RE: Need advice : Cisco equipment for CCNP [7:43506]
Off the top of my head, I believe that all the switches you mentioned, with the exception of the 5002, are fixed configuration switches. You should check out the Cisco website for the main differences because they are too numerous to list here. In my opinion, get the 5002 (or 5000) because it is modular, which means you can upgrade the supervisor engine or any of the modules if you want and it is also one of the switches used in the CCIE lab. However, it is probably more expensive than the others. I think that the 2926T has modules but I don't know if you can upgrade them at this time (not sure about this). I guess it all boils down to what you can spend. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Sam Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need advice : Cisco equipment for CCNP [7:43506] Dear all : I am considering to acquire a switch for studying my CCNP. Do anyone can give me some advice on the difference of the following equipment Cisco 2901 Cisco 5002 Cisco 2926T Cisco 2948G And which model is more useful for CCNP/CCIE study. I get the impression that all the above equipment is running Catalyst IOS. However, I am not sure which model can run the latest Catalyst IOS as well as I do not know which model is most valuable in studing CCNP/CCIE . Please advice. Thanks. Sam Ho CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43526t=43506 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need advice : Cisco equipment for CCNP [7:43506]
Shawn, The 2926T is a good viable option as well as the 2901. Both switches run the cat5k OS. The 2926T takes special blades that do not work in a cat5k or vice-versa (believe me, I've tried). I prefer the cat2901 over any of the options because of the power consumption factor. The cat5002 and 2926T both consume more power than the 2901. Also, the 2901 is much shorter (but longer). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Off the top of my head, I believe that all the switches you mentioned, with the exception of the 5002, are fixed configuration switches. You should check out the Cisco website for the main differences because they are too numerous to list here. In my opinion, get the 5002 (or 5000) because it is modular, which means you can upgrade the supervisor engine or any of the modules if you want and it is also one of the switches used in the CCIE lab. However, it is probably more expensive than the others. I think that the 2926T has modules but I don't know if you can upgrade them at this time (not sure about this). I guess it all boils down to what you can spend. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Sam Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need advice : Cisco equipment for CCNP [7:43506] Dear all : I am considering to acquire a switch for studying my CCNP. Do anyone can give me some advice on the difference of the following equipment Cisco 2901 Cisco 5002 Cisco 2926T Cisco 2948G And which model is more useful for CCNP/CCIE study. I get the impression that all the above equipment is running Catalyst IOS. However, I am not sure which model can run the latest Catalyst IOS as well as I do not know which model is most valuable in studing CCNP/CCIE . Please advice. Thanks. Sam Ho CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43530t=43506 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need advice [7:30742]
As far as I come to know, yes. Hope you good luck. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30794t=30742 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need advice [7:30742]
Good luck to you Stephane. Just to let you know that getting a CCIE can be a tad expensive. Nick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30835t=30742 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: need advice [7:29392]
Question number one as far as I know is almost impossible. As for question number two you have two options, A)Access Lists or B)VLANS. Maybe others will have other alternatives. HTH! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29458t=29392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need advice [7:29392]
Hi Festus, I do not see anyway one access-list command can help you achieve your objective. If you were talking of chatting and other stuffs that uses a particular port number, then an access-list would be the answer. To use access-list, am afraid you have to know the IP addresses of these sites and block then individually. I will not advice you go this way, because it is going to slow down your router. If you are using a proxy server to connct to the net, Zonealarm is a freeware on the net, download zonealarm into the proxy server and have it deny access to these sites. However, if you are not using a proxy server, the handy solution for you depending on how technically sound your internet users are. Sometime in the evening when everybody have gone home, you need to go round each computer and do the following: Assuming you are using Internet Explorer 1. Click on the Tools then Pick Internet Options 2. Click on Content and Pick Content Advisor 3. On Content Advisor frame, Click on Enable then click on the Rating tab. 4. You have the option to restrict users to sites base on content of that site eg --Language, Nudity, Sex and Violence The is posisble because at registerations sites are classified accordaing to their contents and so each time anybody access the internet through that computer, it validate the site againt the database stored on the internet before pulling up that site. On your second question, Remember you have to login