Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-25 Thread Jason Roysdon

Real simple: get a real telnet client that has a disconnect option (teraterm
is free and works great).  As soon as the 2511 sees the telnet session close
it will drop the reverse telnet line out to the 2501 (you can very by show
line on the 2501 to verify it's not in use).

Teraterm also supports serial connections (and can send break unlike the
default NT4 Hyperterminal).  There is also an SSHv1 add-on for connecting to
Cisco gear (Cisco only uses SSHv1 so far).

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html



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Frank Kim  wrote in message
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 Let's make it simple.  Let's ignore the factor that there is a 2501
 attached to a 2511's line 1.  Just plain simple.  You have:

 1) 2511 router with e0 = 192.168.1.1/24
 2) an NT box with ip address of 192.168.1.2/24

 Assuming that you have configured line 1 on the 2511 with transport input
 all and the rest.  You sit on your NT box and u telnet to 192.168.1.1
 2001.  Now you want to kill that telnet session.  How will you do it
 without closing the telnet application n or hitting a disconnect on the
 telnet application nor getting into the 2511 and do a clear line 1.  Hope
 you know where I'm getting at.


 -Frank


 On Thu, 24 May 2001, Erick B. wrote:

  Your telnet session is terminated at the 2511 but the
  2511 redirects you out line 1 directly, so your not
  getting a console/terminal session from the 2511. If
  you telnet to the 2511 then out line 1, then your
  using the 2511 as a console/terminal session so it
  behaves differently. This is the way I understand it
  and best I can explain it.
 
  --- Frank Kim  wrote:
   Erick,
   When you telnet into a 2511's ethernet address via
   port 2001 which as the
   2501 attached to it, you are actually on the console
   of the
   2501.  Pressing exit, logout, or quit at that poing
   does not terminate
   your tcp session to the 2511 but it only bring you
   to the Press RETURN to
   get started. screen of the 2501.  I want to be able
   to terminate the tcp
   session to the 2511 without closing the telnet
   application.
  
   -Frank
  
  
On Thu, 24 May
   2001, Erick B. wrote:
  
I sent a reply to this earlier. This is a
telnet-client issue (your windows telnet client).
   The
windows telnet client has a disconnect option that
will disconnect the session and keep the telnet
   window
open, or you can click on the X or alt-f4 the
   window.
You can also do 'logout' on router which should
disconnect it.
   
If you are looking to suspend and resume your
   telnet
session, then the windows client will not do this.
   You
will have to open multiple telnet windows, or
   telnet
into the 2511 and reverse telnet from there. When
you're telneting from the 2511 the 2511 lets you
suspend/resume session by using the escape
   sequence.
   
If you're looking for a control-] style
   suspend/resume
which is common in unix platforms then you'll have
   to
look around for a unix-like telnet client for
   windows
that has that functionality.
   
Ie:
   
I telnet'd to a cisco router from a unix box, and
   hit
control-] and got this:
   
telnet ?
Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:
   
close   close current connection
display display operating parameters
modetry to enter line or character
   mode
('mode ?' for more)
openconnect to a site
quitexit telnet
sendtransmit special characters ('send
   ?'
for more)
set set operating parameters ('set ?'
   for
more)
unset   unset operating parameters ('unset
   ?'
for more)
status  print status information
toggle  toggle operating parameters
   ('toggle
?' for more)
slc change state of special charaters
('slc ?' for more)
!   run a TI command
environ change environment variables
   ('environ
?' for more)
?   print help information
telnet
   
Erick
   
--- Frank Kim  wrote:
 Phil,
 Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me
 clarify.  I sit on an NT
 box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then
   run,
 then i type in: telnet
 192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the
 console of my 2501.  Even
 I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over
   the
 2511, but it looks as if
 the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not
   use
 alias or type exit to
 get out of that session.  Because whatever
 'character' you input into the
 screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.
   So
 again, if a user has
 made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how
   can
 he exit out of that
 telnet session 

