[CMLHope] eye bleeds

2013-04-30 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Good to hear from Jim and Peg.  I recently had the same thing happen  to 
me.  I was in my onc's office and my daughter told me my eye was really  red.  
I actually had an eye bleed in the Onc's office.  He said he  couldn't say 
it was from the Sprycel and called in the pharmacist and she said  the same 
thing.  Well, so much for their knowledge about Sprycel.  I  was still 
curious and looked it up right when I got home.  There it is,  right on the 
Sprycel site.  This medicine can cause eye bleeds.
We must do our own research.  I had one more episode of eye bleed and  then 
they went away.
Hang in there and fight!  We are Warriors every one of us.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 4/29/2013 1:15:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
drodegh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Hi Marcie, I have been a CML patient since 19997, started on  Interferon 
then got on Gleevec as soon as it was approved here in  the states. After 
about one year they couldn't find any trace of the  cancer, what a wonderful 
gift God had given me. At first I didn't notice  any different side effects 
than I'd had on interferon the tingling in my  feet and numbness was still 
there as were the leg cramps at night. I was  still working at that time and 
then the cramps came more often and were  more severe, they also lasted longer 
than before some times for 20  minutes and longer. Then I had my first eye 
bleed, I worked as a  Conductor on a commuter train in Chicago and a 
passenger asked what  happened to your eye. I had no clue what he was talking 
about 
so he said  that the white part of my eye was completely red. Now that was 
great  news early in the morning! I was amazed that I never felt it, had no  
idea what I looked like because it wasn't that way before I left the  house. 
Now my hands, back, even the sides of my neck and legs cramp. But  as we 
warriors say life goes on and it's still great to be  here! 
 
We must never give in to this disease we are fighters and the  war goes on. 
I look at all the advancements that have been made since  being DXed and am 
so happy for those having been made some day there  will be the advancement 
we all pray for and no one else will have to  suffer with this any more!
 
18s to all you fellow warriors as well as my prayers
Jim Rodeghier  

--- On  Sun, 4/28/13, margoo...@aol.com   wrote:



From:  margoo...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [CMLHope]  AND THEN IT'S WINTER.
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday,  April 28, 2013, 8:33 AM


Dearest  Marty:
 
So beautifully written and I totally relate in many ways.   In my head, I'm 
still pretty young, my 30s, except for the fact that  years on Gleevec have 
impacted my short term memory.  I will turn  61 on May 7th and most days my 
body feels like I am 161.  I do  work full time in a high stress job 
because it is in politics.   You can only imagine.  I also wrote Maryland's 
landmark bullying  prevention bill and I serve as the Maryland Director of 
Bully 
Police  USA, a national advocacy group that monitors state and federal anti  
bullying laws.  As if all of that isn't enough, I am a lieutenant  in the 
Maryland Defense Force, backup to the Maryland National  Guard.  We are not 
armed but a group of volunteers who provide  services such as free medical, 
dental and legal care to members of the  MNG and we kick in to help when there 
are storms and such with  providing food, transportation, etc. to those who 
are in need, in  Maryland and other states (such as when Katrina hit).
 
When I was diagnosed, I decided that CML was not a death sentence  but a 
chance to live my life and make every day count.  It has  been at times a very 
tough road, as I had a mini stroke in April of  2010.  It left no lasting 
imprint but it was very scary.  My  husband had a widow maker heart attack 
but he is a walking  miracle.  My mom passed away and April 3rd was the first  
anniversary.  She spent 6 1/2 years in and out of hospitals and  nursing 
homes.  My 64 year old brother in law died suddenly in  July and one month ago 
my 92 year old dad had a stroke.  He has  made no progress, in fact he is 
worse, and is no in permanent long  term nursing care.
 
Despite all of this, life is a wonderful thing.  We also see  people and 
wonder "do we look like that?"  But it is so joyful to  wake up every day and 
know that my husband, the kindest and most  wonderful man I know, has woken 
up and that the other important people  in my life have as well.  I feel so 
blessed by the many great  things in my life and one of them is that I am on 
this site with such  incredible people like you.
 
I pray for all of us and as promised, your note will go in the  Wall when 
we go to Israel (God willing) on May 21st.  You should  be named a national 
treasure!
 
18s to you.
 
Marcie


-Original  Message-
From: Marty Gartenberg 
To:  CMLHope 
Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013  7:46 am
Subject: [CMLHope] AND THEN IT'S WINTER.


MY LIFE HAS BEEN AN ADVENTURE OF SORTS, AND THEN I

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds

2013-03-31 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Thank you Susan, mine is still pretty red; wish I could go off the  meds.  
It seems my body is rebelling against anymore Sprycel.  I feel  like I'm in 
a fog and my eye is hurting.
My mother and grandmother had strokes at my age.
Thanks again,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2013 10:37:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rszim0...@aol.com writes:

Thank you Marcie for reminding me to respond.  I also spoke with Dr. Druker 
both in person and through e-mails.  He is very helpful to all of us if we 
contact him.  He assured me  of just what Marcie said, that it is not 
dangerous to have eye bleeds.  Of course they are caused by gleevec no matter 
what 
the doctors say.  And yes they take about 5 or 6 days to disappear.  I am 
still a  walking miracle with being off gleevec for six years and still in 
cellular  remission.  I am doing this against Dr's orders because I had two 
brain  bleeds and two years after being off gleevec had a full-blown stroke at 
age  58.  I do know my family's medical history has a tendency for this  
hematoma in the brain.  It is what caused my father's death.  I am  enjoying 
every day as a gift.

Happy Resurrection Day to all!  and  18's,

Susan




-Original  Message-
From: Marcie Goodman 
To: cmlhope  
Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 5:02  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds


Hi Jeanie:


I totally agree that the eye doctors and even the best hematologists and  
oncologists don't get the eye bleeds. I just had my 4 year anniversary of  
diagnosis and starting gleevec. I've had numerous eye bleeds, had them checked 
 out with the best opthamologist at Johns Hopkins here in Baltimore. They 
tell  me it is not the gleevec. Of course, it is. I emailed Dr. Druker last 
year  because I was concerned about the bleeds and also the possibility of a 
brain  bleed, as I think Susan on this site has unfortunately experienced. 
Dr. Druker  told me that eye bleeds are a side effect some patients 
experience but they  are not dangerous. I was greatly relieved to hear that and 
touched that he  responded to me, a total stranger, immediately. 


When I have a bleed, almost always in my left eye, I use warm compresses  
and if it is a particularly bad hemorrhage, I use an eye patch if I am at 
work  or going out. The pirate look - better than people feeling squeamish 
because  your eye looks disgusting. Generally these clear up quickly although 
it 
can  take up to 5 or 6 days for all traces to disappear. 


I've had a couple of eye bleeds that hurt and one or two where around my  
eye on the outside it bruised, a black eye. It was explained to me that  
because the vessels burst inside there was a bruise on the outside, much as  
you 
would have if you bang your hand or leg or anything and  bruise. 


Hope this is helpful. Hang in there and feel better. God bless and best  
wishes for a lovely holiday. 


Marcie

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:01 PM, _ICANDOALLTTC@aol.com_ 
(mailto:icandoall...@aol.com)   wrote:




Hello everyone, My eye is still red and hurts a little.  I have  been 
applying cold compresses.  The problem is an eye doctor wouldn't  understand 
the 
meds I am taking and what they do, however I will go soon if  it doesn't 
clear up.
Anyone with advice on Eye bleeds
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 3/24/2013 7:29:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_icandoallttc@aol.com_ (mailto:icandoall...@aol.com)  writes:

Symptoms brain bleed
Nausea headache blurred vision bad balance
Numb tingling and others
Make sure to get your blood checked often 
As your counts can drop fast
Jeanie

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:27 PM, _patrickemailguard-goog@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:patrickemailguard-g...@yahoo.com)   wrote:



   Penny, if something was making me wonder if I was  having a brain bleed 
I would be on my way to the ER.  
Patrick

--- On Sat, 3/23/13, Penny <_Boogie_Woogie@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:boogie_woo...@yahoo.com) >  wrote:


From:  Penny <_Boogie_Woogie@yahoo.com_ (mailto:boogie_woo...@yahoo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
To: _cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) 
Date:  Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:53 PM


Hi,
 
How do you know if you have had a brain bleed.  I just  started on Sprycel 
2 weeks ago...  Penny