into the domain to be able to use the Network printer. Make sure, you are login and confirm from the NT PDC that that computer had actually login with a valid user ID. Also check privilidges and Access control list on the shared printer, make sure that everyone have Full access to the Printer. Regards. Oletu - Original Message - From: mrfestus wariye To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: need advice [7:29392] i have just finished my ccna programme and i am currently doing a 2 month internship programme with an outfit that runs a cyber cafe business that provides internet access services for the public. i am their interim network administrator. i have noticed a lot of loopholes in the network. and some of my problems i need answers to are:- 1. how do i use a single command line to deny access to all pornographic/adult sites on the network. 2. some computers within the network are denied access to network(to use network resources like the network printer).but the same computers can see the shared internet access. your useful advise would be appreciated. yours truly, festus taferi. __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29467t=29392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: need advice [7:29392]
Hello Festus: 1. This is a persistent and difficult problem. The short answer is, you can't. There are a lot of products like Cyberpatrol, but they are not on the router. Usually they are on the proxy servers, end PC's and firewalls. They can block a lot of sites but not all. Filtering based on word list is not entirely accurate, either. But they do work. Since you are just trying to block porn access in a cybercafe, they are probably good candidates. But -- they cost money. 2. The second question is more like a Microsoft question, not sure. Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29415t=29392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: need advice [7:29392]
Unfortunately there is no single command to block all Adult and offensive web site (let alone many commands that do so). If there was companies like Little Brother and Websense would not be in business. To block Adult content in websites you are going to need a URL web filter software like websense. To block the PCs that you don't want access to the Internet either: 1. Remove their default gateway if you have a flat network or 2. Remove the DNS servers from their TCP/IP stack. If you are using IE you can also put settings in IE to not allow any Internet Access. -Original Message- From: mrfestus wariye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 12/17/2001 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: need advice [7:29392] i have just finished my ccna programme and i am currently doing a 2 month internship programme with an outfit that runs a cyber cafe business that provides internet access services for the public. i am their interim network administrator. i have noticed a lot of loopholes in the network. and some of my problems i need answers to are:- 1. how do i use a single command line to deny access to all pornographic/adult sites on the network. 2. some computers within the network are denied access to network(to use network resources like the network printer).but the same computers can see the shared internet access. your useful advise would be appreciated. yours truly, festus taferi. __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29426t=29392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: need advice [3:1149]
Where in NJ? Some areas are more expensive than others. A good indication of cost of living can be found in the real estate section of yahoo.com (look in classifieds). If I remember correctly, car insurance is also expensive in NJ. Hope that helps, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mihai Dumitru Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: need advice [3:1149] Hi! I was offered o job in New Jersey area, through a recruiter, with H1B visa sponsorsip. I finished my academic studies last year, but I have 2 years overall experience (almost two years in administering a mid-sized NT network, and half-year in designing and implementing WAN networks). I am a MCSE, CCNA (plus Remote Access and Support exams passed), and CCDA. The question is: what salary should I ask? In general, will my non-US experience count? It is easy to get a job in Romania with my skills, but I read Jeongwoo's posting and the replies. It seems it is not so easy to get a job in US now, at the entry level. I am seriously thinking about staying in Romania for another year, because here I have a great opportunity to learn. What do you think? Best wishes, Mihai Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=3i=1149t=1149 -- To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe jobs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need advice on CIT
Know your debugs, show commands, and sniffer outputs ""Janto Cin"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 018c01c0583c$9b350880$610ca8c0@Platinum">news:018c01c0583c$9b350880$610ca8c0@Platinum... Hi All, I will take the CIT exam tommorow, would you pls give me your advice ? TIA. Best Regards, Janto Cin
Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice)
