Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
As an uninvolved onlooker to the thread, I'd say you can't get much fairer than that. One thing I'd say Michael, is that when I looked at your site, I was only a little suspicious because all the contacts were via e-mail and no one was named. If I had problems, I'm probably old fashioned but I would like to speak to someone if possible. It would also made me feel a little more secure about sending you my hard earned, if there was more than just an e-mail. I'm sure this probably isn't the case once you book lab time, but just browsing it might be more inviting. Your post appearing on the group has already made your company seem more accessible. Just letting you know my impression of it. I'm sure there's room for a venture of this kind and your racks seem reasonable enough to re-coup some of your outlay without making you a millionaire which seems fair enough to me. Also on the bright side, I think this thread's unintentionally given you more good publicity than bad. Good Luck Gaz CCArbitrator.com ""Michael Brady"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Group, > > I normally wouldn't jump into a discussion about this (and I normally only > post in the CCIE group), but I would like to clarify a few things about > ccRouters.com. First of all, Michael Lea (who started this thread) is not > the owner and doesn't have any interest in the success of the site. He is a > customer who rented some time from me and was happy with the service and > wanted to let others know (like others do for all resources available). > Secondly, the name wasn't chosen to be mistaken for ccbootcamp. I think > everyone here knows who ccbootcamp is and knows what they have to offer. > Besides, there are several other sites that start with "cc" that provide > resources for Cisco Certification (i.e. - ccprep.com, ccstudy.com). I have > personally purchased several things from Brad and Marc (including attending > their bootcamp class) and have been pleased with their service. ccRouters > was started so I could try to recoup some of the cost of acquiring the rack > to prepare for my CCIE and not to imitate ccbootcamp. Lastly, the rate for > a 16-hour session stated below is the regular price and does not reflect the > special pricing available. > > Thanks, > Michael > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Carl > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE prep [7:30730] > > > Brad, > Just because the site starts with CC we will not confuse it with yours > This may be hard to believe but their are other companies out there > besides yours.. I do not think this is spam just because Michale has > not been very active in this group. Hopefully this company will be more > successful than others. I hope they don't hit rock bottom and sell of > there racks on ebay. > > Brad Ellis wrote: > > >GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They > >are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > > > >Michael, couple things: > > > >Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your > >spamming your site, not good. > > > >Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when > >they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from > >us? Just curious. > > > >thanks, > >-Brad Ellis > >CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > >Network Learning Inc > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net > >CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > > > >""Michael Lea"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > >>FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack > >>rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when > >>you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time > >> > >>Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30820&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
Okay, it looks like I jumped the gun. I wanted to publically apologize to both Mikes! :) There was another company using false email accounts to advertise their product last week, and I thought we were seeing more of the same. Sorry about that guys! Both Mikes are good people. Michael Brady is a good guy and Im sure will provide excellent service to anyone out there!!! :) (trying to get my foot out of my mouth) -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Michael Brady"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Group, > > I normally wouldn't jump into a discussion about this (and I normally only > post in the CCIE group), but I would like to clarify a few things about > ccRouters.com. First of all, Michael Lea (who started this thread) is not > the owner and doesn't have any interest in the success of the site. He is a > customer who rented some time from me and was happy with the service and > wanted to let others know (like others do for all resources available). > Secondly, the name wasn't chosen to be mistaken for ccbootcamp. I think > everyone here knows who ccbootcamp is and knows what they have to offer. > Besides, there are several other sites that start with "cc" that provide > resources for Cisco Certification (i.e. - ccprep.com, ccstudy.com). I have > personally purchased several things from Brad and Marc (including attending > their bootcamp class) and have been pleased with their service. ccRouters > was started so I could try to recoup some of the cost of acquiring the rack > to prepare for my CCIE and not to imitate ccbootcamp. Lastly, the rate for > a 16-hour session stated below is the regular price and does not reflect the > special pricing available. > > Thanks, > Michael > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Carl > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE prep [7:30730] > > > Brad, > Just because the site starts with CC we will not confuse it with yours > This may be hard to believe but their are other companies out there > besides yours.. I do not think this is spam just because Michale has > not been very active in this group. Hopefully this company will be more > successful than others. I hope they don't hit rock bottom and sell of > there racks on ebay. > > Brad Ellis wrote: > > >GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They > >are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > > > >Michael, couple things: > > > >Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your > >spamming your site, not good. > > > >Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when > >they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from > >us? Just curious. > > > >thanks, > >-Brad Ellis > >CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > >Network Learning Inc > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net > >CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > > > >""Michael Lea"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > >>FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack > >>rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when > >>you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time > >> > >>Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30817&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE prep [7:30730]
Hello Group, I normally wouldn't jump into a discussion about this (and I normally only post in the CCIE group), but I would like to clarify a few things about ccRouters.com. First of all, Michael Lea (who started this thread) is not the owner and doesn't have any interest in the success of the site. He is a customer who rented some time from me and was happy with the service and wanted to let others know (like others do for all resources available). Secondly, the name wasn't chosen to be mistaken for ccbootcamp. I think everyone here knows who ccbootcamp is and knows what they have to offer. Besides, there are several other sites that start with "cc" that provide resources for Cisco Certification (i.e. - ccprep.com, ccstudy.com). I have personally purchased several things from Brad and Marc (including attending their bootcamp class) and have been pleased with their service. ccRouters was started so I could try to recoup some of the cost of acquiring the rack to prepare for my CCIE and not to imitate ccbootcamp. Lastly, the rate for a 16-hour session stated below is the regular price and does not reflect the special pricing available. Thanks, Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE prep [7:30730] Brad, Just because the site starts with CC we will not confuse it with yours This may be hard to believe but their are other companies out there besides yours.. I do not think this is spam just because Michale has not been very active in this group. Hopefully this company will be more successful than others. I hope they don't hit rock bottom and sell of there racks on ebay. Brad Ellis wrote: >GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They >are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > >Michael, couple things: > >Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your >spamming your site, not good. > >Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when >they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from >us? Just curious. > >thanks, >-Brad Ellis >CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) >Network Learning Inc >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net >CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > >""Michael Lea"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack >>rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when >>you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time >> >>Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30805&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
