Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . HTH steve >From: "David Gollop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "David Gollop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is M4T > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
Sh frame map will show u the CIR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Skinner Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . HTH steve >From: "David Gollop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "David Gollop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is M4T > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered (defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: 1. metrics for routing protocols, and 2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display so it's important to have it set correctly. Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. Here's an explanation of EIR - also see http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and may be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, the EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k (bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered from the frame relay carrier. -e- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greg Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" statements on the subinterfaces? > > > Greg Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Stephen Skinner > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . > > HTH > > steve > > > >From: "David Gollop" > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact > >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > > > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 > >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > > Hardware is M4T > > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF > >_ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" statements on the subinterfaces? Greg Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sh frame map will show u the CIR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Skinner Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . HTH steve >From: "David Gollop" >Reply-To: "David Gollop" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is M4T > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM To: Greg Owens Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" statements on the subinterfaces? Greg Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sh frame map will show u the CIR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Skinner Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . HTH steve >From: "David Gollop" >Reply-To: "David Gollop" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is M4T > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. best regards steve >From: "EA Louie" >Reply-To: "EA Louie" >To: >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: >1. metrics for routing protocols, and >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display >so it's important to have it set correctly. > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and >may >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, >the >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered >from >the frame relay carrier. > >-e- >- Original Message - >From: >To: Greg Owens >Cc: ; >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Stephen Skinner > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and >him > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" >command > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you >. > > > > HTH > > > > steve > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result >shown > > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to >contact > > >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > > > > > > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 > > >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > > > Hardware is M4T > > > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > > > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > > > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > > > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF > > > >_ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > >_ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=203&t=203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
This is incorrect. If you have a CIR of 128 you will get 128 of actual bandwidth. the bandwidth command does not actually throttle back the port. If you have bandwidth set incorrectly you may very well have problems in your routing tables regarding prefered routes. Neil Schneider ""Stephen Skinner"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > >. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > > > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result > >shown > > > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to > >contact > > > >the Frame relay provider? What is the differ
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
The only function that the bandwidth statement performs is the election of administrative cost in routing protocols. It will also set the bandwidth for the circuit in SNMP monitoring. Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer Kg2 Network Design http://www.kg2.com - Original Message - From: "Stephen Skinner" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203] > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > >. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > > > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result > >shown > > > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to > >co
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
you are incorrect . The bandwidth command is to manipulate route metrics. Stephen Skinner wrote: > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > >. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > > > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result > >shown > > > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to > >contact > > > >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > > > > > > > > > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 > > > >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > > > > Hardware is M4T > > > > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > > > > Internet a
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259]
No one indicated that you were wrong. However, more clarity would be to answer all the question(s) completely. -e- - Original Message - From: "Stephen Skinner" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > Baloney. You'll still get minimally 128k. Thus, if you set interface serial 0 bandwidth 64000 and you have a CIR of 128k, you will still get 128k (plus bursts up to the data rate of the frame relay port). The bandwidth command does *nothing physically limiting* to the interface. It merely acts as the reference number for load calculations on show interfaces and for the metric calculation for dynamic routing protocols. The txload and rxload fractions will be inaccurate, though, with this configuration. > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > >. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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OK.. it appears i was wrong on this Bandwidth thing. my appologies and thanks for everyone putting me on the right path BTW is there any way of controlling the speed of your inputI.E throttleing down . Best regards steve thanks snyway >From: "EA Louie" >Reply-To: "EA Louie" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:35:00 -0400 > >No one indicated that you were wrong. However, more clarity would be to >answer all the question(s) completely. > >-e- > >- Original Message - >From: "Stephen Skinner" >To: ; >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:52 AM >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo >will > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that >it`s > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > >Baloney. You'll still get minimally 128k. Thus, if you set >interface serial 0 > bandwidth 64000 > >and you have a CIR of 128k, you will still get 128k (plus bursts up to the >data rate of the frame relay port). The bandwidth command does *nothing >physically limiting* to the interface. It merely acts as the reference >number for load calculations on show interfaces and for the metric >calculation for dynamic routing protocols. The txload and rxload fractions >will be inaccurate, though, with this configuration. > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be >clear.. > > > > best regards > > > > steve > > > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* >entered > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to >calculate: > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not >transmit > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. >Higher > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service >and > > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, >and > > >may > > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 >circuit, > > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this >case, > > >the > > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And >the > > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe >the > > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > > >from > > >the frame relay carrier. > > > > > >-e- > > >----- Original Message - > > >From: > > >To: Greg Owens > > >Cc: ; > > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259]
Stephen - I can think of a few ways to throttle down, but they're all access-list related, and not actual interface speed related. For example, I can't actually turn down the speed of an Ethernet interface, because it is fixed at 10Mbps. Can I funnel the traffic that comes into/goes out of that interface? Yes, but not deterministically, only as a function of traffic shaping/limiting. On a serial interface, they are clocked to synchronize point-to-point, so there is not physical throttling option there, either. The question that would need to be answered is, "Why would one want to limit the data rate on a given interface?" When a good answer to that question comes up, then we'll investigate how to do it. -e- - Original Message - From: "Stephen Skinner" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] > OK.. > > it appears i was wrong on this Bandwidth thing. > > my appologies and thanks for everyone putting me on the right path > > BTW > > is there any way of controlling the speed of your inputI.E > throttleing down . > > Best regards > > steve > > thanks snyway > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] > >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:35:00 -0400 > > > >No one indicated that you were wrong. However, more clarity would be to > >answer all the question(s) completely. > > > >-e- > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Stephen Skinner" > >To: ; > >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:52 AM > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo > >will > > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that > >it`s > > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > > > >Baloney. You'll still get minimally 128k. Thus, if you set > >interface serial 0 > > bandwidth 64000 > > > >and you have a CIR of 128k, you will still get 128k (plus bursts up to the > >data rate of the frame relay port). The bandwidth command does *nothing > >physically limiting* to the interface. It merely acts as the reference > >number for load calculations on show interfaces and for the metric > >calculation for dynamic routing protocols. The txload and rxload fractions > >will be inaccurate, though, with this configuration. > > > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be > >clear.. > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* > >entered > > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to > >calculate: > > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not > >transmit > > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. > >Higher > > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service > >and > > > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, > >and > > > >may > > > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 > >circuit, > > > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this > >case, > &
RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259]
A situation that I have run across is where you have a port speed that is 4 times your CIR and your carrier cuts you off at the egress port for all packets over twice your CIR. -Original Message- From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] Stephen - I can think of a few ways to throttle down, but they're all access-list related, and not actual interface speed related. For example, I can't actually turn down the speed of an Ethernet interface, because it is fixed at 10Mbps. Can I funnel the traffic that comes into/goes out of that interface? Yes, but not deterministically, only as a function of traffic shaping/limiting. On a serial interface, they are clocked to synchronize point-to-point, so there is not physical throttling option there, either. The question that would need to be answered is, "Why would one want to limit the data rate on a given interface?" When a good answer to that question comes up, then we'll investigate how to do it. -e- - Original Message - From: "Stephen Skinner" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] > OK.. > > it appears i was wrong on this Bandwidth thing. > > my appologies and thanks for everyone putting me on the right path > > BTW > > is there any way of controlling the speed of your inputI.E > throttleing down . > > Best regards > > steve > > thanks snyway > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] > >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:35:00 -0400 > > > >No one indicated that you were wrong. However, more clarity would be to > >answer all the question(s) completely. > > > >-e- > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Stephen Skinner" > >To: ; > >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:52 AM > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo > >will > > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that > >it`s > > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > > > >Baloney. You'll still get minimally 128k. Thus, if you set > >interface serial 0 > > bandwidth 64000 > > > >and you have a CIR of 128k, you will still get 128k (plus bursts up to the > >data rate of the frame relay port). The bandwidth command does *nothing > >physically limiting* to the interface. It merely acts as the reference > >number for load calculations on show interfaces and for the metric > >calculation for dynamic routing protocols. The txload and rxload fractions > >will be inaccurate, though, with this configuration. > > > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be > >clear.. > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* > >entered > > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to > >calculate: > > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not > >transmit > > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. > >Higher > > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the po