On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:22:54 PM UTC-6,  rszi...@_aol.com_ 
(http://aol.com/)  wrote:


This is great news about Tasigna!  I  spoke yesterday to a doctor in 
charge of a clinical trial.  He advised me with my history of bleeding in the 
brain  to NEVER take sprycel, said it is well known that it causes  
bleeding.  All my other doctors have been wanting me to  go on it!  He advised 
tasigna only, as it is the only one  that does not have the slight side effect 
for those who are  prone to have bleeding.  Very very important news for me,  
as I've not been on anything for four and a half years.  Gleevec caused 
bleeding.  I am going soon for  

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds

2013-03-30 Thread Susan Zimmerman
Thank you Marcie for reminding me to respond.  I also spoke with Dr. Druker 
both in person and through e-mails.  He is very helpful to all of us if we 
contact him.  He assured me of just what Marcie said, that it is not dangerous 
to have eye bleeds.  Of course they are caused by gleevec no matter what the 
doctors say.  And yes they take about 5 or 6 days to disappear.  I am still a 
walking miracle with being off gleevec for six years and still in cellular 
remission.  I am doing this against Dr's orders because I had two brain bleeds 
and two years after being off gleevec had a full-blown stroke at age 58.  I do 
know my family's medical history has a tendency for this hematoma in the brain. 
 It is what caused my father's death.  I am enjoying every day as a gift.  


Happy Resurrection Day to all!  and 18's,


Susan




-Original Message-
From: Marcie Goodman 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds


Hi Jeanie:


I totally agree that the eye doctors and even the best hematologists and 
oncologists don't get the eye bleeds. I just had my 4 year anniversary of 
diagnosis and starting gleevec. I've had numerous eye bleeds, had them checked 
out with the best opthamologist at Johns Hopkins here in Baltimore. They tell 
me it is not the gleevec. Of course, it is. I emailed Dr. Druker last year 
because I was concerned about the bleeds and also the possibility of a brain 
bleed, as I think Susan on this site has unfortunately experienced. Dr. Druker 
told me that eye bleeds are a side effect some patients experience but they are 
not dangerous. I was greatly relieved to hear that and touched that he 
responded to me, a total stranger, immediately. 


When I have a bleed, almost always in my left eye, I use warm compresses and if 
it is a particularly bad hemorrhage, I use an eye patch if I am at work or 
going out. The pirate look - better than people feeling squeamish because your 
eye looks disgusting. Generally these clear up quickly although it can take up 
to 5 or 6 days for all traces to disappear. 


I've had a couple of eye bleeds that hurt and one or two where around my eye on 
the outside it bruised, a black eye. It was explained to me that because the 
vessels burst inside there was a bruise on the outside, much as you would have 
if you bang your hand or leg or anything and bruise. 


Hope this is helpful. Hang in there and feel better. God bless and best wishes 
for a lovely holiday. 


Marcie

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:01 PM, icandoall...@aol.com wrote:



Hello everyone, My eye is still red and hurts a little.  I have been applying 
cold compresses.  The problem is an eye doctor wouldn't understand the meds I 
am taking and what they do, however I will go soon if it doesn't clear up.
Anyone with advice on Eye bleeds
Jeanie<3
 

In a message dated 3/24/2013 7:29:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
icandoall...@aol.com writes:
  
Symptoms brain bleed
  
Nausea headache blurred vision bad balance
  
Numb tingling and others
  
Make sure to get your blood checked often 
  
As your counts can drop fast
  
Jeanie

Sent from my iPhone
  

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:27 PM, patrickemailguard-g...@yahoo.com   wrote:


  


  
  

Penny, if something was making me wonder if I was   having a brain 
bleed I would be on my way to the ER.   
Patrick

--- On Sat, 3/23/13, Pennywrote:
  

From: Penny 
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:53 PM



Hi,

 

How do you know if you have had a brain bleed.  I just started on 
Sprycel 2 weeks ago...  Penny


On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:22:54 PM UTC-6, rszi...@aol.com wrote:


This is great news about Tasigna!  I spoke   yesterday to a 
doctor in charge of a clinical trial.  He   advised me with my 
history of bleeding in the brain to NEVER take   sprycel, said it 
is well known that it causes bleeding.  All   my other doctors have 
been wanting me to go on it!  He   advised tasigna only, as it is 
the only one that does not have the   slight side effect for those 
who are prone to have bleeding.Very very important news for me, 
as I've not been on   anything for four and a half years.  Gleevec 
caused bleeding.I am going soon for another bcr/abl test, it's 
been a year.I am so thankful I'm still in cellular remission.  
This   doctor yesterday said don't wait until you come out of 
remission   because you could go into blast phase.  Pray that 
things come   together for me financially to do this.  By the way, 
what   si

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds

2013-03-30 Thread Marcie Goodman
Hi Jeanie:

I totally agree that the eye doctors and even the best hematologists and 
oncologists don't get the eye bleeds. I just had my 4 year anniversary of 
diagnosis and starting gleevec. I've had numerous eye bleeds, had them checked 
out with the best opthamologist at Johns Hopkins here in Baltimore. They tell 
me it is not the gleevec. Of course, it is. I emailed Dr. Druker last year 
because I was concerned about the bleeds and also the possibility of a brain 
bleed, as I think Susan on this site has unfortunately experienced. Dr. Druker 
told me that eye bleeds are a side effect some patients experience but they are 
not dangerous. I was greatly relieved to hear that and touched that he 
responded to me, a total stranger, immediately. 

When I have a bleed, almost always in my left eye, I use warm compresses and if 
it is a particularly bad hemorrhage, I use an eye patch if I am at work or 
going out. The pirate look - better than people feeling squeamish because your 
eye looks disgusting. Generally these clear up quickly although it can take up 
to 5 or 6 days for all traces to disappear. 

I've had a couple of eye bleeds that hurt and one or two where around my eye on 
the outside it bruised, a black eye. It was explained to me that because the 
vessels burst inside there was a bruise on the outside, much as you would have 
if you bang your hand or leg or anything and bruise. 

Hope this is helpful. Hang in there and feel better. God bless and best wishes 
for a lovely holiday. 

Marcie

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:01 PM, icandoall...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello everyone, My eye is still red and hurts a little.  I have been applying 
> cold compresses.  The problem is an eye doctor wouldn't understand the meds I 
> am taking and what they do, however I will go soon if it doesn't  clear up.
> Anyone with advice on Eye bleeds
> Jeanie<3
>  
> In a message dated 3/24/2013 7:29:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> icandoall...@aol.com writes:
> Symptoms brain bleed
> Nausea headache blurred vision bad balance
> Numb tingling and others
> Make sure to get your blood checked often 
> As your counts can drop fast
> Jeanie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:27 PM, patrickemailguard-g...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Penny, if something was making me wonder if I was having a brain bleed I 
>> would be on my way to the ER.
>> Patrick
>> 
>> --- On Sat, 3/23/13, Penny  wrote:
>> 
>> From: Penny 
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
>> To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:53 PM
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> How do you know if you have had a brain bleed.  I just started on Sprycel 2 
>> weeks ago...  Penny
>> 
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:22:54 PM UTC-6, rszi...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> This is great news about Tasigna!  I spoke yesterday to a doctor in 
>> charge of a clinical trial.  He advised me with my history of bleeding in 
>> the brain to NEVER take sprycel, said it is well known that it causes 
>> bleeding.  All my other doctors have been wanting me to go on it!  He 
>> advised tasigna only, as it is the only one that does not have the slight 
>> side effect for those who are prone to have bleeding.  Very very important 
>> news for me, as I've not been on anything for four and a half years.  
>> Gleevec caused bleeding.  I am going soon for another bcr/abl test, it's 
>> been a year.  I am so thankful I'm still in cellular remission.  This doctor 
>> yesterday said don't wait until you come out of remission because you could 
>> go into blast phase.  Pray that things come together for me financially to 
>> do this.  By the way, what side effects come with tasigna???
>> 
>> 18's,
>> 
>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Suzan Collins 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 9:39 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
>> 
>> Hi I don't post much. I was dxed in June 2004. I had never reached all zeros 
>> before and it always stayed around .004.  I  had so much trouble with severe 
>> side effects from gleevec and sprycel and sprycel also gave me skin ulcers.  
>> So he put me on tasigna .  I have been on tasigna for nearly 2 years and 
>> from the beginning I continued to have trouble with bad side effects two 
>> months later. So my doctor decided to put me on 200 mgs once every other 
>> day. The side effects declined immensely and my last fish test was all zeros 
>> so even though it is only 200 mgs every other day tasigna has kept my CML 
>> under control. So good luck.  I hope that you can get they same results that 
>> I have.
>> Suzan
>> 
>> From: kellyelise 
>> To: CMLHope 
>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 8:24 PM
>> Subject: [CMLHope] Tasigna
>> 
>> Marty...tweet, tweet? Ha ha ha!! You are so funny!!
>> 
>> AnywayMy PA from MDAnderson in compliance with Dr. Cortes have
>> allowed me to take Tasigna @ 200mg daily. It is less that the
>> recommended dose but they are hoping to lessen side effects but at the
>> sa

