Specific BGP Question [7:58428]

2002-12-02 Thread Jim Devane
Hello all,
 
Long time lurker, first time poster.
 
I have a router that is multi-homed between 16631 and 701.
I have a new client who is buying transit from us.
They are multi-homed to us and 1239.
A business decision was made to policy route their traffic out 16631. 
As a result I will only publish 16631 routes to them. 
However, if 16631 goes away, I want to be able to push the 701 routes to
them.
Injecting a default wouldn't be very effective here since 1239 will most
likely have a more specific route!
So Conditional Adv to the rescue. However..I have a few questions I am
unsure about and I don't have a lab to try it out on.
 
In this config:
 
router bgp 
nei New_Client remote-as Client_AS
nei New_Client filter-list 4 in 
nei New_Client filter-list 3 out
 
ip as path access-list 3 permit .*
ip as-path access-list 4 permit ^Client_AS$
 
so far so good
I want to add this...
 
nei New_Client advertise-map MAP1 non-exist-map MAP2
 
route-map MAP1 permit 10
match as-path 5
route-map MAP2 permit 10
match as-path 6
 
ip as-path access-list 5 ^$ _16631_
ip as-path access-list 6 ^$ _701_
 
 
SO NOW THE QUESTIONS!!!
 
1) What is the order of operation for the advertisement out? Will the
Filter-list showing all routes cancel any effect of the route-map?
2) Are the MAP1 and MAP2 route maps valid in this config because they use
as-path? The config's I could find as example were based on Prefix. I made
up the part about using the as-path, but it seems logical (boy, I wish I had
a couple extra routers!)
3) Is there a better way to go about this!
 
Thanks in advance. And thanks to everybody who posts. I have taken away a
lot from this mailing-list!
 
Jim



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RE: Collision [7:58389]

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Cliff
Today, We are put 3660 router to their end, having Fastethernet card, and
connected to their switch.

They change their switch port as following:

interface FastEthernet0/14 
load-interval 30 
duplex full

so far, after observe serveral hours, there is no collision as well as not
error message in our router.

So, what's wrong? Is the fastethernet is better? or previous setting that I
have is wrong?


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Re: configure spanning tree mode [7:58365]

2002-12-02 Thread Kevin GU
What is your current configuration? Could you paste here? So that we could
take a look.


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Re: Arp table - very strange [7:58404]

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Cliff
I know that this is the default value in cisco 2950.

The following is my Q:

>Actually from my knowledge, the arp table should contains only local >arp
table. But I find that there are some external address on my arp >table.
WHY? Really not understanding? Is my config for VLAN is >wrong?


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RE: can't ping the Sc0 interface ip address [7:58383]

2002-12-02 Thread Kevin GU
Thanks for your help. I found the problem. I'd put the Sc0 into different
vlan. ;o). Sorry for trouble you. After join the same vlan, it works.


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rate-limit question [7:58423]

2002-12-02 Thread William Lijewski
For rate-limit, is there a default "exceed-action" ?  I have been looking in
the documents and all of the configs I seem to find all have the
"exceed-action drop", what I am wondering is what happens if I leave the
exceed-action command off of the statement?  Do the packets that don't
conform still go through unchanged, or do they get dropped?

Thanks for the help.

Bill


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Regarding Router rental business? [7:58422]

2002-12-02 Thread wma2
Hi guys:
I and my freind just got tones of Cisco equipment, so now we not
sure to sale them or
start an online lab business.
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4.What sort of equipment do most perfer to work on?


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RE: FXO ports to connect two PBX's [7:58410]

2002-12-02 Thread Mark W. Odette II
If you have FXS ports on the PBX, then the answer is yes; but as far as
I know, you will either have FXO or E&M ports on the PBX, which means
you need FXS ports on the Routers for the FXO "Cross-Connect", or E&M
ports to cross-connect to the E&M ports on the PBX... don't quote me on
the E&M ports though... it's been quite a while since I looked into E&M
configurations... :)

Of course, once you put the FXS ports on the Routers, you'll need to
develop a dial-plan for routing between the two routers over the FR
link(s).

Good Luck!

-Mark

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Subject: FXO ports to connect two PBX's [7:58410]

Hi All,

Can we use FXO ports in routers to connect two locations with PBX's. I
have
PBX at locaton "A", and a PBX and location "B". I want to run VoIP
between
the two locations over Frame Relay link. Can I use FXO cards in the
Router
on Location "A" and FXO on the router at location "B" and have VoIP run
between the sites.

