP bible.

  Dave

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> >From the material I've read, I am confused about whether to use separate
> autonymous
> systems numbers for each confederation or separate confederation numbers or
> both.
> Can some elaborate?
> Thanks!
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound routes since your
using a private AS on one link and default on the other.  You need to
work with your providers if you wish to have incoming traffic to your
network influenced one way or the other.

suaveguru wrote:
> 
> hi all
> 
> I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing
> issue but still no answer .
> 
> It goes as such
> 
> Customer A has two providers to Internet
> 
> The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
> only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
> 
> The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex
> but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely
> a default route
> 
> Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic
> between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to
> the customer.
> 
> I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but
> was not so ready to use it because the customer does
> not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS
> number provided by the first satellite provider and
> the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at
> their router
> 
> Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
> 
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Re: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC bo [7:18335]

2001-09-11 Thread Gaz

Hmmm... various expressions spring to mind. But scepticism hasn't always
served me well. PLease let us know from whence this so called  PC-PIX does
cometh !


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RE: Please look [7:19408]

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Holloway

God Bless all those people!

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This is off of the subject..but very important news:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010911/ts/mdf50402.html




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Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Rick Harville

I have received several responses sofar expressing a great interest in the
solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems to be a very
acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody seems to be
able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives reveals discussions
but no real verification that this is possible. The p If anyone has actually
done this please respond as there seems to be a great interest in doing this.

Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st) interfaces through
a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?

I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a single ISDN line
from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device and practice
my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread suaveguru

what do you mean by this?
--- Brian  wrote:
> Troll Alert
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Farhan Ahmed" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
> problem [7:19339]
> 
> 
> > then u should think abt running 2 static routes
> > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
> problem [7:19339]
> >
> >
> > hi all
> >
> > I have been cracking my head with this
> load-balancing
> > issue but still no answer .
> >
> >
> > It goes as such
> >
> > Customer A has two providers to Internet
> >
> > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
> > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
> >
> > The second provider is a terrestrial link
> full-duplex
> > but the customer does not run BGP with them but
> purely
> > a default route
> >
> > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
> traffic
> > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
> to
> > the customer.
> >
> >
> > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
> but
> > was not so ready to use it because the customer
> does
> > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
> AS
> > number provided by the first satellite provider
> and
> > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
> at
> > their router
> >
> > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
> >
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PIX out of a PC.... [7:19419]

2001-09-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Were the directions ever posted?

It almost seems as if the original poster was blowing smoke..  What gives?

I mean even the newest pix boxes are still intel based... but that doesn't
mean I can use my old pentium as a pix.

Anybody have a clue on this?

-Patrick




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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread suaveguru

do you think having them change private AS to public
AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some
kind of influencing?


regards,
suaveguru
--- MADMAN  wrote:
> 
>   You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound
> routes since your
> using a private AS on one link and default on the
> other.  You need to
> work with your providers if you wish to have
> incoming traffic to your
> network influenced one way or the other.
> 
> suaveguru wrote:
> > 
> > hi all
> > 
> > I have been cracking my head with this
> load-balancing
> > issue but still no answer .
> > 
> > It goes as such
> > 
> > Customer A has two providers to Internet
> > 
> > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
> > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
> > 
> > The second provider is a terrestrial link
> full-duplex
> > but the customer does not run BGP with them but
> purely
> > a default route
> > 
> > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
> traffic
> > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
> to
> > the customer.
> > 
> > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
> but
> > was not so ready to use it because the customer
> does
> > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
> AS
> > number provided by the first satellite provider
> and
> > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
> at
> > their router
> > 
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Re: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

You certainly can

  Dave

Jimmy Leong wrote:
> 
> Hi all :
> 
> Can anyone enlighten me whether I can create sub-interface on Ethernet
> or FastEthernet.
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> regards
> Jimmy
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RE: PIX out of a PC.... [7:19419]

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Jin

I have not heard anything.

Also, I think these ISA flash cards, if you can get one, cost quite a bit

Paul


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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

A prepend will surely influence the inbound traffic.  Is most of your
traffic currently arriving via the provider your doing BGP with?  What
exactly are you seeing??  Why are you even doing BGP with a private AS
that is incoming only??  With the info you provided it's hard to give a
good answer.

  dave

suaveguru wrote:
> 
> do you think having them change private AS to public
> AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some
> kind of influencing?
> 
> regards,
> suaveguru
> --- MADMAN  wrote:
> >
> >   You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound
> > routes since your
> > using a private AS on one link and default on the
> > other.  You need to
> > work with your providers if you wish to have
> > incoming traffic to your
> > network influenced one way or the other.
> >
> > suaveguru wrote:
> > >
> > > hi all
> > >
> > > I have been cracking my head with this
> > load-balancing
> > > issue but still no answer .
> > >
> > > It goes as such
> > >
> > > Customer A has two providers to Internet
> > >
> > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
> > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
> > >
> > > The second provider is a terrestrial link
> > full-duplex
> > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but
> > purely
> > > a default route
> > >
> > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
> > traffic
> > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
> > to
> > > the customer.
> > >
> > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
> > but
> > > was not so ready to use it because the customer
> > does
> > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
> > AS
> > > number provided by the first satellite provider
> > and
> > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
> > at
> > > their router
> > >
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Re: Redistribution OSPF and IGRP [7:19409]

2001-09-11 Thread EA Louie

you've chosen a very difficult redistribution exercise - redistributing from
a smaller to larger prefix.

Assuming you know how to redistribute generally (it looks like you're
already a CCIE), you know that the summary-address in OSPF summarizes
inbound into OSPF, and is advertised by OSPF at an ASBR.

Issues that you face:
#1.  The IGRP process runs on 137.20.0.0 and you probably already know that
all network masks on attached IGRP interfaces need to be uniform.  You have
two diffferent masks on R5 - /24 and /28 for the same classful network.

#2.  You really don't have any routes to redistribute since the networks are
both directly attached to both routing protocols on R5.  Consider using
another network on the end of R1, perhaps on a loopback interface, to
redistribute.  However, you run into the issue on R5 of variable length
masks, which will cause you grief in redistibution into IGRP

#3.  Redistribution from a smaller to larger prefix is always difficult -
the only two solutions that I can think of are:
a.  Creating 4 static routes (.0, .64, .128, .192) to null0 with a high
administrative distance and redistributing static into IGRP
b.  Creating 4 summary-addresses in OSPF and doing the same.

