RE: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]
ISL requires Fast ethernet. J -Original Message- From: Colin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245] Hello I have been doing some reading on VLANs and Trunking and have read conflicting information. Can you use a 10Mbs Ethernet interface when running ISL or 801.1q or does the interface have to be FastEthernet? Some books/articles I've read say you must use at least a FastEthernet interface and others say you can use an Ethernet interface. Note: this is for my CCNP lab studies, not a production network. Thanks Colin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35247&t=35245 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX logging [7:62467]
If you do find a workaround, please let us (me) know? Thanks Jmaie -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX logging [7:62467] Further to this, I searched Google (I do get it right occasionally) and found that this happens when you use access lists instead of conduits with 5.1. I am using 5.1(5), the other PIX I had detailed info on was using 6.22. Still looking for a workaround (other than changing my access lists to conduits). Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow Sent: 04 February 2003 20:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX logging Hi guys, I am studying the PIX, and have successfully set it up, and am logging to kiwi syslog daemon on my windows XP box. I have done this before, not at home, and the info I saw in the syslog screen was reasonably detailed, ie it had the source and destination ports in the text, for warnings. I am now only getting protocol numbers (hence my other question) as seen below: 02-04-2003 20:46:29Local4.Warning 172.16.1.1 Feb 04 2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to 172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by access-group "dmz2int" 02-04-2003 20:46:29Local4.Warning 172.16.1.1 Feb 04 2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to 172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by access-group "dmz2int" 02-04-2003 20:46:26Local4.Warning 172.16.1.1 Feb 04 2003 20:46:12: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 172.16.2.100 to 172.16.1.100, protocol 17 received from interface "DMZ" deny by access-group "dmz2int" This doesn't tell me much. I have been mucking around with debugging levels and facility numbers, but not getting anywhere. Anyone know how to force it to show port numbers? Cheers, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62598&t=62467 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SNIFFER SOFTWARE [7:63586]
ditto "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Mike Mandulak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SNIFFER SOFTWARE [7:63586] It works fine for me, but I did do an uninstall/reinstall after upgrading to XP. - Original Message - From: "PacketEXPERTS" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: SNIFFER SOFTWARE [7:63586] > Sniffer Pro 4.5 and NetXRay 3.0 work fine with Windows 98, but is > there a patch, or a way to upgrade Sniffer Pro 4.5 or NetXRay 3.0 to > be compatable with Windows XP? > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Please send replys to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63600&t=63586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7206 adding VIP cards [7:63673]
I have a couple of VIP cards from an old 7010 that are (according to Cisco) compatible with a new 7206. One is a single, copper 100Mb card and the other is a 4 port 10Bt card. I am supposed to be able to add them "hot" to the new 7206, but when I tried this I got the message on the console that all interfaces are being disabledand they were! I didn't wait very long to see if they would come back upon their own, but this does not seem like the expected behavior. Can anyone comment on this? I plan to try again and try to administratively bring the interfaces back up. Thanks in advance. Jamie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63673&t=63673 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Software [7:63796]
Or NGSSniff..also free and works without a driver. -Original Message- From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Software [7:63796] Why not try ethereal .. its free!! PacketEXPERTS wrote: > > Have anyone gotten NetXray 3.0 or Sniffer Pro 4.5 to > work with XP. > > Thanks > > ___ > Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification > software. > Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63870&t=63796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 7206 adding VIP cards [7:63673]