RE: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Andras Bellak

Frank-

If I understand you correctly - telnet to 2511, reverse telnet to 2501, and
you want to suspend your session from 2511 to 2501. I think this is what you
are looking for:

We use 2509RJ access servers at some of our sites to enable remote
management of multiple pieces of equipment from a single management. We
might have a router, a pix, a switch or two and a vpn server hooked to the
2509, and need to have console access to each. What you basically need to do
is set the Escape Character to something other than CTL-^ (control-shift-6)
for each line (this works on all lines- vty, aux, con). You may want to give
every router a different escape character, though remembering them all is a
pain.

example:

line vty 0
 escape-character 23

The number 23 is an ASCII character - W to be precise. This will change the
escape sequence for the telnet port to Ctl-W. You can make each line
different on your system. Break out the ASCII tables and have fun.

Andras

-Original Message-
From: Frank Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]


Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of bandwidth.  But so far, I
think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I got:

1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of 2511
3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24

I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to 192.168.1.1 using port
2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x will
not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is to be able to exit
from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such as control-] or
so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not work.  

I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for any help.

-Frank
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Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Frank Kim

Phil,
Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me clarify.  I sit on an NT
box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then run, then i type in: telnet
192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the console of my 2501.  Even
I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over the 2511, but it looks as if
the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not use alias or type exit to
get out of that session.  Because whatever 'character' you input into the
screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.  So again, if a user has
made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how can he exit out of that
telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the telnet application?  Once
again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x cannot be applied in this
case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.

-Frank


 On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:

 OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511-- async--2501.  You have opened a
 session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via async line 2001 (through the
 first physical port on your octal cable).  Your commands in the 2511
(Telnet
 Hyper Term Window) only effect your relationship with the 2511/2501 or
 direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias only gives you a custom
 shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show IP BGP Neighbors might be made
 to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the 2511 Telnet ( leave the 2511
 connection up) is to simply close your Telnet window.  You can shortcut the
 exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.
 
 Have I misconstrued ???
 Phil
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Kim 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
 Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]
 
 
  Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of bandwidth.  But so far, I
  think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I got:
 
  1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
  2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of 2511
  3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24
 
  I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to 192.168.1.1 using port
  2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x will
  not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is to be able to exit
  from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such as control-] or
  so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not work.
 
  I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for any help.
 
  -Frank
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RE: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Andras Bellak

Frank-

I now know that my last reply isn't what you are looking for. I don't think
that there is a way to do this, from either NT or Unix. I would be
interested in knowing why the user would want to exit the session without
exiting telnet? I understand from a terminal server point of view, where you
might need to switch to a different line, but I'm missing why you'd telnet
directly to something and then want to exit the session without killing
telnet.

Andras


-Original Message-
From: Frank Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]


Phil,
Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me clarify.  I sit on an NT
box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then run, then i type in: telnet
192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the console of my 2501.  Even
I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over the 2511, but it looks as if
the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not use alias or type exit to
get out of that session.  Because whatever 'character' you input into the
screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.  So again, if a user has
made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how can he exit out of that
telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the telnet application?  Once
again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x cannot be applied in this
case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.

-Frank


 On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:

 OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511-- async--2501.  You have opened a
 session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via async line 2001 (through the
 first physical port on your octal cable).  Your commands in the 2511
(Telnet
 Hyper Term Window) only effect your relationship with the 2511/2501 or
 direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias only gives you a custom
 shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show IP BGP Neighbors might be
made
 to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the 2511 Telnet ( leave the 2511
 connection up) is to simply close your Telnet window.  You can shortcut
the
 exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.
 
 Have I misconstrued ???
 Phil
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Kim 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
 Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]
 
 
  Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of bandwidth.  But so far, I
  think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I got:
 
  1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
  2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of 2511
  3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24
 
  I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to 192.168.1.1 using port
  2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x
will
  not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is to be able to exit
  from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such as control-] or
  so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not work.
 
  I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for any help.
 