Daniel Cotts wrote: The trick is getting the experience to reinforce the knowledge you gain through study. My first job in IT included moving furniture, taking out the garbage, and shoveling snow. After that I might be able to work on the computers. It's called paying your dues. And I'm saying: I think the part about "paying your dues" is bullsh*t. If I'm selling you my ability to (insert somewhat technical skill here), and if you say you're buying whatever technical skill I'm selling, then anything else is you wasting my time and exploiting my presence. Case in point: my first job when I moved to Boston was to be a "software trainer" for a rinky-dink training company. I was hired on with the verbal agreement that within two months I would be teaching at least one of their classes full-time. After I officially started, my duties included hauling PCs up and down stairs, vacuuming, running errands for the boss, etc. The tasks I was performing were not based on the skills I was selling to my employer. After two months, when it became very apparent that this guy had no intention of letting me set foot in front of a classroom, I split and got a much, *much* better job elsewhere which utilized the skills I had to offer an employer. Just think: if all you're going to do is move furniture and vacuum, why are you applying at the company you're applying at? Why not just go to work for a moving company instead? It's because you have a skill set which, at least in your eyes, has some value to that company. If they agree, then they hire you and you use those skills - immediately. The moral is: don't settle for anything less than the job you want to do. If you are confident in your skill level, there is an employer out there who wants to buy it. That'll be $0.02, please pull ahead to the next window. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Advice
Javed, Yes it can be done, but only if you have the right attitude. You must be willing to put in the effort to learn actively. Read something every day, try to get equipment and play with it, figure out why something works or does not. Try to solve problems yourself, before you ask for advice. That way you are thinking and learning, even if you do not come up with a solution yourself. Find a job that will let you work on a variety of equipment. I have been lucky. I worked for 10 years in a 'traditional' civil engineering role, and I made a career change. I found a job as a Network Admin through a friend (the best way to find a decent job is word-of mouth). I work for a very small investment firm. There are days where all I do is break down cardboard boxes. But there are also days when I get to configure access routers, firewalls, and such. I am given these opportunities because my boss knows that I am always reading, studying, and trying new things, and also because he knows that I will let him know if I think I am in over my head. My best advice - read, read, read, then read some more. Never stop learning. -Tim Harkin Original Message Follows From: "javed kadri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "javed kadri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need Advice Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:45:39 GMT Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Advice
Tim, Well said.. This kind of advice is probably worth more than $0.02. :-) Nigel. - Original Message - From: Tim Harkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Need Advice Javed, Yes it can be done, but only if you have the right attitude. You must be willing to put in the effort to learn actively. Read something every day, try to get equipment and play with it, figure out why something works or does not. Try to solve problems yourself, before you ask for advice. That way you are thinking and learning, even if you do not come up with a solution yourself. Find a job that will let you work on a variety of equipment. I have been lucky. I worked for 10 years in a 'traditional' civil engineering role, and I made a career change. I found a job as a Network Admin through a friend (the best way to find a decent job is word-of mouth). I work for a very small investment firm. There are days where all I do is break down cardboard boxes. But there are also days when I get to configure access routers, firewalls, and such. I am given these opportunities because my boss knows that I am always reading, studying, and trying new things, and also because he knows that I will let him know if I think I am in over my head. My best advice - read, read, read, then read some more. Never stop learning. -Tim Harkin Original Message Follows From: "javed kadri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "javed kadri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need Advice Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:45:39 GMT Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice)
Title: RE: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice) It seems if you work for most companies in IT / MIS you have to pay some dues. Even companies like FedEx., IP, Harrahs, or any other top IT companies your still end up paying some dues and proving yourself. I have worked for some of these and seen MANY people come in with a 1000 certs and a masters degree in IT and can not even open a PC to put memory in it. This is why most companies make you grunt a little so that they are sure you are what you say you are before they through you into a major project. Once you have some years on your resume with a nice list of OTJ experience projects than you can start walking in where you feel like and an doing what they have hired you for. 1.5 cents, Steve -Original Message- From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:17 AM To: cisco Subject: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice) Daniel Cotts wrote: The trick is getting the experience to reinforce the knowledge you gain through study. My first job in IT included moving furniture, taking