Good luck, my friend

- Original Message -
From: "CCIE Loh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:39 AM
Subject: Redistribution OSPF and IGRP [7:19409]


> Hi,
>  Can someone enlighten me on the following
>  redistribution scenario? If I will to use
>  "summary-address" what are the statements that I
>  need? Thanks in advance.
>
>
> R1 -R5--R4
>
>  R1
>  running OSPF
>  IP address is 137.20.25.1/24
>
>  R5
>  Running OSPF and IGRP
>  IP address is 137.20.25.5/24 and 137.20.200.17/28
>
>  R4
>  running IGRP
>  IP address is 137.20.200.18/28
>
>
> The "summary-address" command in R5 is
>
> router ospf 10
>  summary-address 137.20.25.0 255.255.255.240
>
> But when I do a "show ip ospf summary" the metric is
> very large. I suspect that it is because of this large
> metric that the route did not get redistributed to the
> IGRP domain. Please advise. Thanks.
>
>
> R5#show ip ospf summary
>
> OSPF Process 10, Summary-address
>
> 137.20.25.0/255.255.255.240 Metric 16777215, Type 0,
> Tag 0
> R5#
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Re: Subject: port and protocol numbers, etc [7:19350]

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Werner

Howard posted a link about a draft RFC tat was addressing the 
future of RFC 1700.  We had a back and forth exchange about the 
utility of this RFC, and I made mention of a couple of 
improvements that could be made.  I decided to go ahead and put 
my two cents worth on the matter and I submitted my comments to 
the RFC editor.  Basically, my comments were in two areas.  One 
was that RFC 1700, and its successor RFCs, need to remain in 
ASCII format for its portability, particularly in places like 
wiring closets, etc, where an Internet connection is not 
available.  Additionally, my comments regarding indication of 
the predominant transport layer protocol in use were also 
submitted. We need to have a ready identifier that either TCP 
or UDP is in use for a given application.

I actually got a reply from Bob Braden, the RFC editor.  He has 
passed my comments on to IANA for consideration.  He took my 
comments and made an additional proposal which is an 
outstanding idea.  He felt there was nothing that could prevent 
a daily updated RFC 1700 that could be built with a programming 
script.  In essence, RFC 1700 would remain in ASCII format and 
stay current every day.  I hope that happens.

v/r,

Paul Werner

> Every so often someone asks about port numbers and IP 
protocol numbers
> and 
> other such numbers and we all moan and groan about the demise 
of RFC
> 1700, 
> the Assigned Numbers RFC.
> 
> Well, guess what I just discovered? The Internet Assigned 
Numbers
> Authority 
> (IANA) is still alive and doing well and they keep some nice 
documents
> with 
> this sort of information. You may want to bookmark this URL:
> 
> http://www.iana.org/numbers.html



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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

If memory serves, this has been discussed on the CCIE list, complete with
solutions. Try searching the archives at:

http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/ccielab

best wishes

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rick Harville
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]


I have received several responses sofar expressing a great interest in the
solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems to be a very
acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody seems to be
able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives reveals discussions
but no real verification that this is possible. The p If anyone has actually
done this please respond as there seems to be a great interest in doing
this.

Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st) interfaces through
a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?

I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a single ISDN line
from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device and practice
my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

I think what he means is since they are not using a registered AS the
AS that they are using is striped at the provider and your network is
seen as originating from your provider not from your private AS.

  Dave

suaveguru wrote:
> 
> what do you mean by this?
> --- Brian  wrote:
> > Troll Alert
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Farhan Ahmed"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
> > problem [7:19339]
> >
> >
> > > then u should think abt running 2 static routes
> > > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
> > problem [7:19339]
> > >
> > >
> > > hi all
> > >
> > > I have been cracking my head with this
> > load-balancing
> > > issue but still no answer .
> > >
> > >
> > > It goes as such
> > >
> > > Customer A has two providers to Internet
> > >
> > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
> > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
> > >
> > > The second provider is a terrestrial link
> > full-duplex
> > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but
> > purely
> > > a default route
> > >
> > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
> > traffic
> > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
> > to
> > > the customer.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
> > but
> > > was not so ready to use it because the customer
> > does
> > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
> > AS
> > > number provided by the first satellite provider
> > and
> > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
> > at
> > > their router
> > >
> > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
> > >
> > >
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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

See the following:
http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm

As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1 device with
multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several devices to
it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not done this but
everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> I have received several responses sofar expressing a great 
> interest in the
> solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems to be a very
> acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody 
> seems to be
> able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives 
> reveals discussions
> but no real verification that this is possible. The p If 
> anyone has actually
> done this please respond as there seems to be a great 
> interest in doing this.
> 
> Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st) 
> interfaces through
> a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> 
> I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
> single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a 
> single ISDN line
> from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 
> device and practice
> my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Williams

Hello all.  I've got a situation here. I'm trying to setup a bunch of VLANs
on a 6509 in the lab.  I've already created the VLANs in the VLAN database. 
Here is what I want to setup

int vlan 10
  ip address 10.1.10.0 255.255.255.0
int vlan 20
  ip address 10.1.20.0 255.255.255.0
int vlan 30
  ip address 10.1.30.0 255.255.255.0
int vlan 40
  ip address 10.1.40.0 255.255.255.0
int vlan 50
  ip address 10.1.50.0 255.255.255.0

But when I give the ip address command (on VLAN 10) it says:

"Bad mask /24 for address 10.1.10.0"

I've made sure that ip classless and ip subnet-zero are both enabled.  I've
searched Cisco's site and it says that all you have to do when you get that
error is enable ip subnet-zero, but I've done that and it still rejects.

I'm not opposed to using 192.168.x.x for my experiment, but this has become
kinda like a mission to understand why this won't work

Any input is appreciated.

Mike W.



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RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Williams

FOLLOW UP:

I guess I'm a dummy as I should be putting:

ip address 10.1.10.1 255.255.255.0

(instead of 10.1.10.0)

I sincerely apologize for having a lapse in memory in public like that =)

Feel free to laugh and heckle endlessly at my expense =)

Mike W.


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RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Try using an IP address other than one ending in ".0".  You're trying to use
a network address on a host.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Michael Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Bad Mask error [7:19428]
>
>
> Hello all.  I've got a situation here. I'm trying to setup a
> bunch of VLANs
> on a 6509 in the lab.  I've already created the VLANs in the VLAN
> database.
> Here is what I want to setup
>
> int vlan 10
>   ip address 10.1.10.0 255.255.255.0
> int vlan 20
>   ip address 10.1.20.0 255.255.255.0
> int vlan 30
>   ip address 10.1.30.0 255.255.255.0
> int vlan 40
>   ip address 10.1.40.0 255.255.255.0
> int vlan 50
>   ip address 10.1.50.0 255.255.255.0
>
> But when I give the ip address command (on VLAN 10) it says:
>
> "Bad mask /24 for address 10.1.10.0"
>
> I've made sure that ip classless and ip subnet-zero are both
> enabled.  I've
> searched Cisco's site and it says that all you have to do when
> you get that
> error is enable ip subnet-zero, but I've done that and it still rejects.
>
> I'm not opposed to using 192.168.x.x for my experiment, but this
> has become
> kinda like a mission to understand why this won't work
>
> Any input is appreciated.
>
> Mike W.




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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I take a little
gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use one of these
for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two telephones into the
gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone service, no.  But I
have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Daniel Cotts
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
>
>
> See the following:
> http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
>
> As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> device with
> multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> devices to
> it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not done this but
> everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > interest in the
> > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems to be a very
> > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > seems to be
> > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > reveals discussions
> > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > anyone has actually
> > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > interest in doing this.
> >
> > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > interfaces through
> > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> >
> > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
> > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > single ISDN line
> > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > device and practice
> > my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line has one channel.
Did you visit the URL in my previous post?

> -Original Message-
> From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I 
> take a little
> gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use 
> one of these
> for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two 
> telephones into the
> gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone 
> service, no.  But I
> have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Daniel Cotts
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > See the following:
> > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
> >
> > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > device with
> > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > devices to
> > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not 
> done this but
> > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > interest in the
> > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems 
> to be a very
> > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > seems to be
> > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > reveals discussions
> > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > anyone has actually
> > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > interest in doing this.
> > >
> > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > interfaces through
> > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > >
> > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 
> device with a
> > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > single ISDN line
> > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > device and practice
> > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread sparkest pig

Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?