One of the Pas did in fact work. The tech I had install them saw the console message that said shutting down all interfaces, but it was on the new card! This was a 100Mb card. The 8 port 10Mb card is the one that gives a console message saying that it needs a HW revision to work in the 7206 VXR. Here are the part numbers (nothing on the front of the card) 73-1391-07 REV A0 (on PCB) I guess this needs the HW rev.. J -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:11 AM To: Arnold, Jamie Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 7206 adding VIP cards [7:63673] I ASSume you mean PA's not VIPs ;) What is the part number of the two PA's? Some PA's that play well with VIPs need a differant HW revision in order to work on a 7200. Other than that you should be able to do OIR but it wouldn't be the first time I have seen OIR not work:( Dave Arnold, Jamie wrote: > I have a couple of VIP cards from an old 7010 that are (according to > Cisco) compatible with a new 7206. One is a single, copper 100Mb card > and the other is a 4 port 10Bt card. I am supposed to be able to add > them "hot" to the new 7206, but when I tried this I got the message on > the console that all interfaces are being disabledand they were! > I didn't wait very long to see if they would come back upon their own, > but this does not seem like the expected behavior. Can anyone comment > on this? I plan to try again and try to administratively bring the > interfaces back up. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jamie -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63872&t=63673 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 7206 adding VIP cards [7:63673]
Tac told us that these were compatible... "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: tu do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 7206 adding VIP cards [7:63673] Jamie wrote: "The 8 port 10Mb card is the one that gives a console message saying that it needs a HW revision to work in the 7206 VXR." The PAs have compatible issues with 7200VXR. Only the PAs those said VXR compatible work on 7200VXR. The older's work on 7K, 75xx, or c5rsm only. There are good sources at cisco.com tu do. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63935&t=63673 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: any windows 2000 mailing list? [7:65544]
Sunbelt Software has several very good W2K, AD, .net and X2K lists with very high participation. -Original Message- From: NKP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: any windows 2000 mailing list? [7:65544] msnews.microsoft.com ""Carol smith"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi... Group > > Personally I feel this cisco mailing list is very good. Do u know is there > any windows 2000 mailing list to recommend me? > > Thanks > > > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65683&t=65544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: religious wars [7:70274]
That's for sure. Linus wrote his first code in 1991. FreeBSD was beginning in 1993. OpenBSD is my personal fave. -Original Message- From: Sam Sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since when is FreeBSD a flavor of Linux??? Would you say Solaris is a flavor of Linux as well??? All *nix's are not the same. ""Black Jack"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Old timers will remember Mac vs DOS/Windows. Or UNIX vs DOS. Or Beta > vs VHS. > More recent is Linux vs FreeBSD, or one flavor of Linux distribution > vs another. (See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990301 for example. > By the way, if you are not familiar with www.userfriendly.org, you > gotta check it out. Funniest geek-oriented comic strip this side of > dilbert) > > Anyway, try asking network types what their favorite TFTP server is... > then step back! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70320&t=70274 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows meltdown??? [7:56190]
Without describing the "major problem" with the network it's hard to conclude very much, but..a machine becoming the master browser should not effect much more than the other machines in the workgroup/domain ability to see other machines on a browse list. The maximum size of a browse list is 64K (2500 machines approx) so you don't have much data being transferred. I would look elsewhere for the solution to the problem. This is not it. J -Original Message- From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:pat_donlon@;yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Windows meltdown??? [7:56190] We had an interested situation develop yesterday, about mid morning the helpdesk manager reported a major problem with the network. Checked the network with HPOV and some basic stuff on the core switches to check cpu, peaks, etc. All was fine. Spoke to the NT team and it seems two servers are having problems, a file server and a BDC. After some investigation (event log checking probably) they tell me that the problem is caused by a machine becoming the master browser. So a man hunt begins for a machine (a non standard one from the name found for the machine) on a VLAN which was separate from the VLAN the servers sit on. The machine was not responding to pings and was probably not even being used! Eventually the user came back to his machine mid afternoon and we find the port being used and the NT guys disable his Computer Browser. In between finding the machine the two offending servers had to be re-booted to fix their mystery problems. >From what I know about the browser this shouldn't cause a problem on the network and if it does only with the windows machines in that subnet ( please correct feel free to correct me). Also XP has default registry settings to prevent it becoming the master browser - yep the guy was using XP (Japanese edition). Has anyone else had such a meltdown on their Windows environment because of such problems or is this just a case a apportioning blame to an outsider? Cheers Pat Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56203&t=56190 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MSN Messenger blocking [7:55445]
