Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same PC's and NIC's. Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33205&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I meant 3c905b's are nice. I think the 509's are old ISA cards. ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread > over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same > PC's and NIC's. > > Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. > How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort > of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even > loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's > have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network > connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33206&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I was just discussing this with one of the LAN guys here and it sound like the problem is with the Novell client and some service it expects to be running before a user logs in. If the network is unavailable and that service doesn't start in time and then a user attempts to log in, the PC reboots. It appears to be a combination of "features" that cause the problem. John >>> "Steven A. Ridder" 1/25/02 9:09:00 AM >>> Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same PC's and NIC's. Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33208&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I am still having nightmares about the 509's - they were nasty. However, with the portfast on my 3548 interfaces, I have not had any problems with the about 40 Dell's we have with 3C905B's. The only big problem I have with Dell computers (but I have that with some other ones too), are the combination of 98 2nd ed., McAfee Virus Scan and Novell NW Client. That makes about half of them go into ORBIT mode with shutting down, even after following the MS Knowledgebase steps to prevent this. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with Cisco Studies, so forget about that again... Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] I meant 3c905b's are nice. I think the 509's are old ISA cards. ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread > over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same > PC's and NIC's. > > Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. > How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort > of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even > loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's > have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network > connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33209&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast did not reduce the time sufficiently. So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33211&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
When I ran into the problem with 3Com NIC's in new Dell, the solution was to download a driver/maintenance disk from either Dell or 3Com, and make it bootable. We then went into the hardware configuration of the NIC and disabled power management and WakeOnLan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] I meant 3c905b's are nice. I think the 509's are old ISA cards. ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread > over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same > PC's and NIC's. > > Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. > How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort > of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even > loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's > have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network > connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33210&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I don't think the issue is the switch, but the fact that spanning tree is running. I would guess that any feature that causes the network to be unavailable when one of these machines boots up would cause this problem. In fact, it happens even if you're not connected to the network at all. The problem appears to be a combination of issues with the NIC and the new Novell Client software. This problem does not occur in the previous software with these same NICs. John >>> "Bill Carter" 1/25/02 10:13:01 AM >>> I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast did not reduce the time sufficiently. So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33212&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
At 10:57 AM 1/25/02 -0500, John Neiberger wrote: >Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell >machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect >the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't >handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast >did not reduce the time sufficiently. > >So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > >John Disable portfast, disable channeling, disable trunking on all "user" ports, and it will be fast enough. Also, you might want to lock the speeds. -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33219&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
There are a ton of errors with 3Com NICs that have been addresses by loading the latest driver from 3Com. See http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html#NIC for the details. - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > I don't think the issue is the switch, but the fact that spanning tree > is running. I would guess that any feature that causes the network to > be unavailable when one of these machines boots up would cause this > problem. In fact, it happens even if you're not connected to the > network at all. > > The problem appears to be a combination of issues with the NIC and the > new Novell Client software. This problem does not occur in the previous > software with these same NICs. > > John > > >>> "Bill Carter" 1/25/02 10:13:01 AM >>> > I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Neiberger > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even > portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33220&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
but they were stable! >>> "Steven A. Ridder" 01/25/02 11:13AM >>> I meant 3c905b's are nice. I think the 509's are old ISA cards. ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems! There's a thread > over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the same > PC's and NIC's. > > Usually the 3c509's are OK. I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid. > How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast? Or are the NIC's some sort > of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even > loads. Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's > have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network > connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways. > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33225&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
Actually, It's not just spanning-tree that causes it... Are you familiar with "set port host?" It's a macro in newer CatOS. In addition to enabling portfast on a port, it also disables channel and trunk negotiation, with is enabled by default. On older CatOS code, you have to perform each of these three steps independantly, but you can achieve the same results. This has always corrected the problem for me... HTH, Alan - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > I don't think the issue is the switch, but the fact that spanning tree > is running. I would guess that any feature that causes the network to > be unavailable when one of these machines boots up would cause this > problem. In fact, it happens even if you're not connected to the > network at all. > > The problem appears to be a combination of issues with the NIC and the > new Novell Client software. This problem does not occur in the previous > software with these same NICs. > > John > > >>> "Bill Carter" 1/25/02 10:13:01 AM >>> > I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Neiberger > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even > portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33226&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