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PIX Firewall [7:19434]

2001-09-11 Thread Pierre-Alex

For testing purpose I want to open all the ports of my firewall.

The firewall uses software version 4.07 and uses conduit statements.

I have tried many statements but nothing works.

Can you help?

Pierre-Alex




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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Matthew Crane

If you follow Chucks advice the posting listed below is a good guide on how
to split B channels

Re: ISDN B-channel splitting posted 03/23/2000

Rick Harville wrote:
> 
> I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> interest in the solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN
> line seems to be a very acceptable approach to simulating DDR.
> Unfortunately, nobody seems to be able to confirm that it can
> be done. A seach of archives reveals discussions but no real
> verification that this is possible. The p If anyone has
> actually done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> interest in doing this.
> 
> Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> interfaces through a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> 
> I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device
> with a
> single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> single ISDN line
> from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device
> and practice
> my DDR with only one spid on each router.
> 
> 




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RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Never say that about yourself.  I'm sure many of us recognized that error...
because we've done it once or twice ourselves.  (-:

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> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]
>
>
> FOLLOW UP:
>
> I guess I'm a dummy as I should be putting:
>
> ip address 10.1.10.1 255.255.255.0
>
> (instead of 10.1.10.0)
>
> I sincerely apologize for having a lapse in memory in public like that =)
>
> Feel free to laugh and heckle endlessly at my expense =)
>
> Mike W.




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Re: PIX Firewall [7:19434]

2001-09-11 Thread Brad Ellis

If memory serves me correctly, all you need is the following statement:

conduit permit ip any any

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
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used Cisco:  www.optsys.net

""Pierre-Alex""  wrote in message
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> For testing purpose I want to open all the ports of my firewall.
>
> The firewall uses software version 4.07 and uses conduit statements.
>
> I have tried many statements but nothing works.
>
> Can you help?
>
> Pierre-Alex




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RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread David Goddard

Actually, she's right (guilty)...


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RE: Bad Mask error [7:19428]

2001-09-11 Thread David Goddard

Mike,

  try making your addresses .1, ie 10.1.50.1 255.255.255.0


should be the trick...

Dave


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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Two telephones have two telephony links... and they can be linked together
using a bus... but without POTS service, they can't call each other, can
they.  All the bus does is enable multiple ISDN devices to be able to
connect to the ISDN service (which is provided either by a telco or a
simulator).

And yes, I visited the URL you posted.  The ISDN BRI service and ISDN cloud
are key components of that excerpt.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
>
>
> Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line has one channel.
> Did you visit the URL in my previous post?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I
> > take a little
> > gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use
> > one of these
> > for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two
> > telephones into the
> > gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone
> > service, no.  But I
> > have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Daniel Cotts
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > See the following:
> > > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > > device with
> > > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > > devices to
> > > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not
> > done this but
> > > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > > interest in the
> > > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems
> > to be a very
> > > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > > seems to be
> > > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > > reveals discussions
> > > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > > anyone has actually
> > > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > > interest in doing this.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > > interfaces through
> > > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1
> > device with a
> > > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > > single ISDN line
> > > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > > device and practice
> > > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms of
investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning, into
corporate spending. that translates into jobs.

yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
sarcastically.

this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.

hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
area are ok.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
sparkest pig
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US Stock [7:19433]


Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?



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PIX Default Behaviour incorrect? [7:19439]

2001-09-11 Thread Pierre-Alex

I am using Firewall with software version 4.07 with the configuration below:

My clients can ping any address on the Internet but cannot use FTP, Telnet
or not even a Web browser

Pinging by name works fine!

Am I missing something in my configs. I thought by that default the clients
would have access to anything

on the outside, while no one could access things on the inside. Am I wrong?

Pierre-Alex

PIX Version 4.0.7to PIX
enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
syslog output 20.3
no syslog console
interface ethernet outside 10baset
interface ethernet inside 10baset
ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
ip address outside 108.145.86.53 255.255.255.0
arp timeout 14400
global 1 108.145.86.52-108.145.86.52
nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
age 10
no rip outside passive
no rip outside default
no rip inside passive
no rip inside default
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 108.145.86.1 1
timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500
: end
[OK]




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Re: Appletalk Zone filtering [7:19392]

2001-09-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

When a Macintosh pulls up the Chooser, the Mac sends out a request to get 
zones. A router responds. You can tell the router not to respond with a 
GetZoneList filter.

When a router learns from another router about a new network, the router 
asks the other router for the zones associated with that network. You can 
make sure the router doesn't respond by doing a ZIPReplyFilter. The result 
is that the network doesn't end up in the routing table because a network 
without a zone doesn't "exist" in Cisco's implementation. Because the 
network doesn't end up in the routing table, routers downstream don't ever 
hear about it. This means that there's no need to do the ZIPReplyFilter on 
routers downstream.

ZIPReplyFilter is more scalable because you don't have to run around to 
each router that may have Macintoshes nearby and set up the GetZoneList
filter.

Priscilla

At 11:01 AM 9/11/01, Donny Mateo wrote:
>Dear List,
>
>got a little problem in understanding the real difference of using
>Getzonelist-filter and zip-reply-filter. The way I see it is both are doing
>exactly the same thing. CID by cisco press stated that zip-reply-filter is
>recommended to be used over GZL since GZL is not scallable and must be
>configure on every router. Doesn't the same thing also applies to
>zip-reply-filter ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>dmateo
>
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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Jim Brown

Can't they share a ISDN line? Doesn't the protocol allow for multiple ST
devices assigned different endpoints on the same circuit? Most NT1s have
multiple ST connections.

I'm only speaking from a theoretical standpoint and could be completely way
off base, but couldn't two routers share and single ISDN circuit.

A very fair B channel for each?

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]


Two telephones have two telephony links... and they can be linked together
using a bus... but without POTS service, they can't call each other, can
they.  All the bus does is enable multiple ISDN devices to be able to
connect to the ISDN service (which is provided either by a telco or a
simulator).

And yes, I visited the URL you posted.  The ISDN BRI service and ISDN cloud
are key components of that excerpt.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
>
>
> Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line has one channel.
> Did you visit the URL in my previous post?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I
> > take a little
> > gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use
> > one of these
> > for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two
> > telephones into the
> > gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone
> > service, no.  But I
> > have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Daniel Cotts
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > See the following:
> > > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > > device with
> > > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > > devices to
> > > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not
> > done this but
> > > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > > interest in the
> > > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems
> > to be a very
> > > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > > seems to be
> > > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > > reveals discussions
> > > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > > anyone has actually
> > > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > > interest in doing this.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > > interfaces through
> > > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1
> > device with a
> > > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > > single ISDN line
> > > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > > device and practice
> > > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning, into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>
>
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread B.J. Wilson

Chuck brings up a good point, one that has been thought of before: back
during the height of the arms race, it was theorized that it's a real bad
idea to centralize all of your capital.  It was thought that maybe all the
factories should be spread out evenly, rather than concentrated in any one
place - that way, there would be no one place that a nuclear weapon could be
detonated that would cause a *major* amount of damage.  (Kinda like a Borg
spaceship, in a sense).  I'm hoping that some of the result of this is that
we de-centralize as much as possible - skyscrapers are great if you're
hurting for land space, but they're also juicy targets.  Hopefully we'll
spread our resources out a bit in order to avoid another tragedy like this.