It will try one of the standard, higher ports that are listed, if it can't get through it begins to look elsewhere...like 80. MS made it smart..to some degree. -Original Message- From: Mohannad Khuffash [mailto:mohd.khuffash@;paltel.net] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MSN Messenger blocking [7:55445] Hi, I tried to block port 1080, but the MSN messenger still working. I think it's works at http port "80" , is that right ? Regards, wrote in message news:200210121035.KAA07184@;groupstudy.com... > Block its port, I believe 1080 > > > > ""Mohannad Khuffash"" wrote in message > news:200210120908.JAA01990@;groupstudy.com... > > Hello All, > > What is the best way to block MSN Messenger ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mohannad Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=55477&t=55445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to measure the amount of traffic on a router? [7:56385]
If your router has CEF enabled, be sure to read about how to get accurate counts when using MRTG/RRD -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:esavage@;digitalrage.org] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to measure the amount of traffic on a router? [7:56385] Look into MRTG/SNMP -Original Message- From: Vitaliy Vishnevskiy [mailto:vitaliy@;shoregroup.com] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to measure the amount of traffic on a router? [7:56385] Folks, I am looking for some kind of inexpensive software package that could be programmed to graph the traffic volume going through a router. Thanks -- Vitaliy Vishnevskiy System Engineer, CCDP, CCNP, Cisco Security Specialist 1, MCSE ShoreGroup, Inc 460 West 35th Street New York, NY 10001 Phone: (212) 736-2915 Mobile: (917) 816-0753 Fax: (425) 955-1485 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Vitaliy Vishnevskiy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56413&t=56385 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: off Topic--pricewatch.com etc [7:57291]
Mysimon.com can be good.. -Original Message- From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:billy.tester@;rwesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: off Topic--pricewatch.com etc [7:57291] There had been some good websites mentioned where one could compares prices of different new devices. I have found a few but one that was really good I cannot find..I do ot remember its name. It was similar to pricewatch.com anyone have any ideas on what it might be? thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=57357&t=57291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Console adapter for OLDER Catalyst 1924 [7:57947]
sspec.htm#xtocid115096 -Original Message- From: cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Console adapter for OLDER Catalyst 1924 [7:57947] Hi group. I have an OLDER model of the Cat 1900 switch that has the DB-9 port (not RJ-45) for console access. I can't find any info on Cisco's site for this model, so I don't know what it's pinout assignment should be. The only way I can console in using the usual connection (e.g. terminal server) is via the Diagnostic mode. My research revealed that apparently this model uses a different DB-9 to RJ-45 pinout. If anyone has any info, I'd greatly appreciate it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=57960&t=57947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
MRTG Cricket -Original Message- From: Curious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over Ethernet and T1 Link. Thanks, -- Curious MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58207&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX 525 norandomseq?? [7:59471]
Cisco states that the norandomseq comand should be not used when you have a pix "inline" with another pix. Does "inline" mean directly connected? I have a 525 at the edge and a few 500 series Pixs in other places in the network behind a 6500 and or a 5500 router(s). Do I have to worry about this in my situation on the statics? Thanks Jamie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=59471&t=59471 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285]
What about *very* slow access to CiscoWorks? We're running it from a new Dell 2550, 2 processors, 1gb or ram and the box does nothing but run CW. Accessing it from a workstation takes literally minutes to load the initial page and then another 3-4 minutes to load the device manager. Is this common? Thanks "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Amr Essam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] Piyush Check the permissions for the user you logged on with to the ciscoworks And check the java settings in the web browser too I have passed with this kind of problem but it was solved by this way as it's mainly related with the browser Amr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mr piyush shah Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] Hi all I have windows2000 suite of NMS.I have installed CD1 with version 4 .Now that I can acess the same locally ,while When I am trying to acess ciscoview through web using port 1741 on other pC,I am getting the error Please grant the permission to acess Ciscoview.I wonder whether where should I grant the permisiion.Request all to help me. Piyush Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60313&t=60285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285]