The setup would look like this PBX to FXO --Frame
Relay FXO to PBX.
Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil K.




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Re: configure spanning tree mode [7:58365]

2002-12-02 Thread Larry Letterman
yes...
cat switch os,  6509, 4000, 5000

# set spantree enable all

cat switch 2924, 3524, etc
spanning tree is on by default for all ports

(config)# no spanningtree

The above command should turn it off

Larry



puro prasad wrote:

>anyone, any info!!!




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RE: configure spanning tree mode [7:58365]

2002-12-02 Thread puro prasad
anyone, any info!!!


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Question on CCIE lab equipment? [7:58414]

2002-12-02 Thread Jason Viera
Does anyone know the current number of ATM, Ethernet, Serial, Token, FXS,
FXO, etc, that are in the current R&S Lab?
Even though the Token Ring switching was removed from the lab, are there
still Token Ring interfaces in the Lab?
Are there really FXS and FXO interfaces in the lab?
Just trying to get some insight on the possible scenarios the lab might
present based on the number of each interface type.
TIA, Jason




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Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]

2002-12-02 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great?  The 4000 doesn't
support the NP-4T  only the NP-2T.

Jarett

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Re: QOS on 40003 [7:58412]

2002-12-02 Thread B.J. Wilson
> I am configuring QOS for Video-Conference on my CAT 4003.
> I would like to know what IP precedence numbers I can use to classify the
> video traffic.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configuratio
n_guide_book09186a00800c5e31.html

CCO is your friend.

BJ




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QOS on 40003 [7:58412]

2002-12-02 Thread johnman johnman
I am configuring QOS for Video-Conference on my CAT 4003.
I would like to know what IP precedence numbers I can use to classify the 
video traffic.



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Re: CCIE written [7:58400]

2002-12-02 Thread neil K.
It is very difficult, although the passing score is low ( less than 60 %)
but you got to work really hard to pass it.

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FXO ports to connect two PBX's [7:58410]

2002-12-02 Thread neil K.
Hi All,

Can we use FXO ports in routers to connect two locations with PBX's. I have
PBX at locaton "A", and a PBX and location "B". I want to run VoIP between
the two locations over Frame Relay link. Can I use FXO cards in the Router
on Location "A" and FXO on the router at location "B" and have VoIP run
between the sites.

The setup would look like this PBX to FXO --Frame
Relay FXO to PBX.
Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil K.




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Monitoring SPF algorithm [7:58408]

2002-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a command that shows which router initiated a SPF recalculation?

I am looking for a command like 'show spantree statistics',  that shows
which device originated a BPDU Topology Change

Thanks




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Re: Arp table - very strange [7:58404]

2002-12-02 Thread Larry Letterman
I dont see what your issue is. you have ports in vlan 1 and ports in 
vlan 2...
If you are questioning the vlan 100X entries, thats the default vlans in 
cisco
switches that are reserved for other things like fddi/TRthey are 
always in the
vlan arp table.

Cliff Cliff wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>For my company, there are two equipment rooms, one is in upstair ad one is
>in downstair. So we are using fiber connecting these two floor equipments by
>using Cisco 2950 (which having 2 Fiber port) in both upstair and downstair.
>
>In cisco 2950, there are 24 ports, for some reason, I need to set 12 ports
>for VLAN1 (IP address A.B.C.0/24) andb 12 ports for VLAN2(E.F.G.0/24) in
>upstair cisco 2950. Note that port 25 is also VLAN1 and port 26 is VLAN2.
>The same applied to downstair cisco 2950 (Now we have two fibers connecting
>to upstair and downstair cisco 2950). The result why connected like this is
>we want to seperate the traffic for VLAN1 and VLAN2.
>
>The config is like this
>
>upstair and downstair cisco 2950 switch config
>==
>Port 1 to port 12:
>
>under interface FastEthernet0/1 to 0/12 - no special config (default)
>
>Port 13 to port 24:
>
>under interface FastEthernet0/13 to 0/24 - adding "switchport access vlan 2"
>
>Assign ip address for upstair cisco 2950:
>
>interface VLAN1
> ip address A.B.C.1 255.255.255.0
>
>Assign ip address for downstair cisco 2950:
>
>interface VLAN1
> ip address A.B.C.2 255.255.255.0
>
>But when I issue a command show arp, I see very strange situation.
>
>Actually from my knowledge, the arp table should contains only local arp
>table. But I find that there are some external address on my arp table. WHY?
>Really not understanding? Is my config for VLAN is wrong?
>
>Also when I issue a command "show vlan brief", I get the following output:
>
>VLAN  Name   StatusPorts
> - --
>1default activeFa0/1,Fa0/2, ... ,Fa0/12,Fa0/25
>2VLAN0002activeFa0/13,Fa0/14, ... , Fa0/24, Fa0/26
>1002 fddi-defaultactive
>1003 token-ring-default  active
>1004 fddinet-default active
>1005 trnet-default   active
>
>which I believe that I am not setting wrong for VLAN. Any comment or
>suggestion? Thx!




