Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread Michael Williams

> I came across this about three years ago while setting up a
> multicast network and experiencing throughput problems, IOS was
> 112-13_P(1).  It looks like Cisco have changed the allocation
> method, what IOS are you running?

IOS (tm) C5RSM Software (C5RSM-DS-M), Version 11.3(3a)WA4(5)

Perhaps they changed it in 11.3  =)

Mike W.


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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread Michael Williams

khramov wrote:
> 
> Do both RSMs need to be on the same subnet?

Yes.  For instance, let's say VLAN 1 was the 10.1.1.0/24 subnet.

You could configure RSM#1 to have an address in VLAN1 of 10.1.1.2/24.
Then configure RSM#2 to have an address in VLAN1 of 10.1.1.3/24.

Then configure HSRP on both RSMs and use 10.1.1.1 as the standby IP.

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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread MADMAN

Only if you want redundancy

  Dave

khramov wrote:
> 
> Do both RSMs need to be on the same subnet?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> richard beddow wrote:
> 
> > Mike,
> >
> > DMA channels are indeed the I/O's ports I refered to, but I couldn't
> > remember what they were called (each time I learn something new ,
something
> > old falls out the other end).
> >
> > I came across this about three years ago while setting up a multicast
> > network and experiencing throughput problems, IOS was 112-13_P(1).  It
> looks
> > like Cisco have changed the allocation method, what IOS are you running?
> >
> > RB.
> 
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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread richard beddow

If you want to load share the VLANs and provide resilience using HSRP both
RSMs need to have an interface configured in every VLAN.

Also I would not use VLAN 1 for data as this VLAN cannot be removed from a
trunk and so propergates everywhere.

RB.


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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread khramov

Do both RSMs need to be on the same subnet?

Thanks

richard beddow wrote:

> Mike,
>
> DMA channels are indeed the I/O's ports I refered to, but I couldn't
> remember what they were called (each time I learn something new , something
> old falls out the other end).
>
> I came across this about three years ago while setting up a multicast
> network and experiencing throughput problems, IOS was 112-13_P(1).  It
looks
> like Cisco have changed the allocation method, what IOS are you running?
>
> RB.

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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread richard beddow

Mike,

DMA channels are indeed the I/O's ports I refered to, but I couldn't
remember what they were called (each time I learn something new , something
old falls out the other end).

I came across this about three years ago while setting up a multicast
network and experiencing throughput problems, IOS was 112-13_P(1).  It looks
like Cisco have changed the allocation method, what IOS are you running?

RB.


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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread Michael Williams

Richard,

Good information.  Here is part of the output of this command when I give
this command on one of our 5500 RSMs.  FYI:  We have 2 5500s with RSMs,
however, with the exception of one VLAN, RSM#1 is the HSRP primary for all
other VLANs.  Heres the output:

VlanTypeDMA Channel  Method 
1   ethernet1auto
2   ethernet0auto
8   ethernet1auto
142 ethernet0auto
200 ethernet1auto
201 ethernet0auto
202 ethernet1auto
203 ethernet0auto
204 ethernet1auto
205 ethernet0auto
206 ethernet1auto
1000ethernet0auto

Is the DMA channel above the two I/O "ports" your spoke of?  Just curious
because you also mentioned that "By default all odd VLANs are assigned to
the first port and all even VLANs to the second".  AFAIK, we haven't changed
the default behaviour on the RSM, and it seems to have split up the VLANs
evenly across the two DMA Channels.  What's your take on that?

Mike W.


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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-13 Thread richard beddow

The load balacing of the VLANs is recommended best practice, however the RSM
does not have wire speed access to the backplane, it has two I/O "ports"
each one 200Mbps FDX(from memory). By default all odd VLANs are assigned to
the first port and all even VLANs to the second.  So if you have all even
VLANs supported on one switch, that RSM will only be using half of it's
throughput capability.  You can see the VLAN allocation by issuing the "show
cont c5ip" command.  After some initial queue stuff each VLAN is listed
along with the "port" it is assigned to.

To maximise the RSM capabilities you therfore have two choices

1. Split the odd and even VLANs over the two RSMs.

2. Reassign half of the VLANs in each RSM to the other I/O.

This of course is only an issue of you are likely to exceed 200Mbps
throughput.

RB.



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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-12 Thread Michael Williams

I agree with Dave here.  Make both RSMs part of every VLAN, then make RSM1
the HSRP primary for even VLANs, and RSM2 the HSRP primary for odd VLANs.