[CMLHope] eye bleeds

2013-03-30 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Hello everyone, My eye is still red and hurts a little.  I have been  
applying cold compresses.  The problem is an eye doctor wouldn't understand  
the 
meds I am taking and what they do, however I will go soon if it doesn't  
clear up.
Anyone with advice on Eye bleeds
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 3/24/2013 7:29:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
icandoall...@aol.com writes:

Symptoms brain bleed
Nausea headache blurred vision bad balance
Numb tingling and others
Make sure to get your blood checked often 
As your counts can drop fast
Jeanie

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:27 PM, _patrickemailguard-goog@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:patrickemailguard-g...@yahoo.com)   wrote:



   Penny, if something was making me wonder if I was  having a brain bleed 
I would be on my way to the ER.  
Patrick

--- On Sat, 3/23/13, Penny <_Boogie_Woogie@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:boogie_woo...@yahoo.com) >  wrote:


From:  Penny <_Boogie_Woogie@yahoo.com_ (mailto:boogie_woo...@yahoo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna
To: _cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) 
Date:  Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:53 PM


Hi,
 
How do you know if you have had a brain bleed.  I just  started on Sprycel 
2 weeks ago...  Penny

On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:22:54 PM UTC-6, rszi...@_aol.com_ 
(http://aol.com/)   wrote:


This is great news about Tasigna!  I spoke  yesterday to a doctor in 
charge of a clinical trial.  He  advised me with my history of bleeding in the 
brain to NEVER take  sprycel, said it is well known that it causes 
bleeding.  All  my other doctors have been wanting me to go on it!  He  advised 
tasigna only, as it is the only one that does not have the  slight side effect 
for those who are prone to have bleeding.  Very very important news for me, 
as I've not been on  anything for four and a half years.  Gleevec caused 
bleeding.  I am going soon for another bcr/abl test, it's been a year.  I am so 
thankful I'm still in cellular remission.  This  doctor yesterday said don't 
wait until you come out of remission  because you could go into blast 
phase.  Pray that things come  together for me financially to do this.  By the 
way, what  side effects come with tasigna???  


18's,

Susan F. Zimmerman




-Original  Message-
From: Suzan Collins 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Mon, Oct 31,  2011 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna


 
Hi I don't post much. I was dxed in  June 2004. I had never reached all 
zeros before and it always  stayed around .004.  I  had so much trouble with  
severe side effects from gleevec and sprycel and  sprycel also gave me skin 
ulcers.  So he put me  on tasigna .  I have been on  tasigna for nearly 2 
years and from the  beginning I continued to have trouble with bad side  
effects two months later. So my doctor  decided to put me on 200  mgs once 
every 
other day. The side effects declined  immensely and my last fish test was  
all zeros so even though it is only 200  mgs every other day tasigna has  kept 
my CML under control. So good luck.  I  hope that you can get they same 
results that I have.
Suzan



 

From: kellyelise 
To: CMLHope 
Sent: Monday, October 31,  2011 8:24 PM
Subject: [CMLHope]  Tasigna

Marty...tweet, tweet? Ha ha ha!! You are so  funny!!

AnywayMy PA from MDAnderson in compliance with  Dr. Cortes have
allowed me to take Tasigna @ 200mg daily. It is  less that the
recommended dose but they are hoping to lessen  side effects but at the
same time put the CML back under  control. I "think" she said my PCR
was 0.333% (does that make  sense?). I have never come out of remission
in 4 years until  now (boo!). She also said I am showing no evidence of
the  Philadelphia chromosome. I have no idea what this all means  since
I cannot retain anything, but, I am hoping it is good  news.

Any advice, knowledge, etc., would be greatly  appreciated. I am
currently in the market for a heme/onc and  will be looking 50 miles to
the West (Cleveland, OH) or 50  miles to the East (Erie, PA). I asked
my NP at CCF for some  guidance and hopefully she can provide some.

18s to  everyone!
Kelly

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-26 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Yah Patrick!  Glad you are doing so well.  Tasigna  didn't work 
for me.  I had to go on sprycel.  It's working good.   It seems these meds 
dry out our skin and eyes.  Use a some good eye drops  to keep the eyes 
moist.  Cool water helps a lot.  A worry would be if  the cells are bleeding, 
might they be bleeding in other areas?  Yes check  with your doctor for sure.
Jeanie<3
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2013 3:15:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
patrickemailguard-g...@yahoo.com writes:

As other CMLer's have pointed out, yes Gleevec causes eye  bleeds. You do 
need to make your doctor aware that you are having them.  And most are no big 
deal and go away on their own. But they can be  severe enough to stop 
Gleevec and possibly require other medical  intervention.   
It just depends on how bad yours are. If you're in doubt insist on  seeing 
your doctor right away. If they are like the eye bleeds most of  us have had 
just let them know about the event and likely you will just  follow up at 
your your next appointment.   
Mine were very mild compared to most people's. But that's still one  more 
thing I don't miss about Gleevec. (I'm a month away from 2 years on  Tasigna 
and a year of PCRU.)
If your eyes itch, rubbing is not an option. I got relief with a  cold 
washcloth gently dabbed on closed eyes.
Patrick

--- On Wed, 1/23/13, Dorisbmt   wrote:


From:  Dorisbmt 
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye  bleeds.
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January  23, 2013, 10:17 AM



I have had eye bleeds but I don't know if gleevec has  anything to do with 
it.  I've been on gleevec since  2002.

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-25 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Wow! Millie, that is cold.  It has been cold here also for  Florida.  I am 
running my heater right now.  The sun is out but it's  still cold at least 
for me.
Going to take my daily walk, and eat an orange.  I call it my  D&C.  hehe
Glad your home health care of over, but when you need it you need it.
Thank the Lord for all those wonderful programs we have in place for  us.
Yes, I'm ready for summer.  Don't like the cold.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
 
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Hi  MartyGood to see you on line.  I am hoping  you are okay these  
days.
I just came  off of two months of Home Care, but really need to work on 
building my  strength again.  I will get there.  I think that every day I get a 
 bit back.  I just don't ever give  up, but then that's me.  I  thank God 
for each day I have.  
 
It is really  cold in PA. It has been below zero at night and not that warm 
during the  dayaround 15 to 20.  I think we'll be getting a little snow 
tomorrow,  but that means it will warm  up some.  I'm ready for  Spring.
Blessing to  you and yours,
Millie
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-24 Thread C.M. Houtz
Hi MartyGood to see you on line.  I am hoping  you are okay these days.
I just came off of two months of Home Care, but really need to work on building 
my strength again.  I will get there.  I think that every day I get a bit back. 
 I just don't ever give  up, but then that's me.  I thank God for each day I 
have.  

It is really cold in PA. It has been below zero at night and not that warm 
during the dayaround 15 to 20.  I think we'll be getting a little snow 
tomorrow, but that means it will warm  up some.  I'm ready for Spring.
Blessing to you and yours,
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-24 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Doris-bmt,

According to web-md a rare side effect of Gleevec is Retinal Hemorrhage as
well as Eye Bleeds.

Although I have never been on it, I had a bone marrow transplant almost 23
years ago, I have heard of this happening many times with people taking
Gleevec.

It usually subsides in a short time with no permement eye damage.

What you have here is a trade off. You may have some side effects but your
still alive to have these side effects. As long as your getting out of bed
every morning and doing what you do then your doing well. You being on
Gleevec for the past eleven years proves it.

If Gleevec were available when I had CML I would have opted for it rather
then having that bone marrow transplant. Not to say that there may be
certain people that will need a BMT because it all depends on their
circumstances.