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Re: CCIE written [7:58400]

2002-12-02 Thread JJ Angleton
The written is very hard.  Take a look at the www.groupstudy.com archives
and you'll find a lot of information about the proper books and prep
materials to start studying from.
 saj  wrote: Hi,
Just want to know whether anyone has attempted CCIE
theory and lab recently.Whether there are any
changes.How hard is the CCIE written?
Thanks.
Saj

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Arp table - very strange [7:58404]

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Cliff
Dear all,

For my company, there are two equipment rooms, one is in upstair ad one is
in downstair. So we are using fiber connecting these two floor equipments by
using Cisco 2950 (which having 2 Fiber port) in both upstair and downstair.

In cisco 2950, there are 24 ports, for some reason, I need to set 12 ports
for VLAN1 (IP address A.B.C.0/24) andb 12 ports for VLAN2(E.F.G.0/24) in
upstair cisco 2950. Note that port 25 is also VLAN1 and port 26 is VLAN2.
The same applied to downstair cisco 2950 (Now we have two fibers connecting
to upstair and downstair cisco 2950). The result why connected like this is
we want to seperate the traffic for VLAN1 and VLAN2.

The config is like this

upstair and downstair cisco 2950 switch config
==
Port 1 to port 12:

under interface FastEthernet0/1 to 0/12 - no special config (default)

Port 13 to port 24:

under interface FastEthernet0/13 to 0/24 - adding "switchport access vlan 2"

Assign ip address for upstair cisco 2950:

interface VLAN1
 ip address A.B.C.1 255.255.255.0

Assign ip address for downstair cisco 2950:

interface VLAN1
 ip address A.B.C.2 255.255.255.0

But when I issue a command show arp, I see very strange situation.

Actually from my knowledge, the arp table should contains only local arp
table. But I find that there are some external address on my arp table. WHY?
Really not understanding? Is my config for VLAN is wrong?

Also when I issue a command "show vlan brief", I get the following output:

VLAN  Name   StatusPorts
 - --
1default activeFa0/1,Fa0/2, ... ,Fa0/12,Fa0/25
2VLAN0002activeFa0/13,Fa0/14, ... , Fa0/24, Fa0/26
1002 fddi-defaultactive
1003 token-ring-default  active
1004 fddinet-default active
1005 trnet-default   active

which I believe that I am not setting wrong for VLAN. Any comment or
suggestion? Thx!



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Re: mutliple RIP processes [7:58392]

2002-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 4:09 PM + 12/2/02, p b wrote:
>Thanks.  I had expected that "router bgp ABC" and "router bgp XYZ"
>did in fact start two processes.  I hadn't tried applying a
>second "router bgp XYZ" to a config to confirm this worked.  But
>as you point out, this isn't allowed (supported) and the router
>reports the error:
>
>router(config)#router bgp 1234
>BGP is already running; AS is 123
>
>I'm surprised that multiple IS-IS processes are not supported (but
>I don't know diddley about IS-IS so...)   Any thoughts on why
>cisco decided to support multiple OSPF processes (or why other
>vendors did not)?

There's a lot of things unclear about Cisco's early OSPF. The first 
versions really didn't work, until a major rewrite about IOS 9.1(4). 
I don't know if Derek Yeung took it over then or later, but, until he 
left Cisco, was the main OSPF programmer.  I don't know if the 
multiple processes were one of the original ideas, possibly to 
preserve some of the pseudo-area feel of IGRP.

ISIS always worked, but it has a special advantage: almost every 
major implementation (early NSFNET and other research 
implementations, Cisco, and Juniper) were all designed and mostly 
coded by Dave Katz.

These are just guesses.

It is worth looking at putting a Zebra/LINUX box or two in your lab 
for extensive route generation, including routes with errors. 
Probably cheaper than non-EOL routers. Zebra is free.

