RE: Higher than CCIE...
And exactly what problem would this solve? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" winmail.dat
RE: Higher than CCIE...
I didn't say that it would necessarily solve any problems. I was just saying that it could give somebody who thinks that they have reached the top another goal to try to excel to. Plus, who wouldn't want a cert recognising the fact that they have mastered all of the cisco certs...big and small. I'm just trying to get others ideas on this. I'm not trying to solve a problem because I don't see any. Thanks, --Original Message-- From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Generation Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: August 27, 2000 7:05:39 AM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... And exactly what problem would this solve? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, ( El CID ) One Certification to rule them all One Certification to find them One Certification to bring them all And in the Networks bind them In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" winmail.dat
RE: Higher than CCIE...
Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. Rob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, ( El > CID ) > > > One Certification to rule them all > One Certification to find them > One Certification to bring them all > And in the Networks bind them > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > Hey Group, > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's > is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a > new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE > tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all > three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the > cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and > this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't > think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my > eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > one...Have a good one group. > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also > comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > winmail.dat
Re: Higher than CCIE...
The Cisco CCIE is arguably the most difficult certification to attain in the Data/Telecom industry. No, it is not the only certification out there, and I don't plan on stopping my pursuit of further certifications once I attain the CCIE, but those who have attained CCIE status deserve recognition. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Check your mail! To: Chuck Larrieu ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 12:45 PM Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. Rob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, ( El > CID ) > > > One Certification to rule them all > One Certification to find them > One Certification to bring them all > And in the Networks bind them > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Higher than CCIE... > > Hey Group, > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's > is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a > new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE > tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all > three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the > cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and > this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't > think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my > eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > one...Have a good one group. > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also > comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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they sure do deserve recognition . if we do not commend them now who will commend us when e get our CCIE certification :-) -Original Message- From: Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Higher than CCIE... >The Cisco CCIE is arguably the most difficult certification to attain in the >Data/Telecom industry. No, it is not the only certification out there, and >I don't plan on stopping my pursuit of further certifications once I attain >the CCIE, but those who have attained CCIE status deserve recognition. > >Sincerely, > >Bradley J. Wilson >CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT > > >- Original Message - >From: Check your mail! >To: Chuck Larrieu ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 12:45 PM >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > >Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look at >the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > >Rob > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >> >> >> The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, ( El >> CID ) >> >> >> One Certification to rule them all >> One Certification to find them >> One Certification to bring them all >> And in the Networks bind them >> In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Higher than CCIE... >> >> Hey Group, >> I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's >> is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a >> new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE >> tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all >> three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the >> cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and >> this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't >> think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my >> eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I >> mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this >> one...Have a good one group. >> >> P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also >> comment on this topic...thanks. :) >> >> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA >> E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ~Internetwork Essentials~ >> "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" >> > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tell me a test in Networking that is harder and more respected than the CCIE and I will agree with you... Until then I think I'll stay away from Bay ;) Mark Z. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Let's look at an area where certification is well established: medicine. New medical school graduates have to pass the test of the National Board of Medical Examiners. Call that the doctor's CCNA. It's entry level to internship. Most physicians who do not further subspecialize will do 3-4 years of combined internship/residency in an approved program. Depending on the field, they complete an approved residency program and may take tests to become "Board eligible". Board certification usually requires some time in practice, and possibly case presentations as well as tests. For internal medicine, the specialty board is the American College of Physicians. "diplomates" are board-eligible, while a board certified internest is a Fellow of the ACP (FACP). Let's say you complete an internal medicine residency and want to specialize further. You go on to a fellowship of several years, in cardiology, infectious disease, gastroenterology, etc. Each of these subspecialty boards has its own approved program of training and certification. So, Dr. X goes through another several years and meets the requirements of the American College of Cardiology. Dr. X is now FACP, FACC, although most cardiologists would just write FACC. Now, the good cardiologist wants to subspecialize even more. There are higher-level fellowship programs, such as angioplasty, electrophysiology, etc. While these "tertiary" specialties have professional organizations, they don't typically have exams as such. Instead, the control on practitioners is that you must have demonstrate advanced training and a certain number of supervised cases before a hospital will give you credentials to do the procedures. There are various interdisciplinary specialties, such as pediatric general cardiology, where you might have a pediatrics and cardiology certification. My point here is that the more specialized physicians, such as invasive cardiologists that limit their practice to angiography and angioplasty remain busy full-time doing just that. The question really comes up with respect to networking certification: who would want someone who is a specialist in everything? At some point, you need real experience, and typically in a specialty. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. CCIE R&S CCIE WAN Switching CCIE ISP Dial CCIE SNA-IP CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) CCIE Security (in development) CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work better. By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) --Mike -Original Message- From: Generation Cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM Subject: Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wasn't exactly sure how many there were but I knew there were more than 3. Just couldn't remember them all ;) At least with all these CCIE tests nobody can stop workin at it. Thank god, at the rate I'm going I will probably have my CCIE at 24 (3 years) and after that I would just feel old because I had reached my goal. With all these CCIE tests at least I'll have something to work harder on. ;) --Original Message-- From: "Coker, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Generation Cisco ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: August 27, 2000 8:01:59 PM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. CCIE R&S CCIE WAN Switching CCIE ISP Dial CCIE SNA-IP CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) CCIE Security (in development) CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work better. By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) --Mike -Original Message- From: Generation Cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM Subject: Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Higher than CCIE...