BJ



- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


> since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
> of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms
of
> investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
into
> corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
> yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
> mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch,
I
> would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> sarcastically.
>
> this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
> as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
> hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
> area are ok.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> sparkest pig
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
> 
>
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

what's even worse to think about is all of the couples that work there that
leave their children in day care.

Here in atlanta, half the city is shut down and our hospitals are on standby
just in case...

unreal completely unreal.

>>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  09/11/01 01:45PM >>>
We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning, into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>
>
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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

yes, if you have an ISDN adapter with two S/T ports and a single U port, the
U port plugs into the telco line, obviously. Your two routers with their S/T
ports plug into the S/T ports of the TA. configure your dialers on the
router to use only one spid. call the other.

same as if I have my dial up line and my telephone plugged into the back of
my TA, kinda like I doe at work.

assuming of course that your telco has your ISDN configured this way, but
they usually do automatically these days.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]


Can't they share a ISDN line? Doesn't the protocol allow for multiple ST
devices assigned different endpoints on the same circuit? Most NT1s have
multiple ST connections.

I'm only speaking from a theoretical standpoint and could be completely way
off base, but couldn't two routers share and single ISDN circuit.

A very fair B channel for each?

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]


Two telephones have two telephony links... and they can be linked together
using a bus... but without POTS service, they can't call each other, can
they.  All the bus does is enable multiple ISDN devices to be able to
connect to the ISDN service (which is provided either by a telco or a
simulator).

And yes, I visited the URL you posted.  The ISDN BRI service and ISDN cloud
are key components of that excerpt.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
>
>
> Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line has one channel.
> Did you visit the URL in my previous post?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I
> > take a little
> > gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use
> > one of these
> > for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two
> > telephones into the
> > gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone
> > service, no.  But I
> > have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Daniel Cotts
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > See the following:
> > > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > > device with
> > > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > > devices to
> > > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not
> > done this but
> > > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > > interest in the
> > > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems
> > to be a very
> > > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > > seems to be
> > > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > > reveals discussions
> > > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > > anyone has actually
> > > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > > interest in doing this.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > > interfaces through
> > > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1
> > device with a
> > > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > > single ISDN line
> > > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > > device and practice
> > > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Chuck Larrieu

my apologies if I appeared unsympathetic. I worked a number of years in the
brokerage business, several of those years for Merrill Lynch. I have friends
and acquaintances who worked in that part of New York. There are also
several folks I have come to respect and appreciate through this and other
lists who work in that part of town. I am anxiously awaiting e-mail
confirmation of their well being.

this tragedy is too great for words. my anger sometimes gets the better of
me. there are far more important things to consider at this time.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms
of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>
>
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Juan Blanco

Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to save
as many peoples as posible

My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack

God bless america..

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]

We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
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>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Chuck,

I know you are not unsympathetic. I just wanted to clear that up.

Well, we better all get back to work before this erupts into a major waste 
of bandwidth! ;-]

Peace,

Priscilla

At 10:58 AM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>my apologies if I appeared unsympathetic. I worked a number of years in the
>brokerage business, several of those years for Merrill Lynch. I have friends
>and acquaintances who worked in that part of New York. There are also
>several folks I have come to respect and appreciate through this and other
>lists who work in that part of town. I am anxiously awaiting e-mail
>confirmation of their well being.
>
>this tragedy is too great for words. my anger sometimes gets the better of
>me. there are far more important things to consider at this time.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families
>(if that can even be done??)
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
> >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms
>of
> >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
>into
> >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> >
> >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
> >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch,
I
> >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> >sarcastically.
> >
> >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
> >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> >
> >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
> >area are ok.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >sparkest pig
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> >Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> >
> >
> >
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Steve Smith

Sorry Priscilla, but until "adults" realize that your own selfish, buy
what you want, do what makes you happy, your needs are alot more
important than anyone else's, immature, can't sacrifice my feelings and
what I want to do is more important than any spouse or child, attitudes
change, it ain't gonna happen.

But some of us still remain. :>

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>---
-
>
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread B.J. Wilson

Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this incredible
loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of rebuilding
our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.  As
far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made sure
my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
praying?


- Original Message -
From: "Juan Blanco" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


> Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
save
> as many peoples as posible
>
> My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
>
> God bless america..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
> We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> families
> (if that can even be done??)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> number
> >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> terms of
> >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
> into
> >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> >
> >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> eventually
> >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> scratch, I
> >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> >sarcastically.
> >
> >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> weak
> >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> >
> >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> that
> >area are ok.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >sparkest pig
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> >Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> >
> >---
> -
> >
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> 
>
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Gareth Hinton

The big picture!
Is technology really that relevant to todays troubles?
Can something like this be good for anyone in any way?

By your spelling of Defense, I take it you could be closer to the trouble
than I am. I'm a little saddened that this is the sort of question that
could spring to mind.


Gaz



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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

Yes. The original post indicated that he had an ISDN BRI line from SW Bell.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Can't they share a ISDN line? Doesn't the protocol allow for 
> multiple ST
> devices assigned different endpoints on the same circuit? 
> Most NT1s have
> multiple ST connections.
> 
> I'm only speaking from a theoretical standpoint and could be 
> completely way
> off base, but couldn't two routers share and single ISDN circuit.
> 
> A very fair B channel for each?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Two telephones have two telephony links... and they can be 
> linked together
> using a bus... but without POTS service, they can't call each 
> other, can
> they.  All the bus does is enable multiple ISDN devices to be able to
> connect to the ISDN service (which is provided either by a telco or a
> simulator).
> 
> And yes, I visited the URL you posted.  The ISDN BRI service 
> and ISDN cloud
> are key components of that excerpt.
> 
> 
>   -- Leigh Anne
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line 
> has one channel.
> > Did you visit the URL in my previous post?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> > > To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I
> > > take a little
> > > gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use
> > > one of these
> > > for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two
> > > telephones into the
> > > gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone
> > > service, no.  But I
> > > have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > Daniel Cotts
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > See the following:
> > > > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm
> > > >
> > > > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > > > device with
> > > > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > > > devices to
> > > > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not
> > > done this but
> > > > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > > > interest in the
> > > > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems
> > > to be a very
> > > > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > > > seems to be
> > > > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > > > reveals discussions
> > > > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > > > anyone has actually
> > > > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > > > interest in doing this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > > > interfaces through
> > > > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1
> > > device with a
> > > > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > > > single ISDN line
> > > > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > > > device and practice
> > > > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

True but a crumbling economy doesn't do families much good either. 
Not necessary to focus on one aspect of rebuilding in exclusion of the
other, America is a great nation and we will overcome this tragedy.

