Re: learning facilities

2001-02-06 Thread suk Ciscostudy


Hi

If I had to opt from the list, I would go for BCMSN, because what you gain 
from the class will be more in this courese. This involve concepts and 
technology which you need to understand, that agin will help in CIT exam.

BCRAN is the easiest exam of the group and for CIT one need to sit and 
study. This test involves more of commands, test equipments etc.,
one need to put in a lot of time in self study anyway.

This is my point of view.

Hope this helps.
Sukhesh
CCNP, MCSE, ASE




From: "Lopez, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: learning facilities
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:28:20 -0500

Hello,

If you were given the opportunity to choose your classes for BCMSN, BCRAN
and CIT,  which training facility would rank at the top.  Which facility
would be the second choice?  TIA

Robert M. Lopez
Network Planning
Ann Arbor Data Center
Pfizer Global Research  Development
Phone 734-622-3948 Fax 734-622-1690



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RE: learning facilities

2001-02-05 Thread Daniel Cotts

Top for me would be Mentor Technologies because many of their instructors
are on staff as opposed to being contractors. They as a group have authored
several books that we all use. They have a long history of involvement with
Cisco. They even wrote some of the IOS. I took both the BCMSN and BSCN with
them at their NYC office. 
 
Second choice would be Global Knowledge because I have taken two courses
from them (when ARG) and felt that the instructors were excellent. Courses
were ICRC and Campus ATM. ICRC was in a rented facility (OpreyLand,
Tennessee). ATM at the GK facility in North Carolina.

I cannot comment on any of the other Training Partners.

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 Subject: learning facilities
 
 
 Hello,
 
 If you were given the opportunity to choose your classes for 
 BCMSN, BCRAN
 and CIT,  which training facility would rank at the top.  
 Which facility
 would be the second choice?  TIA
 
 Robert M. Lopez   
 Network Planning
 Ann Arbor Data Center
 Pfizer Global Research  Development
 Phone 734-622-3948Fax 734-622-1690
 
 
 
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RE: learning facilities

2001-02-05 Thread Buri, Heather H

I have only taken courses from Mentor Tech (previously Chesapeake
Consultants) and I have to say, they are excellent, both in their coverage
of the materials and in the knowledge of the proctors.

Heather Buri

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Subject: learning facilities


Hello,

If you were given the opportunity to choose your classes for BCMSN, BCRAN
and CIT,  which training facility would rank at the top.  Which facility
would be the second choice?  TIA

Robert M. Lopez   
Network Planning
Ann Arbor Data Center
Pfizer Global Research  Development
Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690



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Re: learning facilities

2001-02-05 Thread Carl Hagan, CCNP, MCSE, Excite.Com IS Dept.

The best training I have gotten from Cisco came from Certification Solution.
www.certificationsolution.com 

The worst we as a tech support group have attended lately has been Global
Knowledge who seems to be going way down hill.  Their classes seem to be
getting smaller, their instructors seem to be having less experience and the
equipment per student is getting less and has to be shared.  

Those are the only two though that I have personally attended. Because of
the bad feedback from Global Knowledge we here at Excite IT are all booking
classes through CS since they are cheaper, give the test vouchers and you
get your own equipment to use(Which helps big time).

Hope this helps.

Carl Hagan
Excite WAN Support Group  




On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:28:20 -0500 , Lopez, Robert wrote:

  Hello,
  
  If you were given the opportunity to choose your classes for BCMSN, BCRAN
  and CIT,  which training facility would rank at the top.  Which facility
  would be the second choice?  TIA
  
  Robert M. Lopez   
  Network Planning
  Ann Arbor Data Center
  Pfizer Global Research  Development
  Phone 734-622-3948   Fax 734-622-1690
  
  
  
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Re: learning facilities

2001-02-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hello,

If you were given the opportunity to choose your classes for BCMSN, BCRAN
and CIT,  which training facility would rank at the top.  Which facility
would be the second choice?  TIA

Robert M. Lopez  
Network Planning
Ann Arbor Data Center
Pfizer Global Research  Development
Phone 734-622-3948 Fax 734-622-1690


Well, it needs to be clear what is "facility" and what is 
"instructor."  There's no way that a traveling lab set up in a hotel 
or conference center will have the same convenience as a permanent 
training lab.

In my experience, while onsite private courses for particular 
customers may allow special customization and content relevance, the 
facilities tend to be even worse than hotels. My experience with MCI 
facilities, for example, have been...interesting.

Atlanta:  Try setting up a 12 router lab in a classroom that has one 
electrical outlet. Not circuit. Not even duplex receptacle. Outlet.

Chicago:  Long, skinny meeting room that was too narrow to let me 
stand next to the LCD projector.

While I left Geotrain before the GKN merger, their permanent 
facilities were decent. Mentor Labs and ARS have reasonable ones I've 
been in.

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