Then you're limiting your network device knowledge to just the world of Cisco. What do you do when you have to go configure/fix a Bay/Nortel/3Com/whatever box? Tell them to buy Cisco? When in reality, the other box works just as well or better. I hold multiple Cisco and Bay/Nortel certifications, and some others but I do certs for fun and one can tell if someone knows their stuff or not by talking w/them for a few minutes. Plus theirs the attitude/ego factor... some people think they are "god" after they achieve x cert and don't care about others anymore and change completely for some reason. I distance myself from these types. .E --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tell me a test in Networking that is harder and more > respected than the CCIE and I will agree with you... > Until then I think I'll stay away from Bay ;) > > Mark Z. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But what if you started at a young age and had time to get all of these things banged out by the time you were 35 and then tried to find a company that specializes in them all. I would want to get these certs, if not for the money, just simply for the hunt. I just love the rush of seeing "congradulations" at the end of a cisco test. I do agree with you on your point of why a company would hire someone who knew it all when they just wanted a piece of their brain. I also think, on the other hand, that the sky is not the limit and the only way to get higher in life...is to get better at what you do. By the way, I did a double-take when I saw that you replied to one of my posts. I know that you are a very respected man in this field and wanted you to know that I appreciate your time in writing on this topic. Thank you from a young hopeful, Mark Z. ~ CCNA, CCDA --Original Message-- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 27, 2000 7:53:48 PM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Let's look at an area where certification is well established: medicine. New medical school graduates have to pass the test of the National Board of Medical Examiners. Call that the doctor's CCNA. It's entry level to internship. Most physicians who do not further subspecialize will do 3-4 years of combined internship/residency in an approved program. Depending on the field, they complete an approved residency program and may take tests to become "Board eligible". Board certification usually requires some time in practice, and possibly case presentations as well as tests. For internal medicine, the specialty board is the American College of Physicians. "diplomates" are board-eligible, while a board certified internest is a Fellow of the ACP (FACP). Let's say you complete an internal medicine residency and want to specialize further. You go on to a fellowship of several years, in cardiology, infectious disease, gastroenterology, etc. Each of these subspecialty boards has its own approved program of training and certification. So, Dr. X goes through another several years and meets the requirements of the American College of Cardiology. Dr. X is now FACP, FACC, although most cardiologists would just write FACC. Now, the good cardiologist wants to subspecialize even more. There are higher-level fellowship programs, such as angioplasty, electrophysiology, etc. While these "tertiary" specialties have professional organizations, they don't typically have exams as such. Instead, the control on practitioners is that you must have demonstrate advanced training and a certain number of supervised cases before a hospital will give you credentials to do the procedures. There are various interdisciplinary specialties, such as pediatric general cardiology, where you might have a pediatrics and cardiology certification. My point here is that the more specialized physicians, such as invasive cardiologists that limit their practice to angiography and angioplasty remain busy full-time doing just that. The question really comes up with respect to networking certification: who would want someone who is a specialist in everything? At some point, you need real experience, and typically in a specialty. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At which point one might consider other pursuits - skydiving, scuba diving, coaching Little League, climbing Anapurna, reading Toynbee's The Study of History, volunteering at an old folks home, cultivating real friendships and loving relationships. There is plenty in life to master, and not all things must be determined by Cisco or other technology vendors. :-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Generation Cisco Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:09 PM To: Coker, Michael Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... I wasn't exactly sure how many there were but I knew there were more than 3. Just couldn't remember them all ;) At least with all these CCIE tests nobody can stop workin at it. Thank god, at the rate I'm going I will probably have my CCIE at 24 (3 years) and after that I would just feel old because I had reached my goal. With all these CCIE tests at least I'll have something to work harder on. ;) --Original Message-- From: "Coker, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Generation Cisco ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: August 27, 2000 8:01:59 PM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. CCIE R&S CCIE WAN Switching CCIE ISP Dial CCIE SNA-IP CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) CCIE Security (in development) CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work better. By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) --Mike -Original Message- From: Generation Cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM Subject: Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I suppose if I have to explain the kennings, then the joke isn't really that goodÂ…. No, dammit, the joke actually is pretty good. This time. For a change. :-> -Original Message- From: Check your mail! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:46 AM To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, ( El CID ) One Certification to rule them all One Certification to find them One Certification to bring them all And in the Networks bind them In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" winmail.dat
