RE: Masters degrees / distance learning
www.cics.bsu.eduis a masters in networking and is a cisco academy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Puckett, Larry Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:33 PM To: 'whatshakin'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Masters degrees / distance learning That's assuming that you would want to move into management. Myself, I am enthused about the opportunities opened by certifications in the technical arena, with appropriate compensation, without having to sell my soul in the political atmosphere of management. They can have it. I wouldn't even want it. Larry Puckette - LANCP Temple-Inland Network Analyst ph -512/434-1838 fax-512/434-1861 cell-512/751-8315 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: whatshakin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning I'd like to interject a little if I may. Having all cert related credentials will certainly open the doors to decent money and better and better opportunities in the IT related field. All certs and no degree however, (in most cases) is probably going to limit one's potential for growth opportunities. To expound on his further, having a degree and numerous certifications in the same discipline (IT in this case) could also hamper ones long term potential growth opportunities! I am referring to the possibility of moving into management positions in this case. Here the lack of business related skills could draw many obstacles to which overcoming them may prove difficult. It seems logical that a combination of both technical and business skills/certs will provide one with the best platform onto which you could build a solid career. Unfortunately, with bachelor degree's becoming almost a commodity these days, you may soon need to set yourself above the crowd with a graduate degree and high level certs of sorts. I dare say the folks with a MBA and CCIE will soon find themselves running the businesses of tomorrow. - Original Message - From: JohnMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning > TTFN: > > Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is prepared > to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx. My guess is that the vast majority of people > with "Certs only", plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very > long time to come. > > At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing > the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term. And this is where a graduate degree > will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial positions. > The higher levels of formal education will enable to do much than mere > networking stuff. I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and > perfect your PRESENTATION skills. > > So far I have completed one graduate program - MBA. I also have MCSE and > CCNA. I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP. I do this > because learning is fun to me. > > > Go for Gold! > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM > Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > > distance learning? > > > > TTFN > > Lauren > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.gro
RE: Masters degrees / distance learning
That's assuming that you would want to move into management. Myself, I am enthused about the opportunities opened by certifications in the technical arena, with appropriate compensation, without having to sell my soul in the political atmosphere of management. They can have it. I wouldn't even want it. Larry Puckette - LANCP Temple-Inland Network Analyst ph -512/434-1838 fax-512/434-1861 cell-512/751-8315 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: whatshakin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning I'd like to interject a little if I may. Having all cert related credentials will certainly open the doors to decent money and better and better opportunities in the IT related field. All certs and no degree however, (in most cases) is probably going to limit one's potential for growth opportunities. To expound on his further, having a degree and numerous certifications in the same discipline (IT in this case) could also hamper ones long term potential growth opportunities! I am referring to the possibility of moving into management positions in this case. Here the lack of business related skills could draw many obstacles to which overcoming them may prove difficult. It seems logical that a combination of both technical and business skills/certs will provide one with the best platform onto which you could build a solid career. Unfortunately, with bachelor degree's becoming almost a commodity these days, you may soon need to set yourself above the crowd with a graduate degree and high level certs of sorts. I dare say the folks with a MBA and CCIE will soon find themselves running the businesses of tomorrow. - Original Message - From: JohnMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning > TTFN: > > Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is prepared > to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx. My guess is that the vast majority of people > with "Certs only", plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very > long time to come. > > At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing > the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term. And this is where a graduate degree > will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial positions. > The higher levels of formal education will enable to do much than mere > networking stuff. I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and > perfect your PRESENTATION skills. > > So far I have completed one graduate program - MBA. I also have MCSE and > CCNA. I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP. I do this > because learning is fun to me. > > > Go for Gold! > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM > Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > > distance learning? > > > > TTFN > > Lauren > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Masters degrees / distance learning
Lauren, I'm working on my MSc in IT Management over here in Malaysia at one of the IT college that is backup by the Uni of Staffordshire. This might still consider as distance learning which tooks 2 years to complete (normally 1 year full time at Staffordshire) with 8 modules and 1 thesis. To be frank there are nothing technical in MSc even if you are taking the software module, they are purely into the management. So what is this master thingy to you? Ryan Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 24-07-2000 09:25:41 AM Please respond to Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ryan Ngai Hon Kong/GHL Technologies/MY) Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning Hiya, Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by distance learning? TTFN Lauren -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Masters degrees / distance learning
