RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
I fail to see how your reply relates to my post, and I would agree with the generic position that the resume will not garner the offer - however, I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts, and I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.) These problems included grammar, spelling, style and content. The resume sets a tone - a good one raises the expectations and elevates the canidate. A poor one, if interviewed, places him/her in a bad position from the start. --- Lou Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert... I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here. The resume will NEVER... I repeat NEVER get you a job ... Only an interview... and the HR will go over to put the full package together SO lets get this... The interview and what end of the salary you fall on The CCNA just might get the resume from the HR to techies,... who will say... hey we got a CCNP here... bottom line it can NOT hurt you to put the CCNA under the CCNP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I think that having two version of your resume is more common these days - fancy formatting for print and ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three pages, but the first page is summary and the last page is education, certifications and associations. I think that the length answer is three or under - if you've got more then its either too dated or you've done too much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the folks instead of pulling you to the top. One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each of the last five years should have at least four bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a little bit for introduction - I personally hate the "I want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every font and don't print double sided. Leave room for notes!!! (Sorry for being a mother hen!) For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it seems like there are two camps - those that put it in for HR and keyword search and those that don't want to work for a company that is too stupid to understand the relationship. (The position is too junior if they're looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) All the best. --- Pradeep Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page resume did not make it for a tech support position and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) What is more important than the size of the resume is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed being trained from Sniffer University and did not know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for being trained are sometimes more productive than a self-centered techies. So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) -PG -Original Message- From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 200
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
There seems to be a lot of negative energy today. William, I will start by saying that I find the tone of your post very disturbing. You may not understand the context, but that yields little cause to reply in this manner. I will respond in line and without the same tone in the hopes that we can come to a common ground. --- william ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert's comments are pretty typical and ignorant: "I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts." So what? I am saying that I, and I presume others, have received offers only on the basis of the resume. This refutes the contention that the resume does not get you the job, and I was trying to illustrate the point that the resume can and does have a significant impact on the interview, offer and tone of the position. Lou and I have discussed this off-line. Further, I would ask why you take the position that my comments are typical and ignorant. Usually typical contentions are grounded in some fact. Also, I've hired people since 1993, and currently screen for a company that I consult for. I also work with a number contracting agencies who want to place as many folks as they can without a lot of overhead, yet it takes a day or two to polish the resume such that they can present it. This again leads to frustration, and could impact placement - 'he's only worth $75 as opposed to $115/hr.' "I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.)" What's wrong with this picture? Are you hiring the person or the resume? In fact it sounds like you read the resumes and brought them in anyhow for an interview. And although in most cases the face to face interview is the true litmus test, you decided not hire them because to you, the resume was just to important to overlook? Talk about wasting everyone's time. I will clarify. I have refused to interview individuals who wasted my time by sending me their most impressive calling card and not taking the time to provide a well-constructed document. The resume is too important to overlook. I have hired people with great resumes and poor interviews as the interview was not their best presence - they were nervous, etc. I am consistently asked to review resumes and regularly get kudos on mine for what its worth. I also get hired. I did not disagree with Lou regarding the fact that the resume is the key to the door, however, I will also disagree that the resume is a 'just enough' effort. Too many have gotten used to the low unemployment rate and easy times we've had and, perhaps, never learned about the importance of a good resume. Interviewing skills are also important, as is a good attitude that does not critize or belittle. Lou, don't listen to Robert. You have the right idea by putting together a resume that brings your strengths to light. As for getting it into the hands of the person making the hiring decision, that is always the best case scenario. Trust me, even the worst recruiter realizes that HR does not add much to the process. With this in mind, it is still a political game that is played at most companies where HR must be involved in the process at some point so they in affect, don't lose face. The bottom line with any good manager that has been given the task of hiring a good employee is to see what this person is about in one on one interview. Only than can he or she determine whether the person is a fit in more ways than one. Agreed, except I would add that the first impression timer starts with the resume. As such, you might get in the door with a weak resume, but you will be working from a position of weakness and it will be almost impossible to recover. From: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:53:44 -0600 I totally agree that a resume should be clean and free of errors and project your best image. I was trying to point out (and I did a poor job of it) that A CCNA IMHO has a place on the resume (if it fits) because the resume only gets you the interview. I know that when I wrote my resume most recently, I kept having to remind myself that all I wanted the resume to do was get me in the door... open up discussions on what I can do, and bypass the HR folks to get to the technical department. I was only focusing in on that single point of CCNP and CCNA or just CCNP discussion. Please forget that CLASSIC comment I made. Lou -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:17 AM To: Lou Nelson; Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL P
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