>
>
>
>
>Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>>
>>  At 12:34 PM + 12/2/02, bergenpeak wrote:
>>  >Anyone know why one can run only a single RIP process on a
>>  cisco
>>  >router?
>>  >
>>  >Thanks
>>  >
>>
>>  I can't give you a precise reason, but some general comments.
>>
>>  RIP was never intended for large systems where you might be
>>  able to
>>  make use of multiple processes.  You could argue that having
>>  multiple
>>  IGRP processes was a way to add a primitive area structure, and
>>  then
>>  EIGRP needed compatibility.
>>
>>  Even among the more advanced protocols, the multiple process
>>  per
>>  router has rather little applicability.  OSPF is actually the
>>  exception in allowing multiple processes; BGP and ISIS do not.
>>
>>  AFAIK, no vendor other than Cisco ever implemented multiple
>>  OSPF
>>  processes. Wellfleet/Bay/Nortel definitely did not.
>>
>>  For things like performance benchmarking for the IETF and such,
>>  we
>>  most typically use Zebra or GateD UNIX boxes to generate
>>  traffic, or
>>  purpose-built high-speed testers. The high-speed testers
>>  typically
>>  don't really understand the protocol, but are playing back
>>  prerecorded traffic and responding to a very small set of
>>  messages.




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Re: Re: Test for MCast...Any?? [7:58269]

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Bernico
BJ,

That's a great idea actually.  I've never tested it and I don't have a
PC to try it on right now, but I think it's very likely to compile on
Cygwin.  Like I said, I can't try it, but if you do please let me know.



On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 08:50, B.J. Wilson wrote:
> Mike -
> 
> By any chance have you tested running your program on a Windows PC using
> Cygwin?  I'm not a Linux person (yet...), and I figured this might be a
> passable way for PC-based users to use MINT.
> 
> BJ
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> From: Mike Bernico 
> Sent: 12/02/02 09:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Test for MCast...Any?? [7:58269]
> 
> > If you'd just like to send some test multicast traffic and see if your
> receiving it elsewhere, you can try my multicast testing program at
> http://mc-mint.sourceforge.net  It's free under the GPL.  I very much
> doubt it will run under windows though, you probably would want to use
> Linux with it.  In my lab I used  two old 300 MHz PCs to generate
> traffic with it and I've been able to fill some pretty big pipes.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:18, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > Hello,Is there a way to test/practise MCast configs. on the Internet?
> > I
> > have a cable-modem connected to a 2514 router and would like to
> > configure
> > MCast on it as well as my Lab routers behind that for PIM-SM. I have a
> > laptop connected as a client to one of the routers. How can I verify
> > that
> > MCast is working on the laptop? I mean, is there a freeware/shareware
> >  application that I can install on my laptop to test (since I cannot
> > obviously have IP/TV client on my laptop).Or is there any other way to
> > do
> > it in the Lab routers themselves.Any basic configs/examples provided
> > is
> > greatfully appreciated.Thank you for your help.Sincerely,CN
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: can't ping the Sc0 interface ip address [7:58383]

2002-12-02 Thread s vermill
Kevin GU wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have a C4006 in the Local LAN already, all the while it is
> working fine. I need more ports for user device, so add one
> more c5009 switch.
> I've connected a C5009 and a C4006 switches with a cross cable
> on port 3/1. Set ip address 53.245.35.6/24 for C4006's Sc0
> interface. Set ip address 53.245.35.3/24 for C5009's Sc0
> interface. But I can't ping each other. I set the port to
> trunk. so the users connected to C5009 are able to access the
> whole network. But I still can't ping the Sc0 management IP
> address.
> Any one can help me? 


Did you set the default gateway?  I don't know if a switch will generate the
ICMP echo request without it.  I realize that we're talking layer two here
between the switches, but I seem to recall that a gateway needs to be set
regardless.  I'll experiment on a 6509 later today.


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Re: mutliple RIP processes [7:58392]

2002-12-02 Thread p b
Thanks.  I had expected that "router bgp ABC" and "router bgp XYZ"
did in fact start two processes.  I hadn't tried applying a 
second "router bgp XYZ" to a config to confirm this worked.  But
as you point out, this isn't allowed (supported) and the router
reports the error:

router(config)#router bgp 1234
BGP is already running; AS is 123

I'm surprised that multiple IS-IS processes are not supported (but
I don't know diddley about IS-IS so...)   Any thoughts on why
cisco decided to support multiple OSPF processes (or why other
vendors did not)?




Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> 
> At 12:34 PM + 12/2/02, bergenpeak wrote:
> >Anyone know why one can run only a single RIP process on a
> cisco
> >router?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> 
> I can't give you a precise reason, but some general comments.
> 
> RIP was never intended for large systems where you might be
> able to
> make use of multiple processes.  You could argue that having
> multiple
> IGRP processes was a way to add a primitive area structure, and
> then
> EIGRP needed compatibility.
> 
> Even among the more advanced protocols, the multiple process
> per
> router has rather little applicability.  OSPF is actually the 
> exception in allowing multiple processes; BGP and ISIS do not.
> 
> AFAIK, no vendor other than Cisco ever implemented multiple
> OSPF
> processes. Wellfleet/Bay/Nortel definitely did not.
> 
> For things like performance benchmarking for the IETF and such,
> we
> most typically use Zebra or GateD UNIX boxes to generate
> traffic, or
> purpose-built high-speed testers. The high-speed testers
> typically
> don't really understand the protocol, but are playing back 
> prerecorded traffic and responding to a very small set of
> messages.
> 
> 




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CCIE written [7:58400]

2002-12-02 Thread saj
Hi,
Just want to know whether anyone has attempted CCIE
theory and lab recently.Whether there are any
changes.How hard is the CCIE written?
Thanks.
Saj

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RE: RAS problem [7:58398]

2002-12-02 Thread Silju Pillai
Why dont you go for access-lists permiting only server addresses to access?

regards
Silju


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RAS problem [7:58398]

2002-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

There is a Mobile service provider company. The company has few application
engineer who make billing ,, They use company's server to generate the
certain
reports. Now these engineer are given a username and password and are
authenticated using the RAS. This RAS is also used to authenticate user to
access company routers. Now these user can access company routers. But Now
company realised that this should not happen. Now tell me how can they block
these engineers from using routers but at the same time allow them to access
the
servers.Is there any solution??

Pls provide any idea to fix the problem or any pointers in this regard will
be
of great help.!!!

Pls reply ASAP
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Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 1:44 PM + 12/2/02, Peter van Oene wrote:
>
>A general concept in routing is to always prefer information from the
>most accurate source.  In Link State routing, a given router always has
>the most accurate information about the area itself, and thus will
>always prefer information derived from there.  This mechanism also
>prevents loops.
>
>
>Issues like these often occur in OSPF.  Pat Murphy, in his NSSA drafts,
>refers to this phenomenon as "hijacking".  It is good to keep in mind
>that this only produces sub-optimalities, not routing instabilities.
>However, all routing impementations can be prone to sub-optimal routing
>if you do not optimally design the topology.  BGP confederations often
>suffer from this as the length of the AS-Confed-Sequence is not used in
>the BGP path selection algorithm.  
>
>
>
>>  Given the topology of area 0, little might be possible in avoiding
>  > the sub-optimal routing
>
>
>
>As hopefully I've pointed out, there really isn't a way in OSPF to iron
>out all the potential for sub-optimality that a given topology might
>present.  It is incumbent upon the designer to understand and design
>around, or live with these issues.
>
>

Good points, Peter.  I think one real-world nuance that doesn't come 
through in most routing classes is that people often worry too much 
about suboptimal routing and too little about instability.  With 
today's transmission technologies and router speeds, you can often 
solve the first by throwing bandwidth at the problem and 
"neutralizing" the suboptimality.

Instability, however, can kill your network, and, if on the Internet, 
other networks.

It's my impression that the CCIE test strategy overemphasizes 
optimality and underemphasizes stability. Certainly, some of the 
major reasons to use hierarchical redistribution, blackhole routes, 
minimizing information sent to routers, etc., are stability -- and 
these techniques are usually forbidden in the lab.

Sometimes I wonder if there needs to be a book or seminar, "OK, now 
you are a CCIE. This is what you need to unlearn."  ;-)




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Re: Re: Test for MCast...Any?? [7:58269]

2002-12-02 Thread B.J. Wilson
Mike -

By any chance have you tested running your program on a Windows PC using
Cygwin?  I'm not a Linux person (yet...), and I figured this might be a
passable way for PC-based users to use MINT.

BJ


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Subject: Re: Test for MCast...Any?? [7:58269]

> If you'd just like to send some test multicast traffic and see if your
receiving it elsewhere, you can try my multicast testing program at
http://mc-mint.sourceforge.net  It's free under the GPL.  I very much
doubt it will run under windows though, you probably would want to use
Linux with it.  In my lab I used  two old 300 MHz PCs to generate
traffic with it and I've been able to fill some pretty big pipes.