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...volunteering at an old folks home... Why am I thinking of Trey Parker and Matt Stone right now? ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Generation Cisco Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:09 PM To: Coker, Michael Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... I wasn't exactly sure how many there were but I knew there were more than 3. Just couldn't remember them all ;) At least with all these CCIE tests nobody can stop workin at it. Thank god, at the rate I'm going I will probably have my CCIE at 24 (3 years) and after that I would just feel old because I had reached my goal. With all these CCIE tests at least I'll have something to work harder on. ;) --Original Message-- From: "Coker, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Generation Cisco ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: August 27, 2000 8:01:59 PM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. CCIE R&S CCIE WAN Switching CCIE ISP Dial CCIE SNA-IP CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) CCIE Security (in development) CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work better. By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) --Mike -Original Message- From: Generation Cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM Subject: Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I pretty much like the Design CCIE to make myself feel like a guru come deity come all-seeing god. But my suggestion would be to meditate on this for 40 days and nights, before you get your final answer. And don't worry, it's not 42. It's always 56. Your lowly CCWB subject. -Original Message- From: Coker, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 4:02 AM To: 'Generation Cisco '; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. CCIE R&S CCIE WAN Switching CCIE ISP Dial CCIE SNA-IP CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) CCIE Security (in development) CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work better. By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) --Mike -Original Message- From: Generation Cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM Subject: Higher than CCIE... Hey Group, I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this one...Have a good one group. P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this topic...thanks. :) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Internetwork Essentials~ "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" ___ To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe jobs ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in the industry. Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs you do have. jh > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look > at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > Rob > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking Deity, > ( El CID ) > > > One Certification to rule them all > One Certification to find them > One Certification to bring them all > And in the Networks bind them > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > Hey Group, > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > one...Have a good one group. > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could > also comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > winmail.dat
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That sounds like a good plan, actually...for about four or maybe five years, at which point the technology becomes outdated and "legacy" and then you need to go out certification-hunting all over again... ;-) Better to make it a habit than a necessity. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: John Hobbs To: Check your mail! ; Chuck Larrieu ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 1:36 AM Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in the industry. Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs you do have. jh > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, look > at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > Rob ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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its true...will there soon be a break in the CCIE lab for milk and cookies...? (you don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn) alex (respecting yo' authoratah) >From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:14:12 -0400 > > >...volunteering at an old folks home... > >Why am I thinking of Trey Parker and Matt Stone right now? ;-) > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Generation Cisco >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:09 PM >To: Coker, Michael >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >I wasn't exactly sure how many there were but I knew there were more than >3. >Just couldn't remember them all ;) At least with all these CCIE tests >nobody can stop workin at it. Thank god, at the rate I'm going I will >probably have my CCIE at 24 (3 years) and after that I would just feel old >because I had reached my goal. With all these CCIE tests at least I'll have >something to work harder on. ;) > >--Original Message-- >From: "Coker, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 'Generation Cisco ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] >'" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: August 27, 2000 8:01:59 PM GMT >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > >Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. > >CCIE R&S >CCIE WAN Switching >CCIE ISP Dial >CCIE SNA-IP >CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) >CCIE Security (in development) >CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) > >Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming >soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. >So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time >on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work >better. >By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more >new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) > >--Mike >-Original Message- >From: Generation Cisco >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM >Subject: Higher than CCIE... > >Hey Group, >I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at >a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. >The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From >what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I >think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: >CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and >this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't >think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my >eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I >mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this >one...Have a good one group. > >P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this >topic...thanks. :) > >Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA >E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >~Internetwork Essentials~ >"Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" >Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Internetwork Essentials > >The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: >It depends... > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 8/28/00 6:41:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << >Get a life! >> Thats exactly what I'm working on now. So when I'm older and my kids ask me how I could afford to send them to good schools, I can tell them 3 things... Hard work, Determination, and above all...not listening to morons like you that try to bring me down. >Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - The only good advice you posted in this letter... I think I will get a dog, thanks. you sound << like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in the industry. Well...not every cert... >> Or go to work for Cisco - That's what I plan on doing... By the way, If you wanted to get that message across to me you could have flamed my mailbox and not shown the group that you know how to put people down. It makes you seem childish. Next time write to me...good luck in your career, ;) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year killing everyone inside. ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Are your lambs silent now, or are they still bleating ?" Regs, Phil. --- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > > At which point one might consider other pursuits - > skydiving, scuba diving, > > coaching Little League, climbing Anapurna, reading > Toynbee's The Study of > > History, volunteering at an old folks home, > cultivating real friendships and > > loving relationships. There is plenty in life to > master, and not all things > > must be determined by Cisco or other technology > vendors. :-> > > But that's only deferring the problem, even if you > use combos of some or > all of the above. I mean, they're certainly > worthwhile pursuits, but > once you sky-dived on top of the Anapurna wearing an > aqua-lung and > reading Toynbee's on your way down, what are you > gonna do next? :-) > > -- > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you > want to experience > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty > Rhoades. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I havn't found the start of this thread, so I hope you don't mind me interrupting here. I think I would be tempted to get one CCIE cert first and then re-evaluate your position. From a marketing angle I don't think you'll generate many more $$$/hour having all five than just holding one CCIE cert. Even holding one cert will give you the respect of your peers. If its knowledge you crave, then study for life and you'll probably feel less anxious about proving how good you are through pieces of paper. I tend to use my bits of paper when I feel that I need to which is generally once a year when I'm looking for a contract. Good Luck and keep watching the skies Phil. --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But what if you started at a young age and had time > to get all of > >these things banged out by the time you were 35 and > then tried to > >find a company that specializes in them all. > > One of the little things that bugs me in life is > seeing ads for a car > repair shop that "specializes in all foreign and > domestic cars." > > It has been said that a generalist knows less and > less about more and > more until he eventually knows nothing about > everything, while a > specialist knows more and more about less and less > until he > eventually knows everything about nothing. > > >I would want to get these certs, if not for the > money, just simply > >for the hunt. > > Let me simply say there's more than one kind of game > to hunt. > There's a rush to seeing your name on an RFC or > book. There's a rush > when I see that I have massively simplified a > network design > (thinking of how I once moved one router from > distribution to core > and did away with the need for 100 static routes). > There's a rush to > figuring out the problem that an incoherent customer > thinks they want > to solve. > > At one time, I did rather pure IBM networking, > including VTAM and NCP > gens. I could probably fumble my way through one > today, but I'm > certainly not current and someone else would do > better. But I'm > incredibly better at IP routing than I was back in > the days when > subnets hadn't been invented. > > > > >I just love the rush of seeing "congradulations" at > the end of a > >cisco test. I do agree with you on your point of > why a company would > >hire someone who knew it all when they just wanted > a piece of their > >brain. I also think, on the other hand, that the > sky is not the > >limit and the only way to get higher in life...is > to get better at > >what you do. By the way, I did a double-take when I > saw that you > >replied to one of my posts. I know that you are a > very respected man > >in this field and wanted you to know that I > appreciate your time in > >writing on this topic. Thank you from a young > hopeful, > > > You posted something thought-provoking and worth > replying to. > > > > >Mark Z. ~ CCNA, CCDA > > > > > >The most classic answer to many of the questions > that deals with > >networks: It depends... > > > > And when your client won't accept that and demands a > "quantitative > answer," 42 works very well. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>But what if you started at a young age and had time to get all of >these things banged out by the time you were 35 and then tried to >find a company that specializes in them all. One of the little things that bugs me in life is seeing ads for a car repair shop that "specializes in all foreign and domestic cars." It has been said that a generalist knows less and less about more and more until he eventually knows nothing about everything, while a specialist knows more and more about less and less until he eventually knows everything about nothing. >I would want to get these certs, if not for the money, just simply >for the hunt. Let me simply say there's more than one kind of game to hunt. There's a rush to seeing your name on an RFC or book. There's a rush when I see that I have massively simplified a network design (thinking of how I once moved one router from distribution to core and did away with the need for 100 static routes). There's a rush to figuring out the problem that an incoherent customer thinks they want to solve. At one time, I did rather pure IBM networking, including VTAM and NCP gens. I could probably fumble my way through one today, but I'm certainly not current and someone else would do better. But I'm incredibly better at IP routing than I was back in the days when subnets hadn't been invented. >I just love the rush of seeing "congradulations" at the end of a >cisco test. I do agree with you on your point of why a company would >hire someone who knew it all when they just wanted a piece of their >brain. I also think, on the other hand, that the sky is not the >limit and the only way to get higher in life...is to get better at >what you do. By the way, I did a double-take when I saw that you >replied to one of my posts. I know that you are a very respected man >in this field and wanted you to know that I appreciate your time in >writing on this topic. Thank you from a young hopeful, You posted something thought-provoking and worth replying to. > >Mark Z. ~ CCNA, CCDA > > >The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with >networks: It depends... > And when your client won't accept that and demands a "quantitative answer," 42 works very well. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with you on this but I just cant fathom trying to learn 2 different technologies like this at the same time. What I plan on doing is knocking cisco out of the picture and then (if cisco hasn't completely taken over the market) I would move on to other smaller things (that was a joke) ;) --Original Message-- From: "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 27, 2000 8:21:31 PM GMT Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Then you're limiting your network device knowledge to just the world of Cisco. What do you do when you have to go configure/fix a Bay/Nortel/3Com/whatever box? Tell them to buy Cisco? When in reality, the other box works just as well or better. I hold multiple Cisco and Bay/Nortel certifications, and some others but I do certs for fun and one can tell if someone knows their stuff or not by talking w/them for a few minutes. Plus theirs the attitude/ego factor... some people think they are "god" after they achieve x cert and don't care about others anymore and change completely for some reason. I distance myself from these types. ..E --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tell me a test in Networking that is harder and more > respected than the CCIE and I will agree with you... > Until then I think I'll stay away from Bay ;) > > Mark Z. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internetwork Essentials The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: It depends... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for your advice and insight Howard. It's well taken in. Especially the 42 instead of "it depends" ;) Have a good one, Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IF you only KNEW!! Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ Technical Mercenary > -Original Message- > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in the > industry. > > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs you > do have. > > jh > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > Rob > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > Deity, ( El CID ) > > > One Certification to rule them all > One Certification to find them > One Certification to bring them all > And in the Networks bind them > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > Hey Group, > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > one...Have a good one group. > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could > also comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > winmail.dat
RE: Higher than CCIE...
PS Paper, paper is all it is. Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ Technical Mercenary > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in the > industry. > > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs you > do have. > > jh > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > Rob > >-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > Deity, ( El CID ) > > > One Certification to rule them all > One Certification to find them > One Certification to bring them all > And in the Networks bind them > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > Hey Group, > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who has > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > one...Have a good one group. > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could > also comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > winmail.dat
RE: Higher than CCIE...
What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my friend. >From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 > >IF you only KNEW!! >Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ >Technical Mercenary > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound > > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in >the > > industry. > > > > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs >you > > do have. > > > > jh > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > > > Rob > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > > Deity, ( El CID ) > > > > > > One Certification to rule them all > > One Certification to find them > > One Certification to bring them all > > And in the Networks bind them > > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > > > Hey Group, > > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all >three > > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who >has > > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could >name > > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something >like > > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) > > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, > > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > > one...Have a good one group. > > > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could > > also comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > > ><< winmail.dat >> _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Higher than CCIE...