out the garbage, and shoveling snow. After that I might be able to work on the computers. It's called paying your dues. And I'm saying: I think the part about paying your dues is bullsh*t. If I'm selling you my ability to (insert somewhat technical skill here), and if you say you're buying whatever technical skill I'm selling, then anything else is you wasting my time and exploiting my presence. Case in point: my first job when I moved to Boston was to be a software trainer for a rinky-dink training company. I was hired on with the verbal agreement that within two months I would be teaching at least one of their classes full-time. After I officially started, my duties included hauling PCs up and down stairs, vacuuming, running errands for the boss, etc. The tasks I was performing were not based on the skills I was selling to my employer. After two months, when it became very apparent that this guy had no intention of letting me set foot in front of a classroom, I split and got a much, *much* better job elsewhere which utilized the skills I had to offer an employer. Just think: if all you're going to do is move furniture and vacuum, why are you applying at the company you're applying at? Why not just go to work for a moving company instead? It's because you have a skill set which, at least in your eyes, has some value to that company. If they agree, then they hire you and you use those skills - immediately. The moral is: don't settle for anything less than the job you want to do. If you are confident in your skill level, there is an employer out there who wants to buy it. That'll be $0.02, please pull ahead to the next window. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice)
Want some advice? Pay your dues in a K-12 public sector job. Lots of action in today's educational technology buzz-word world. Pay is generally terrible, but the exposure can be significant. A good resume stuffer. Best, G. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice)
You seem to misunderstand that having experience in the skill you are 'selling' is part of a skill-set. Without some experience you do not have a complete skill-set, just a portion of one. I think you will find most employers are looking for a complete skill-set in the tasks they require help with. Being able to read a configuration guide and input the commands into a router for example is not a skill. You could teach a second grader to do that. However, being able to do this with an understanding of the ramifications it has on the surrounding environment, and the knowledge of the steps one would need to take in order to remedy possible problems that arise as a result, would qualify as a skill. From: "Bradley J. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Paying One's Dues (was: Re: Need Advice) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 06:16:32 -0500 Daniel Cotts wrote: The trick is getting the experience to reinforce the knowledge you gain through study. My first job in IT included moving furniture, taking out the garbage, and shoveling snow. After that I might be able to work on the computers. It's called paying your dues. And I'm saying: I think the part about "paying your dues" is bullsh*t. If I'm selling you my ability to (insert somewhat technical skill here), and if you say you're buying whatever technical skill I'm selling, then anything else is you wasting my time and exploiting my presence. Case in point: my first job when I moved to Boston was to be a "software trainer" for a rinky-dink training company. I was hired on with the verbal agreement that within two months I would be teaching at least one of their classes full-time. After I officially started, my duties included hauling PCs up and down stairs, vacuuming, running errands for the boss, etc. The tasks I was performing were not based on the skills I was selling to my employer. After two months, when it became very apparent that this guy had no intention of letting me set foot in front of a classroom, I split and got a much, *much* better job elsewhere which utilized the skills I had to offer an employer. Just think: if all you're going to do is move furniture and vacuum, why are you applying at the company you're applying at? Why not just go to work for a moving company instead? It's because you have a skill set which, at least in your eyes, has some value to that company. If they agree, then they hire you and you use those skills - immediately. The moral is: don't settle for anything less than the job you want to do. If you are confident in your skill level, there is an employer out there who wants to buy it. That'll be $0.02, please pull ahead to the next window. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Advice
Javed, What do you mean by "non-technical guy"? Everyone had to start off somewhere as nobody was born with Cisco box in their mouth so to speak. If you want to learn something and and train hard for it ... you can do it and go for it ...as Chuck Larrieu said ... having passed his CCIE Written he feels as if he has made it to basecamp of Everest ... well he had to become the climb somewhere and he knows where he wants to be and as per Stephen Covey ...Begin with the end in mind sure you can do it!! ... Welcome to our world!! ""javed kadri"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Advice
Sam, No offence this is actually the Professional list, the CCIE Lab list is only via Mailfeed format ... Hope this helps. ""Sam Munzani"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 000b01c0437e$617a9e20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:000b01c0437e$617a9e20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... No offence but I thought this group was specific to lab. Sam Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Advice