  -Frank
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RE: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Frank Kim

Andras,
This is just my curiosity or should i say, my quest for
knowledge.  Because I see there is a 'disconnect-chracter' under the
line configuration mode and I am not sure if we can set it to a certain
keystroke such as 'control-Y' or something similar which will tell the
terminal server: please kill my session.

COMM_SERVER(config)#line 1
COMM_SERVER(config-line)#disconnect-character 25

line 1
 no exec
 exec-timeout 0 0
 disconnect-character 25
 terminal-type vt100
 transport input all



a portion of 'sh line 1'

Special Chars: Escape  Hold  Stop  Start  Disconnect  Activation
^^xnone   - -^Y




The disconnect-character 25, which is a decimal equivalent of Control-Y in
ASCII.


So my question is, will this 'disconnect-character', in this case, it's
control-Y, tell the 2511 to kill the tcp session?



-Frank




On Thu, 24 May 2001, Andras Bellak wrote:

 Frank-
 
 I now know that my last reply isn't what you are looking for. I don't think
 that there is a way to do this, from either NT or Unix. I would be
 interested in knowing why the user would want to exit the session without
 exiting telnet? I understand from a terminal server point of view, where
you
 might need to switch to a different line, but I'm missing why you'd telnet
 directly to something and then want to exit the session without killing
 telnet.
 
 Andras
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]
 
 
 Phil,
 Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me clarify.  I sit on an NT
 box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then run, then i type in: telnet
 192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the console of my 2501.  Even
 I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over the 2511, but it looks as if
 the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not use alias or type exit to
 get out of that session.  Because whatever 'character' you input into the
 screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.  So again, if a user has
 made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how can he exit out of that
 telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the telnet application?  Once
 again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x cannot be applied in this
 case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.
 
 -Frank
 
 
  On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:
 
  OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511-- async--2501.  You have opened a
  session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via async line 2001 (through
the
  first physical port on your octal cable).  Your commands in the 2511
 (Telnet
  Hyper Term Window) only effect your relationship with the 2511/2501 or
  direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias only gives you a custom
  shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show IP BGP Neighbors might be
 made
  to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the 2511 Telnet ( leave the 2511
  connection up) is to simply close your Telnet window.  You can shortcut
 the
  exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.
  
  Have I misconstrued ???
  Phil
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Frank Kim 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
  Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]
  
  
   Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of bandwidth.  But so far,
I
   think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I got:
  
   1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
   2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of 2511
   3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24
  
   I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to 192.168.1.1 using port
   2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x
 will
   not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is to be able to exit
   from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such as control-] or
   so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not work.
  
   I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for any help.
  
   -Frank
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Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Erick B.

I sent a reply to this earlier. This is a
telnet-client issue (your windows telnet client). The
windows telnet client has a disconnect option that
will disconnect the session and keep the telnet window
open, or you can click on the X or alt-f4 the window.
You can also do 'logout' on router which should
disconnect it.

If you are looking to suspend and resume your telnet
session, then the windows client will not do this. You
will have to open multiple telnet windows, or telnet
into the 2511 and reverse telnet from there. When
you're telneting from the 2511 the 2511 lets you
suspend/resume session by using the escape sequence. 

If you're looking for a control-] style suspend/resume
which is common in unix platforms then you'll have to
look around for a unix-like telnet client for windows
that has that functionality. 

Ie:

I telnet'd to a cisco router from a unix box, and hit
control-] and got this:

telnet ?
Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:

close   close current connection
display display operating parameters
modetry to enter line or character mode
('mode ?' for more)
openconnect to a site
quitexit telnet
sendtransmit special characters ('send ?'
for more)
set set operating parameters ('set ?' for
more)
unset   unset operating parameters ('unset ?'
for more)
status  print status information
toggle  toggle operating parameters ('toggle
?' for more)
slc change state of special charaters
('slc ?' for more)
!   run a TI command
environ change environment variables ('environ
?' for more)
?   print help information
telnet

Erick

--- Frank Kim  wrote:
 Phil,
 Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me
 clarify.  I sit on an NT
 box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then run,
 then i type in: telnet
 192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the
 console of my 2501.  Even
 I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over the
 2511, but it looks as if
 the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not use
 alias or type exit to
 get out of that session.  Because whatever
 'character' you input into the
 screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.  So
 again, if a user has
 made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how can
 he exit out of that
 telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the telnet
 application?  Once
 again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x
 cannot be applied in this
 case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.
 