  Dave

Juan Blanco wrote:
> 
> Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to save
> as many peoples as posible
> 
> My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
> 
> God bless america..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> 
> We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> families
> (if that can even be done??)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> number
> >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> terms of
> >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
> into
> >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> >
> >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> eventually
> >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> scratch, I
> >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> >sarcastically.
> >
> >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> weak
> >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> >
> >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> that
> >area are ok.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >sparkest pig
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> >Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> >
> >---
> -
> >
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> 
> 
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Cisco PIX 515 VPN Configuration ... [7:19457]

2001-09-11 Thread Bac Nguyen

Hi all,
I try to configured the 2 Cisco 515 PIX for site to site VPN and run in some
problem ... it does not passing the traffic for the VPN. I have searched the
Cisco site for sample configuration but that does not work or help much or I
might looking at the wrong place. 

If anyone know where I can get more information about the PIX for
site-to-site VPN configuration or if you have a "working" configuration that
you don't might to send me a copy. Thanks.

Bac




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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Rick Harville

Yes thats correct. I must be missing something cause I have set this up and
the second router sh isdn stat shows layer 3 spid invalid...

>>> "Daniel Cotts"  09/11/01 01:24PM >>>
Yes. The original post indicated that he had an ISDN BRI line from SW Bell.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Can't they share a ISDN line? Doesn't the protocol allow for 
> multiple ST
> devices assigned different endpoints on the same circuit? 
> Most NT1s have
> multiple ST connections.
> 
> I'm only speaking from a theoretical standpoint and could be 
> completely way
> off base, but couldn't two routers share and single ISDN circuit.
> 
> A very fair B channel for each?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Two telephones have two telephony links... and they can be 
> linked together
> using a bus... but without POTS service, they can't call each 
> other, can
> they.  All the bus does is enable multiple ISDN devices to be able to
> connect to the ISDN service (which is provided either by a telco or a
> simulator).
> 
> And yes, I visited the URL you posted.  The ISDN BRI service 
> and ISDN cloud
> are key components of that excerpt.
> 
> 
>   -- Leigh Anne
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> >
> >
> > Yes, but an ISDN BRI line has two B channels. A POTS line 
> has one channel.
> > Did you visit the URL in my previous post?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 AM
> > > To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me give you an analogy as to what you've described.  I
> > > take a little
> > > gizmo that splits my telephone outlet into two outlets (I use
> > > one of these
> > > for my answering machine and telephone).  I can plug two
> > > telephones into the
> > > gizmo, but can they call each other?  Without telephone
> > > service, no.  But I
> > > have my own bus where I can connect multiple telephony devices...
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > Daniel Cotts
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > See the following:
> > > > http://www.isdnzone.com/info/bri.htm 
> > > >
> > > > As I mentioned in a previous off line post, if you have an NT-1
> > > > device with
> > > > multiple connection points (s bus?) then you can connect several
> > > > devices to
> > > > it. Configure each with its own B channel SPID. I have not
> > > done this but
> > > > everything that I read indicates that it can be done. Try it.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > Subject: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> > > > > interest in the
> > > > > solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN line seems
> > > to be a very
> > > > > acceptable approach to simulating DDR. Unfortunately, nobody
> > > > > seems to be
> > > > > able to confirm that it can be done. A seach of archives
> > > > > reveals discussions
> > > > > but no real verification that this is possible. The p If
> > > > > anyone has actually
> > > > > done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> > > > > interest in doing this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> > > > > interfaces through
> > > > > a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1
> > > device with a
> > > > > single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> > > > > single ISDN line
> > > > > from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1
> > > > > device and practice
> > > > > my DDR with only one spid on each router.
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread McCallum, Robert

Absolutely tragic, the biggest fear now is how will the US retaliate to
this, this could become very nasty

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 September 2001 18:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning, into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>
>
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread John Neiberger

Wow  I think that might be a little harsh considering the tone of
the post this is referring to.  I think we are all worried about the
people and families involved.  It would be an understatement to call
this a catastrophe.  However, those buildings were targeted for a reason
and it's not being insensitive to consider the economic implications of
what has happened.

We're not just worried about how this will affect the number of toys we
can buy.  Damage to the economy translates to loss of jobs.  I don't
feel that it's insensitive to be concerned about this as well.  There
are short-term and long-term implications and we need to consider them
all.

With that said, the economy will withstand and recover from whatever
happens today, but the damage to the families involved is irreparable.

John

>>> "Steve Smith"  9/11/01 12:22:35 PM >>>
Sorry Priscilla, but until "adults" realize that your own selfish, buy
what you want, do what makes you happy, your needs are alot more
important than anyone else's, immature, can't sacrifice my feelings
and
what I want to do is more important than any spouse or child,
attitudes
change, it ain't gonna happen.

But some of us still remain. :>

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>---
-
>
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com 


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Re: PIX out of a PC.... [7:19419]

2001-09-11 Thread Gary Crouch

I currently have a PIX 1000 that has a bad motherboard\CPU and I am planing
to
upgrade it
the only difference is that the Intel boards have PIX flash code burned in to
the BOIS
to make a PIX firewall all you should need is the BIOS loader with the PIX
code and a flash card.
you can buy a new 16 meg flash card for about $800 it comes with 5.1 code
already installed.
or you can look for someone that has upgraded and willing to sell their old
card.
I have a source for $780.00 if anyone is interested.


>>> "Patrick Ramsey"  09/11/01 08:20AM >>>
Were the directions ever posted?

It almost seems as if the original poster was blowing smoke..  What gives?

I mean even the newest pix boxes are still intel based... but that doesn't
mean I can use my old pentium as a pix.

Anybody have a clue on this?

-Patrick
I currently have a PIX 1000 that has a bad motherboard\CPU and I am
planing to upgrade itthe only difference is that the Intel boards have
PIX flash code burned in to the BOISto make a PIX firewall all you should
need is the BIOS loader with the PIX code and a flash card.you can buy a
new 16 meg flash card for about $800 it comes with 5.1 code already
installed.or you can look for someone that has upgraded and willing to
sell their old card.I have a source for $780.00 if anyone is interested.

>>> "Patrick Ramsey"  09/11/01 08:20AM >>>
Were the directions ever posted?

It almost seems as if the original poster was blowing smoke..  What
gives?

I mean even the newest pix boxes are still intel based... but that
doesn't
mean I can use my old pentium as a pix.

Anybody have a clue on this?

-Patrick




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Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]

2001-09-11 Thread Dr Rita Puzmanova

...hope you are all OK there...

Damn the terrorists :-(((

Rita




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Holloway

May He bless you and yours also B.J.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
B.J. Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this incredible
loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of rebuilding
our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.  As
far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made sure
my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
praying?


- Original Message -
From: "Juan Blanco"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


> Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
save
> as many peoples as posible
>
> My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
>
> God bless america..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
> We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> families
> (if that can even be done??)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> number
> >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> terms of
> >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
> into
> >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> >
> >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> eventually
> >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> scratch, I
> >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> >sarcastically.
> >
> >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> weak
> >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> >
> >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> that
> >area are ok.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >sparkest pig
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> >Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> >
> >---
> -
> >
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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AT&T Telco response to the terrorist attack [7:19466]

2001-09-11 Thread Hennen, David

Regarding this terrible tragedy, this message from AT&T was circulated to
the network staff at my company.  I thought it might be of interest to the
group

dave h

Subject: AT&T Code YELLOWURGENT!!


All AT&T provisioning and cutovers are cancelled.

AT&T has moved to code YELLOW.