All you people should bickering about resumes should go and read everything there is at http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/ . Resumes are irrelevent! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page resume did not make it for a tech support position and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) What is more important than the size of the resume is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed being trained from Sniffer University and did not know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for being trained are sometimes more productive than a self-centered techies. So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) -PG -Original Message- From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the same anyway. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications center. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
I think that having two version of your resume is more common these days - fancy formatting for print and ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three pages, but the first page is summary and the last page is education, certifications and associations. I think that the length answer is three or under - if you've got more then its either too dated or you've done too much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the folks instead of pulling you to the top. One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each of the last five years should have at least four bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a little bit for introduction - I personally hate the "I want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every font and don't print double sided. Leave room for notes!!! (Sorry for being a mother hen!) For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it seems like there are two camps - those that put it in for HR and keyword search and those that don't want to work for a company that is too stupid to understand the relationship. (The position is too junior if they're looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) All the best. --- Pradeep Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page resume did not make it for a tech support position and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) What is more important than the size of the resume is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed being trained from Sniffer University and did not know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for being trained are sometimes more productive than a self-centered techies. So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) -PG -Original Message- From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the same anyway. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
Robert... I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here. The resume will NEVER... I repeat NEVER get you a job ... Only an interview... and the HR will go over to put the full package together SO lets get this... The interview and what end of the salary you fall on The CCNA just might get the resume from the HR to techies,... who will say... hey we got a CCNP here... bottom line it can NOT hurt you to put the CCNA under the CCNP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I think that having two version of your resume is more common these days - fancy formatting for print and ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three pages, but the first page is summary and the last page is education, certifications and associations. I think that the length answer is three or under - if you've got more then its either too dated or you've done too much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the folks instead of pulling you to the top. One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each of the last five years should have at least four bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a little bit for introduction - I personally hate the "I want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every font and don't print double sided. Leave room for notes!!! (Sorry for being a mother hen!) For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it seems like there are two camps - those that put it in for HR and keyword search and those that don't want to work for a company that is too stupid to understand the relationship. (The position is too junior if they're looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) All the best. --- Pradeep Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page resume did not make it for a tech support position and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) What is more important than the size of the resume is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed being trained from Sniffer University and did not know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for being trained are sometimes more productive than a self-centered techies. So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) -PG -Original Message- From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
My latest incarnation is two and I don't think I'll ever let it go to three... but I'm certainly no authority on the matter ;-) Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bradley J. Wilson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 6:25 PM To: cisco Subject: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? - Original Message - From: Brandon Rose To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean page - though it sometimes goes over a little. If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds a lot of paper right there. Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating system, and equipment list some people include. It doesn't leave much room to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in the long run. I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean" resume issue. Is there a conflict? I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with footnotes and a bibliography. I know most of my MBA friends would say it's all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as possible. heh I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think? I'll be sure to bring this up with him when I see him. One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea what the certs mean (but do they mean anything? that's a whole other topic right there). My $.02, Brandon - holder of various acronyms -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes I have done something similar as Ole, On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams passed and courses taken. If passing an exam completed a certification I note that in brackets. i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed) On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a track. The same for my business card, the senior certs only. But on job boards I check off every single cert due to searches by HR people who may not know/understand the progression. There was a time when I chided people for putting down MCP/MCSE. But I didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference - they're supposed to know the market they're recruiting for... right? right. Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the same anyway. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the same anyway. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I made mine in HTML with links to the various parts on the top of the page, so it can be as long as I think it need be, while at the same time being Fast Easy to read (tm). Luckily, I don't get people asking me for the word version nowadays. Francisco. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep mine under *four* pages! ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess. I had one guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell curve going on what the average resume length is? How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the same anyway. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