 -Frank
 
 
  On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:
 
  OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511--
 async--2501.  You have opened a
  session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via
 async line 2001 (through the
  first physical port on your octal cable).  Your
 commands in the 2511
 (Telnet
  Hyper Term Window) only effect your relationship
 with the 2511/2501 or
  direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias only
 gives you a custom
  shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show IP
 BGP Neighbors might be made
  to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the 2511
 Telnet ( leave the 2511
  connection up) is to simply close your Telnet
 window.  You can shortcut the
  exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.
  
  Have I misconstrued ???
  Phil
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Frank Kim 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
  Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet
 [7:5686]
  
  
   Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of
 bandwidth.  But so far, I
   think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I
 got:
  
   1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
   2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line
 1 of 2511
   3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24
  
   I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to
 192.168.1.1 using port
   2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a
 router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x will
   not suspend my session.  What I would like to do
 is to be able to exit
   from the telnet session by typing a keystroke
 such as control-] or
   so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not
 work.
  
   I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks
 for any help.


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Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Erick B.

Your telnet session is terminated at the 2511 but the
2511 redirects you out line 1 directly, so your not
getting a console/terminal session from the 2511. If
you telnet to the 2511 then out line 1, then your
using the 2511 as a console/terminal session so it
behaves differently. This is the way I understand it
and best I can explain it. 

--- Frank Kim  wrote:
 Erick,
 When you telnet into a 2511's ethernet address via
 port 2001 which as the
 2501 attached to it, you are actually on the console
 of the
 2501.  Pressing exit, logout, or quit at that poing
 does not terminate
 your tcp session to the 2511 but it only bring you
 to the Press RETURN to
 get started. screen of the 2501.  I want to be able
 to terminate the tcp
 session to the 2511 without closing the telnet
 application.
 
 -Frank
 
 
  On Thu, 24 May
 2001, Erick B. wrote:
 
  I sent a reply to this earlier. This is a
  telnet-client issue (your windows telnet client).
 The
  windows telnet client has a disconnect option that
  will disconnect the session and keep the telnet
 window
  open, or you can click on the X or alt-f4 the
 window.
  You can also do 'logout' on router which should
  disconnect it.
  
  If you are looking to suspend and resume your
 telnet
  session, then the windows client will not do this.
 You
  will have to open multiple telnet windows, or
 telnet
  into the 2511 and reverse telnet from there. When
  you're telneting from the 2511 the 2511 lets you
  suspend/resume session by using the escape
 sequence. 
  
  If you're looking for a control-] style
 suspend/resume
  which is common in unix platforms then you'll have
 to
  look around for a unix-like telnet client for
 windows
  that has that functionality. 
  
  Ie:
  
  I telnet'd to a cisco router from a unix box, and
 hit
  control-] and got this:
  
  telnet ?
  Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:
  
  close   close current connection
  display display operating parameters
  modetry to enter line or character
 mode
  ('mode ?' for more)
  openconnect to a site
  quitexit telnet
  sendtransmit special characters ('send
 ?'
  for more)
  set set operating parameters ('set ?'
 for
  more)
  unset   unset operating parameters ('unset
 ?'
  for more)
  status  print status information
  toggle  toggle operating parameters
 ('toggle
  ?' for more)
  slc change state of special charaters
  ('slc ?' for more)
  !   run a TI command
  environ change environment variables
 ('environ
  ?' for more)
  ?   print help information
  telnet
  
  Erick
  
  --- Frank Kim  wrote:
   Phil,
   Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me
   clarify.  I sit on an NT
   box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then
 run,
   then i type in: telnet
   192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the
   console of my 2501.  Even
   I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over
 the
   2511, but it looks as if
   the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not
 use
   alias or type exit to
   get out of that session.  Because whatever
   'character' you input into the
   screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511. 
 So
   again, if a user has
   made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how
 can
   he exit out of that
   telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the
 telnet
   application?  Once
   again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x
   cannot be applied in this
   case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.
   