Mike


On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:18, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> Hello,Is there a way to test/practise MCast configs. on the Internet?
> I
> have a cable-modem connected to a 2514 router and would like to
> configure
> MCast on it as well as my Lab routers behind that for PIM-SM. I have a
> laptop connected as a client to one of the routers. How can I verify
> that
> MCast is working on the laptop? I mean, is there a freeware/shareware
>  application that I can install on my laptop to test (since I cannot
> obviously have IP/TV client on my laptop).Or is there any other way to
> do
> it in the Lab routers themselves.Any basic configs/examples provided
> is
> greatfully appreciated.Thank you for your help.Sincerely,CN
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Monitoring Bandwidth on ATM PVP's [7:58263]

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Bernico
I've used MRTG on our BPXs.  What type of ATM switch do you want to
monitor?  

On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 20:38, Steve Watson wrote:
> I use MRTG for my routers. Is there a similar tool that monitors cells
> and bandwidth on an ATM Network?
>  
> Steve




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Re: Test for MCast...Any?? [7:58269]

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Bernico
If you'd just like to send some test multicast traffic and see if your
receiving it elsewhere, you can try my multicast testing program at
http://mc-mint.sourceforge.net  It's free under the GPL.  I very much
doubt it will run under windows though, you probably would want to use
Linux with it.  In my lab I used  two old 300 MHz PCs to generate
traffic with it and I've been able to fill some pretty big pipes.

Mike


On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:18, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> Hello,Is there a way to test/practise MCast configs. on the Internet?
> I
> have a cable-modem connected to a 2514 router and would like to
> configure
> MCast on it as well as my Lab routers behind that for PIM-SM. I have a
> laptop connected as a client to one of the routers. How can I verify
> that
> MCast is working on the laptop? I mean, is there a freeware/shareware
>  application that I can install on my laptop to test (since I cannot
> obviously have IP/TV client on my laptop).Or is there any other way to
> do
> it in the Lab routers themselves.Any basic configs/examples provided
> is
> greatfully appreciated.Thank you for your help.Sincerely,CN
> 
> 
> 
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Re: mutliple RIP processes [7:58392]

2002-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 12:34 PM + 12/2/02, bergenpeak wrote:
>Anyone know why one can run only a single RIP process on a cisco
>router?
>
>Thanks
>

I can't give you a precise reason, but some general comments.

RIP was never intended for large systems where you might be able to 
make use of multiple processes.  You could argue that having multiple 
IGRP processes was a way to add a primitive area structure, and then 
EIGRP needed compatibility.

Even among the more advanced protocols, the multiple process per 
router has rather little applicability.  OSPF is actually the 
exception in allowing multiple processes; BGP and ISIS do not.

AFAIK, no vendor other than Cisco ever implemented multiple OSPF 
processes. Wellfleet/Bay/Nortel definitely did not.

For things like performance benchmarking for the IETF and such, we 
most typically use Zebra or GateD UNIX boxes to generate traffic, or 
purpose-built high-speed testers. The high-speed testers typically 
don't really understand the protocol, but are playing back 
prerecorded traffic and responding to a very small set of messages.




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Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-02 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 12:18, p b wrote:
> Peter van Oene wrote:
> > 
> > Non intra-area ASBRs are found via type 4 LSAs (ASBR Summary)
> > which
> > follow the same rules as type 3 summaries and thus prevent non
> > zero
> > areas from providing transit toward ASBRs (that is where the
> > non zero
> > area contains neither the source nor ASBR)
> 
> You're right.  I went back and looked at my lab config.  I 
> had had a link configured as non-0 when I thought it was in
> area 0.  Thus the incorrect conclusion regarding externals and
> non-0 areas for transit.
> 
> It's interesting that OSPF will, apparently, always prefer
> an OSPF intra-area path over an inter-area path to a destination,
> even when the inter-area path is less cost.  This has implications
> for certain area 0 topologies (ie a ring built from p2p links)
> and thus can result in sub-optimal paths for certain source
> routers and destinations.

A general concept in routing is to always prefer information from the
most accurate source.  In Link State routing, a given router always has
the most accurate information about the area itself, and thus will
always prefer information derived from there.  This mechanism also
prevents loops.