I'm sorry to say, but even after accessing it 10 times from any machine it is just as slow as the first time. -Original Message- From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] hi, this is a java "FEATURE" ,...we run it on a sun E250 dual proc 1gb mem and it goes very well.. once you have accepted the first security "token" and select "grant always" the problem will go away ,,, it is authenticating "of sorts" your PC .hell ...actually it is just registering it for future updates.. also you must remember on a pc that has never connected to CW2K the server download`s and install the java 1.3_01 client ,which can take some time..3-7 mins with install but again this only happen`s once... when you register your Pc buy saying "GRANT ALWAYS" some java CAR files are installed onto your machine which simply register you everytime you logonalso the web server itself, keeps some cookie info about which machine`s have tried to log on unsuccessfully.. it`s ok and part of the process ... just say YES I have used Cw2k for some time and have got USED TOO it`s little forboyles HTH Steve - Original Message - From: "Frank Jimenez" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > Is it from just one particular workstation or any workstation? IE and > Netscape both? > > I've had intermittent problems accessing CW2K servers from my laptop - > usually because I've done something funky with my Java settings or > installed one to many new widgets. I've had to reinstall IE/Netscape > before I could get it to work right. > > Wouldn't hurt to make sure that the server is patched to current revs > as well. > > Frank Jimenez, CCIE #738 > Systems Engineer > Cisco Systems, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of Arnold, Jamie > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > What about *very* slow access to CiscoWorks? We're running it from a > new Dell 2550, 2 processors, 1gb or ram and the box does nothing but > run CW. Accessing it from a workstation takes literally minutes to > load the initial page and then another 3-4 minutes to load the device > manager. Is this common? > > Thanks > > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge" > > Albert Einstein > > > -Original Message- > From: Amr Essam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > Piyush > > Check the permissions for the user you logged on with to the > ciscoworks And check the java settings in the web browser too I have > passed with this kind of problem but it was solved by this way as it's > mainly related with the browser > > Amr > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of Mr piyush shah > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > Hi all > I have windows2000 suite of NMS.I have installed CD1 > with version 4 .Now that I can acess the same locally > ,while When I am trying to acess ciscoview through web > using port 1741 on other pC,I am getting the error > Please grant the permission to acess Ciscoview.I > wonder whether where should I grant the > permisiion.Request all to help me. > Piyush > > > __ > __ > Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. >visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60599&t=60285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285]
2 proc 1.9 Ghz Dell 2550 with a gig of ram "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 AM To: Arnold, Jamie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] hi, that`s a real shame as it`s a great product...(2.1 once you have got all the bugs out) my sun machine has a 100 meg connection to a 5509 but it is in another building...which is connected to us over a 100meg fibre link (this link also carries normal "user"data) i am running solaris 2.6 32bit version on a dual proc(300mhz) system with 1gig of mem and a 36 gig hdd, but to be honest all the people i have spoken to recommend running it on atleast a dual proc system . it shouldn`t be that slow .what are you running it on steve - Original Message - From: "Arnold, Jamie" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > I'm sorry to say, but even after accessing it 10 times from any > machine it is just as slow as the first time. > > -Original Message- > From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > hi, > > this is a java "FEATURE" ,...we run it on a sun E250 dual proc 1gb mem > and it goes very well.. > > once you have accepted the first security "token" and select "grant always" > the problem will go away ,,, > > it is authenticating "of sorts" your PC .hell ...actually it is > just registering it for future updates.. > > also you must remember on a pc that has never connected to CW2K the server > download`s and install the java 1.3_01 client ,which can take some time..3-7 > mins with install > > but again this only happen`s once... > when you register your Pc buy saying "GRANT ALWAYS" some java CAR > files are > installed onto your machine which simply register you everytime you > logonalso the web server itself, keeps some cookie info about > which machine`s