   -Frank
   
   
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:
   
OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511--
   async--2501.  You have opened a
session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via
   async line 2001 (through the
first physical port on your octal cable). 
 Your
   commands in the 2511
   (Telnet
Hyper Term Window) only effect your
 relationship
   with the 2511/2501 or
direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias
 only
   gives you a custom
shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show
 IP
   BGP Neighbors might be made
to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the
 2511
   Telnet ( leave the 2511
connection up) is to simply close your Telnet
   window.  You can shortcut the
exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.

Have I misconstrued ???
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Frank Kim 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with
 reverse-telnet
   [7:5686]


 Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste
 of
   bandwidth.  But so far, I
 think I have been misunderstood.  Here is
 what I
   got:

 1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
 2) one 2501, console's port is attached to
 line
   1 of 2511
 3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24

 I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet
 to
   192.168.1.1 using port
 2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a
   router.  So 

Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Frank Kim

Let's make it simple.  Let's ignore the factor that there is a 2501
attached to a 2511's line 1.  Just plain simple.  You have:

1) 2511 router with e0 = 192.168.1.1/24
2) an NT box with ip address of 192.168.1.2/24

Assuming that you have configured line 1 on the 2511 with transport input
all and the rest.  You sit on your NT box and u telnet to 192.168.1.1
2001.  Now you want to kill that telnet session.  How will you do it
without closing the telnet application n or hitting a disconnect on the
telnet application nor getting into the 2511 and do a clear line 1.  Hope
you know where I'm getting at. 


-Frank


On Thu, 24 May 2001, Erick B. wrote:

 Your telnet session is terminated at the 2511 but the
 2511 redirects you out line 1 directly, so your not
 getting a console/terminal session from the 2511. If
 you telnet to the 2511 then out line 1, then your
 using the 2511 as a console/terminal session so it
 behaves differently. This is the way I understand it
 and best I can explain it. 
 
 --- Frank Kim  wrote:
  Erick,
  When you telnet into a 2511's ethernet address via
  port 2001 which as the
  2501 attached to it, you are actually on the console
  of the
  2501.  Pressing exit, logout, or quit at that poing
  does not terminate
  your tcp session to the 2511 but it only bring you
  to the Press RETURN to
  get started. screen of the 2501.  I want to be able
  to terminate the tcp
  session to the 2511 without closing the telnet
  application.
  
  -Frank
  
  
   On Thu, 24 May
  2001, Erick B. wrote:
  
   I sent a reply to this earlier. This is a
   telnet-client issue (your windows telnet client).
  The
   windows telnet client has a disconnect option that
   will disconnect the session and keep the telnet
  window
   open, or you can click on the X or alt-f4 the
  window.
   You can also do 'logout' on router which should
   disconnect it.
   
   If you are looking to suspend and resume your
  telnet
   session, then the windows client will not do this.
  You
   will have to open multiple telnet windows, or
  telnet
   into the 2511 and reverse telnet from there. When
   you're telneting from the 2511 the 2511 lets you
   suspend/resume session by using the escape
  sequence. 
   
   If you're looking for a control-] style
  suspend/resume
   which is common in unix platforms then you'll have
  to
   look around for a unix-like telnet client for
  windows
   that has that functionality. 
   