Mike W.

MADMAN wrote:
> 
> You make each RSM part of EVERY VLAN!  Yes for redundancy and
> loadsharing even VLANS active for RSM1, odd for RSM2 is very
> reasonable
> and I think a recommneded way if you dig around CCO.  I have
> done
> several of these with RSM's and MSFC in the 6500 series, works
> great.
> 
>  Dave
> 
>   Don't copy config from one RSM to the other!!!  at least
> without
> some modification;)



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RE: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One thing need to be considered is what standby group you will configure for
each vlan. Suggesting you to select different group numbers. e.g.

interface Vlan5
 ip address X.X.5.252 255.255.255.0
 standby 5 timers 2 6
 standby 5 priority 100 preempt
 standby 5 ip X.X.5.253

interface Vlan6
 ip address X.X.6.252 255.255.255.0
 standby 6 timers 2 6
 standby 6 priority 100 preempt
 standby 6 ip X.X.6.253

Regards,

Debra Chan

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Hello

I have a design question.   I have two 5505 with RSM in each that are
connected to each other with 200Mb trunk.  Right now RSM of the first
switch is in VLAN 1; RSM of the second switch is in the VLAN 2.
Altogether I have about 20 VLANs.  I am planning to run HSRP between
both RSMs.  What would be the best way of doing it?
Here is what I think needs to happen:
1. Change the IP address of the second RSM and make it a part of VLAN 1
2. Reconfigure all VLAN
3. For even-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM1
4. For odd-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM 2
5. Copy the configuration for VLANs from RSM 1 to RSM 2

I do not have much experience in design so any input is more than
welcome.

Thanks,

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Re: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-12 Thread MADMAN

You make each RSM part of EVERY VLAN!  Yes for redundancy and
loadsharing even VLANS active for RSM1, odd for RSM2 is very reasonable
and I think a recommneded way if you dig around CCO.  I have done
several of these with RSM's and MSFC in the 6500 series, works great.

 Dave

  Don't copy config from one RSM to the other!!!  at least without
some modification;)

  Dave

khramov wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have a design question.   I have two 5505 with RSM in each that are
> connected to each other with 200Mb trunk.  Right now RSM of the first
> switch is in VLAN 1; RSM of the second switch is in the VLAN 2.
> Altogether I have about 20 VLANs.  I am planning to run HSRP between
> both RSMs.  What would be the best way of doing it?
> Here is what I think needs to happen:
> 1. Change the IP address of the second RSM and make it a part of VLAN 1
> 2. Reconfigure all VLAN
> 3. For even-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM1
> 4. For odd-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM 2
> 5. Copy the configuration for VLANs from RSM 1 to RSM 2
> 
> I do not have much experience in design so any input is more than
> welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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RE: HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-12 Thread Georgescu, Aurelian

Are your distribution switches dual connected to the two 5505? Then you can
do No. 3 and 4, but for efficiency you will need to make sure that the root
bridge for those VLANs point to the right switch that is also doing the
routing (the HSRP Primary)

AG

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Hello

I have a design question.   I have two 5505 with RSM in each that are
connected to each other with 200Mb trunk.  Right now RSM of the first
switch is in VLAN 1; RSM of the second switch is in the VLAN 2.
Altogether I have about 20 VLANs.  I am planning to run HSRP between
both RSMs.  What would be the best way of doing it?
Here is what I think needs to happen:
1. Change the IP address of the second RSM and make it a part of VLAN 1
2. Reconfigure all VLAN
3. For even-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM1
4. For odd-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM 2
5. Copy the configuration for VLANs from RSM 1 to RSM 2

I do not have much experience in design so any input is more than
welcome.

Thanks,

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HSRP design [7:28982]

2001-12-12 Thread khramov

Hello

I have a design question.   I have two 5505 with RSM in each that are
connected to each other with 200Mb trunk.  Right now RSM of the first
switch is in VLAN 1; RSM of the second switch is in the VLAN 2.
Altogether I have about 20 VLANs.  I am planning to run HSRP between
both RSMs.  What would be the best way of doing it?
Here is what I think needs to happen:
1. Change the IP address of the second RSM and make it a part of VLAN 1
2. Reconfigure all VLAN
3. For even-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM1
4. For odd-numbered VLANs make the primary gateway RSM 2
5. Copy the configuration for VLANs from RSM 1 to RSM 2

I do not have much experience in design so any input is more than
welcome.

Thanks,

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