Even so, I would have still liked to try it...

18's (symbol for life)

Marty

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> I have had eye bleeds but I don't know if gleevec has anything to do with
> it.  I've been on gleevec since 2002.
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-23 Thread patrickemailguard-goog
As other CMLer's have pointed out, yes Gleevec causes eye bleeds. You do need 
to make your doctor aware that you are having them. And most are no big deal 
and go away on their own. But they can be severe enough to stop Gleevec and 
possibly require other medical intervention. It just depends on how bad yours 
are. If you're in doubt insist on seeing your doctor right away. If they are 
like the eye bleeds most of us have had just let them know about the event and 
likely you will just follow up at your your next appointment. Mine were very 
mild compared to most people's. But that's still one more thing I don't miss 
about Gleevec. (I'm a month away from 2 years on Tasigna and a year of PCRU.)If 
your eyes itch, rubbing is not an option. I got relief with a cold washcloth 
gently dabbed on closed eyes.
Patrick
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Subject: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 10:17 AM


I have had eye bleeds but I don't know if gleevec has anything to do with it.  
I've been on gleevec since 2002.

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-23 Thread Jean
I had two eye bleeds while on gleevec. I had rubbed my eye because they were so 
dry. I had cramps in my fingers and legs also. I'm on sprycel now. No eye 
bleeds so far. The eye bleeds usually clear up on their own. Good luck. Jeanie

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> I had many eye bleeds while on Gleevec.  I think I've only had one minor one 
> since being put on Tasigna.  Each time I went to the eye doctor and all was 
> well.  I think it's something  you have to have checked, but probably it will 
> go away in a few days.  I noticed that I had more while in air conditioning, 
> but I do believe it's the dryness of the air that causes a lot of it.  I am  
> just guessing, but hope I've helped and that your eye bleed goes away. Millie
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-23 Thread margood18

 I have had numerous eye bleeds over the 4 years I've been on Gleevec.  Eye 
doctor has never found anything wrong.  It is a side effect of the medication 
but not an issue you need to worry about other than it doesn't look very 
pretty.  I use an eye patch if I have a bleed at work.  They usually go away 
within a day or so.

Marcie

 

 

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Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.


I had many eye bleeds while on Gleevec.  I think I've only had one minor one 
since being put on Tasigna.  Each time I went to the eye doctor and all was 
well.  I think it's something  you have to have checked, but probably it will 
go away in a few days.  I noticed that I had more while in air conditioning, 
but I do believe it's the dryness of the air that causes a lot of it.  I am 
just guessing, but hope I've helped and that your eye bleed goes away. Millie

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-23 Thread C.M. Houtz
I had many eye bleeds while on Gleevec.  I think I've only had one minor one 
since being put on Tasigna.  Each time I went to the eye doctor and all was 
well.  I think it's something  you have to have checked, but probably it will 
go away in a few days.  I noticed that I had more while in air conditioning, 
but I do believe it's the dryness of the air that causes a lot of it.  I am 
just guessing, but hope I've helped and that your eye bleed goes away. Millie

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[CMLHope] Eye bleeds.

2013-01-23 Thread Dorisbmt

I have had eye bleeds but I don't know if gleevec has anything to do with it.  
I've been on gleevec since 2002.

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread Virginia Garner


April 19th was the 12th anniversary of the day I entered the STI 571 trial at 
UCLA, and over the 12 years I've been on treatment with Gleevec, I've had 
scores of eye bleeds. Sometimes they come in clusters where I'll have several 
right in a row, and sometimes I go for many months without one. Dr. Charles 
Sawyers, my doctor and the co-investigator in the STI 571 study at UCLA, Dr. 
Ron Paquette, my current doctor who was involved with the studies for Sprycel, 
and my opthalmologist all have said these eye bleeds are benign. Sawyers and 
Paquette are considered CML experts.These eye bleeds look horrible, but they go 
away in a few days. Some of mine are small in the corner of my eye, and some 
have covered the entire white of my eye in deep crimson. (I get a lot of 
sympathy for those!) Sometimes I can tell I'm getting one because I feel a 
little pin prick in my eye, and sometimes I can't feel a thing. 

None of these doctors have said anything about them being dangerous or leading 
to brain bleeds. This is just the information that I have.

Virginia from Claremont, CA




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Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds


I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be his 
newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't hurt 
but looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect? 
 
Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go 
check with your group". 
 
Marcie in Baltimore 
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread C.M. Houtz
While on Gleevec, I had lots of eye bleeds.two or three a year.  I went 
to my Eye Doctor, who always checked them out.  At that time I didn't have 
any idea that it was from the Gleevec.  Mine went away after a week or so, 
but they scared me at the time.  I never did tell my Oncologist, so think 
that would be a good place to start.  On Tasigna now and haven't had a 
problem with them.  Good luck to you.  Take care.Millie 


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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread maggy...@bellsouth.net
I am not a physician but I guess there are various degrees of eye bleeds.   The 
Whites of my eyes were completely beet red when I experienced this problem.  I 
was the first my hematologist had seen with this problem, in person.  I would 
call my hematologist if i were you.  






From: sherri swanson 
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:49:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

Okay, I have a silly question. Every once in awhile I wake up with my right or 
left eye in the corner all blood shot. It looks terrible and like I've been in 
a 
fight. It does not hurt or itch and usually goes away in a few days. Is this 
what you are calling  eye bleeds? 


Thanks 


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

I was on gleevec and had numerous eye bleeds until I actually did have a brain 
bleed.  This is nothing to sneeze at.  I was then removed from gleevec and have 
been off it for 4 years.  One year ago I had another stroke much worse, and am 
thankful to be here.  Going against doc's orders to try sprycel until I am out 
of cellular remission.  I pray that never happens.  Thankful for every day. 
 Take these eye bleeds seriously!  Discuss these two posts regarding brain 
bleeds with your doctors. 

>Blessings,
>Susan 
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: maggy...@bellsouth.net 
>To: cmlhope 
>Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:41 am
>Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
>
>I was on Gleevac when one day I woke up with bilateral eye bleeds.   I was 
>immediately removed from the Gleevac.   If Gleevac can make your eyes bleed 
>it's 
>potentially possible for it to make your brain bleeed - and to cause a 
>stroke.   
>I've not been on any medication for CML for over 1.5 years now.   This week I 
>may be restarted on a lower dose of Gleevac per my hematologist.  We will see.
>
>
>
>

From: judy 
>To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>Cc: jam_92...@yahoo.com
>Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 11:34:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
>
>Hello Marcie  they scared me also but I'we had about 6 or 8 or them and they 
>go 
>right away  no need to worry  some are bigger than others but I don't think 
>their a big deal except all the red.  Take care JUDY
>
>
>
>

From: Marcie 
>To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 12:38:35 AM
>Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
>I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be his 
>newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't hurt 
>but 
>looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?
>
>Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go 
>check 
>with your group".
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread sherri swanson
Okay, I have a silly question. Every once in awhile I wake up with my right
or left eye in the corner all blood shot. It looks terrible and like I've
been in a fight. It does not hurt or itch and usually goes away in a few
days. Is this what you are calling  eye bleeds?

Thanks

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

> I was on gleevec and had numerous eye bleeds until I actually did have a
> brain bleed.  This is nothing to sneeze at.  I was then removed from gleevec
> and have been off it for 4 years.  One year ago I had another stroke much
> worse, and am thankful to be here.  Going against doc's orders to try
> sprycel until I am out of cellular remission.  I pray that never happens.
>  Thankful for every day.  Take these eye bleeds seriously!  Discuss these
> two posts regarding brain bleeds with your doctors.
> Blessings,
> Susan
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: maggy...@bellsouth.net 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:41 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
>  I was on Gleevac when one day I woke up with bilateral eye bleeds.   I
> was immediately removed from the Gleevac.   If Gleevac can make your eyes
> bleed it's potentially possible for it to make your brain bleeed - and to
> cause a stroke.   I've not been on any medication for CML for over 1.5 years
> now.   This week I may be restarted on a lower dose of Gleevac per my
> hematologist.  We will see.
>
>  --
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> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* jam_92...@yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Sun, May 8, 2011 11:34:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
>  Hello Marcie  they scared me also but I'we had about 6 or 8 or them and
> they go right away  no need to worry  some are bigger than others but I
> don't think their a big deal except all the red.  Take care JUDY
>
>  ------
> *From:* Marcie 
> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, May 9, 2011 12:38:35 AM
> *Subject:* [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds
>
> I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be
> his newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't
> hurt but looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?
>
> Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go
> check with your group".
>
> Marcie in Baltimore
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread Susan Zimmerman
I was on gleevec and had numerous eye bleeds until I actually did have a brain 
bleed.  This is nothing to sneeze at.  I was then removed from gleevec and have 
been off it for 4 years.  One year ago I had another stroke much worse, and am 
thankful to be here.  Going against doc's orders to try sprycel until I am out 
of cellular remission.  I pray that never happens.  Thankful for every day.  
Take these eye bleeds seriously!  Discuss these two posts regarding brain 
bleeds with your doctors.
Blessings,
Susan





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From: maggy...@bellsouth.net 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:41 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds



I was on Gleevac when one day I woke up with bilateral eye bleeds.   I was 
immediately removed from the Gleevac.   If Gleevac can make your eyes bleed 
it's potentially possible for it to make your brain bleeed - and to cause a 
stroke.   I've not been on any medication for CML for over 1.5 years now.   
This week I may be restarted on a lower dose of Gleevac per my hematologist.  
We will see.




