Off topic Nortel Certifications
Hi, I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. Number of questions, how long the exam is ... I am gonna take the eam very soon. Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
The NNCSS for the Passport 7000 was 100 question (plus #1 are you ready to take the test and #2 do you accept the NDA--total =102, 100 real questions). Some were multiple choice, some T/F--and those aren't necessarily easy (anything wrong makes it false, even if 9/10 of it is true). Radio button questions have only one answer, check boxes have >1 possible...but not necessarily >1 correct answer. There are no fill in the blank. Passing is 80. The question difficulty is more than MS, maybe a little less than the 2 Cisco exams I've sat (CCNA and CCDA). The questions were by and large straightforward, no subtle little tricky phrasings. Some questions require you to understand a topology diagram--what's wrong with the addressing scheme, why can't A communicate with B, etc. I can't think of any more general info--specifics are out of bounds, of course. HTH Annlee "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
>John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Hi, > >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. >Number of questions, how long the exam is ... >I am gonna take the eam very soon. > >Thanx > Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in developing one certification exam so far, although the particular product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about the direction and value of certifications. At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions were definitely technical. There was an education/certification manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product architecture (me). I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of interest. Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be evaluated by a panel of experts. I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not tormenting them unnecessarily. "What Problem are you trying to solve?" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous... No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention anything that was related to my concerns. If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you are doing some publicity to yourself on the web Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic. Thanks a lot On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Hi, > > > >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > >Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > >I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > > >Thanx > > > > Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in > developing one certification exam so far, although the particular > product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about > the direction and value of certifications. > > At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented > (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier > presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions > were definitely technical. There was an education/certification > manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so > experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior > level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product > architecture (me). > > I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in > Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing > definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of > interest. > > Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level > architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less > on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of > medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real > networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be > evaluated by a panel of experts. > > I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to > make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that > there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not > tormenting them unnecessarily. > > "What Problem are you trying to solve?" > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not > directly to me*** > > Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com > Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID only) > but Cisco stockholder! > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
>John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous... sorta kinda, I guess. The list can judge. >No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention >anything that was related to my concerns. Your concerns being the inability to search Nortel's site and find http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/framework.html perhaps? And that there are multiple exams involved in NNCDS, so there is no simple answer to your question? Hint: Nortel does expect certified people to be able to do basic web searches. Oh...you'll also find Nortel offers a good deal of free study material for its basic certifications. >If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you >are doing some publicity to yourself on the web >Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic. Let me get this straight. You posted a question that you said is off topic, dealing with Nortel. A senior manager at Nortel answered you. You flamed for the answer not being on topic. What would have been on topic from your perspective? Cisco's analysis of Nortel exams? > >Thanks a lot > >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > > > >John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > > > >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > > >Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > > >I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > > > > >Thanx > > > > > > > Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in > > developing one certification exam so far, although the particular > > product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about > > the direction and value of certifications. > > > > At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented > > (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier > > presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions > > were definitely technical. There was an education/certification > > manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so > > experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior > > level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product > > architecture (me). > > > > I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in > > Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing > > definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of > > interest. > > > > Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level > > architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less > > on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of > > medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real > > networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be > > evaluated by a panel of experts. > > > > I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to > > make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that > > there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not > > tormenting them unnecessarily. > > > > "What Problem are you trying to solve?" > > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not > > directly to me*** > > > > Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com > > Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID >only) > > but Cisco stockholder! > > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >___ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