Brad, Just because the site starts with CC we will not confuse it with yours This may be hard to believe but their are other companies out there besides yours.. I do not think this is spam just because Michale has not been very active in this group. Hopefully this company will be more successful than others. I hope they don't hit rock bottom and sell of there racks on ebay. Brad Ellis wrote: >GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They >are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > >Michael, couple things: > >Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your >spamming your site, not good. > >Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when >they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from >us? Just curious. > >thanks, >-Brad Ellis >CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) >Network Learning Inc >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net >CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > >""Michael Lea"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack >>rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when >>you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time >> >>Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30782&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
Brad, Just because the site starts with CC we will not confuse it with yours This may be hard to believe but their are other companies out there besides yours.. I do not think this is spam just because Michale has not been very active in this group. Hopefully this company will be more successful than others. I hope they don't hit rock bottom and sell of there racks on ebay. Brad Ellis wrote: >GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They >are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > >Michael, couple things: > >Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your >spamming your site, not good. > >Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when >they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from >us? Just curious. > >thanks, >-Brad Ellis >CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) >Network Learning Inc >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net >CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > >""Michael Lea"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack >>rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when >>you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time >> >>Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30782&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE prep [7:30730]
In speaking with various companies regarding smaller increments of rack time (8 hours), I have found that trying to administer the smaller increments can be an administrative nightmare. After seeing what Brad and Marc's company has to offer in terms of rack setups, I can understand why they have such a long lead time to get access. Their setup is incredible! They'll probably have to add more racks because of the demand. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE prep [7:30730] the idea of 24 hour rack rental can be attractive. especially for doing those full blown practice labs. OTOH, smaller increments make sense for a lot of reasons as well. Suppose I want to spend the last couple of weeks before the test doing certain specific things - voice, ATM, Cat configuration, for example? A couple of 8 hour sessions ( or less ) might be just the thing. Also, Brad, at present your racks require how much lead time to schedule? Last time I looked, it was weeks to months. One other place I looked it was days to a couple of weeks. I don't know at what point it makes it worth yours or any competitor's operation to add more racks, and I am not sure what the tolerance is for long lead times to get access. Supply and demand meet impatience. :-> I will say that in my experience, it has always been easy to reach someone in your office to check out various things, or to do voice testing. This is not always true elsewhere. JMHO Chuck ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They > are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > > Michael, couple things: > > Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and > your spamming your site, not good. > > Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when > they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from > us? Just curious. > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net > CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > > ""Michael Lea"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. > > Rack rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 > > hours when > > you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time > > > > Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30779&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
the idea of 24 hour rack rental can be attractive. especially for doing those full blown practice labs. OTOH, smaller increments make sense for a lot of reasons as well. Suppose I want to spend the last couple of weeks before the test doing certain specific things - voice, ATM, Cat configuration, for example? A couple of 8 hour sessions ( or less ) might be just the thing. Also, Brad, at present your racks require how much lead time to schedule? Last time I looked, it was weeks to months. One other place I looked it was days to a couple of weeks. I don't know at what point it makes it worth yours or any competitor's operation to add more racks, and I am not sure what the tolerance is for long lead times to get access. Supply and demand meet impatience. :-> I will say that in my experience, it has always been easy to reach someone in your office to check out various things, or to do voice testing. This is not always true elsewhere. JMHO Chuck ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They > are NOT affiliated with us in any way. > > Michael, couple things: > > Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your > spamming your site, not good. > > Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when > they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from > us? Just curious. > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net > CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html > > ""Michael Lea"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack > > rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when > > you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time > > > > Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30740&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep [7:30730]
GROUPSTUDY MEMBERS: PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS SITE WITH CCBOOTCAMP. They are NOT affiliated with us in any way. Michael, couple things: Your first post to the group (or at least in the past two months) and your spamming your site, not good. Why would anyone want to pay $100 for 16 hours of racktime without ATM when they can get the same type of gear for $80 (rack2) for a full 24 hours from us? Just curious. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html ""Michael Lea"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > FYI -- To those out there that are looking for cheap rack rentals. Rack > rental are for 8 hour increments so you do no pay for a full 24 hours when > you only may need 8-16 hours of rack time > > Here is the link: Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30735&t=30730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