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Cc: jam_92...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 11:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds


Hello Marcie  they scared me also but I'we had about 6 or 8 or them and they go 
right away  no need to worry  some are bigger than others but I don't think 
their a big deal except all the red.  Take care JUDY




From: Marcie 
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Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 12:38:35 AM
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be his 
newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't hurt 
but looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?

Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go 
check with your group".

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread Myvety2k
Your blood vessels are very close to the skin in your eye, you  may have 
wiped your eye to hard with a towel after taking a shower or rubbed it  hard 
for some reason. It doesn't take much.
 
 
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread Myvety2k
Give it about 3 to 5 days and it will go away.   I  get them once in a 
while.
 
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-09 Thread maggy...@bellsouth.net
I was on Gleevac when one day I woke up with bilateral eye bleeds.   I was 
immediately removed from the Gleevac.   If Gleevac can make your eyes bleed 
it's 
potentially possible for it to make your brain bleeed - and to cause a 
stroke.   
I've not been on any medication for CML for over 1.5 years now.   This week I 
may be restarted on a lower dose of Gleevac per my hematologist.  We will see.





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Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 11:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds


Hello Marcie  they scared me also but I'we had about 6 or 8 or them and they go 
right away  no need to worry  some are bigger than others but I don't think 
their a big deal except all the red.  Take care JUDY





From: Marcie 
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Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 12:38:35 AM
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be his 
newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't hurt 
but 
looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?

Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go 
check 
with your group".

Marcie in Baltimore
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-08 Thread Michael Hedlund
When i was on Gleevec I had eye bleed a few times, it comes and stay for a 
few days.
When I change my medicin to Sprycel it´s stoped. My doctor sent me to an 
eye specialist the
first time, and he told me that eye bleed was releted to Gleevec. It´s look 
horrible sometimes but
it diden´t harm me. Keep on fighting. Best regards Michael Hedlund  
Sweden




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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 00:38:35 -0400
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds


I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can  
be his newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed.  
Doesn't hurt but looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?

Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then  
"go check with your group".

Marcie in Baltimore
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Re: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-08 Thread judy
Hello Marcie  they scared me also but I'we had about 6 or 8 or them and they go 
right away  no need to worry  some are bigger than others but I don't think 
their a big deal except all the red.  Take care JUDY





From: Marcie 
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Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 12:38:35 AM
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can be his 
newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed. Doesn't hurt 
but 
looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?

Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then "go 
check 
with your group".

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[CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2011-05-08 Thread Marcie
I've been on Gleevec since March '09, should let Zavie know that I can  
be his newest member of the zero club. But tonight I got an eye bleed.  
Doesn't hurt but looks awful. Anyone have any info on what to expect?


Thanks, dear friends. Even my wonderful doctor says every now and then  
"go check with your group".


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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2011-03-29 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
Great News,
Keep on keeping on.
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 3/20/2011 10:19:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
maggy...@bellsouth.net writes:

 
I've been off Gleevac for about 1.5 years now, due to eye  bleeds.   My 
Philadelphia Chromosone indicator (level) was/is 0.07  up from 6 months ago 
when it was 0.012.  In a month they will recheck and  then decide if I need to 
be on anything.


 

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Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 9:29:56  AM
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye  bleeds

I've been on Gleevec for eleven years and began to have  occasional eye 
bleeds about six years ago.  This lasted for a short time  and then stopped.  
Now I'll have perhaps one eye bleed a year and count  myself lucky.  I was 
unaware that a few people were having bleeding in  the brain and am not 
certain if this is from Gleevec or from Tasigna.   It's unspoken but true that 
everyone who takes a new medication is a test  subject and that every side 
effect that can occur does not necessarily show up  while a drug is in first 
and 
second stage testing.  But we have to give  kudos to Dr. Druker for having 
more or less solved our problem by  attempting to block the molecular 
expression of it.  His approach is  being used on other cancers: I believe 
there's 
even a new melanoma drug that  uses the same technique.  
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Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds

2011-03-21 Thread Martin Gartenberg
Dear Susan,

First, this is not a stem cell transplant. What it consists of are having a
blood draw every morning for the first week, for seven days. I then had to
go back in the afternoon as soon as the results were done and then I
received two injections of Nupogen, one in each arm. The next morning I
would go back and have the usual blood draw then wait until the afternoon
and go back and if my white cell count was below 60,000 then I would get the
two Nupogen injections.

This went on for the first week and the second week was a "rest period" with
only getting blood tests on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. This would
alternate for six weeks, and since there were three times that my white cell
count came close to 60,000 I had to make up the missed six injections over
the next three days, for a total of 42 injections.

What this did was to stimulate the three different kinds of stem cells in my
body by stimulating the white cells to grow like I was having Leukemia but
the white cells were being manufactured as mature cells unlike having
Leukemia.

I did have a lot of bone pain especially in my sternum and pelvis the first
week and sometimes as well. Also had some terrible chills and sometimes I
had a low grade fever.

Since this is considered an experimental procedure insurance did not cover
any of it. I had to pay for everything myself, and it was very expensive.

To answer your question about type one Diabetes, yes, this doctor had one
person that I know of that had type one and it did help him as well.

GOD bless you Susan Zimmerman (That is how I write HIS name rather then the
usual g-d because this is how I show my respect to HIM) I am traditionally
different, but still the same, if you know what I mean...

Marty Gartenberg

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

> Dear Marty,
>
>  Is this stem cell transplant available for type 1 diabetes patients?
>
>  Susan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Gartenberg 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2011 5:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds
>
>  Dear Susan,
>
> I am so happy for you being off of Gleevec and doing quite well. I hope
> that this goes on for you for many, many years.
>
> I will pray for your mother-in-law to at least have an easy time of it, and
> that her suffering is very little.
>
> You do know that you are her guardian angel...
>
> *18's* to you both.
>
> Marty
>
>  On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Susan Zimmerman wrote:
>
>>  Dear Marty,
>> You've really got a handle on it!   And I clear my throat to you, as well!
>>  Things with mother-in-law are
>> getting toward the hospice house decisionshe can't get free of pain.
>>  Thanks for caring.  Yes, G_d is really
>> watching over us all, including you!  He will go to great lengths to have
>> fellowship with us.
>>
>>  You are so right about the practice of medicine.  I urge everyone to
>> listen to their body, take a leap of faith
>> and give yourself a gleevec vacation*if you are in molecular
>> remission.*  A slight change in your log reduction is no big deal,
>> believe me.  I've been off the med for four years now, and still functioning
>> well with no gleevec.  Every
>> day I am thankful for each moment.
>>
>>  18's to you all,  (LIFE)
>> Susan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Martin Gartenberg 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:49 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>>
>>  And hi again Susan,
>>
>> I can understand your concerns about all of these drugs. However it seems
>> that you are doing quite well without any of them. Now that is really good
>> news.
>>
>>  Yes a diet and eating the right kinds of foods will certainly help with
>> diabetes if you are type two. In fact the stem cell doctor would not do the
>> therapy unless I lost some weight, so I did.
>>
>> You also have to remember that medicine is called a practice because that
>> is exactly what it is. One thing might not effect someone while it could
>> effect someone else. You are correct because you know your body better then
>> anyone else.
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. You are a very good person
>> for taking care of her when you have your own problems. GOD watches over
>> these things and I know that HE is blessing you.
>>
>> Susan, *18* in the Hebrew language is the symbol for life and it is
>> spoken as "CHI". It is pronounced like your clearing your throat.
>>
>>  *18's* to you Susan.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>  On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:33 P

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds

2011-03-21 Thread Susan Zimmerman
Dear Marty,


Is this stem cell transplant available for type 1 diabetes patients?  