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
You can determine the CIR on your router a couple different ways. You can either debug frame lmi and view the lmi full status reply from the frame switch or you can use show frame map to see the cir (which is taken from the same source). However, I believe that you must be running the cisco lmi type in order for this to work. I don't think you can view the lmi packets if you are using annex D or annex A. --- El pingu wrote: > you are incorrect . > > The bandwidth command is to manipulate route > metrics. > > > > Stephen Skinner wrote: > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential > correct.. > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you > have a CIR of 128K yo will > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed > out the default is > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that > point stand out that it`s > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the > info rate... > > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just > wanted myself to be clear.. > > > > best regards > > > > steve > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase > CIR of FR? > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the > interface is *manually* entered > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), > and is used to calculate: > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show > interfaces" display > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell > come to mind) do not > transmit > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't > display their CIR. > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be > contacted to increase CIR. > Higher > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for > the circuit. > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html > and > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of > the frame relay service > and > > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame > relay service provider, and > > >may > > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for > example, on a T-1 circuit, > > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a > 128k CIR. In this case, > > >the > > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the > interface bandwidth to 384k > > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match > the port speed. And the > > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which > one can oversubscribe the > > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst > rate) > > > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an > *access circuit* at a > > >particular transmission rate does not assure you > that you burst at that > > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port > speed that was ordered > > >from > > >the frame relay carrier. > > > > > >-e- > > >- Original Message ----- > > >From: > > >To: Greg Owens > > >Cc: ; > > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and > increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken > from the "bandwidth" > > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > Stephen Skinner > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase > CIR of FR? > > > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is > supplied by your SP ...you and > > >him > > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how > much you pay) > > > > usually the person setting up your router > sets the "BANDWIDTH" > > >command > > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you > CAN go up t
Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259]
Frame-relay traffic shaping -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Stephen Skinner"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > OK.. > > it appears i was wrong on this Bandwidth thing. > > my appologies and thanks for everyone putting me on the right path > > BTW > > is there any way of controlling the speed of your inputI.E > throttleing down . > > Best regards > > steve > > thanks snyway > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:259] > >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:35:00 -0400 > > > >No one indicated that you were wrong. However, more clarity would be to > >answer all the question(s) completely. > > > >-e- > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Stephen Skinner" > >To: ; > >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:52 AM > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo > >will > > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that > >it`s > > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > > > >Baloney. You'll still get minimally 128k. Thus, if you set > >interface serial 0 > > bandwidth 64000 > > > >and you have a CIR of 128k, you will still get 128k (plus bursts up to the > >data rate of the frame relay port). The bandwidth command does *nothing > >physically limiting* to the interface. It merely acts as the reference > >number for load calculations on show interfaces and for the metric > >calculation for dynamic routing protocols. The txload and rxload fractions > >will be inaccurate, though, with this configuration. > > > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be > >clear.. > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* > >entered > > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to > >calculate: > > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not > >transmit > > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. > >Higher > > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service > >and > > > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, > >and > > > >may > > > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 > >circuit, > > > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this > >case, > > > >the > > > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > > > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And > >the > > > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe > >the > > > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > > > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > > > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > > > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to th
Fwd: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
here is my 2cent, i was not going to jump into any conversation but i felt that it was necessay to support "EA Louie" you do not or can not control how much router is putting info on the wire through interface by manipulating "bandwidth" statement. it has nothing to do with admin distance or how much data is transmitted. but it has to do with calculation of metric. for instance eigrp will calculate and use upto 50% of the bandwidth for eigrp purpose. so if you have a circuit with cir of 15kbps and no bandwidth statement to tell the eigrp of the true available bandwidth, you will saturate the link with eigrp update, query, reply. and that is when you will be on fire to troubleshoot the problem. go "EA Louie" *** The only function that the bandwidth statement performs is the election of administrative cost in routing protocols. It will also set the bandwidth for the circuit in SNMP monitoring. Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer Kg2 Network Design http://www.kg2.com - Original Message - From: "Stephen Skinner" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203] > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > &
Re: [Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
