Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
Yeah but guess what happens when you go to the lab for a spin. The proctor sees that you were a Landscape Engineer (mowed lawns) six months ago, and they give you the lab that makes you configure BGP in 3-D with the undocumented feature set. Imagine the fright that comes over you in the lab, and how silly you look with those glasses on. So I always answer that I invented the Internet and the only reason why I am taking the test is for a friend. Don - Original Message - From: "VoIP Guy" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > I always say I am changing careers, never seen a router, have no certs, etc. > Some people have told me they swear that if you say you are the man on that > survey, they really make the test harder. I'm afraid to find out myself :) > > > ""Scott Nawalaniec"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the > questions > > in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would > affect > > the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every > time? > > But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, but I > have > > answered the questions sometimes falsely, to see if I get easier or harder > > questions and I haven't come to a conclusion. I hope it doesn't affect it, > > but weirder things happen. > > > > I like to say that is my 0010 cents. =) > > > > Scott > > > > Scott Nawalaniec > > Telecomm Network Administrator > > CCNP, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > > > > > > Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed > > yet. > > > > Off topic: > > > > Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the > > survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, > > etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you > know > > the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you > said > > no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home > $125 > > poorer? > > > > > > > > ""Brian"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. > > Dont > > > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every > exam. > > > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > > > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > > > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard > > from > > > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > > > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > > > > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > > > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > > > > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) > > Print > > > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > > > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study > guides, > > > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I > suggest > > > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up > > the > > > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read > > the > > > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but > > that > > > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is > > now > > > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > > > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > > > > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26989&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
When did you take the exam? I took routing on Nov 3 and I am curious when the change was made. I paid for CIT and Switching on 10/31/01 in order to pay the lower price. Someone mentioned it in the list..thank you very much for that tip! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE actual questions on the exam anymore. Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26962&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
>My post turned out to be pretty popular. Do they take off points for eating >snacks in the room :) ha hahaa. OK sorry, this is the last post, everyone >stop :) Happy Turkey Day :) Tries to picture someone happily distributing fortune cookies to the proctors, but keeping a few for themselves...the ones with the RIF decoder. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26944&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
For those who answer the survey as a 'newbie' - do you use the same
candidate ID each time you book a test, or do you pretend to be a different
person each time?
How many exams/certs do you have under that candidate ID? ;-)
I'm with Ole. I've never pretended to be a newbie, and the only exam I've
failed was the CCDE written beta (and a lot of good it would have done me
to pass it anyway - not). I can't see any reason why Cisco would want to
change the difficulty based on experience, and if they did, you could just
as easily argue that they might want to make it *harder* for newbies so
they don't have too many 'paper' cert holders.
JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 21/11/2001 09:17 am -
"Ole
Drews
Jensen" To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams
[7:26850]
Sent
by:
nobody@groups
tudy.com
21/11/2001
08:03
am
Please
respond
to
"Ole
Drews
Jensen"
You could ask yourself: "WHY???" - Why would they make the test harder or
easier depending on what you answer them. I would think that they are
looking to certify people that meets a certain level, and not lower that
level if you're a beginner.
That would be the same as telling a retarded guy cleaning the public
restrooms downtown that he wouldn't need to pass as many tests as normal to
become a brain surgeon, and to tell the doctors son that he needs a 100% to
pass.
They are simply gathering information about the people around the world who
are taking their exams.
It's funny with rumours like these - it takes 1 second to start them, but
years to stop them.
It almost reminds me of an e-mail I received about a dangerous fax-virus
that would destroy my fax if called by an infected fax.
If it helps, I can let you know that I have always answered the survey
correctly, and I have not failed a Cisco test yet.
Have a great day.
Ole
~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
NEED A JOB ???
http://www.oledrews.com/job
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-Original Message-
From: Kaminski, Shawn G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I must share your superstition. I always filled out the survey as if I was
doing a career change and didn't know squat about networking even though
I've got numerous certs and have hands-on experience. I've heard that the
grading of an exam is somewhat based on your answers to this survey. So, I
don't think that the questions would be more difficult, just possibly the
grading. Whether it's true or why they would do this, I don't know. It's
just an interesting bit of information I heard about and decided that it's
better to be safe than sorry!
Shawn
-Original Message-----
From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed
yet.
Off topic:
Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the
survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have,
etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know
the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said
no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home
$125
poorer?
""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for
> you.