2.07 Condition YELLOW: can be implemented when the Government's emergency
action procedures have been placed in a "readiness" posture. This alert will
be used when a military or political situation deteriorates.  It envisions a
period of indefinite length and scope.
 A. All CONDITION GRAY restrictions invoked by the NOC shall be 
>  followed.  In addition to those precautions, the following
>  security measures should be observed as well as any measures
>  the NOC may add.
> 
>   B. All critical locations require 7X24 guard and Network
>  Operations coverage.  This includes 7X24 security guards
>  stationed outside of all critical building entry points.
> 
>   C. All major facility locations (more than 250 T3s) and all 
>  international cable landings, to have either 7X24 guard
>  coverage or 7X24 Network Operations coverage.
> 
>   D. All other locations should have coverage not less than which 
>  is considered "normal".
> 
>   E. The Network Operations Center (NOC), the Regional Network 
>  Operations Centers (RNOCs), the Network Control Centers
>  (NCCs) and the National Electronic System Assistance Centers
>  (NESACs) will have 7X24 coverage.
> 
>   F. For locations with dedicated Government services, e.g. FTS-
>  2000, DCTN, etc., ensure that the coverage meets at least
>  minimum required coverage.
>  
>   G. Consideration shall be given to increasing the frequency of 
>  patrols to once each 12 hours to cover critical locations,
>  if consistent with the safety of the personnel.




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Steve Smith

OK John, you caught me.in a mood. Apologies to Priscilla. As you
stated this is a horrific tragedy. We, the U.S., will over come this as
we have multiple  times in our history. In the city we are in they are
closing malls, schools, DOWNTOWN. It's crappy that people are running
around worried that they can not go to the mall tonight. Live is real
tuff. I sent that while thinking, what's wrong with people these days,
do they not grasp what is REALLY important in life? Friends, family,
spirituality, and life are way more important than shopping for shoes.

So, sorry group! Don't sweat the economy. We will over come. Hug you
kids, spouse, dog or cat when you get home and be glad you can.

God Bless.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Wow  I think that might be a little harsh considering the tone of
the post this is referring to.  I think we are all worried about the
people and families involved.  It would be an understatement to call
this a catastrophe.  However, those buildings were targeted for a reason
and it's not being insensitive to consider the economic implications of
what has happened.

We're not just worried about how this will affect the number of toys we
can buy.  Damage to the economy translates to loss of jobs.  I don't
feel that it's insensitive to be concerned about this as well.  There
are short-term and long-term implications and we need to consider them
all.

With that said, the economy will withstand and recover from whatever
happens today, but the damage to the families involved is irreparable.

John

>>> "Steve Smith"  9/11/01 12:22:35 PM >>>
Sorry Priscilla, but until "adults" realize that your own selfish, buy
what you want, do what makes you happy, your needs are alot more
important than anyone else's, immature, can't sacrifice my feelings
and
what I want to do is more important than any spouse or child,
attitudes
change, it ain't gonna happen.

But some of us still remain. :>

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
families 
(if that can even be done??)

Priscilla

At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
>of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
>probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
terms of
>investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
>straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
into
>corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
>
>yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
>mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
>survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
scratch, I
>would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
>sarcastically.
>
>this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
weak
>as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
>
>hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
that
>area are ok.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
>sparkest pig
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
>Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
>Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
>
>---
-
>
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com 


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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:-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-11 Thread Rene Schmid

best wishes from austria

last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york and wtc
vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack

hope  that most of the people are OK

Rene




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Re: PIX Default Behaviour incorrect? [7:19439]

2001-09-11 Thread FRANK

I had a similar problem as yours. I don't know if this is the solution for
you but I took out the mtu statements and then everything was fine.

Thanks,

Frank



""Pierre-Alex""  wrote in message
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> I am using Firewall with software version 4.07 with the configuration
below:
>
> My clients can ping any address on the Internet but cannot use FTP, Telnet
> or not even a Web browser
>
> Pinging by name works fine!
>
> Am I missing something in my configs. I thought by that default the
clients
> would have access to anything
>
> on the outside, while no one could access things on the inside. Am I
wrong?
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
> PIX Version 4.0.7to PIX
> enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
> syslog output 20.3
> no syslog console
> interface ethernet outside 10baset
> interface ethernet inside 10baset
> ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
> ip address outside 108.145.86.53 255.255.255.0
> arp timeout 14400
> global 1 108.145.86.52-108.145.86.52
> nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
> age 10
> no rip outside passive
> no rip outside default
> no rip inside passive
> no rip inside default
> route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 108.145.86.1 1
> timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
> timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
> no snmp-server location
> no snmp-server contact
> mtu outside 1500
> mtu inside 1500
> : end
> [OK]




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question RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Hennen, David

If up to 8 devices can share the BRI line do they all get a Terminal
Endpoint Identifier or do they request one only when they need to be active?


If there are only 62 (64 through 126) I think an ISDN switch would quickly
find the TEI pool exhausted.

Curious...
dave h

below is from an ISDN tutorial at www.ralphb.net/ISDN

The Layer 2 establishment process is very similar to the X.25 LAP-B setup,
if you are familiar with it. 
The TE (Terminal Endpoint) and the Network initially exchange Receive Ready
(RR) frames, listening for someone to initiate a connection 
The TE sends an Unnumbered Information (UI) frame with a SAPI of 63
(management procedure, query network) and TEI of 127 (broadcast) 
The Network assigns an available TEI (in the range 64-126) 
The TE sends a Set Asynchronous Balanced Mode (SABME) frame with a SAPI of 0
(call control, used to initiate a SETUP) and a TEI of the value assigned by
the network 
The network responds with an Unnumbered Acknowledgement (UA), SAPI=0,
TEI=assigned. 
At this point, the connection is ready for a Layer 3 setup. 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]


If you follow Chucks advice the posting listed below is a good guide on how
to split B channels

Re: ISDN B-channel splitting posted 03/23/2000

Rick Harville wrote:
> 
> I have received several responses sofar expressing a great
> interest in the solution. Back to back ISDN over a single ISDN
> line seems to be a very acceptable approach to simulating DDR.
> Unfortunately, nobody seems to be able to confirm that it can
> be done. A seach of archives reveals discussions but no real
> verification that this is possible. The p If anyone has
> actually done this please respond as there seems to be a great
> interest in doing this.
> 
> Once again, the question is, can you connect two BRI (st)
> interfaces through a NT1 device using only a single ISDN line?
> 
> I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device
> with a
> single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a
> single ISDN line
> from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device
> and practice
> my DDR with only one spid on each router.




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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Craig Richardson

I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...

Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
although
I have observed it for awhile.  Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
range,
but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
everyone's
opinion as their own.  Terrible tragedies have been suffered today, and many
lives are now changed forever.  As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
families
is irreparable.  However, to think that "if God existed, this incredible
loss of life
wouldn't have occurred in the first place", is to say that that the devil
does not
exist.  God is very real and He does exist.  Unfortunately, the devil is
very real also,
and he does exist.  Many people think that the devil is a mythical figure
that has
nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the good
and the bad
things.  The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his desire
that anyone of us
should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil.  Every
opportunity he gets,
he seeks to devour.  God works through his people and He is patient.
Tragedies do
occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God.  When we pray, our
prayers do make
a difference as God hears our prayers.  The "we" that I'm talking about is
those that believe
on His son, Jesus Christ.  There is a spiritual war going on that must not
be overlooked.
Todays events are part of this war.  The bible says it all.  These are the
"end times" that we
are in.  It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us to
realize that we do need a
saviour, and He is Jesus Christ.  Please check Romans 14:10, 12/Ephesians
2:8,9/
Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10.  Also, the book of Revelations
tells much
about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time).  Prayer,
along with using all
available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long way.
Thank you.