The 2924XL isn't a CatOS switch. Do you know if it has the equivalent command? I was under the impression that a switchport on a 2924XL was an access port by default and had to be manually set to be a trunk port of any sort. Is that not correct? I'll need to check into that as well. Thanks, John >>> "W. Alan Robertson" 1/25/02 11:35:00 AM >>> Actually, It's not just spanning-tree that causes it... Are you familiar with "set port host?" It's a macro in newer CatOS. In addition to enabling portfast on a port, it also disables channel and trunk negotiation, with is enabled by default. On older CatOS code, you have to perform each of these three steps independantly, but you can achieve the same results. This has always corrected the problem for me... HTH, Alan - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > I don't think the issue is the switch, but the fact that spanning tree > is running. I would guess that any feature that causes the network to > be unavailable when one of these machines boots up would cause this > problem. In fact, it happens even if you're not connected to the > network at all. > > The problem appears to be a combination of issues with the NIC and the > new Novell Client software. This problem does not occur in the previous > software with these same NICs. > > John > > >>> "Bill Carter" 1/25/02 10:13:01 AM >>> > I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Neiberger > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even > portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33234&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I don't think there is an equivilent IOS command and yes it's an access by default, VLAN 1 of coarse!! Dave John Neiberger wrote: > > The 2924XL isn't a CatOS switch. Do you know if it has the equivalent > command? I was under the impression that a switchport on a 2924XL was > an access port by default and had to be manually set to be a trunk port > of any sort. > > Is that not correct? I'll need to check into that as well. > > Thanks, > John > > >>> "W. Alan Robertson" 1/25/02 11:35:00 AM > >>> > Actually, > > It's not just spanning-tree that causes it... > > Are you familiar with "set port host?" It's a macro in newer CatOS. > In addition to enabling portfast on a port, it also disables channel > and trunk negotiation, with is enabled by default. On older CatOS > code, you have to perform each of these three steps independantly, but > you can achieve the same results. > > This has always corrected the problem for me... > > HTH, > > Alan > > ----- Original Message - > From: "John Neiberger" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:17 PM > Subject: RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > I don't think the issue is the switch, but the fact that spanning > tree > > is running. I would guess that any feature that causes the network > to > > be unavailable when one of these machines boots up would cause this > > problem. In fact, it happens even if you're not connected to the > > network at all. > > > > The problem appears to be a combination of issues with the NIC and > the > > new Novell Client software. This problem does not occur in the > previous > > software with these same NICs. > > > > John > > > > >>> "Bill Carter" 1/25/02 10:13:01 AM >>> > > I wonder if these cards would have problems with 3Com switches > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of > > John Neiberger > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:58 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with > Dell > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They > expect > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even > > portfast > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33243&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
gee, and my customer happens to have a 3com NIC. whaddaya know!! ( he has a generic PC, but what's sauce for the goose... - guess I will tell him to try an Intel NIC ) Chuck ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33246&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I guess this is a reminder once again to start troubleshooting with the PHY and MAC layers. Excellent link. Thanks. Priscilla At 05:10 PM 1/25/02, Mike Mandulak wrote: >Nah! They have their problems as well. You just need to load the latest NIC >driver and check their settings. Just read the link that I posted earlier, >it covers most of the issues discovered with switches and NICs (including >Intel). > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html#NIC > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chuck Larrieu" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:23 PM > > Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > > > > > gee, and my customer happens to have a 3com NIC. whaddaya know!! ( >he > > > has a generic PC, but what's sauce for the goose... - guess I will tell > > him > > > to try an Intel NIC ) > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even >portfast > > > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > > > > > John Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33249&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
I found out that we do have the most recent drivers so it's either a "feature" to be fixed later or we just need to tweak the settings. Our LAN people are going to do some more testing and I'll let you all know what they find. John >>> "Mike Mandulak" 1/25/02 3:10:49 PM >>> Nah! They have their problems as well. You just need to load the latest NIC driver and check their settings. Just read the link that I posted earlier, it covers most of the issues discovered with switches and NICs (including Intel). http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html#NIC > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Larrieu" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > > gee, and my customer happens to have a 3com NIC. whaddaya know!! ( he > > has a generic PC, but what's sauce for the goose... - guess I will tell > him > > to try an Intel NIC ) > > > > Chuck > > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with Dell > > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They expect > > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't > > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even portfast > > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33250&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
Some of the most common problems that we ran into while converting from a hub to a switched environment (in no particular order) were NIC drivers out of date, auto negotiate failures (hard coding the speed/duplex if the switch and nic usually fixed that, alignment errors on the switch were usually a good indication of that). Portfast not being set on the switch. Users having their PC's moved to different floors without them checking the port settings on the switch. Finding CAT3 wiring sporadically throughout the building, Servers not having the NICs hard coded. There were plenty more... But the problem usually got fixed by something in that document link that I sent. - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: ; Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > I found out that we do have the most recent drivers so it's either a > "feature" to be fixed later or we just need to tweak the settings. Our > LAN people are going to do some more testing and I'll let you all know > what they find. > > John > > >>> "Mike Mandulak" 1/25/02 3:10:49 PM >>> > Nah! They have their problems as well. You just need to load the latest > NIC > driver and check their settings. Just read the link that I posted > earlier, > it covers most of the issues discovered with switches and NICs > (including > Intel). > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html#NIC > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Chuck Larrieu" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:23 PM > > Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] > > > > > > > gee, and my customer happens to have a 3com NIC. whaddaya > know!! ( > he > > > has a generic PC, but what's sauce for the goose... - guess I will > tell > > him > > > to try an Intel NIC ) > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Well, sort of resolved. This turned out to be a known issue with > Dell > > > > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC. They > expect > > > > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and > can't > > > > handle the delay caused by spanning tree. In some cases, even > portfast > > > > did not reduce the time sufficiently. > > > > > > > > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs! > > > > > > > > John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33253&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
That's interesting, I work at Intel and we test our nics and drivers here in the lab all day. I would be willing to help out anyone who are having problems with their Intel nics. John, what version of the Novell client are you using? -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33254&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]
It would be a great help to have Intel NIC's as the built in NIC an Dell's! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of juno vtv Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203] That's interesting, I work at Intel and we test our nics and drivers here in the lab all day. I would be willing to help out anyone who are having problems with their Intel nics. John, what version of the Novell client are you using? -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33427&t=33203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