   Ie:
   
   I telnet'd to a cisco router from a unix box, and
  hit
   control-] and got this:
   
   telnet ?
   Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:
   
   close   close current connection
   display display operating parameters
   modetry to enter line or character
  mode
   ('mode ?' for more)
   openconnect to a site
   quitexit telnet
   sendtransmit special characters ('send
  ?'
   for more)
   set set operating parameters ('set ?'
  for
   more)
   unset   unset operating parameters ('unset
  ?'
   for more)
   status  print status information
   toggle  toggle operating parameters
  ('toggle
   ?' for more)
   slc change state of special charaters
   ('slc ?' for more)
   !   run a TI command
   environ change environment variables
  ('environ
   ?' for more)
   ?   print help information
   telnet
   
   Erick
   
   --- Frank Kim  wrote:
Phil,
Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me
clarify.  I sit on an NT
box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then
  run,
then i type in: telnet
192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the
console of my 2501.  Even
I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over
  the
2511, but it looks as if
the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not
  use
alias or type exit to
get out of that session.  Because whatever
'character' you input into the
screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511. 
  So
again, if a user has
made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how
  can
he exit out of that
telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the
  telnet
application?  Once
again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x
cannot be applied in this
case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.

-Frank


 On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:

 OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511--
async--2501.  You have opened a
 session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via
async line 2001 (through the
 first physical port on your octal cable). 
  Your
commands in the 2511
(Telnet
 Hyper Term Window) only effect your
  relationship
with the 2511/2501 or
 direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias
  only
gives you a custom
 shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show
  IP
BGP Neighbors might be made
 to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the
  2511
Telnet ( 

Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-24 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

So what you are saying is use a 14 TerraHertz gamma ray deionizing 12 bolt
chrome ray gun is the way to end that connection. Am I wrong.
Don

- Original Message -
From: Frank Kim 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]


 Let's make it simple.  Let's ignore the factor that there is a 2501
 attached to a 2511's line 1.  Just plain simple.  You have:

 1) 2511 router with e0 = 192.168.1.1/24
 2) an NT box with ip address of 192.168.1.2/24

 Assuming that you have configured line 1 on the 2511 with transport input
 all and the rest.  You sit on your NT box and u telnet to 192.168.1.1
 2001.  Now you want to kill that telnet session.  How will you do it
 without closing the telnet application n or hitting a disconnect on the
 telnet application nor getting into the 2511 and do a clear line 1.  Hope
 you know where I'm getting at.


 -Frank


 On Thu, 24 May 2001, Erick B. wrote:

  Your telnet session is terminated at the 2511 but the
  2511 redirects you out line 1 directly, so your not
  getting a console/terminal session from the 2511. If
  you telnet to the 2511 then out line 1, then your
  using the 2511 as a console/terminal session so it
  behaves differently. This is the way I understand it
  and best I can explain it.
 
  --- Frank Kim  wrote:
   Erick,
   When you telnet into a 2511's ethernet address via
   port 2001 which as the
   2501 attached to it, you are actually on the console
   of the
   2501.  Pressing exit, logout, or quit at that poing
   does not terminate
   your tcp session to the 2511 but it only bring you
   to the Press RETURN to
   get started. screen of the 2501.  I want to be able
   to terminate the tcp
   session to the 2511 without closing the telnet
   application.
  
   -Frank
  
  
On Thu, 24 May
   2001, Erick B. wrote:
  
I sent a reply to this earlier. This is a
telnet-client issue (your windows telnet client).
   The
windows telnet client has a disconnect option that
will disconnect the session and keep the telnet
   window
open, or you can click on the X or alt-f4 the
   window.
You can also do 'logout' on router which should
disconnect it.
   
If you are looking to suspend and resume your
   telnet
session, then the windows client will not do this.
   You
will have to open multiple telnet windows, or
   telnet
into the 2511 and reverse telnet from there. When
you're telneting from the 2511 the 2511 lets you
suspend/resume session by using the escape
   sequence.
   
If you're looking for a control-] style
   suspend/resume
which is common in unix platforms then you'll have
   to
look around for a unix-like telnet client for
   windows
that has that functionality.
   