Susan





-Original Message-
From: Martin Gartenberg 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2011 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds


Dear Susan,
 
I am so happy for you being off of Gleevec and doing quite well. I hope that 
this goes on for you for many, many years.
 
I will pray for your mother-in-law to at least have an easy time of it, and 
that her suffering is very little.
 
You do know that you are her guardian angel...
 
18's to you both.
 
Marty 


On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

Dear Marty,
You've really got a handle on it!   And I clear my throat to you, as well!  
Things with mother-in-law are
getting toward the hospice house decisionshe can't get free of pain.  
Thanks for caring.  Yes, G_d is really
watching over us all, including you!  He will go to great lengths to have 
fellowship with us.


You are so right about the practice of medicine.  I urge everyone to listen to 
their body, take a leap of faith
and give yourself a gleevec vacationif you are in molecular remission.  A 
slight change in your log reduction is no big deal, believe me.  I've been off 
the med for four years now, and still functioning well with no gleevec.  Every
day I am thankful for each moment.


18's to you all,  (LIFE)
Susan







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From: Martin Gartenberg 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function


And hi again Susan,
 
I can understand your concerns about all of these drugs. However it seems that 
you are doing quite well without any of them. Now that is really good news.
 
Yes a diet and eating the right kinds of foods will certainly help with 
diabetes if you are type two. In fact the stem cell doctor would not do the 
therapy unless I lost some weight, so I did. 
 
You also have to remember that medicine is called a practice because that is 
exactly what it is. One thing might not effect someone while it could effect 
someone else. You are correct because you know your body better then anyone 
else.
 
I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. You are a very good person for 
taking care of her when you have your own problems. GOD watches over these 
things and I know that HE is blessing you.
 
Susan, 18 in the Hebrew language is the symbol for life and it is spoken as 
"CHI". It is pronounced like your clearing your throat.
 
18's to you Susan.
 
Marty


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

Hi again Marty,


I found a match for a bone marrow transplant, my own sister Sandy.  Butthey 
advised using either gleevec, sprycel, or the third one...I am going against my 
doc's suggestions to be on sprycel, because of the high risk factor of another 
brain bleed.  I had one dose of tasigna...(can't remember the other name) after 
going thru the hoops to get in a test group before it was legal.  It gave me 
another bad eye bleed, so I knew it was related to the drugs.  So from that I 
am enjoying no drugs for almost four years, ptl.  I see that with this stem 
cell therapy I would not be a candidate as I am not in molecular remission 
(thru the BCR/ABL test).  I am over 1.0 now on the log of testing with BCR/ABL, 
and am keeping my fingers crossed that I stay in cellular remission awhile 
longer.  I am so blessed by God that I cannot express how very much He blesses 
me!  Staying in the Word is my greatest help.

I understand there is a third generation drug being tested and released soon.  
That is bosatinib, and I am hoping I can last til that comes out before needing 
something.  Surely that one won't have so many dreadful side effects!  Plural 
effusion with sprycel for so many makes me very leery of it.  Actually, perhaps 
I will never need one!  Right now I am taking care of my mother-in-law who is 
dying of lung cancer, and so all my energies are on that.  God knows!  


I am so thankful you received a healing from the diabetes thru that method.  If 
I will be obedient on eating habits I can get rid of it, too, without 
mortgaging my house again, lol.  I am not on insulin, just pills.  


It is truly a great testimony to all that going off gleevec after reaching 
total remission about 9 months after beginning it, that  gleevec vacations are 
very very possible to rid yourself of all side affects for awhile.  Each one is 
different, so go with your own knowledge of your body.  Some of these doctors 
know just a little more than we do about how gleevec and all of them work...




What does 18 mean?
Susan
(Indiana)




-Original Message-
From: Martin Gartenberg 
To: cmlhope 



Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 10:15 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function


Hi Susan,
 
I am sorry to hear about your brain bleed and the stroke that you had. Who 
really knows if it was or wasn't caused by the Gleevec? The thing is tha

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds

2011-03-20 Thread Martin Gartenberg
Dear Susan,

I am so happy for you being off of Gleevec and doing quite well. I hope that
this goes on for you for many, many years.

I will pray for your mother-in-law to at least have an easy time of it, and
that her suffering is very little.

You do know that you are her guardian angel...

*18's* to you both.

Marty

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

> Dear Marty,
> You've really got a handle on it!   And I clear my throat to you, as well!
>  Things with mother-in-law are
> getting toward the hospice house decisionshe can't get free of pain.
>  Thanks for caring.  Yes, G_d is really
> watching over us all, including you!  He will go to great lengths to have
> fellowship with us.
>
>  You are so right about the practice of medicine.  I urge everyone to
> listen to their body, take a leap of faith
> and give yourself a gleevec vacation*if you are in molecular
> remission.*  A slight change in your log reduction is no big deal,
> believe me.  I've been off the med for four years now, and still functioning
> well with no gleevec.  Every
> day I am thankful for each moment.
>
>  18's to you all,  (LIFE)
> Susan
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Gartenberg 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>
>  And hi again Susan,
>
> I can understand your concerns about all of these drugs. However it seems
> that you are doing quite well without any of them. Now that is really good
> news.
>
>  Yes a diet and eating the right kinds of foods will certainly help with
> diabetes if you are type two. In fact the stem cell doctor would not do the
> therapy unless I lost some weight, so I did.
>
> You also have to remember that medicine is called a practice because that
> is exactly what it is. One thing might not effect someone while it could
> effect someone else. You are correct because you know your body better then
> anyone else.
>
> I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. You are a very good person for
> taking care of her when you have your own problems. GOD watches over these
> things and I know that HE is blessing you.
>
> Susan, *18* in the Hebrew language is the symbol for life and it is spoken
> as "CHI". It is pronounced like your clearing your throat.
>
>  *18's* to you Susan.
>
> Marty
>
>  On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Susan Zimmerman wrote:
>
>> Hi again Marty,
>>
>>  I found a match for a bone marrow transplant, my own sister Sandy.
>>  Butthey advised using either gleevec, sprycel, or the third one...I am
>> going against my doc's suggestions to be on sprycel, because of the high
>> risk factor of another brain bleed.  I had one dose of tasigna...(can't
>> remember the other name) after going thru the hoops to get in a test group
>> before it was legal.  It gave me another bad eye bleed, so I knew it was
>> related to the drugs.  So from that I am enjoying no drugs for almost four
>> years, ptl.  I see that with this stem cell therapy I would not be a
>> candidate as I am not in molecular remission (thru the BCR/ABL test).  I am
>> over 1.0 now on the log of testing with BCR/ABL, and am keeping my fingers
>> crossed that I stay in cellular remission awhile longer.  I am so blessed by
>> God that I cannot express how very much He blesses me!  Staying in the Word
>> is my greatest help.
>>
>> I understand there is a third generation drug being tested and released
>> soon.  That is bosatinib, and I am hoping I can last til that comes out
>> before needing something.  Surely that one won't have so many dreadful side
>> effects!  Plural effusion with sprycel for so many makes me very leery of
>> it.  Actually, perhaps I will never need one!  Right now I am taking care of
>> my mother-in-law who is dying of lung cancer, and so all my energies are on
>> that.  God knows!
>>
>>  I am so thankful you received a healing from the diabetes thru that
>> method.  If I will be obedient on eating habits I can get rid of it, too,
>> without mortgaging my house again, lol.  I am not on insulin, just pills.
>>
>>  It is truly a great testimony to all that going *off* gleevec after
>> reaching total remission about 9 months after beginning it, that  gleevec
>> vacations are very very possible to rid yourself of all side affects for
>> awhile.  Each one is different, so go with your own knowledge of your body.
>>  Some of these doctors know just a little more than we do about how gleevec
>> and all of them work...
>>
>>
>>  What does 18 mean?
>> Susan
>> (Indiana)
>>
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: Martin Gartenberg 
>> To: cmlhope 
>>   Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 10:15 am
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>>
>>  Hi Susan,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your brain bleed and the stroke that you had. Who
>> really knows if it was or wasn't caused by the Gleevec? The thing is that
>> your alive and in  cellular remission without any Gleevec. Remarkable! I
>> know that there is a guardian angel looking o

Re: [CMLHope] eye bleeds and brain bleeds

2011-03-20 Thread Susan Zimmerman

Dear Marty,
You've really got a handle on it!   And I clear my throat to you, as well!  
Things with mother-in-law are
getting toward the hospice house decisionshe can't get free of pain.  
Thanks for caring.  Yes, G_d is really
watching over us all, including you!  He will go to great lengths to have 
fellowship with us.