Well normally when u r configuring eigrp on frame-relay network, let suppose u give 128 k bandwidth, u know that eigrp uses 50 percent of the bandwidth, so it will use 64 k of the bandwidth of the interface.. And we know normally the serial interface is 64 K so it will make use of all the bandwidth. So we can set the bandwidth by using ip percent-bandwidth eigrp AS PERCENT Next on framerelay network , when we are configuring point to point networks, we should set the CIR to lowest bandwidth of the interface. While on multipoint, we set the CIR to the lowest bandwidth times the no of interfaces we have. Please correct me if I am wrong. Regards Azhar Soomro "El pingu" wrote: you are incorrect . The bandwidth command is to manipulate route metrics. Stephen Skinner wrote: > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K yo will > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default is > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that it`s > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be clear.. > > best regards > > steve > > >From: "EA Louie" > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > >To: > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* entered > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to calculate: > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not transmit > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. Higher > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay service and > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, and > >may > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 circuit, > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this case, > >the > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth to 384k > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. And the > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe the > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* at a > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst at that > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was ordered > >from > >the frame relay carrier. > > > >-e- > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: Greg Owens > >Cc: ; > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Stephen Skinner > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > >him > > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" > >command > > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > >. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > &g
Re: [Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:203]
u are right and wrong . the eogrp percentage commmand is for eigrp purposesthe bandwidht command is to manipulate roiting metrics -- * Pedro Quezada [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (718) 404-3905 x1580 - voicemail/fax azhar mumtaz wrote: > Well normally when u r configuring eigrp on frame-relay network, let > suppose u > give 128 k bandwidth, u know that eigrp uses 50 percent of the bandwidth, > so > it will use 64 k of the bandwidth of the interface.. And we know normally > the > serial interface is 64 K so it will make use of all the bandwidth. > So we can > set the bandwidth by using > ip percent-bandwidth eigrp AS PERCENT > > Next on framerelay network , when we are configuring point to point > networks, > we should set the CIR to lowest bandwidth of the interface. While on > multipoint, we set the CIR to the lowest bandwidth times the no of > interfaces > we have. > Please correct me if I am wrong. > Regards > Azhar Soomro > > > > > > "El pingu" wrote: > you are incorrect . > > The bandwidth command is to manipulate route metrics. > > > > Stephen Skinner wrote: > > > i don`t mean to be rude ,but i was essential correct.. > > > > if you set the bandwidth command to 64k and you have a CIR of 128K > yo will > > only get 64K...But as my good friends have pointed out the default > is > > 1.544kb..but i was just trying to make that point stand out that > it`s > > the serivce provider who makes the call about the info rate... > > > > I`m sorry if i`m bieng ANAL about this i just wanted myself to be > clear.. > > > > best regards > > > > steve > > > > >From: "EA Louie" > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie" > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0700 > > > > > >ohhh no the bandwidth statement in the interface is *manually* > entered > > >(defaulted at 1544 Kbit for a serial interface), and is used to > calculate: > > >1. metrics for routing protocols, and > > >2. bandwidth utilization in the "show interfaces" display > > >so it's important to have it set correctly. > > > > > >Some frame relay carriers (Sprint and PacBell come to mind) do not > transmit > > >their CIR, so 'show frame-relay map' doesn't display their CIR. > > > > > >The frame relay provider does need to be contacted to increase CIR. > Higher > > >CIR usually translates into a cost increase for the circuit. > > > > > >Here's an explanation of EIR - also see > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1108fr2.html and > > >http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/frame/1206fr1.html > > > > > >EIR is the difference between the port speed of the frame relay > service > and > > >the CIR. The port speed is set by the frame relay service provider, > and > > >may > > >be lower than the maximum interface speed - for example, on a T-1 > circuit, > > >the provider could provide a 384kbps port and a 128k CIR. In this > case, > > >the > > >EIR = 256k, and it would be wise to set the interface bandwidth > to 384k > > >(bandwidth 384 on the serial interface) to match the port speed. > And the > > >port speed is usually the maximum rate at which one can oversubscribe > the > > >PVC (that is, it is usually the frame relay burst rate) > > > > > >The moral of the story - just because there is an *access circuit* > at a > > >particular transmission rate does not assure you that you burst > at that > > >rate. The interface is rate-limited to the port speed that was > ordered > > >from > > >the frame relay carrier. > > > > > >-e- > > >- Original Message - > > >From: > > >To: Greg Owens > > >Cc: ; > > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:55 AM > > >Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > > >statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > > > > Stephen Skinner > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM
Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]
However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't mean that you have that end-to-end CIR. Of course, without at least having the port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the local FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful. Consider this: PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast, BW = 64096 status defined, active Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast, BW = 64000 status defined, active Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast, BW = 128000 status defined, active Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast, BW = 384000 status defined, active Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast, BW = 128000 status defined, active Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast, BW = 64000 status defined, active Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast, BW = 64096 status defined, active What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud? If you total it, it's 896K. That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR (128K BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is 512 CIR. With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed anything beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while. Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're getting it from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying). The customer has no real clue, as usual. Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if you've got a newer route that supports it. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Greg Owens"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM > To: Greg Owens > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > statements on the subinterfaces? > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Stephen Skinner > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and him > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you . > > HTH > > steve > > > >From: "David Gollop" > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to contact > >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > > > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 > >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > > Hardware is M4T > > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF > >_ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=554&t=554 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]