I'd like to interject a little if I may. Having all cert related credentials will certainly open the doors to decent money and better and better opportunities in the IT related field. All certs and no degree however, (in most cases) is probably going to limit one's potential for growth opportunities. To expound on his further, having a degree and numerous certifications in the same discipline (IT in this case) could also hamper ones long term potential growth opportunities! I am referring to the possibility of moving into management positions in this case. Here the lack of business related skills could draw many obstacles to which overcoming them may prove difficult. It seems logical that a combination of both technical and business skills/certs will provide one with the best platform onto which you could build a solid career. Unfortunately, with bachelor degree's becoming almost a commodity these days, you may soon need to set yourself above the crowd with a graduate degree and high level certs of sorts. I dare say the folks with a MBA and CCIE will soon find themselves running the businesses of tomorrow. - Original Message - From: JohnMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning > TTFN: > > Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is prepared > to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx. My guess is that the vast majority of people > with "Certs only", plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very > long time to come. > > At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing > the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term. And this is where a graduate degree > will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial positions. > The higher levels of formal education will enable to do much than mere > networking stuff. I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and > perfect your PRESENTATION skills. > > So far I have completed one graduate program - MBA. I also have MCSE and > CCNA. I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP. I do this > because learning is fun to me. > > > Go for Gold! > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM > Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > > distance learning? > > > > TTFN > > Lauren > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Masters degrees / distance learning
Hi, About distance learning...you can search through www.yahoo.com under education categories. It has pretty good list of all distance learning colleges and universiteis. I got information for Barrington University but not sure yet if I will start with them. But they have pretty good list of classes and also some friends reccommended me checking it out. Here is address: www.barrington.edu You can e-mail them to get a free catalog. good luck! John >From: Vincent Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Vincent Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Masters degrees / distance learning >Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:24:09 +0800 > >Hi Avran, > >I wonder if you could provide me links of Nova and Webster. BTW, are these >programs internationally recognized? TIA > >Best regards, >Vincent > >-Original Message- >From: Avran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:58 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning > > >Lauren: > >You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer >Science >and MIS as well. They both are good programs and you can take almost all >classes of Nova on the Internet. Good Luck > >Avran >Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Hiya, > > > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > > distance learning? > > > > TTFN > > Lauren > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Masters degrees / distance learning
TTFN: Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is prepared to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx. My guess is that the vast majority of people with "Certs only", plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very long time to come. At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term. And this is where a graduate degree will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial positions. The higher levels of formal education will enable to do much than mere networking stuff. I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and perfect your PRESENTATION skills. So far I have completed one graduate program - MBA. I also have MCSE and CCNA. I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP. I do this because learning is fun to me. Go for Gold! - Original Message - From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning > > Hiya, > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > distance learning? > > TTFN > Lauren > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Masters degrees / distance learning
Hi Avran, I wonder if you could provide me links of Nova and Webster. BTW, are these programs internationally recognized? TIA Best regards, Vincent -Original Message- From: Avran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning Lauren: You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer Science and MIS as well. They both are good programs and you can take almost all classes of Nova on the Internet. Good Luck Avran Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hiya, > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > distance learning? > > TTFN > Lauren > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Masters degrees / distance learning
Lauren: You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer Science and MIS as well. They both are good programs and you can take almost all classes of Nova on the Internet. Good Luck Avran Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hiya, > > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in > Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a > masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by > distance learning? > > TTFN > Lauren > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified > http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Masters degrees / distance learning
Hiya, Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in Computing (communications and Networks). Im wondering about doing a masters degree by distance learning. My old university, Sheffield Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by distance learning? TTFN Lauren -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP Certified http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