Sesame Street Certs? From Nortel, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, and CompTIA??? I think not... BUT: Hmmm... My kids could go for some Sesame Street certs: SSCEF Sesame Street Certified Elmo Fanatic SSCCMA Sesame Street Certified Cookie Monster Afficionado SSCSGE Sesame Street Certified Super Grover Emulator SSCKTFAS "" Certified Kermit the Frog Alphabet Sayer My twin girls could nail all of these certs no problem... I hear that they are working on a certification with Bert and Ernie which would involve a lab where you have to put down a duckie and play a saxaphone, then dance "the pidgeon"! Now *THAT'S* a lab!!! Dale [=`) >From: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:16:54 CDT > >What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my >friend. > > > >>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 >> >>IF you only KNEW!! >>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ >>Technical Mercenary >> >> > -----Original Message- >> > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM >> > To:Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you >>sound >> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in >>the >> > industry. >> > >> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs >>you >> > do have. >> > >> > jh >> > >> > -Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM >> >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> >Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, >> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. >> > >> >Rob >> > >> > -Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > >> >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> > >> >The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking >> > Deity, ( El CID ) >> > >> > >> >One Certification to rule them all >> >One Certification to find them >> >One Certification to bring them all >> >And in the Networks bind them >> >In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie >> > >> > >> > >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:Higher than CCIE... >> > >> >Hey Group, >> >I was pondering this thought. If the rate of >> > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco >> > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all >>three >> > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who >>has >> > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could >>name >> > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something >>like >> > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) >> > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert >>would, >> > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if
Re: Higher than CCIE...
Here we go again. There is also the SSCCWC Sesame Street Certified Count With the Count Gotta love that furry little vampire. Duck - Original Message - From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > Sesame Street Certs? From Nortel, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, and CompTIA??? I > think not... BUT: > > Hmmm... My kids could go for some Sesame Street certs: > > SSCEF Sesame Street Certified Elmo Fanatic > SSCCMA Sesame Street Certified Cookie Monster Afficionado > SSCSGE Sesame Street Certified Super Grover Emulator > SSCKTFAS "" Certified Kermit the Frog Alphabet Sayer > > My twin girls could nail all of these certs no problem... I hear that they > are working on a certification with Bert and Ernie which would involve a lab > where you have to put down a duckie and play a saxaphone, then dance "the > pidgeon"! Now *THAT'S* a lab!!! > > Dale > [=`) > > >From: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:16:54 CDT > > > >What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my > >friend. > > > > > > > >>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 > >> > >>IF you only KNEW!! > >>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ > >>Technical Mercenary > >> > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > >> > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you > >>sound > >> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in > >>the > >> > industry. > >> > > >> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs > >>you > >> > do have. > >> > > >> > jh > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > >> > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > >> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > >> > > >> > Rob > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > > >> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > > >> > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > >> > Deity, ( El CID ) > >> > > >> > > >> > One Certification to rule them all > >> > One Certification to find them > >> > One Certification to bring them all > >> > And in the Networks bind them > >> > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > Hey Group, > >> > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > >> > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > >> > created a new cert. The way to obt
RE: Higher than CCIE...
Don't forget the: SSCOE Sesame Street Certified Oscar Extraordinaire SSCBBMB " " Certified Big Bird MAster Browser TGIF -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 5:38 PM To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Higher than CCIE... Here we go again. There is also the SSCCWC Sesame Street Certified Count With the Count Gotta love that furry little vampire. Duck - Original Message - From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > Sesame Street Certs? From Nortel, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, and CompTIA??? I > think not... BUT: > > Hmmm... My kids could go for some Sesame Street certs: > > SSCEF Sesame Street Certified Elmo Fanatic > SSCCMA Sesame Street Certified Cookie Monster Afficionado > SSCSGE Sesame Street Certified Super Grover Emulator > SSCKTFAS "" Certified Kermit the Frog Alphabet Sayer > > My twin girls could nail all of these certs no problem... I hear that they > are working on a certification with Bert and Ernie which would involve a lab > where you have to put down a duckie and play a saxaphone, then dance "the > pidgeon"! Now *THAT'S* a lab!!! > > Dale > [=`) > > >From: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:16:54 CDT > > > >What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my > >friend. > > > > > > > >>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 > >> > >>IF you only KNEW!! > >>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ > >>Technical Mercenary > >> > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > >> > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you > >>sound > >> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in > >>the > >> > industry. > >> > > >> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs > >>you > >> > do have. > >> > > >> > jh > >> > > >> > -----Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > >> > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > >> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > >> > > >> > Rob > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > > >> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >> > > >> > > >> > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > >> > Deity, ( El CID ) > >> > > >> > > >> > One Certification to rule them all > >> > One Certification to find them > >> > One Certification to bring them all > >> > And in the Networks bind them > >> > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] &
RE: Higher than CCIE...