have tried to log on unsuccessfully.. > > it`s ok and part of the process ... just say YES > > I have used Cw2k for some time and have got USED TOO it`s little > forboyles > > HTH > > Steve > > - Original Message - > From: "Frank Jimenez" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:38 PM > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > > Is it from just one particular workstation or any workstation? IE > > and Netscape both? > > > > I've had intermittent problems accessing CW2K servers from my laptop > > - usually because I've done something funky with my Java settings or > > installed one to many new widgets. I've had to reinstall > > IE/Netscape before I could get it to work right. > > > > Wouldn't hurt to make sure that the server is patched to current > > revs as well. > > > > Frank Jimenez, CCIE #738 > > Systems Engineer > > Cisco Systems, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > > Of Arnold, Jamie > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > > > > What about *very* slow access to CiscoWorks? We're running it from > > a new Dell 2550, 2 processors, 1gb or ram and the box does nothing > > but run CW. Accessing it from a workstation takes literally minutes > > to load the initial page and then another 3-4 minutes to load the > > device manager. Is this common? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge" > > > > Albert Einstein > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Amr Essam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > > > > Piyush > > > > Check the permissions for the user you logged on with to the > > ciscoworks And check the java settings in the web browser too I have > > passed with this kind of problem but it was solved by this way as > > it's mainly related with the browser > > > > Amr > > > >-Original Message- > &g
RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285]
2.6Ghz Dell, gig of ram..brand new machineI'm thinking of dumping the Intel box and put it on a Solaris box. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Loechel, Michelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] For Arnold, Jamie who said: > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:07 PM > > What about *very* slow access to CiscoWorks? We're running it from > > a new Dell 2550, 2 processors, 1gb or ram and the box does nothing > > but run CW. Accessing it from a workstation takes literally minutes > > to load the initial page and then another 3-4 minutes to load the > > device manager. Is this common? It sounds like your server specs shouldn't be the problem. What are your pc specs? For my pc, I had to get a Pentium 4 1.2 GHz with 256 MB of RAM vs my old pc (P3 - 500 with 128MB of RAM) would take 3 times as long and even longer if I had other apps open. My new pc only takes about 6 seconds to open the main window and 10 seconds to load the device view of a 6509 in the core. Add some time loading views for WAN equipment (obviously). For anyone thinking of putting this in, my experience with this application is: Much more stable on Solaris than on NT. You must increase the hardware for every application in addition to CDOne otherwise the performance is terrible. And on top of that, double the minimum requirements. For any upgrades, double your current box (assuming you've done the above rule successfully). I would agree that it is a great product. Mine runs fairly fast, but these are my server specs: I have the LAN/WAN/DFM running on a Solaris 2.7 Ultra 80 with dual Ultra-Sparc II chips with a Gig of RAM. -Original Message- From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] hi, that`s a real shame as it`s a great product...(2.1 once you have got all the bugs out) my sun machine has a 100 meg connection to a 5509 but it is in another building...which is connected to us over a 100meg fibre link (this link also carries normal "user"data) i am running solaris 2.6 32bit version on a dual proc(300mhz) system with 1gig of mem and a 36 gig hdd, but to be honest all the people i have spoken to recommend running it on atleast a dual proc system . it shouldn`t be that slow .what are you running it on steve - Original Message - From: "Arnold, Jamie" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > I'm sorry to say, but even after accessing it 10 times from any > machine it is just as slow as the first time. > > -Original Message- > From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > hi, > > this is a java "FEATURE" ,...we run it on a sun E250 dual proc 1gb mem > and it goes very well.. > > once you have accepted the first security "token" and select "grant always" > the problem will go away ,,, > > it is authenticating "of sorts" your PC .hell ...actually it is > just registering it for future updates.. > > also you must remember on a pc that has never connected to CW2K the server > download`s and install the java 1.3_01 client ,which can take some time..3-7 > mins with install > > but again this only happen`s once... > when you register your Pc buy saying "GRANT ALWAYS" some java CAR > files are > installed onto your machine which simply register you everytime you > logonalso the web server itself, keeps some cookie info about > which machine`s have tried to log on unsuccessfully.. > > it`s ok and part of the process ... just say YES > > I have used Cw2k for some time and have got USED TOO it`s little > forboyles > > HTH > > Steve > > - Original Message - > From: "Frank Jimenez" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:38 PM > Subject: RE: problems while acessing Ciscoworks 2000 [7:60285] > > > > Is it from just one particular workstation or any workstation? IE > > and Netscape both? > > > > I've had intermittent problems accessing CW2K servers from my laptop > > - usually because I've done something funky with my Java settings or > > installed one to many new widgets. I've had to reinstall > > IE/Netscape before I could get it to work right. > > > > Wouldn't hurt to make sure that the server is patched to