Craig.

- Original Message -
From: B.J. Wilson 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


> Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this incredible
> loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
> our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.  As
> far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
sure
> my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
> praying?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Juan Blanco"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> > Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> > about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> > families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
> save
> > as many peoples as posible
> >
> > My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
> >
> > God bless america..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> > We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> > families
> > (if that can even be done??)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> > >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> > number
> > >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> > >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> > terms of
> > >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> > >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
> > into
> > >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> > >
> > >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> > eventually
> > >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> > >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> > scratch, I
> > >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> > >sarcastically.
> > >
> > >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> > weak
> > >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> > >
> > >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> > that
> > >area are ok.
> > >
> > >Chuck
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >sparkest pig
> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> > >
> > >
> > >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> > >Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> > >
> > >---
> > -
> > >
> > >Get your FREE download of 

Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

2001-09-11 Thread Russ Kreigh

Hello all -

I need to bridge E1 to S1 on a router, and route E0 to S0, how can I do
this? This router config is the same on each end.


END A  END B

E0-S0  --  S0-E0
E1-S1  --  S1-E1 (Bridge)

Thanks

-Russ




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Re: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381]

2001-09-11 Thread MikeN

You will need to disable the SMTP fixup protocol. It doesn't work with
Exchange.

MikeN

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> hi all,
>
> how to configurate the pix, so that a mail server (NT 4 w/ Exchange) can
> communicate with other mail servers on the Internet behind the pix?
>
> thx. adv.
> roy




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RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

Can you post your router configs? Also can you provide the output of a show
isdn stat for each router?

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Harville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Back to back ISDN [7:19414]
> 
> 
> Yes thats correct. I must be missing something cause I have 
> set this up and
> the second router sh isdn stat shows layer 3 spid invalid...




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Re: Cisco PIX 515 VPN Configuration ... [7:19457]

2001-09-11 Thread MikeN

Here is a working sample that I have used.

PIX config PIX to PIX using 5.1.2

Site #1

access-list 101 permit ip 10.2.0.0 255.255.255.0 10.3.0.0 255.255.255.0
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
NAT (inside) 0 access-list 101
crypto ipsec transform-set strong esp-des esp-sha-hmac
crypto map remote 10 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map remote 10 match address 101
crypto map remote 10 set peer 10.5.1.2
crypto map remote 10 set transform-set strong
crypto map remote interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp key know1234 address 10.5.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255
isakmp policy 5 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 5 encryption des
isakmp policy 5 hash sha
isakmp policy 5 group 1
isakmp policy 5 lifetime 86400

Site 2

access-list 101 permit ip 10.3.0.0 255.255.255.0 10.2.0.0 255.255.255.0
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
NAT (inside) 0 access-list 101
crypto ipsec transform-set strong esp-des esp-sha-hmac
crypto map remote 10 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map remote 10 match address 101
crypto map remote 10 set peer 10.1.2.1
crypto map remote 10 set transform-set strong
crypto map remote interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp key know1234 address 10.1.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.255
isakmp policy 5 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 5 encryption des
isakmp policy 5 hash sha
isakmp policy 5 group 1
isakmp policy 5 lifetime 86400

The only trick is to make sure that the ACL's used to specify interesting
traffic are a mirror of each other.

MikeN

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> Hi all,
> I try to configured the 2 Cisco 515 PIX for site to site VPN and run in
some
> problem ... it does not passing the traffic for the VPN. I have searched
the
> Cisco site for sample configuration but that does not work or help much or
I
> might looking at the wrong place.
>
> If anyone know where I can get more information about the PIX for
> site-to-site VPN configuration or if you have a "working" configuration
that
> you don't might to send me a copy. Thanks.
>
> Bac




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Re: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]

2001-09-11 Thread Francisco deAmorim

Thanks


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> ...hope you are all OK there...
>
> Damn the terrorists :-(((
>
> Rita




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Re: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381]

2001-09-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Wasn't this fixed with the new code?

-Patrick

>>> "MikeN"  09/11/01 04:34PM >>>
You will need to disable the SMTP fixup protocol. It doesn't work with
Exchange.

MikeN

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>
> how to configurate the pix, so that a mail server (NT 4 w/ Exchange) can
> communicate with other mail servers on the Internet behind the pix?
>
> thx. adv.
> roy




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Dial Backup Routing??? [7:19478]

2001-09-11 Thread Andy Davidson

Hello group!
I have a network that is set up in a hub and spoke arrangement. We have 10
remote offices with 3-5 users at each location, and 1 data center which
controls all internet access, file and printer sharing and email services.
Our teleco arrangemet is as follows.

Data Center: 1 Frame relay T1 with subinterfaces to 7 remote offices at
speeds of 56K and 128K.
   1 AT&T T1 that goes into a channel bank where the
other 3 remote sites get 56K lines and then the rest of the channels of the
T1 are dedicated to voice.
Hardware Cisco 2522

Remote Sites:56k or 128k data circuits either frame or Point to Point.
Hardware is Cisco 1600

My Question!!!: Is there a way to have a modem connection on the 1600's that
dials up the 2522 when the circuit goes down? We currently have no backup
for our data connection and I think that this is a major problem. (Circuits
can go down  and with no communication to the ERP system, phones ring off
the hook) Cost of course is a major issue, as funding is currently very
limited. Possibly a $2500 budget?

We do have phone lines into the remote sites that could be used to dial out
from.

I am looking for a solution that would maybe use modems on the 1600's and
some sort of a modem pool or modem bank to receive all the connections in
the case of a major outage at the data center on the 2522.

If this is possible, please let me know how you would do it!! Also if you
have any reccomendations for modem banks or pools that would send the
authentication requests to our 2522 that would be great!

Thanks in advance for your replies..

Andy Davidson




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RE: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

2001-09-11 Thread Jim Brown

int e0
ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y

int e1
bridge-group 1

int s0
ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y

int s1
bridge-group 1


bridge 1 protocol ieee (or dec)



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From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]


Hello all -

I need to bridge E1 to S1 on a router, and route E0 to S0, how can I do
this? This router config is the same on each end.


END A  END B

E0-S0  --  S0-E0
E1-S1  --  S1-E1 (Bridge)

Thanks

-Russ




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RE: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381]

2001-09-11 Thread Dwayne Cann

I think it was. I am using smtp fixup with an nt email server behind a pix.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381]


Wasn't this fixed with the new code?

-Patrick

>>> "MikeN"  09/11/01 04:34PM >>>
You will need to disable the SMTP fixup protocol. It doesn't work with
Exchange.

MikeN

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>
> how to configurate the pix, so that a mail server (NT 4 w/ Exchange) can
> communicate with other mail servers on the Internet behind the pix?
>
> thx. adv.
> roy




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-11 Thread Symon Thurlow

pushing religion is pushing the limits of acceptable OT converstaion IMHO

My deepest sympathy to those affected by this series of atrocities. A few
weeks ago, a car bomb went off just up the road from my place (West London),
and I thought that was a wake up call the scale of this disaster is just
incomprehensible.