Hi John, I'm posting this to the group for others that have the same question. There is no specific exam for the Nortel NNCDS. Rather you need to do one of the core technology exam for the NNCSS and then do the Nortel web based exams from home ( or elsewhere) to fullfill the other requirements. See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncds.html for more info. The Nortel design exam is for the next level of certification, the NNCDE ( design expert). To get that you need to do the NNCDS, plus: one advanced exam, one more core technology exam and the design exam. See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncde.html for more info on that one. So if you mean you were planning to write the design expert exam 920-021 ( Network Design Essentials for Routers and Switches) you would not be certified as anything. Just a heads up. James Placer CCDP, CCNP, NNCSE, NNCSS, MCSE ENTG Engineer Interactive Business Systems Inc. email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > Thanx > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off topic Nortel Certifications
John, How long have you been on the list? I had been here for over 10 months. If you don't know Howard Berkowitz, then you don't know the good people on the list. I had grown tried of people like you and now only read post of select people. I ALWAYS read his post. He had written 3 books. He was/is on various IETF working group. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? Guest what HE IS FAMOUS. You will only be famous for your stupidity. Albert Ip CCNP CCDA MCSE Kazootek.com Senior Network Administrator Howard, Thanks again for all your help over the last months (not just to me but everyone on the list). I just finish the address book and is starting on the design book next. OH, John. If you want to learn something, go read Howard's old post in the archive. -Original Message- From: John lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:13 AM To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous... No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention anything that was related to my concerns. If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you are doing some publicity to yourself on the web Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic. Thanks a lot On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Hi, > > > >I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > >Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > >Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > >I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > > >Thanx > > > > Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in > developing one certification exam so far, although the particular > product was cancelled. I am involved in internal conversations about > the direction and value of certifications. > > At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented > (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier > presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions > were definitely technical. There was an education/certification > manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so > experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior > level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product > architecture (me). > > I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in > Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site. Nothing > definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of > interest. > > Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level > architect, are rather different than Cisco's model. They rely less > on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of > medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real > networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be > evaluated by a panel of experts. > > I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to > make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that > there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not > tormenting them unnecessarily. > > "What Problem are you trying to solve?" > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not > directly to me*** > > Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com > Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID only) > but Cisco stockholder! > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off topic Nortel Certifications
see: http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/ > -Original Message- > From: John lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 9:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Off topic Nortel Certifications > > > Hi, > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
Guys, Thanks a lot for the useful information, you have been very hepful. Howard, Chuck, and just to close this issue. I don't wanna to discuss it any more. You could answere me with a better way. The point that I want to clairfy is if you don't like the question you don't have to answere just ignore it. Not all people are on the same techincal level. Let me tell you something more, the technicality is never a problem you can search and look and you will find the answere, the point is on people's attitudes. I didn't not write any books I don't have the technical skills maybe of both of you but I can gain it, it is just a matter of time and at least I know how to talk to people politly. And no Howard, I didn't want Cisco's analysis of Nortel exams? but unfortunatly this was your answere.Look to how others answered my concern they didn't do a SHOW. Anyway thanx guys for the answeres. Albert Ip, You do not deserve any answere. On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:53:33 -0400, james wrote: > Hi John, > > I'm posting this to the group for others that have the same question. > > There is no specific exam for the Nortel NNCDS. Rather you need to do one > of the core technology exam for the NNCSS and then do the Nortel web based > exams from home ( or elsewhere) to fullfill the other requirements. See > http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncds.html for more > info. > > The Nortel design exam is for the next level of certification, the NNCDE ( > design expert). To get that you need to do the NNCDS, plus: one advanced > exam, one more core technology exam and the design exam. > See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncde.html for > more info on that one. So if you mean you were planning to write the design > expert exam 920-021 ( Network Design Essentials for Routers and Switches) > you would not be certified as anything. Just a heads up. > > James Placer CCDP, CCNP, NNCSE, NNCSS, MCSE > ENTG Engineer > Interactive Business Systems Inc. > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi, > > > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > > Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > > I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etiquette: WAS: Off topic Nortel Certifications