RE: Microsoft Exchange/UMS and Firewall [7:61747]
Exchange will use 135 to discover (portmapper) and then use dynamically assigned ports for the actual conversations. Your best bet is to statically map the ports in Exchange and then you don't have a moving target from the firewall point of view. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;155831 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b194952 The other option (not a good one IMHO) is to open 135 only to the Exchange host and then leave a range of ports open to that host as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Microsoft Exchange/UMS and Firewall [7:61747] Hi All, Need your advice on the following situation: I have a Active Voice Unified Messaging System on Location A, and a Microsoft Exchange Server at Location B. Both Location A and B are protected by Checkpoint firewall. Please advice how the firewall be configured such that it will allow MAPI to be used between these two sites. Thanks a lot in advance! Maurice Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61780&t=61747 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NT4.0 password crack tool [7:61807]
Why do a command line? Just rename user manager to logon.scr and reboot (you'll need NTFSDOS Pro) and in 15 minutes you get user manager with root perms. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Juntao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NT4.0 password crack tool [7:61807] u'r talking about nt4 login passwords, the SAM database? lophtcrack works, it takes a long time though systernals has tools to login to the box, and change things. u can also change cmd.exe to the default screen savec name, the command line will pope up after a while, after reboot. and change the password with the net user command if the server or the box is part of the global admin group, i'm sure u know u can change the password or reset it, even just with, user manager for domains. and there is of course a lot of other things that can be done, depending on ur situation. hope the above helps regards ""Kazan, Naim"" a icrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I am trying to recover my password that someone set on my sniffer box > running on NT4.0. Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Naim Kazan > FISC-SDS > WORK: 201-915-7347 > HOME: 973-492-1466 > CELL: 917-559-0591 > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PAGER: 800-759-8352 Pin 1145361 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61833&t=61807 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A special new game [7:61850]
Hehhhehehehe.no AV, huh? "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: pborghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A special new game [7:61850] This is a very new game This game is my first work. You're the first player. I wish you would enjoy it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61889&t=61850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A special new game [7:61850]
Here's the scoop from a friend @ eeye.com We experienced one machine that wasn't patched and therefore got slammed...it was generating 100 Mbps of pure DoS traffic.That admin will be drawn and quartered. J SQL Sapphire Worm Analysis Release Date: 1/25/03 Severity: High Systems Affected: Microsoft SQL Server 2000 pre SP 2 Description: Late Friday, January 24, 2003 we became aware of a new SQL worm spreading quickly across various networks around the world. The worm is spreading using a buffer overflow to exploit a flaw in Microsoft SQL Server 2000. The SQL 2000 server flaw was discovered in July, 2002 by Next Generation Security Software Ltd. The buffer overflow exists because of the way SQL improperly handles data sent to its Microsoft SQL Monitor port. Attackers leveraging this vulnerability will be executing their code as SYSTEM, since Microsoft SQL Server 2000 runs with SYSTEM privileges. The worm works by generating pseudo-random IP addresses to try to infect with its payload. The worm payload does not contain any additional malicious content (in the form of backdoors etc.); however, because of the nature of the worm and the speed at which it attempts to re-infect systems, it can potentially create a denial-of-service attack against infected networks. We have been able to verify that multiple points of connectivity on the Internet have been bogged down since 9pm Pacific Standard Time. It should be noted that this worm is not the same as an earlier SQL worm that used the SA/nopassword SQL vulnerability as its spread vector. This is a new worm is more devastating as