No offence but I thought this group was specific to lab. Sam Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need Advice
Every now and then try to help others out! It won't hurt, and takes as much effort as your last comment. -Original Message- From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:06 PM To: javed kadri; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need Advice No offence but I thought this group was specific to lab. Sam Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need Advice
The answer is "yes". The "how" is more complicated. The trick is getting the experience to reinforce the knowledge you gain through study. My first job in IT included moving furniture, taking out the garbage, and shoveling snow. After that I might be able to work on the computers. It's called paying your dues. For the next job I was the only applicant who really had a clue about networks. It was a small company. Luckily it grew to a world-wide presence. My knowledge and experience grew with it. There are many similar stories. The main point is to find the situation where you can learn and grow. There are many good folks in this field who will be glad to assist you. There are also a few who "have room for improvement". Learn something new every day. Be proud of your accomplishment. Be humble in asking for advice. Never claim to know something that you don't. Buy equipment as budget allows and practice. Good luck. -Original Message- From: javed kadri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need Advice Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi anyone knows what's the purpose of using next-hop-self statement in neighbor ip address of neig next-hop-self ? __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Javed, If you want to put in some effort, I don't see why not. All it takes is some "hard' learning. Your class was a good start ...; you might want to do some more detailed research and reading (like Todd's book on CCNA) and on overall Networking technology. Next step: trying / train for the CCNA. Good luck HV Dear Friends, Lemme introduce myself briefly I am from a non technical background and would like to get into networking world...I have already started taking some networking courses in UCSC-ext... All i wanted to know is it possible fr a non technical guy like me to make it to the networking world...and if the answer is yes then... what should be my plan of Action... Please Advice... Thx Javed _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, suaveguru wrote: hi anyone knows what's the purpose of using next-hop-self statement in neighbor ip address of neig next-hop-self ? This is so that when a router receives a route it learned via BGP, it sets itself as the "next-hop" attribute. So that when this route is passed on, in iBGP for example, the next-hop is that of itself and not the external neighbor. This is important, because a router will invalidate a route if it can not reach the "next-hop". Brian __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Used usually in a NBMA environment ,when there is no PVC between spoke to spoke routers. Thanks Thangavel - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: suaveguru [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: RE: Need Advice On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, suaveguru wrote: hi anyone knows what's the purpose of using next-hop-self statement in neighbor ip address of neig next-hop-self ? This is so that when a router receives a route it learned via BGP, it sets itself as the "next-hop" attribute. So that when this route is passed on, in iBGP for example, the next-hop is that of itself and not the external neighbor. This is important, because a router will invalidate a route if it can not reach the "next-hop". Brian __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need advice from the experts
I might have inadvertantly deleted your original email, therefore I copied Denis' response to reply to you :) I have to laugh at the title of your email. I am not laughing at you. I am laughing because I once had a Network General instructor who would begin the class by asking if there were any experts in the room. He would then proceed to say that no person is an expert, that the Sniffer was the only "expert" in the room. He went around the classroom to ask why we were in the class. I made the mistake of saying that I wanted to be the "resident Sniffer expert" at my company. This was the "wrong" thing to say (LOL). Back to your question: Let me first say that I am in no means an expert ;) but here is my 2 cents none the less: If you are going to be concentrating on Campus Design then I think that Ccie Professional Development : Cisco Lan Switching is a very good book. It goes into pretty exhaustive detail about Campus design issues, technologies and solutions. It really does not go into Multicast Routing, though. Yes, I think that the CCDA course materials are very good at illustrating a comprehensive approach to defining solutions, whereby it covers identifying needs, collecting the appropriate information, baselining the current network, etc. as well as what needs the different technologies address. It may be a little outdated (from a technology perspective) but I think that the priciples are very good (and in my opinion the principles are not outdated). I think that the CID course material, may be too broad based in the range of technologies covered. Don't get me wrong, there is some very good information. I just think that that the CCDA materials are a more practical starting point. I agree with Denis. In my opinion, you need to get clearer definition of what exactly you will be "running with" to be able to "run" with it. Tom Kager _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What specifically is the job you are doing? I recently changed careers and found "hitting the ground running" to be easy if you know specifically what your job entails. Denis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mindiani mindiani Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need advice from the experts I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need advice from the experts