Symon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Craig Richardson
Sent: 11 September 2001 21:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...

Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
although
I have observed it for awhile.  Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
range,
but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
everyone's
opinion as their own.  Terrible tragedies have been suffered today, and many
lives are now changed forever.  As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
families
is irreparable.  However, to think that "if God existed, this incredible
loss of life
wouldn't have occurred in the first place", is to say that that the devil
does not
exist.  God is very real and He does exist.  Unfortunately, the devil is
very real also,
and he does exist.  Many people think that the devil is a mythical figure
that has
nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the good
and the bad
things.  The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his desire
that anyone of us
should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil.  Every
opportunity he gets,
he seeks to devour.  God works through his people and He is patient.
Tragedies do
occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God.  When we pray, our
prayers do make
a difference as God hears our prayers.  The "we" that I'm talking about is
those that believe
on His son, Jesus Christ.  There is a spiritual war going on that must not
be overlooked.
Todays events are part of this war.  The bible says it all.  These are the
"end times" that we
are in.  It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us to
realize that we do need a
saviour, and He is Jesus Christ.  Please check Romans 14:10, 12/Ephesians
2:8,9/
Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10.  Also, the book of Revelations
tells much
about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time).  Prayer,
along with using all
available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long way.
Thank you.

Craig.

- Original Message -
From: B.J. Wilson
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


> Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this incredible
> loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
> our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.  As
> far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
sure
> my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
> praying?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Juan Blanco"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> > Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> > about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> > families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
> save
> > as many peoples as posible
> >
> > My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
> >
> > God bless america..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> > We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> > families
> > (if that can even be done??)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> > >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> > number
> > >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> > >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> > terms of
> > >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
> > >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
> > into
> > >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> > >
> > >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> > eventually
> > >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> > >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> > scratch, I
> > >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> > >sarcastically.
> > >
> > >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> > weak
> > >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> > >
> > >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> > that
> > >area are ok.
> > >
> > >C

Re: PIX Firewall [7:19434]

2001-09-11 Thread Sean Young

conduit permit ip any any

>From: "Pierre-Alex" >Reply-To: "Pierre-Alex" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: PIX Firewall [7:19434] >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:57:14 -0400 >
>For testing purpose I want to open all the ports of my firewall. > >The
firewall uses software version 4.07 and uses conduit statements. > >I
have tried many statements but nothing works. > >Can you help? >
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Re: Dial Backup Routing??? [7:19478]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

You sure can, this is a good URL showing how to conifigure your aux
ports and set up the chat scripts that make it happen.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/471/aux-aux-watch.html

  Dave

Andy Davidson wrote:
> 
> Hello group!
> I have a network that is set up in a hub and spoke arrangement. We have 10
> remote offices with 3-5 users at each location, and 1 data center which
> controls all internet access, file and printer sharing and email services.
> Our teleco arrangemet is as follows.
> 
> Data Center: 1 Frame relay T1 with subinterfaces to 7 remote offices at
> speeds of 56K and 128K.
>1 AT&T T1 that goes into a channel bank where
the
> other 3 remote sites get 56K lines and then the rest of the channels of the
> T1 are dedicated to voice.
> Hardware Cisco 2522
> 
> Remote Sites:56k or 128k data circuits either frame or Point to Point.
> Hardware is Cisco 1600
> 
> My Question!!!: Is there a way to have a modem connection on the 1600's
that
> dials up the 2522 when the circuit goes down? We currently have no backup
> for our data connection and I think that this is a major problem. (Circuits
> can go down  and with no communication to the ERP system, phones ring off
> the hook) Cost of course is a major issue, as funding is currently very
> limited. Possibly a $2500 budget?
> 
> We do have phone lines into the remote sites that could be used to dial out
> from.
> 
> I am looking for a solution that would maybe use modems on the 1600's and
> some sort of a modem pool or modem bank to receive all the connections in
> the case of a major outage at the data center on the 2522.
> 
> If this is possible, please let me know how you would do it!! Also if you
> have any reccomendations for modem banks or pools that would send the
> authentication requests to our 2522 that would be great!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your replies..
> 
> Andy Davidson
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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank You Rene, and also Rita.
I am in shock. There are many people on this list who worked in those
buildings, and many more with friends and family there. 
I just heard from my first friend who was there and made it home. 
I'm sitting here watching my email and waiting for my phone to ring. 
Besides my friends and associates who are there, I can't help to think of
the thousands and thousands of faces I've past in those hallways,
escalators, offices, etc. 

-Erik Mintz

Rene Schmid writes:

> best wishes from austria
> 
> last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york and
wtc
> vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
> 
> hope  that most of the people are OK
> 
> Rene




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Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

ME thinks Russ wants to bridge and route the same protocol in which
case that won't work.  Check IRB, integrated routing and bridging.  I
have used IRB to bridge IP/IPX from one interface to another in the same
router but never in the scenerio you describe.

  Dave

Jim Brown wrote:
> 
> int e0
> ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
> 
> int e1
> bridge-group 1
> 
> int s0
> ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
> 
> int s1
> bridge-group 1
> 
> bridge 1 protocol ieee (or dec)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]
> 
> Hello all -
> 
> I need to bridge E1 to S1 on a router, and route E0 to S0, how can I do
> this? This router config is the same on each end.
> 
> END A  END B
> 
> E0-S0  --  S0-E0
> E1-S1  --  S1-E1 (Bridge)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Russ
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IPexpert.net [7:19486]

2001-09-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,

I am interested in getting the IPexpert lab exercises?  Anybody who is
willing to give can send me a mail and make a deal...


Thanks
Rajesh

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SNMP on virtual interfaces [7:19488]

2001-09-11 Thread Sean Knox

How does the Cisco MIB account for SNMP polling on virtual interfaces? I
tried to find some general information regarding SNMP + virtual interfaces
on Cisco's site, but was unable to find any. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Sean




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ARPing - is this right? [7:19489]

2001-09-11 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'm trying to describe the ARPing process.  It something I've always taken
for granted, but now I'm trying to actually write it down.  Let me know your
thoughts...

When a workstation attempts to communicate with an IP address it follows
this process:

IP devices maintain an ARP cache that store any recently acquired IP-to-MAC
address combinations.  If the appropriate address is there, communication is
established.

If the IP address is not in the local ARP table, the source host will send
an ARP request packet containing the Network-layer address, seeking to be
resolve it to a MAC-layer address for the desired destination. 

All hosts on the network receive this request, but only the host with the
specified network address will respond.  If present and functioning, the
host with the specified address responds with an ARP Reply packet containing
its MAC-layer address.  The originating device receives the ARP Reply
packet, stores the MAC/IP address combination its ARP cache for future use,
and begins exchanging packets with the host.

If the host is not on the local network, the router on the local network
will look up the network address in its route table and if it finds a match,
it will return the MAC address of its local interface to the ARP-ing source
station.




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Re: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]

2001-09-11 Thread hal9001

As an Ex-Police Officer who had to put up with the IRA scum bombing us in
Great Britain over the years can I express my deepest sympathy for those who
have lost ones and those who's lives will be forever changed.  I too hope
you are all OK.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "Francisco deAmorim" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]


> Thanks
>
>
> ""Dr Rita Puzmanova""  wrote in message
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> > ...hope you are all OK there...
> >
> > Damn the terrorists :-(((
> >
> > Rita




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