Because you made public the fact that I replied to you in private, I would just like to let everyone know exactly what that private reply was: Begin quote: You could do a lot worse than listen to Howard. Really. Idle curiosity, what do you think Howard should have said? What is the problem you are trying to start? End quote I responded to you privately, because you flamed a respected and revered individual publicly. Anything you have stated in your response below applies all the more to yourself. Sir, you have demonstrated an incredible lack of maturity, not to mention self-righteousness. As to whether I or anyone else "deserve any answere" I suggest that personality issues and personal style aside, it is well known among those who have spent any time on this list who at least tries to ADD value. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John lay Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications Guys, Thanks a lot for the useful information, you have been very hepful. Howard, Chuck, and just to close this issue. I don't wanna to discuss it any more. You could answere me with a better way. The point that I want to clairfy is if you don't like the question you don't have to answere just ignore it. Not all people are on the same techincal level. Let me tell you something more, the technicality is never a problem you can search and look and you will find the answere, the point is on people's attitudes. I didn't not write any books I don't have the technical skills maybe of both of you but I can gain it, it is just a matter of time and at least I know how to talk to people politly. And no Howard, I didn't want Cisco's analysis of Nortel exams? but unfortunatly this was your answere.Look to how others answered my concern they didn't do a SHOW. Anyway thanx guys for the answeres. Albert Ip, You do not deserve any answere. On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:53:33 -0400, james wrote: > Hi John, > > I'm posting this to the group for others that have the same question. > > There is no specific exam for the Nortel NNCDS. Rather you need to do one > of the core technology exam for the NNCSS and then do the Nortel web based > exams from home ( or elsewhere) to fullfill the other requirements. See > http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncds.html for more > info. > > The Nortel design exam is for the next level of certification, the NNCDE ( > design expert). To get that you need to do the NNCDS, plus: one advanced > exam, one more core technology exam and the design exam. > See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncde.html for > more info on that one. So if you mean you were planning to write the design > expert exam 920-021 ( Network Design Essentials for Routers and Switches) > you would not be certified as anything. Just a heads up. > > James Placer CCDP, CCNP, NNCSE, NNCSS, MCSE > ENTG Engineer > Interactive Business Systems Inc. > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi, > > > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > > Number of questions, how long the exam is ... > > I am gonna take the eam very soon. > > > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etiquette: WAS: Off topic Nortel Certifications
This is tiring. Everyone on the list deserves respect. No one deserves to be flamed. There are no people more or less entitled to break the rules or to enforce the ettiquette save the list proctor. I think if there are exceptional and more experienced people here rather than criticize people for lazy or unperceptive questions why not set a good example and show them how to ask good and worthwhile ones? There is no one more or less entitled to do commercial things and to promote for profit things either. No one earns the right to be above the rules that apply to everyone. >From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Etiquette: WAS: Off topic Nortel Certifications >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:16:23 -0700 > >Because you made public the fact that I replied to you in private, I would >just like to let everyone know exactly what that private reply was: > >Begin quote: >You could do a lot worse than listen to Howard. Really. > >Idle curiosity, what do you think Howard should have said? What is the >problem you are trying to start? >End quote > >I responded to you privately, because you flamed a respected and revered >individual publicly. Anything you have stated in your response below >applies >all the more to yourself. > >Sir, you have demonstrated an incredible lack of maturity, not to mention >self-righteousness. > >As to whether I or anyone else "deserve any answere" I suggest that >personality issues and personal style aside, it is well known among those >who have spent any time on this list who at least tries to ADD value. > >Chuck > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >John >lay >Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:41 AM >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications > >Guys, > >Thanks a lot for the useful information, you have been very hepful. > > > >Howard, Chuck, > >and just to close this issue. I don't wanna to discuss it any more. >You could answere me with a better way. The point that I want to clairfy is >if you don't like the question you don't have to answere just ignore it. >Not >all people are on the same techincal level. >Let me tell you something more, the technicality is never a problem you can >search and look and you will find the answere, the point is on people's >attitudes. I didn't not write any books I don't have the technical skills >maybe of both of you but I can gain it, it is just a matter of time and at >least I know how to talk to people politly. >And no Howard, I didn't want Cisco's analysis of Nortel exams? >but unfortunatly this was your answere.Look to how others answered my >concern they didn't do a SHOW. Anyway thanx guys for the answeres. > >Albert Ip, >You do not deserve any answere. > > > > > >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:53:33 -0400, james wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I'm posting this to the group for others that have the same question. > > > > There is no specific exam for the Nortel NNCDS. Rather you need to do >one > > of the core technology exam for the NNCSS and then do the Nortel web >based > > exams from home ( or elsewhere) to fullfill the other requirements. >See > > http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncds.html for >more > > info. > > > > The Nortel design exam is for the next level of certification, the >NNCDE >( > > design expert). To get that you need to do the NNCDS, plus: one >advanced > > exam, one more core technology exam and the design exam. > > See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncde.html >for > > more info on that one. So if you mean you were planning to write the >design > > expert exam 920-021 ( Network Design Essentials for Routers and >Switches) > > you would not be certified as anything. Just a heads up. > > > > James Placer CCDP, CCNP, NNCSE, NNCSS, MCSE > > ENTG Engineer > > Interactive Business Systems Inc. > > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hi, > > > > > > I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! > > > > > > Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. > > > Number of questions, how long the exam is .