You are funny. NOT -Original Message- From: jaime salazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my friend. >From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 > >IF you only KNEW!! >Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ >Technical Mercenary > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM > > To: Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you sound > > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in >the > > industry. > > > > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs >you > > do have. > > > > jh > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM > > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, > > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. > > > > Rob > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... > > > > > > The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking > > Deity, ( El CID ) > > > > > > One Certification to rule them all > > One Certification to find them > > One Certification to bring them all > > And in the Networks bind them > > In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Higher than CCIE... > > > > Hey Group, > > I was pondering this thought. If the rate of > > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco > > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all >three > > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who >has > > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could >name > > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something >like > > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) > > Don't think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, > > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I > > mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this > > one...Have a good one group. > > > > P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could > > also comment on this topic...thanks. :) > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA > > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~Internetwork Essentials~ > > "Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" > > ><< winmail.dat >> _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Higher than CCIE...
How do I get more info on the SSCCMA? Rob -Original Message- From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... Sesame Street Certs? From Nortel, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, and CompTIA??? I think not... BUT: Hmmm... My kids could go for some Sesame Street certs: SSCEF Sesame Street Certified Elmo Fanatic SSCCMA Sesame Street Certified Cookie Monster Afficionado SSCSGE Sesame Street Certified Super Grover Emulator SSCKTFAS "" Certified Kermit the Frog Alphabet Sayer My twin girls could nail all of these certs no problem... I hear that they are working on a certification with Bert and Ernie which would involve a lab where you have to put down a duckie and play a saxaphone, then dance "the pidgeon"! Now *THAT'S* a lab!!! Dale [=`) >From: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:16:54 CDT > >What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my >friend. > > > >>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500 >> >>IF you only KNEW!! >>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+ >>Technical Mercenary >> >> > -----Original Message- >> > From: John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM >> > To:Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> > Get a life! Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you >>sound >> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in >>the >> > industry. >> > >> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs >>you >> > do have. >> > >> > jh >> > >> > -Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM >> >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> >Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all, >> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types. >> > >> >Rob >> > >> > -Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > >> >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE... >> > >> > >> >The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking >> > Deity, ( El CID ) >> > >> > >> >One Certification to rule them all >> >One Certification to find them >> >One Certification to bring them all >> >And in the Networks bind them >> >In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie >> > >> > >> > >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject:Higher than CCIE... >> > >> >Hey Group, >> >I was pondering this thought. If the rate of >> > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco >> > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all >>three >> > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who >>has >> > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They c
Re: Re: Higher than CCIE...
Want to pass the CCIE lab? Sneak out of the house tonight after you get tucked into bed, and meet at Carl's Warehouse. ..punch and pie. alex campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its true...will there soon be a break in the CCIE lab for milk and cookies...? (you don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn) alex (respecting yo' authoratah) >From: "Bradley J. Wilson" >Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" >To: >Subject: Re: Higher than CCIE... >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:14:12 -0400 > > >...volunteering at an old folks home... > >Why am I thinking of Trey Parker and Matt Stone right now? ;-) > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Generation Cisco >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:09 PM >To: Coker, Michael >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > >I wasn't exactly sure how many there were but I knew there were more than >3. >Just couldn't remember them all ;) At least with all these CCIE tests >nobody can stop workin at it. Thank god, at the rate I'm going I will >probably have my CCIE at 24 (3 years) and after that I would just feel old >because I had reached my goal. With all these CCIE tests at least I'll have >something to work harder on. ;) > >--Original Message-- >From: "Coker, Michael" >To: 'Generation Cisco ' , "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] >'" >, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" >Sent: August 27, 2000 8:01:59 PM GMT >Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE... > > >Interesting idea. However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications. > >CCIE R&S >CCIE WAN Switching >CCIE ISP Dial >CCIE SNA-IP >CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00) >CCIE Security (in development) >CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) > >Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming >soon and a possible 7th available in the near future. >So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time >on their hands. ; ) ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work >better. >By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more >new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc) > >--Mike >-Original Message- >From: Generation Cisco >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM >Subject: Higher than CCIE... > >Hey Group, >I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at >a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert. >The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From >what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I >think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert: >CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and >this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :) Don't >think they would use that one though, :) This type of cert would, in my >eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I >mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this >one...Have a good one group. > >P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this >topic...thanks. :) > >Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA >E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >~Internetwork Essentials~ >"Complete Solutions for Complex Networks" >Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Internetwork Essentials > >The most classic answer to many of the questions that deals with networks: >It depends... > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