> 
> This would happen when a router, R, in area 0 is trying to reach
> a destination, D in a non-0 area, and there are two ABRs.  ABR_1
> and ABR_2 will install intra-area routes to the destination D.
> ABR_1 and ABR_2 will advertise into area 0 their costs to D
> via type 3 LSAs.  Router R will compute its cost to D through
> ABR_1 and ABR_2.  It might determine that ABR_2 is the prefered
> ABR through which R should route traffic to D.  However, if the
> path between R and ABR_2 causes the traffic to go through ABR_1,
> traffic from R to D will enter the non-0 area at ABR_1 (since 
> OSPF prefers intra-area paths over inter-area path, even if more
> expensive; ABR_1 thus installs the intra-area routes).  Thus,
> traffic from R->D takes a sub-optimal path.  Note this behvaior
> has nothing to do with summarization.

Issues like these often occur in OSPF.  Pat Murphy, in his NSSA drafts,
refers to this phenomenon as "hijacking".  It is good to keep in mind
that this only produces sub-optimalities, not routing instabilities. 
However, all routing impementations can be prone to sub-optimal routing
if you do not optimally design the topology.  BGP confederations often
suffer from this as the length of the AS-Confed-Sequence is not used in
the BGP path selection algorithm.   



> Given the topology of area 0, little might be possible in avoiding
> the sub-optimal routing

For ring topologies, I often mux the link between ABR_1 and ABR_2 
to provide two logical links.  If these are in a POP together, they
likely run GigE or something similar in which case one can simply use
802.1q over the link and present an Area 0 link along with a non
backbone link.  This helps in the enterprise case where summarization is
occuring, and also helps provide more optimal routing.  The only cost is
in IP addressing and a little more complexity.  Should POS be in use,
frame works well here in the same fashion.


.  However, R would know, when it computes
> its tree to D, that traffic will flow through ABR_1 to get to
> ABR_2.   Looking at the cost to D from router R (via show ip route)
> it shows the cost as if the path enters the non-0 area at ABR_2.
> However, this isn't the path traffic will follow.  

> Now, R has the information to make the determination that traffic
> will flow into the non-0 area at ABR_1.  Why would R not show the
> cost to D via ABR_1 as this is the path that traffic takes?  

Actually R doesn't have this information.  The SPF algorithm is used
within the area to find the minimal cost path to each node in the area. 
For an inter area destination, the already known cost to an ABR is
summed with the cost provided in the LSA to create an Inter Area Cost
(IAC) to the given destination, the least of which  (assuming there are
more than one for a given destination) is chosen and used for next-hop
selection.  At no point does the router calculate an SPF to the
inter-area destination specifically.  It also doesn't look deeply at the
composite nodes along a given path to determine whether or not they
happen to be ABRs themselves, and certainly not ABRs which happen to
provide transit to a particular area for which they might also be
deriving IACs to in another process.  Furthermore, they don't actually
even know which areas a given ABR provides transit to as this
information isn't relevant nor contained in a type3/4 LSA.

As hopefully I've pointed out, there really isn't a way in OSPF to iron
out all the potential for sub-optimality that a given topology might
present.  It is incumbent upon the designer to understand and architect
around, or live with these issues.


> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > > R2->ABR_1->R5->ABR_2->R3
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   The
> > > > > result with an ABR using non-zero summa

Re: Duplicate messages from GroupStudy Listserve [7:40077]

2002-12-02 Thread Richard Young
I have the same problem when I use MS Outlook and filters.  I had multiple
filters
configured to move email from certain senders into folders.  The Outlook was
copying the
email even though I configured it to only move the item. If you are using
filters in
your email program try disabling them to see if the problem is in your
client.  If you
are using Outlook, you might try Netscape communicator as a test.

Brian Zeitz wrote:

> Just ask the Moderator to use some Hold down Timers...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Duplicate messages from GroupStudy Listserve [7:40077]
>
> Perhaps your E-mail Client is having an issue, or your firewall is
> experiencing an issue similar to the issue reported with the Ciso PIX
> Firewal and SMTP Fixup.  Just a couple of ideas to look at.
>
> I occasionally experience a duplicate message from the GroupStudy
> server,
> but I think it may have something to do with duplicated submissions in
> the
> Moderators Que... of which they don't realize until its all said and
> done.
>
> Again, this only happens occasionally... not with every single message.
>
> HTHs
> -Mark
>
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> Andy Barkl
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Duplicate messages from GroupStudy Listserve [7:40077]
>
> No matter how many times I subscribe, unsubscribe, and re-subscribe, I
> can't get the GroupStudy Listserve server to send me only 1 copy of all
> messages, it always sends me at least 2.
>
> Has anyone who has recently subscribed or re-subscribed having the same
> problem?
>
> I don't want to bother the list moderator or Paul until I can confirm
> the problem is not on my end.
>
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mutliple RIP processes [7:58392]

2002-12-02 Thread bergenpeak
Anyone know why one can run only a single RIP process on a cisco
router?

