RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
I've had 3.5 installed on a laptop for about 2 months. I was waiting for 4.0! 4.0 is out for the DSS, just not portables. Brad Stanfield Network/Integration Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Norfolk Naval Shipyard Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 1-800-626-6622 -Original Message- From: Chuck Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:19 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Surprise. This has nothing to do with this highly annoying flame-fest. My question is about Sniffer Pro 3.5. Is this a typo, or is 3.5 out now? I've been waiting for the new version that runs on W2K, but I was told late November. Their web site says nothing about 3.5 yet. TIA, Chuck Church CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Sniffer Pro 3.5 is out already. 4.0 is coming out soon, I don't have the official release date. The windows 2000 version is supposed to be 4.5, and they told me that it was to be release some time near late November as well Aaron Parets -Original Message- From: Chuck Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:19 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Surprise. This has nothing to do with this highly annoying flame-fest. My question is about Sniffer Pro 3.5. Is this a typo, or is 3.5 out now? I've been waiting for the new version that runs on W2K, but I was told late November. Their web site says nothing about 3.5 yet. TIA, Chuck Church CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Surprise. This has nothing to do with this highly annoying flame-fest. My question is about Sniffer Pro 3.5. Is this a typo, or is 3.5 out now? I've been waiting for the new version that runs on W2K, but I was told late November. Their web site says nothing about 3.5 yet. TIA, Chuck Church CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
You are right Chris, Sniffers give Network Analysts a good diagnostic view of the network. and they sure make your life easier. Regards Adetola Akinmade CCNP,CCDA,MCSE Network Engineer Chevron Nig. Ltd "Our business in life is not merely to get ahead of others, but to get ahead of ourselves--to break our own records, to outstrip our yesterday by our today." --Stewart B. Johnson > -Original Message- > From: Chris Lemagie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:14 AM > To: William E Gragido; derek lewinson > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > Got a question for ya Will. > > Have you ever had to diagnose network performance or response time > problems??? How about poor application performance on your network??? > > If so, what tools do you use??? > > I personally believe that any questions regarding the use of Network > Associates Sniffer products are valid in this or any study group > pertaining > to network theory, design or certifications. Sniffer products are some of > the most widely used and trusted network troubleshooting tools available > today. Just ask any experienced Network/Systems Engineer. > > All Cisco SE types that I work with have used these tools quite > frequently. > > I would strongly suggest taking a moment to think about how a study group > members question relates to networking in general before you flame them in > the future. Remember, network theory and troubleshooting are a BIG part > of > most Cisco Certification exams... > > Of course, this is just my personal opinion and does not reflect the > opinion > of Cisco Systems, Inc. > > I would guess that I'm not alone in my opinion however. > > Please feel free to e-mail or call if you have any questions... > > Thanks for your valuable time... > > > Chris Lemagie > Systems Engineer > Cisco Systems > Seattle Commercial Region > (425) 468-0959 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cisco.com/ > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of > William E Gragido > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:36 PM > To: derek lewinson > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after > receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the > incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. > > R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, > last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong > I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at > times > ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate > M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only > blunt answers can be giving > M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning > and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers > E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care > to > answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) > > and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation > for > doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. > > And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! > > Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > derek lewinson > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > > To: William E Gragido > > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > > Next time, > > T-houghtful > > H-elpful > > I-nsipring > > N-ecessary > > K-ind > > > > before you type > > > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > William E Gragido > > Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 > > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy > a > > p