You are so right about the practice of medicine.  I urge everyone to listen to 
their body, take a leap of faith
and give yourself a gleevec vacationif you are in molecular remission.  A 
slight change in your log reduction is no big deal, believe me.  I've been off 
the med for four years now, and still functioning well with no gleevec.  Every
day I am thankful for each moment.


18's to you all,  (LIFE)
Susan







-Original Message-
From: Martin Gartenberg 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function


And hi again Susan,
 
I can understand your concerns about all of these drugs. However it seems that 
you are doing quite well without any of them. Now that is really good news.
 
Yes a diet and eating the right kinds of foods will certainly help with 
diabetes if you are type two. In fact the stem cell doctor would not do the 
therapy unless I lost some weight, so I did. 
 
You also have to remember that medicine is called a practice because that is 
exactly what it is. One thing might not effect someone while it could effect 
someone else. You are correct because you know your body better then anyone 
else.
 
I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. You are a very good person for 
taking care of her when you have your own problems. GOD watches over these 
things and I know that HE is blessing you.
 
Susan, 18 in the Hebrew language is the symbol for life and it is spoken as 
"CHI". It is pronounced like your clearing your throat.
 
18's to you Susan.
 
Marty


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Susan Zimmerman  wrote:

Hi again Marty,


I found a match for a bone marrow transplant, my own sister Sandy.  Butthey 
advised using either gleevec, sprycel, or the third one...I am going against my 
doc's suggestions to be on sprycel, because of the high risk factor of another 
brain bleed.  I had one dose of tasigna...(can't remember the other name) after 
going thru the hoops to get in a test group before it was legal.  It gave me 
another bad eye bleed, so I knew it was related to the drugs.  So from that I 
am enjoying no drugs for almost four years, ptl.  I see that with this stem 
cell therapy I would not be a candidate as I am not in molecular remission 
(thru the BCR/ABL test).  I am over 1.0 now on the log of testing with BCR/ABL, 
and am keeping my fingers crossed that I stay in cellular remission awhile 
longer.  I am so blessed by God that I cannot express how very much He blesses 
me!  Staying in the Word is my greatest help.

I understand there is a third generation drug being tested and released soon.  
That is bosatinib, and I am hoping I can last til that comes out before needing 
something.  Surely that one won't have so many dreadful side effects!  Plural 
effusion with sprycel for so many makes me very leery of it.  Actually, perhaps 
I will never need one!  Right now I am taking care of my mother-in-law who is 
dying of lung cancer, and so all my energies are on that.  God knows!  


I am so thankful you received a healing from the diabetes thru that method.  If 
I will be obedient on eating habits I can get rid of it, too, without 
mortgaging my house again, lol.  I am not on insulin, just pills.  


It is truly a great testimony to all that going off gleevec after reaching 
total remission about 9 months after beginning it, that  gleevec vacations are 
very very possible to rid yourself of all side affects for awhile.  Each one is 
different, so go with your own knowledge of your body.  Some of these doctors 
know just a little more than we do about how gleevec and all of them work...




What does 18 mean?
Susan
(Indiana)




-Original Message-
From: Martin Gartenberg 
To: cmlhope 



Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 10:15 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function


Hi Susan,
 
I am sorry to hear about your brain bleed and the stroke that you had. Who 
really knows if it was or wasn't caused by the Gleevec? The thing is that your 
alive and in  cellular remission without any Gleevec. Remarkable! I know that 
there is a guardian angel looking over you.
 
As far as the stem cell therapy goes, it does work for diabetes but since it is 
not yet approved I had to pay out of pocket for it. It was very expensive and I 
had to get a second mortgage on my home, but it was worth it.
 
Before I was to start it I had to be in ABL-BCR and I was. I wonder if it could 
also help with CML? I couldn't even venture a guess but the way I see it is 
that why would I first have to be tested for ABL-BCR, and I asked my stem cell 
doctor. He told me that if there were any active cancer still lurking around 
then the stem cell th

Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2011-03-20 Thread maggy...@bellsouth.net
I've been off Gleevac for about 1.5 years now, due to eye bleeds.   My 
Philadelphia Chromosone indicator (level) was/is 0.07 up from 6 months ago when 
it was 0.012.  In a month they will recheck and then decide if I need to be on 
anything.





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Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 9:29:56 AM
Subject: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds

I've been on Gleevec for eleven years and began to have occasional eye bleeds 
about six years ago.  This lasted for a short time and then stopped.  Now I'll 
have perhaps one eye bleed a year and count myself lucky.  I was unaware that a 
few people were having bleeding in the brain and am not certain if this is from 
Gleevec or from Tasigna.  It's unspoken but true that everyone who takes a new 
medication is a test subject and that every side effect that can occur does not 
necessarily show up while a drug is in first and second stage testing.  But we 
have to give kudos to Dr. Druker for having more or less solved our problem by 
attempting to block the molecular expression of it.  His approach is being used 
on other cancers: I believe there's even a new melanoma drug that uses the same 
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2011-03-20 Thread Victoria Reiter
I've been on Gleevec for eleven years and began to have occasional eye
bleeds about six years ago.  This lasted for a short time and then stopped.
Now I'll have perhaps one eye bleed a year and count myself lucky.  I was
unaware that a few people were having bleeding in the brain and am not
certain if this is from Gleevec or from Tasigna.  It's unspoken but true
that everyone who takes a new medication is a test subject and that every
side effect that can occur does not necessarily show up while a drug is in
first and second stage testing.  But we have to give kudos to Dr. Druker for
having more or less solved our problem by attempting to block the molecular
expression of it.  His approach is being used on other cancers: I believe
there's even a new melanoma drug that uses the same technique.

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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-16 Thread Myvety2k
Eye bleeds.  When we lived in a condo that had soft water  I would get eye 
bleeds.  I think it was because I would try and remove the  water from my 
eye lids.  Soft water makes the skin very slippery and I  would press hard to 
remove the water. Something to think about.   Greenie
 
 
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vgar...@doglover.com writes:

 
I have had eye bleeds for years. For me they seem to come in clusters.  One 
time I had 4-5 in one month. I remember one time I had two in two days.  
Right now I can't remember how long it's been since I've had one--a long time  
for sure. Maybe a year or more. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or 
reason  to it. My ophthalmologist says not to worry. I've had some really  good 
deep solid red ones that elicit lots of sympathy from lots of  people!
 
 





-Original  Message-
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To:  CMLHope@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:19 aco
Subject:  [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

  

I am having more frequent eye bleeds now, and would like to know how many  
of you have had this side effect and how often you have them.  I am on  400 
mg Gleevec a day and have been in remission October, 2009.
 
Thank you in advance for any info you can give me.
 
Take care, ya'll,
Sandy Byrd





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RE: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread Tony Lanoue
I've 2 in 5 years.

  _  

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I've been on  300 mg Gleevec since Jan. 2001 and have never yet had an eye
bleed. 
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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread ANGELYN ESDERS
I've been on  300 mg Gleevec since Jan. 2001 and have never yet had an eye 
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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread DAWN RODEGHIER
Hi Sandy,  I've been on 400 mg of Gleevic since it was approved in 2001 and 
have had many eye bleeds.  Once it was the entire white part of my right eye 
and that was the only one that I new was Coming I felt a stabbing pain in that 
eye.  They come and they go away, some times it takes several days to 
dissipate, others they are gone the next day!    I wish you well!   Jim 
Rodeghier 

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Sandy Byrd  wrote:


From: Sandy Byrd 
Subject: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS
To: CMLHope@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 1:19 PM
























Dear Warriors
 
I am having more frequent eye bleeds now, and would like to know how many of 
you have had this side effect and how often you have them.  I am on 400 mg 
Gleevec a day and have been in remission October, 2009.
 