Thanks




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GK: RRJ undefinedreason [7:58391]

2002-12-02 Thread Teresa Presutto
Dear group,
I'm not in able to register my H323 terminal.
>From the debug h225asn1 I receive rrj message: undefined reason.
Anybody can help me in troubleshooting it?

The problem seems related to gatekeeper zone.

Teresa




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RE: Collision [7:58389]

2002-12-02 Thread Gerhard Roets
Hi Cliff,

Fastethernet wont cure the problem, you can still run that half duplex.
What causes the collisions is running in half duplex mode. Try upping it
to full duplex. What full duplex does is it disables the internal
loopback device i.e. collision checking ussually if you are plugged into
a switch you want it to run in full duplex mode. Half duplex would be
bad when  you forced the switch port to full duplex. They might have
done that. It would also lead to those kind of errors.

Try this and tell me if it helped :)

Regards
Gerhard

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From: Cliff Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 02 December 2002 11:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Collision [7:58389]


Dear all,

Pls kindly help the following:

Really I am not understand although it is simple.

We colocate the router (2511) to our provider data center. Which having
two
ethernet interface. One connecting to date center internet and one is
connecting to our own LAN (which is private ip address). So we do NAT in
this router.

BUt sometime, we find that the ping time to internet is abnormal and
very
slow. After enable the logging in our router. We find the following log:

3d01h: %QUICC-ETHER5-COLL:Unit0, excessive collisions, Retry limit 15
exceeded.

We are sure that the cable is normal and our router also normal

Our Data center connected to our router using cisco 2950 switch and
having
the following setting in their switch port:

interface FastEthernet0/14
 load-interval 30
 duplex half
 speed 10

Anyway, it seems normal to me but the date center suggest us to using
fastethernet in our router to connecting to their switch and will not
having
any collision. So I wonder why it is true or not? Also, why ethernet
can't
connect to Cisco 2950 switch and having collision?




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Collision [7:58389]

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Cliff
Dear all,

Pls kindly help the following:

Really I am not understand although it is simple.

We colocate the router (2511) to our provider data center. Which having two
ethernet interface. One connecting to date center internet and one is
connecting to our own LAN (which is private ip address). So we do NAT in
this router.

BUt sometime, we find that the ping time to internet is abnormal and very
slow. After enable the logging in our router. We find the following log:

3d01h: %QUICC-ETHER5-COLL:Unit0, excessive collisions, Retry limit 15
exceeded.

We are sure that the cable is normal and our router also normal

Our Data center connected to our router using cisco 2950 switch and having
the following setting in their switch port:

interface FastEthernet0/14
 load-interval 30
 duplex half
 speed 10

Anyway, it seems normal to me but the date center suggest us to using
fastethernet in our router to connecting to their switch and will not having
any collision. So I wonder why it is true or not? Also, why ethernet can't
connect to Cisco 2950 switch and having collision?


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Re: Passed Cisco IP Telephony [7:58386]

2002-12-02 Thread Juli Hato
Congratulation Thangavel,

and thank u for sharing with us.

Best Regards,
HATO

>From: "THANGAVEL VISHNUKUMAR MUDALIAR" 
>Reply-To: "THANGAVEL VISHNUKUMAR MUDALIAR" 
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>Subject: Passed Cisco IP Telephony [7:58386]
>Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:30:46 GMT
>
>Hi Group,
>
>Today I passed the Cisco IP Telephony Exam.I used the cisco Press book by
>David Lovell and I had a bad experience with this book.The cover page of 
>the
>book is misleading as it says prepare for IP telephony Certification with
>this
>book.
>To my experience this book is not sufficient for passing the exam as it 
>does
>not cover all the topics probed in the exam.
>There is PDF on IP telephony design guide on cisco's web site,I feel the 
>book
>is a copy of that.The design guide has more than what is covered in this
>book.I feel spending $60 on this book is not worth as same information you
>can
>find on
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/.
>
>About the exam,It has 70 questions, passing score is 699 and have 2 hrs to
>answer them.I used cisco site extensively for preparing for this exam.
>
>
>Kind Regards/Thangavel V M
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