Ie:
   
I telnet'd to a cisco router from a unix box, and
   hit
control-] and got this:
   
telnet ?
Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:
   
close   close current connection
display display operating parameters
modetry to enter line or character
   mode
('mode ?' for more)
openconnect to a site
quitexit telnet
sendtransmit special characters ('send
   ?'
for more)
set set operating parameters ('set ?'
   for
more)
unset   unset operating parameters ('unset
   ?'
for more)
status  print status information
toggle  toggle operating parameters
   ('toggle
?' for more)
slc change state of special charaters
('slc ?' for more)
!   run a TI command
environ change environment variables
   ('environ
?' for more)
?   print help information
telnet
   
Erick
   
--- Frank Kim  wrote:
 Phil,
 Yes you have misunderstood once again.  Let me
 clarify.  I sit on an NT
 box.  I use my mouse to click on start, then
   run,
 then i type in: telnet
 192.168.1.1 2001 which brings me straight to the
 console of my 2501.  Even
 I am accessing my 2501 via a TCP session over
   the
 2511, but it looks as if
 the 2511 isn't there.  Therefore, you can not
   use
 alias or type exit to
 get out of that session.  Because whatever
 'character' you input into the
 screen is for the 2501's console, not the 2511.
   So
 again, if a user has
 made a telnet session to 192.168.1.1 2001, how
   can
 he exit out of that
 telnet session WITHOUT having to 'close' the
   telnet
 application?  Once
 again, the 'exit' command nor the ctrl-shift-6 x
 cannot be applied in this
 case.  Let me know if I'm still confusing you.

 -Frank


  On Thu, 24 May 2001, Circusnuts wrote:

  OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511--
 async--2501.  You have opened a
  session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via
 async line 2001

Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-23 Thread Circusnuts

OK- you have NT client (Telnet)--2511-- async--2501.  You have opened a
session with the 2511, to access the 2501 via async line 2001 (through the
first physical port on your octal cable).  Your commands in the 2511 (Telnet
Hyper Term Window) only effect your relationship with the 2511/2501 or
direct configurations to the 2511.  An  Alias only gives you a custom
shortcut command, that you dictate (ex: Show IP BGP Neighbors might be made
to work as SIBN).  The best way to exit the 2511 Telnet ( leave the 2511
connection up) is to simply close your Telnet window.  You can shortcut the
exit statement, maybe an Alias of E.

Have I misconstrued ???
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Frank Kim 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:51 AM
Subject: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]


 Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of bandwidth.  But so far, I
 think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I got:

 1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
 2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of 2511
 3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24

 I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to 192.168.1.1 using port
 2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router.  So ctrl-shift-6 x will
 not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is to be able to exit
 from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such as control-] or
 so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not work.

 I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for any help.

 -Frank
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Re: CLARIFICATION: 2511 with reverse-telnet [7:5686]

2001-05-23 Thread Erick B.

Well, to exit/suspend the telnet session is a
telnet-client feature. Lets say you had a unix-like
telnet client - most of them allow control-] which
will take you to the telnet client menu which will let
you change options, close session, etc. I don't think
the standard windows telnet programs do this sort of
thing. 'exit' doesn't work, but 'logout' will end the
telnet session and your telnet client will do whatever
it does when it see's a telnet session disconnection. 

HTH, Erick

--- Frank Kim  wrote:
 Okay guys.  I am really sorry for the waste of
 bandwidth.  But so far, I
 think I have been misunderstood.  Here is what I
 got:
 
 1) 2511 with e0  = 192.168.1.1/24
 2) one 2501, console's port is attached to line 1 of
 2511
 3) one NT box with ip of 192.168.1.2/24
 
 I sit on my NT box and I initiate a telnet to
 192.168.1.1 using port
 2001.  Remember, I am not doing it from a router. 
 So ctrl-shift-6 x will
 not suspend my session.  What I would like to do is
 to be able to exit
 from the telnet session by typing a keystroke such
 as control-] or
 so.  And one more thing, typing 'exit' does not
 work.  
 
 I apologize for all misunderstanding.  Thanks for
 any help.
 
 -Frank
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