what is CIR? "Jason J. Roysdon" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't mean > that you have that end-to-end CIR. Of course, without at least having the > port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the local > FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful. > > Consider this: > PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map > Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast, BW = > 64096 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast, BW = > 64000 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast, BW = > 128000 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast, BW = > 384000 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast, BW = > 128000 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast, BW = > 64000 > status defined, active > Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast, BW = > 64096 > status defined, active > > What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud? If you total it, it's > 896K. That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR (128K > BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is 512 > CIR. With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed anything > beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while. > > Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is > really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're getting it > from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying). The customer has no real > clue, as usual. > > Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but > more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if you've > got a newer route that supports it. > > -- > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > > > > ""Greg Owens"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM > > To: Greg Owens > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > > statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Stephen Skinner > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and > him > > agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay) > > usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command > > to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited > > amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you > . > > > > HTH > > > > steve > > > > > > >From: "David Gollop" > > >Reply-To: "David Gollop" > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 - > > > > > >Hi.. How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line? Like Result shown > > >below, what is the CIR? How do I increase the CIR? Do we have to > contact > > >the Frame relay provider? What is the difference between CIR and EIR?? > > > > > > > > >SIN01#sh int s1/1.19 > > >Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up > > > Hardware is M4T > > > Description: --- Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 --- > > > Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30 > > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, > > > reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255 > > > Encapsulation FRAME-R
Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]
Committed Information Rate. Read up on Frame Relay if you want to pick up what we're talking about. Step-by-step for those new to CCO: http://cisco.com Technical Support Help -- Cisco TAC Technologies WAN Frame Relay http://cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworking:Frame_Re lay Once you've read up on a topic, check out some sample configs (starting at the TAC link above): Install & Configure TAC Technical Tips/Sample Configurations WAN Technologies Frame Relay http://cisco.com/warp/public/125/index.shtml I think the best thing anyone looking to pursue a Cisco career is to learn CCO, specifically TAC and the UniverCD sections. It's all there, and free. I'd also suggest getting a CCO login as not everything is available to the public (but all the basic items are). They're also free, and if you don't work for a Cisco partner, you can sign up as a consultant. http://www.cisco.com/register/help/consultant.htm http://www.cisco.com/register/ -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Victim"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > what is CIR? > > "Jason J. Roysdon" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't mean > > that you have that end-to-end CIR. Of course, without at least having the > > port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the local > > FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful. > > > > Consider this: > > PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map > > Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast, BW > = > > 64096 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast, BW > = > > 64000 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast, BW > = > > 128000 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast, BW > = > > 384000 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast, BW > = > > 128000 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast, BW > = > > 64000 > > status defined, active > > Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast, BW > = > > 64096 > > status defined, active > > > > What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud? If you total it, it's > > 896K. That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR > (128K > > BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is 512 > > CIR. With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed anything > > beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while. > > > > Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is > > really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're getting > it > > from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying). The customer has no real > > clue, as usual. > > > > Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but > > more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if > you've > > got a newer route that supports it. > > > > -- > > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > > > > > > > > ""Greg Owens"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM > > > To: Greg Owens > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? > > > > > > Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth" > > > statements on the subinterfaces? > > > > > > > > > Greg Owens wrote: > > > > Sh frame map will show u the CIR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > &g