it is taking advantage of a software-specific flaw rather than a configuration error. We have already had many reports of smaller networks brought down due to the flood of data from the Sapphire Worm trying to re-infect new systems. Corrective Action We recommend that people immediately firewall SQL service ports at all of their gateways. The worm uses only UDP port 1434 (SQL Monitor Port) to spread itself to a new system; however, it is safe practice to filter all SQL traffic at all gateways. The following is a list of SQL server ports: ms-sql-s 1433/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Server ms-sql-s 1433/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Server ms-sql-m 1434/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor ms-sql-m 1434/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor Once again this worm is taking advantage of a known vulnerability that has had a patch available for many months. Microsoft has also released a recent service pack for SQL (Service Pack 3) that includes a fix for this vulnerability. Standalone patch: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/ bulletin/MS02-039.asp SQL 2000 Service Pack 3: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/2000/sp3.asp Previous SQL Service Pack versions are vulnerable. Technical Description The following is a quick run-down of what the worm's payload is doing after infection: 1. Retrieves the address of GetProcAddress and Loadlibrary from the IAT in sqlsort.dll. It snags the necessary library base addresses and function entry points as needed. 2. Calls gettickcount, and uses returned count as a pseudo-random seed 3. Creates a UDP socket 4. Performs a simple pseudo random number generation formula using the returned gettickcount value to generate an IP Address that will later be used as the target. 5. Send worm payload in a SQL Server Resolution Service request to the pseudo random target address, on port 1434 (UDP). 6. Return back to formula and continue generating new pseudo random addresses. push42B0C9DCh ; [RET] sqlsort.dll -> jmp esp mov eax, 1010101h ; Reconstruct session, after the overflow the payload buffer ; get's corrupted during program execution but before the ; payload is executed. . xor ecx, ecx mov cl, 18h FIXUP: pusheax loopFIXUP xor eax, 5010101h pusheax mov ebp, esp pushecx push6C6C642Eh push32336C65h push6E72656Bh ; kernel32 pushecx push746E756Fh ; GetTickCount push436B6369h push54746547h mov cx, 6C6Ch pushecx push642E3233h ; ws2_32.dll push5F327377h mov cx, 7465h pushecx push6B636F73h ; socket mov cx, 6F74h pushecx push646E6573h ; sendto mov esi, 42AE1018h ; IAT from sqlsort lea eax, [ebp-2Ch] ; (ws2_32.dll) pusheax calldword ptr [esi] ; call loadlibrary
RE: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]
We have a few of these (ISP models) and they are very good at what they do. Very powerful CLI as well as the HTTP GUI. J -Original Message- From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916] Packeteer makes a great product, the Packetshaper. It works very well, check it out: www.packeteer.com -Original Message- From: Chris Headings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916] Hey all... Are there any ISP's out there with co-location clients located in their NOC??? If so, how do you effectively "rate-limit" their bandwidth. We currently use CAR on our switches/routers to accomplish this task but wondered if there is a better, more manageable way to accomplish this task. Maybe with some other form of hardware? Regards, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61951&t=61916 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX and asymmetry [7:62100]
I have a situation that I hope some of you might shed some light on. We have 2 points of ingress to our campus. One OC3 (Nycernet) for internet 2 and one (Time Warner) Our commodity edge consists of a 7200 router then the PIX. The I2 edge is just a 7200 series router. Our problem is that with certain sites, traffic going out on the I2 OC3 is returning via our commodity OC3 and the pix drops it as it didn't see it originating on the inside (syn-ack without syn) I recognize that the bigger problem may be with the way these sites are being routed back to us, but I have little control over that for now. Both edge routers use BGP for updates. I'm looking for a solution. Can I install another PIX on the OC3 side and somehow have the 2 PIX boxes talk to each other and update each others Xlate tables? Any suggestions would be appreciated Thanks Jamie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62100&t=62100 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX and asymmetry [7:62100]