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Chris you missed this one big time. The issue was(is) that the guy said now that he bought a product, can someone help him. AFTER HE BOUGHT A PRODUCT HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT. Will's question was didn't he do any kind of research or testing before buying it? -Original Message- From: Chris Lemagie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:14 PM To: William E Gragido; derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Got a question for ya Will. Have you ever had to diagnose network performance or response time problems??? How about poor application performance on your network??? If so, what tools do you use??? I personally believe that any questions regarding the use of Network Associates Sniffer products are valid in this or any study group pertaining to network theory, design or certifications. Sniffer products are some of the most widely used and trusted network troubleshooting tools available today. Just ask any experienced Network/Systems Engineer. All Cisco SE types that I work with have used these tools quite frequently. I would strongly suggest taking a moment to think about how a study group members question relates to networking in general before you flame them in the future. Remember, network theory and troubleshooting are a BIG part of most Cisco Certification exams... Of course, this is just my personal opinion and does not reflect the opinion of Cisco Systems, Inc. I would guess that I'm not alone in my opinion however. Please feel free to e-mail or call if you have any questions... Thanks for your valuable time... Chris Lemagie Systems Engineer Cisco Systems Seattle Commercial Region (425) 468-0959 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cisco.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:36 PM To: derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only blunt answers can be giving M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > derek lewinson > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > To: William E Gragido > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > Next time, > T-houghtful > H-elpful > I-nsipring > N-ecessary > K-ind > > before you type > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > William E Gragido > Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 >
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
-Original Message- From:Chris Lemagie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:43:28 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I originally thought the same thing, however I read the entire e-mail/reply chain and in that reply chain, Will stated that his first response was due to the fact that the original question was not a "Cisco" question. Rest at ease, I do not intend to jump into the middle of any more arguments. You are correct "protocol.guru" in stating that I have better things to do with my time. So do some others. Se Ya !!! Chris Lemagie Systems Engineer Cisco Systems Seattle Commercial Region (425) 468-0959 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cisco.com/ -Original Message- From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:52 AM To: Chris Lemagie; William E Gragido; derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Chris you missed this one big time. The issue was(is) that the guy said now that he bought a product, can someone help him. AFTER HE BOUGHT A PRODUCT HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT. Will's question was didn't he do any kind of research or testing before buying it? -Original Message- From: Chris Lemagie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:14 PM To: William E Gragido; derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Got a question for ya Will. Have you ever had to diagnose network performance or response time problems??? How about poor application performance on your network??? If so, what tools do you use??? I personally believe that any questions regarding the use of Network Associates Sniffer products are valid in this or any study group pertaining to network theory, design or certifications. Sniffer products are some of the most widely used and trusted network troubleshooting tools available today. Just ask any experienced Network/Systems Engineer. All Cisco SE types that I work with have used these tools quite frequently. I would strongly suggest taking a moment to think about how a study group members question relates to networking in general before you flame them in the future. Remember, network theory and troubleshooting are a BIG part of most Cisco Certification exams... Of course, this is just my personal opinion and does not reflect the opinion of Cisco Systems, Inc. I would guess that I'm not alone in my opinion however. Please feel free to e-mail or call if you have any questions... Thanks for your valuable time... Chris Lemagie Systems Engineer Cisco Systems Seattle Commercial Region (425) 468-0959 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cisco.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:36 PM To: derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject:RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only blunt answers can be giving M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > derek lewinson > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > To: William E Gragido > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > Next time, > T-houghtful > H-elpful > I-nsipring > N-ecessary > K-ind > > before you type > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Got a question for ya Will. Have you ever had to diagnose network performance or response time problems??? How about poor application performance on your network??? If so, what tools do you use??? I personally believe that any questions regarding the use of Network Associates Sniffer products are valid in this or any study group pertaining to network theory, design or certifications. Sniffer products are some of the most widely used and trusted network troubleshooting tools available today. Just ask any experienced Network/Systems Engineer. All Cisco SE types that I work with have used these tools quite frequently. I would strongly suggest taking a moment to think about how a study group members question relates to networking in general before you flame them in the future. Remember, network theory and troubleshooting are a BIG part of most Cisco Certification exams... Of course, this is just my personal opinion and does not reflect the opinion of Cisco Systems, Inc. I would guess that I'm not alone in my opinion however. Please feel free to e-mail or call if you have any questions... Thanks for your valuable time... Chris Lemagie Systems Engineer Cisco Systems Seattle Commercial Region (425) 468-0959 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cisco.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:36 PM To: derek lewinson Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only blunt answers can be giving M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > derek lewinson > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > To: William E Gragido > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > Next time, > T-houghtful > H-elpful > I-nsipring > N-ecessary > K-ind > > before you type > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > William E Gragido > Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5..cool it. here is the stuff