Dont
> be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every
> exam. That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th)
> for test indicates that things have changed very much. I say this
> because Cisco states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I
> have just heard
from
> friends that took it and that alot of their friends
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
My post turned out to be pretty popular. Do they take off points for eating snacks in the room :) ha hahaa. OK sorry, this is the last post, everyone stop :) Happy Turkey Day :) ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26936&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
Ditto Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] If it helps, I can let you know that I have always answered the survey correctly, and I have not failed a Cisco test yet. Have a great day. Ole Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26928&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
C'mon. Sounds like a typical "Urban Legend" if ya ask me. If you're prepared for the exam, the way you answer the survey, truthfully or notwill have absoultely no bearing on the outcome of the exam. Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kaminski, Shawn G Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] I must share your superstition. I always filled out the survey as if I was doing a career change and didn't know squat about networking even though I've got numerous certs and have hands-on experience. I've heard that the grading of an exam is somewhat based on your answers to this survey. So, I don't think that the questions would be more difficult, just possibly the grading. Whether it's true or why they would do this, I don't know. It's just an interesting bit of information I heard about and decided that it's better to be safe than sorry! Shawn -Original Message- From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for > you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every > exam. That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) > for test indicates that things have changed very much. I say this > because Cisco states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I > have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I > have failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the > following year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study > guides, dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. > I suggest exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco > press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to > read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, > but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson > is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26925&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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HA HA, I am SO afraid to say what I really know on that, on M$ exams and Cisco. I am scared to death of that survey. I was afraid to lie when it asked me on a CISCO exam if I was an MCSE, and I said I was MCSE. And I also failed the test :( What I do is if my answer is somewhere in the middle of the two, I put the lower one. I am the type of person who is afraid to say anything that is not true. ha ha. My personality is just a nervous and anxiety type anyway :) I could never be in the crime business. Would I get in trouble if I didnt say I was an MCSE? I was afraid to find that out since they can check my MCSE #. Please Cisco, remove this from the exams, ill pay 150. (JUST KIDDING) ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26923&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
You could ask yourself: "WHY???" - Why would they make the test harder or easier depending on what you answer them. I would think that they are looking to certify people that meets a certain level, and not lower that level if you're a beginner. That would be the same as telling a retarded guy cleaning the public restrooms downtown that he wouldn't need to pass as many tests as normal to become a brain surgeon, and to tell the doctors son that he needs a 100% to pass. They are simply gathering information about the people around the world who are taking their exams. It's funny with rumours like these - it takes 1 second to start them, but years to stop them. It almost reminds me of an e-mail I received about a dangerous fax-virus that would destroy my fax if called by an infected fax. If it helps, I can let you know that I have always answered the survey correctly, and I have not failed a Cisco test yet. Have a great day. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Kaminski, Shawn G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] I must share your superstition. I always filled out the survey as if I was doing a career change and didn't know squat about networking even though I've got numerous certs and have hands-on experience. I've heard that the grading of an exam is somewhat based on your answers to this survey. So, I don't think that the questions would be more difficult, just possibly the grading. Whether it's true or why they would do this, I don't know. It's just an interesting bit of information I heard about and decided that it's better to be safe than sorry! Shawn -Original Message- From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for > you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every > exam. That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) > for test indicates that things have changed very much. I say this > because Cisco states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I > have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I > have failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the > following year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study > guides, dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. > I suggest exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco > press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to > read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, > but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson > is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26921&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We need to start listing these on the Groupstudy website as Cisco-related Urban Myths. :-) >>> "VoIP Guy" 11/20/01 1:19:33 PM >>> I always say I am changing careers, never seen a router, have no certs, etc. Some people have told me they swear that if you say you are the man on that survey, they really make the test harder. I'm afraid to find out myself :) ""Scott Nawalaniec"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the questions > in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would affect > the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every time? > But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, but I have > answered the questions sometimes falsely, to see if I get easier or harder > questions and I haven't come to a conclusion. I hope it doesn't affect it, > but weirder things happen. > > I like to say that is my 0010 cents. =) > > Scott > > Scott Nawalaniec > Telecomm Network Administrator > CCNP, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+ > > -Original Message- > From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > > > Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed > yet. > > Off topic: > > Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the > survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, > etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know > the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said > no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 > poorer? > > > > ""Brian"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. > Dont > > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard > from > > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) > Print > > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up > the > > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read > the > > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but > that > > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is > now > > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26920&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I seriously doubt that the questions asked has anything to do with your answers in the survey. I believe this discussion was running for some time a year or so ago - try the archives. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Scott Nawalaniec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the questions in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would affect the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every time? But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, but I have answered the questions sometimes falsely, to see if I get easier or harder questions and I haven't come to a conclusion. I hope it doesn't affect it, but weirder things happen. I like to say that is my 0010 cents. =) Scott Scott Nawalaniec Telecomm Network Administrator CCNP, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+ -Original Message- From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26917&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I always say I am changing careers, never seen a router, have no certs, etc. Some people have told me they swear that if you say you are the man on that survey, they really make the test harder. I'm afraid to find out myself :) ""Scott Nawalaniec"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the questions > in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would affect > the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every time? > But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, but I have > answered the questions sometimes falsely, to see if I get easier or harder > questions and I haven't come to a conclusion. I hope it doesn't affect it, > but weirder things happen. > > I like to say that is my 0010 cents. =) > > Scott > > Scott Nawalaniec > Telecomm Network Administrator > CCNP, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+ > > -Original Message- > From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > > > Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed > yet. > > Off topic: > > Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the > survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, > etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know > the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said > no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 > poorer? > > > > ""Brian"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. > Dont > > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard > from > > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) > Print > > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up > the > > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read > the > > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but > that > > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is > now > > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26915&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I must share your superstition. I always filled out the survey as if I was doing a career change and didn't know squat about networking even though I've got numerous certs and have hands-on experience. I've heard that the grading of an exam is somewhat based on your answers to this survey. So, I don't think that the questions would be more difficult, just possibly the grading. Whether it's true or why they would do this, I don't know. It's just an interesting bit of information I heard about and decided that it's better to be safe than sorry! Shawn -Original Message- From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for > you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every > exam. That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) > for test indicates that things have changed very much. I say this > because Cisco states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I > have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I > have failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the > following year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study > guides, dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. > I suggest exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco > press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to > read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, > but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson > is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26914&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
VoIP Guy has brought up a very good question. I wouldn't think the questions in the beginning asking for background information and so forth would affect the difficulty of test. Why would they ask you this information every time? But I think it affects the difficulty of the test. Call me crazy, but I have answered the questions sometimes falsely, to see if I get easier or harder questions and I haven't come to a conclusion. I hope it doesn't affect it, but weirder things happen. I like to say that is my 0010 cents. =) Scott Scott Nawalaniec Telecomm Network Administrator CCNP, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, CNA, MCP, Network+ -Original Message- From: VoIP Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26910&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I used the BCRAN from McGraw-Hill. Follow my RouterChief link and look. You have a nice TG too... Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] I said "these books are my suggestion" I didnt say use ONLY these books. I am just a guy on the internet. Im sure people dont take my emails as the final word on CCNP. Just curtious so I know when I take it, what did you use for BCRAN? CCNP Cisco? I have that book already if it is. But havnt got that far yet. I just bought the Cisco CCNP training kit (released in OCT 2001) from BN. it was like $91 with my readers discount. I figured it was a good investment, since i have to take all 4 exams anyway. The kit claims not only to teach you what you need for the exam, but what you need for on the job, which is what is important to me. It says it has 1200 practice questions and it monitors where your weak points are. Please dont take my post as the final word on CCNP exams. I am just a humble CCNA :) I hope everyone has a nice thanksgiving. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26909&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sure ;) ""VoIP Guy"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed > yet. > > Off topic: > > Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the > survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, > etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know > the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said > no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 > poorer? > > > > ""Brian"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. > Dont > > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard > from > > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) > Print > > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up > the > > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read > the > > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but > that > > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is > now > > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26903&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I said "these books are my suggestion" I didnt say use ONLY these books. I am just a guy on the internet. Im sure people dont take my emails as the final word on CCNP. Just curtious so I know when I take it, what did you use for BCRAN? CCNP Cisco? I have that book already if it is. But havnt got that far yet. I just bought the Cisco CCNP training kit (released in OCT 2001) from BN. it was like $91 with my readers discount. I figured it was a good investment, since i have to take all 4 exams anyway. The kit claims not only to teach you what you need for the exam, but what you need for on the job, which is what is important to me. It says it has 1200 practice questions and it monitors where your weak points are. Please dont take my post as the final word on CCNP exams. I am just a humble CCNA :) I hope everyone has a nice thanksgiving. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26901&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
Just did one to see and they are just as easy as always. Nothing changed yet. Off topic: Is it just me and my superstitions, or does any one else feel that the survey before each test on how many certs you have, experience you have, etc., changes the difficulty on the test based on how well you say you know the stuff, number of yearsd in, etc,.? Also, what would happen if you said no the the NDA before the test? Does it boot you off and send you home $125 poorer? ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26899&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