Yes, Get Priscilla's Top Down Network Design, Lammle's CCDA Study Guide and maybe the DCN Cisco Press book(its good but definetly a snoozer, I have it and although I like its content I have found myself cheek to page a few times!) LOL! These should help, good luck! Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mindiani mindiani Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need advice from the experts I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need advice from the experts
I would look for books where instead of preaching theory, there were case studies. Look at the solutions to them. Brian On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, mindiani mindiani wrote: I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need advice from the experts
I recommend the book "Top-Down Network Design." ;-) Seriously. It was written for someone in your exact situation! Priscilla At 03:09 PM 10/11/00, mindiani mindiani wrote: I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If your job is design, then yes, I would read up as much as you can. CID, Top Down Network Design, and some of the Advanced Design books from CiscoPress are probably all very good to have. Brian On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, mindiani mindiani wrote: I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LOL! Nothing like a shameless plug now and again! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:44 PM To: mindiani mindiani; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need advice from the experts I recommend the book "Top-Down Network Design." ;-) Seriously. It was written for someone in your exact situation! Priscilla At 03:09 PM 10/11/00, mindiani mindiani wrote: I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does it count when the author recommends the book? LOL Seriously, it is good stuff though... "William E Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 000101c033b0$49f7a140$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:000101c033b0$49f7a140$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... LOL! Nothing like a shameless plug now and again! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:44 PM To: mindiani mindiani; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need advice from the experts I recommend the book "Top-Down Network Design." ;-) Seriously. It was written for someone in your exact situation! Priscilla At 03:09 PM 10/11/00, mindiani mindiani wrote: I have just finished my CCNP and got a job in design starting in two or thee weeks time. My new employer is also exited with my background with NT and Novell. As a support guy how would I be productive from day one in internetworking design environment?. Would CCDA books be for any help ?. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need advice on CCIE written
I thought it was $300. Some whose advice I trust have suggested that token ring / RIF is essential, as is at least a working knowledge of ATM terminology. Your routing protocol background looks good. The certification zone ( www.certificationzone.com ) practice tests I've taken also include questions of the sort that you studied for the lower level certs, but may have put aside, like ISDN reference points and the like. One practice test had a gawd awful series of telnets from router to router, and then asked what router you were in, and what command would get you to a particular router telnet session. I'll bet you're close. Bone up on bridging, token ring, and ATM terminology. And knock 'em dead! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Gesualdi Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:23 AM To: cisco Subject:Need advice on CCIE written How difficult is the CCIE wriiten? I have completed CCNP and CCDP so far which was alot of work. A friend of mine asked me to give him my resume but before doing so I would like to add "Passed CCIE wriiten" to it. I'm thinking of taking this test within two weeks even though I did not study as much as I originally intended to do. So far I have read : "Internetworking technologies Handbook" front to back Cisco Switched networks ( has good ATM stuff in this book and allowed me to review the switched stuff ) Internet routing architectures I have extensive experience with OSPF and also have experience with BGP4. I have not worked with token ring , ipx or IBM technologies. I've worked with cisco routers for 3 years. I'm also reviewing The ACRC book again. Can this test be passed with this linmited amount of preparation? Again my goal is to say that I passed the "CCIE wriiten" for my interview which is comming up. Let me know your thoughts before I blow $200.00 bucks on this test. Thanks -- John Gesualdi The Providence Journal Company Phone (401)277-8133 Pager (401)785-6938 CCDP,CCNP ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