Hey, this looks like kids fighting over nothing. Dzilo, and all those who want a sniffer manual ( FREE ) , send me a direct post. I have a copy lying on my table. I spend almost 2 hours of my day on Etherpeek and sniffer. Anyway, I noticed people exercising thier English, I may not have otherwise bothered. -Original Message- From:William E Gragido [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:35:35 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only blunt answers can be giving M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > derek lewinson > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > To: William E Gragido > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > Next time, > T-houghtful > H-elpful > I-nsipring > N-ecessary > K-ind > > before you type > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > William E Gragido > Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications center. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Amen -Original Message- From: derek lewinson To: William E Gragido Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Sent: 10/20/00 8:41 PM Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. Next time, T-houghtful H-elpful I-nsipring N-ecessary K-ind before you type and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Charles Nunie > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, > Dzilo > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you? Apparently after receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the incorrigable need to press on. Well heres one for you to chew on. R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about, last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times ones toes get stepped on. Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity. At times, only blunt answers can be giving M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers E-nd. No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-) and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response. And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt! Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > derek lewinson > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM > To: William E Gragido > Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. > "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, > rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. > Next time, > T-houghtful > H-elpful > I-nsipring > N-ecessary > K-ind > > before you type > > and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! > > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > William E Gragido > Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful. "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email, rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response. Next time, T-houghtful H-elpful I-nsipring N-ecessary K-ind before you type and yes, I did mean to be this blunt! Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37 To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Charles Nunie > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, > Dzilo > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
I think you guys should just leave it, You are both filling this list up with crap Some of us do not have time to read all the emails. When I see the sniffer heading, I look further to find all it is, is a boring commentry between two people with way to much time on there hands James -Original Message- From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:31 PM To: Winchester, Derek S.; Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 My Turn Derek, I believe that this my comment was totally valid, and whether or not you were offended by it is not my concern and heres why: 1) I get sick of having to delete emails that have NO relevance to Cisco Technologies from those that I receive from Mr.Bourghese's list 2) I feel that without doing even a miniscual amount of research on a product prior to purchase is fool hardy and potentially a head ache waiting to happen. 3) Look at the way in which the original question was worded "I bought this Product and it looks great, does anyone have any clue as to where I can find resources on how to use it and understand more thoroughly" This was a liberal paraphrase of the original but it gets the point accross, Derek see item No.2 above :-) 4) You took this public by and large furhtering the pettiness of my original comment and thus fueling the fire. Volley, Your serve Will > -Original Message- > From: Winchester, Derek S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:21 PM > To: 'William E Gragido'; Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > This kind of comment should be kept to one's self. Charles I hope the > previous replies helped you out in your quest to knowing how to > use Sniffer > Pro. > > William: I purchase tools all the time that I do not know how to > use because > : > > A. Might make my job a little easier > B. 80% of job consists of exploring new > options > C. If its in the budget(department) why not > expand your resources > > > Derek S. Winchester > Sr. WAN Engineer(CCNP) > Data Communications > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 410-953-4887 > Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > -Original Message- > From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:37 PM > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Uh...whereas I don't necessarily disagree 100% with your reasons, I can't imagine why anyone would want to just throw the money out and hope what they get in return is worth the expense. Perhaps it's just me but before I buy something, I at least try to discover it's pros and cons so I can get a little better picture BEFORE parting with the dough. For example, before I purchased my routers, switch and hub, I at least messed about on CCO and a few websites. Hell, it makes NO SENSE WHAT-SO-EVER now that I think about it - now appears as just laziness! Ok, so now I'm saying I agree with you 1%. Your reasoning (and the original email's too) are sort of like the UNSUBSCRIBE requests that the lazy fools send out ever so