You are probably right about the reviews, which is why I mostly go for books with more than 10 different ones - and better if even more. I also agree with you about multiple books - I have done that with all my exams except the BCRAN, because that book was just perfect (in my eyes). However, I have seen people who just get it right away. I mean, you can show them the worst book, and they will understand the entire thing right away, and go up and score 1000. Me, on the other hand, unless it's a really good book (again - for me that is) do not always get it right away, and must re-read it in the same and/or other books, and then after still not getting it when answering wrong on a boson test, finally figure it out. What I was trying to say was, that I think you should be careful posting to a list that some books just don't work for the exam(s), because there are always many new members, and some of them might never buy one of those books you talk badly about, and that would not be fair to the writers nor to the publishers, because those books are probably pretty good in other peoples eyes. Anyway, this is still my 2 cents, and I like to say that :-) Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] Did you ever think that some people on amazon are mixing the reviews just to throw people off, and slow them down from getting certified? On the flip note, It could be the authors friends posting good stuff about the books. I guess you could call this Job security either way. So in my posting I just really say use multiple books. I think that is a good idea. The boson exam Idea, someone else posted here. It said that the CCIE boson had alot of the same questions, and why was it legal to do that. No matter what, test are just paper. You have to know the true matieral, and how things work to be gainfully employed and successful. And everyone must recertify CCNP every 2 years, and I think thats a good idea on Ciscos part. logic alone will not get you very far. I am not saying that is my 2 cents, because i dont like that saying :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26880&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
Did you ever think that some people on amazon are mixing the reviews just to throw people off, and slow them down from getting certified? On the flip note, It could be the authors friends posting good stuff about the books. I guess you could call this Job security either way. So in my posting I just really say use multiple books. I think that is a good idea. The boson exam Idea, someone else posted here. It said that the CCIE boson had alot of the same questions, and why was it legal to do that. No matter what, test are just paper. You have to know the true matieral, and how things work to be gainfully employed and successful. And everyone must recertify CCNP every 2 years, and I think thats a good idea on Ciscos part. logic alone will not get you very far. I am not saying that is my 2 cents, because i dont like that saying :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26874&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
If you're good at something - a test may seem easy. On the other hand, if you're not good at something - a test may seem very tough. The point is, the exams are no harder than you make them, and if everything makes sense to you and you have a good logical way of thinking - the CCIE lab could seem like a walk in the park to you. Also, you should be careful how you talk about books. Some books might not work for you, but could be excellent for other. A good example is when you read the reviews on amazon - you can find one person writing that the books was perfect, and he passed the exam reading only that book, while another person who failed the exam is sending the book straight to hell. In regards to the Boson tests. They gives you a good fine tuning to prepare for the exam, but as far as I know has never given you the exact same questions as on the real one - that would be an open invitation to a big lawsuit from Cisco. If anyone has a link to an official comment/article from Cisco regarding the change of their tests to harder ones, please send that to the list. My 0020 cents. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] I started taking the CCNP exams under the 1.0 versions. I took the CLSC (Switching), CMTD (RAS) and failed the ACRC (Routing) exams, then the switch happened. I then took the Routing exam, and the old ACRC made the routing exam I took look like a walk in the park. After that, the Support exam wasn't challenging at all. It wouldn't surprise me if Cisco decided to increase the difficulty on those exams. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College > -Original Message- > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some > advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 > on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have > just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are > failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since > the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have > much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any > study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c > anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press > to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you > want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go > overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too > much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26866&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
I started taking the CCNP exams under the 1.0 versions. I took the CLSC (Switching), CMTD (RAS) and failed the ACRC (Routing) exams, then the switch happened. I then took the Routing exam, and the old ACRC made the routing exam I took look like a walk in the park. After that, the Support exam wasn't challenging at all. It wouldn't surprise me if Cisco decided to increase the difficulty on those exams. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College > -Original Message- > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850] > > > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some > advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 > on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have > just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are > failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since > the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have > much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any > study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c > anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press > to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you > want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go > overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too > much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26857&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on CCNP exams [7:26850]
If it's true that the exams are changing, I'll take one today and let you guys know how it is different, if at all. ""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all those people who are starting CCNP, I have some advice for you. Dont > be discouraged by all the people telling you they got a 990 on every exam. > That was then, and this is now. I new price of 125 (Nov 11th) for test > indicates that things have changed very much. I say this because Cisco > states the 125 is for the cost of changing the exams. I have just heard from > friends that took it and that alot of their friends are failing. I have > failed CCNP Routing as well just recently. > > The number of CCNPs has increased this year, by 100% since the following > year, I think that trend is coming to a screaching halt. > > How to study, it should be common sense, which i dont have much of :) Print > out the study guideline from Cisco, and know everything they mention > forwards and backwards. Obviously OSPF, BGP. If you have any study guides, > dont really put much stock in them there not worth 2c anymore. I suggest > exam cram for a basic idea of what its about, and cisco press to look up the > things that are hard to understand. And maybe sybex if you want to read the > entire book :) I think some of the questions on Boson go overboard, but that > might be what you need. I guess it cant hurt to know too much. Boson is now > only good for learning what type of questions are on the exam, not THE > actual questions on the exam anymore. > > Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26855&t=26850 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