Thanks, Richard. I think for us the best solution is to route both edge routers through the pix and use RIP to keep everyone happy. Static routes are a consideration, but I2 tends to be pretty dynamic and there are a lot of sloppy routes out there (obviously) so I think that would be a losing battle. As I'm not up to speed with OSPF, how would that help me here? I had also heard that OSPF was being introduced in 6.3 J "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ARe: PIX and asymmetry [7:62100] Jamie, Not quite...what you can do, however, is have all traffic go through one PIX and have another PIX as a failover. In this scenario, if one PIX would fail, the other could kick in--in this scenario, only one PIX is active. Of course, this still presents a problem of an exit path--by default, the active PIX would choose its defalt route and thus you would lose load balancing out your two exit points. The PIX does support passive RIP, so this might help. Or you could configure static routes...but you would, unfortuantely, not have any ability to route based on the source of the address--only your Cisco routers have this ability. And perhaps in the upcoming 6.3 release, OSPF might be introducted (--might--), but don't hold your breath. Hope this helps! Cheers! -- Richard A. Deal Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/ Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration Exam Cram Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco exams on the market. ""Arnold, Jamie"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I have a situation that I hope some of you might shed some light on. > We have 2 points of ingress to our campus. One OC3 (Nycernet) for internet 2 > and one (Time Warner) Our commodity edge consists of a 7200 router then > the PIX. The I2 edge is just a 7200 series router. Our problem is > that with certain sites, traffic going out on the I2 OC3 is returning > via our commodity OC3 and the pix drops it as it didn't see it > originating on the inside (syn-ack without syn) I recognize that the > bigger problem may be with the way these sites are being routed back > to us, but I have little control over that for now. Both edge routers > use BGP for updates. I'm looking for a solution. Can I install > another PIX on the OC3 side and somehow have the 2 PIX boxes talk to > each other and update each others Xlate > tables? > > Any suggestions would be appreciated > > Thanks > > Jamie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62123&t=62100 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Serial Number Retrieval Tool [7:49449]
I think Cricket will do this via rmon or SNMP? -Original Message- From: Kwame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Serial Number Retrieval Tool [7:49449] Is there a tool out there for retrieval serial numbers from cisco switches? Anyone? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49458&t=49449 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cat 5000 ram [7:49643]
www.superpc.com -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cat 5000 ram [7:49643] Hey guys, Anyone have a good source for CAT5K SUP1 Ram? Thanks, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49650&t=49643 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Filtering NT domain listings at the router [7:54668]
Take a look at WINS documentation.. -Original Message- From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Filtering NT domain listings at the router [7:54668] Hey all, Just curious if anyone has any links on filtering the domains on their network at the router. We are having a large amount of NT domains that are showing up internally, and I would like to start blocking these advertisements at the remote routers. Is this possible ? I can't figure out how, but I suspect that if it can be done, someone on this list has done it. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54746&t=54668 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a really big bug [7:72463]
Just got a call from our Cisco vendor...he said he's getting calls from some major clients that have routers that are affected. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: a really big bug [7:72463] Oscar wrote: > > Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Interface Blocked by IPv4 Packet > > lots and lots of IOS versions are affected > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml > > Thanks for the link. It's scary. Of course, with the proper ACLs, a router wouldn't be affected, but probably lots of routers don't have "the proper ACLs." Anyone know the details? The advisory just says this: "A rare, specially crafted sequence of IPv4 packets which is handled by the processor on a Cisco IOS device may force the device to incorrectly flag the input queue on an interface as full, which will cause the router to stop processing inbound traffic on that interface. This can cause routing protocols to drop due to dead timers." I think Cisco was right not to publish the details about these "rare, specially crafted" packets, but does anyone have the details? Maybe if you can get to the bugtracker, the details are in there. Thanks Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=72497&t=72463 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone seen this on a 2950?? [7:74906]
We have about 60 2950s that are exhibiting this behavior: Add an ACL (approx 17 ACEs) either via CiscoWorks or manually, delete the ACL, try to recreate a new ACL and the switch starts throwing ASIC resource errors and some ports begin to act funky (can't get DHCP reservations, but can get to web resources, ports go orange, etc) We can reproduce this problem in several versions of the IOS. These are new 2950G switches with the enhanced firmware purchased new about 2 months ago. Thanks Jamie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=74906&t=74906 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