often. HOW DID THEY GET ON HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHY CAN'T THE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED AT THE END OF EVERY - EVERY - EMAIL? It's all because they're lazy. WILL: SET Rob -Original Message- From: Winchester, Derek S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:21 PM To: 'William E Gragido'; Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 This kind of comment should be kept to one's self. Charles I hope the previous replies helped you out in your quest to knowing how to use Sniffer Pro. William: I purchase tools all the time that I do not know how to use because : A. Might make my job a little easier B. 80% of job consists of exploring new options C. If its in the budget(department) why not expand your resources Derek S. Winchester Sr. WAN Engineer(CCNP) Data Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:37 PM To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Charles Nunie > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, > Dzilo > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
My Turn Derek, I believe that this my comment was totally valid, and whether or not you were offended by it is not my concern and heres why: 1) I get sick of having to delete emails that have NO relevance to Cisco Technologies from those that I receive from Mr.Bourghese's list 2) I feel that without doing even a miniscual amount of research on a product prior to purchase is fool hardy and potentially a head ache waiting to happen. 3) Look at the way in which the original question was worded "I bought this Product and it looks great, does anyone have any clue as to where I can find resources on how to use it and understand more thoroughly" This was a liberal paraphrase of the original but it gets the point accross, Derek see item No.2 above :-) 4) You took this public by and large furhtering the pettiness of my original comment and thus fueling the fire. Volley, Your serve Will > -Original Message- > From: Winchester, Derek S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:21 PM > To: 'William E Gragido'; Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > This kind of comment should be kept to one's self. Charles I hope the > previous replies helped you out in your quest to knowing how to > use Sniffer > Pro. > > William: I purchase tools all the time that I do not know how to > use because > : > > A. Might make my job a little easier > B. 80% of job consists of exploring new > options > C. If its in the budget(department) why not > expand your resources > > > Derek S. Winchester > Sr. WAN Engineer(CCNP) > Data Communications > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 410-953-4887 > Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > -Original Message- > From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:37 PM > To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a > product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to > what it does? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Charles Nunie > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > > URL where I can > > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > > > Regards, > > Dzilo > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
This kind of comment should be kept to one's self. Charles I hope the previous replies helped you out in your quest to knowing how to use Sniffer Pro. William: I purchase tools all the time that I do not know how to use because : A. Might make my job a little easier B. 80% of job consists of exploring new options C. If its in the budget(department) why not expand your resources Derek S. Winchester Sr. WAN Engineer(CCNP) Data Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:37 PM To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Charles Nunie > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, > Dzilo > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
"A kinder and gentler nation." I've used Sniffers since the (long lamented) Network General days. Support before, during and after sales was one of N.G.'s best traits. As far as useage is concerned, try and get some training. N.G. had very good training, at one time, in geographically pleasing locations. Sales types will say,"It tells you the answer in plain English!" While the expert systems analysis does help get you into the troubleshooting ball park, it is a well know fact that computer people don't speak "plain English". This is a *must have* tool, but it does require some dedication to master. Best, G. -Original Message- From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:37 AM To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5 I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, "There's a little fruitcake in all of us." J. Buffet gfh _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to what it does? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Charles Nunie > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 > > > Hi everyone, > > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a > URL where I can > info on the best way to understand and use it? > > Regards, > Dzilo > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
Dzilo, Sniffer.com has documentation for the software and the different protocols. Networkuptime has an area where they provide explanations of how and why the software does what it does. Packet-level has excellent troubleshooting and packet analysis theory. http://www.networkuptime.com/ http://www.sniffer.com/ http://www.packet-level.com Remember, to use it properly, you not only have to learn to use the tool, but also the theory behind it. Enjoy your new toy! Brad Stanfield Network/Integration Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Norfolk Naval Shipyard Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 1-800-626-6622 -Original Message- From: Charles Nunie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5 Hi everyone, I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a URL where I can info on the best way to understand and use it? Regards, Dzilo Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sniffer Pro 3.5
Hi everyone, I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great. Can I have a URL where I can info on the best way to understand and use it? Regards, Dzilo Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]