Thank you in advance for any info you can give me.
 
Take care, ya'll,
Sandy Byrd



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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread Bkbarney
HI Sandy,
 
I have had two eye bleeds while on Gleevec and one on Tasigna. I am 
grateful they are not too badI did go to the eye doc and she reassured me 
that 
no damage was donegood luck to you..Beth

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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread C.M. Houtz
Hi, When I was on Gleevec I had lots of eye bleeds and now that I'm on Tasigna, 
I don't have them.  My doctors were concerned and I had my eye doctor check 
them all of the time.  I was on as much as 800 mg. of Gleevec, so I did have 
lots, but not as many as you had, Virginia.  I'm thankful I'm not getting them 
any longer.  These side effects are not fun, but, as I told my husband a few 
minutes ago, what are our choices?  We put up with whatever they are, and try 
to handle them.  Not much else we can do.  I feel lucky that I haven't had more 
on Tasigna...very fortunate.  You all take care...Millie
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS


  I have had eye bleeds for years. For me they seem to come in clusters. One 
time I had 4-5 in one month. I remember one time I had two in two days. Right 
now I can't remember how long it's been since I've had one--a long time for 
sure. Maybe a year or more. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. 
My ophthalmologist says not to worry. I've had some really good deep solid red 
ones that elicit lots of sympathy from lots of people!





  -Original Message-
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  To: CMLHope@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:19 am
  Subject: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS



  I am having more frequent eye bleeds now, and would like to know how many of 
you have had this side effect and how often you have them.  I am on 400 mg 
Gleevec a day and have been in remission October, 2009.

  Thank you in advance for any info you can give me.

  Take care, ya'll,
  Sandy Byrd
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Re: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread Virginia Garner

I have had eye bleeds for years. For me they seem to come in clusters. One time 
I had 4-5 in one month. I remember one time I had two in two days. Right now I 
can't remember how long it's been since I've had one--a long time for sure. 
Maybe a year or more. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. My 
ophthalmologist says not to worry. I've had some really good deep solid red 
ones that elicit lots of sympathy from lots of people!
 

 




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To: CMLHope@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:19 am
Subject: [CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS














Dear Warriors
 
I am having more frequent eye bleeds now, and would like to know how many of 
you have had this side effect and how often you have them.  I am on 400 mg 
Gleevec a day and have been in remission October, 2009.
 
Thank you in advance for any info you can give me.
 
Take care, ya'll,
Sandy Byrd











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[CMLHope] EYE BLEEDS

2010-09-15 Thread Sandy Byrd
Dear Warriors

I am having more frequent eye bleeds now, and would like to know how many of 
you 
have had this side effect and how often you have them.  I am on 400 mg Gleevec 
a 
day and have been in remission October, 2009.

Thank you in advance for any info you can give me.

Take care, ya'll,
Sandy Byrd

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Re: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-25 Thread TEDBDD
I take mine with lots of water with food.  Have had no problems.   All the 
best on your journey.  My bothersome side effect is Peripheral  Neuropathy.  
So far it hasn't affected my balance and it is not  painful...so we will 
hope for the best.  Here is to a great new year for  all of us on this CML 
car!  Tom in Ky
 
 
In a message dated 12/25/2009 8:59:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
icandoall...@aol.com writes:

 
Yes Sprycell is much easier than the other drugs to take, but I still  take 
it with food although you don't have to, and my doctor told me it is a  lot 
different than the other cml drugs.Good luck and let us know how you are  
doing.
Jeanie<3
 
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maggy...@bellsouth.net writes:

Spyrecel easy to take with or without food?   that's a huge plus.  I 
couldn't seem to eat enough befoer taking  Gleevac, horrible nausea. 




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Re: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-25 Thread icandoallttc
 
Yes Sprycell is much easier than the other drugs to take, but I still take  
it with food although you don't have to, and my doctor told me it is a lot  
different than the other cml drugs.Good luck and let us know how you are  
doing.
Jeanie<3
 
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Spyrecel easy to take with or without food?  that's  a huge plus.  I 
couldn't seem to eat enough befoer taking Gleevac,  horrible nausea. 



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Re: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-13 Thread maggy...@bellsouth.net
Spyrecel easy to take with or without food?  that's a huge plus.  I couldn't 
seem to eat enough befoer taking Gleevac, horrible nausea.    

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Good luck on your journey into the world of Sprycell-it has a lot less side 
effects than Gleevec, at least for me it does.  it's easy to take-with our 
without food.
Let us know how you feel on it-I do have headaches and nasal problems.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
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wow,  no meds for 2.5 years after gleevac stopped.    I had a fantastic 
response to the Gleevac, immediately knocked my WBC from 128,000 down to 4.7 
thousand now.   Been off Gleevac for 2 weeks and he's going to start me on 
Spyrecel which I have to pick up at the cancer center, not the pharmacy.  He 
said he didn't understand why.  Anyway, my last couple BCR-ABL was 0.000.  
Gleevac level was 1500, normal is anything above 1500 per hematologist but due 
to eye bleeds (bilateral) he said no more Gleevac.    Best of luck to you and 
may you continue to remain in cytogenic remission.

 
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Re: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-12 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
 
Good luck on your journey into the world of Sprycell-it has a lot less side 
 effects than Gleevec, at least for me it does.  it's easy to take-with our 
 without food.
Let us know how you feel on it-I do have headaches and nasal  problems.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
In a message dated 12/10/2009 11:05:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
maggy...@bellsouth.net writes:

wow,  no meds for 2.5 years after gleevac  stopped.I had a fantastic 
response to the Gleevac,  immediately knocked my WBC from 128,000 down to 4.7 
thousand  now.   Been off Gleevac for 2 weeks and he's going to start me  on 
Spyrecel which I have to pick up at the cancer center, not the  pharmacy.  
He said he didn't understand why.  Anyway, my last  couple BCR-ABL was 
0.000.  Gleevac level was 1500, normal is  anything above 1500 per 
hematologist but due to eye bleeds (bilateral)  he said no more Gleevac.
Best of 
luck to you and may  you continue to remain in cytogenic  remission.


 

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Re: [CMLHope] Eye bleeds and no gleevec

2009-12-11 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
 
Hi Susan,
I go to Moffitt also-see Dr Balducci-I really like him.
I am on 100 mgs of Sprycell and my blood is already back to normal.
Good luck,
Jeanie<3
 
In a message dated 12/10/2009 2:23:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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For Tony, yes my counts are slowly rising,  have about 40% leukemic cells 
in my blood now but still in  cytogenetic
remission.  I try to go as natural as possible with eating  and supplements 
and also have a biofeedback machine
called a SCIO machine  which treats me weekly for leukemia.  I think that 
has helped keep the  counts down a lot
longer than what the doctor predicted.  He said no  more than six months 
and I would be out of control.hahahaha
proved him  wrong.  I treasure every day with no medicine, but am 
encouraged about  sprycel having fewer side effects.
They do a fish test every 2 months now  on me.  Last July I showed about 
27% leukemic cells, and now it's  40%.  
I am keeping Dr. Javier Panilla in my back pocket from Tampa's  Moffitt 
Center.  He is the greatest, but am seeing
someone locally in  Orlando now while I'm off medicine.  Everyone have a 
wonderful, lovely  Christmas!  God bless you
and keep on fighting!

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[CMLHope] Eye bleeds and no gleevec

2009-12-10 Thread rszim0702
For Tony, yes my counts are slowly rising, have about 40% leukemic cells in my 
blood now but still in cytogenetic
remission.  I try to go as natural as possible with eating and supplements and 
also have a biofeedback machine
called a SCIO machine which treats me weekly for leukemia.  I think that has 
helped keep the counts down a lot
longer than what the doctor predicted.  He said no more than six months and I 
would be out of control.hahahaha
proved him wrong.  I treasure every day with no medicine, but am encouraged 
about sprycel having fewer side effects.
They do a fish test every 2 months now on me.  Last July I showed about 27% 
leukemic cells, and now it's 40%.  
I am keeping Dr. Javier Panilla in my back pocket from Tampa's Moffitt Center.  
He is the greatest, but am seeing
someone locally in Orlando now while I'm off medicine.  Everyone have a 
wonderful, lovely Christmas!  God bless you
and keep on fighting!

Susan Zimmerman

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RE: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-10 Thread maggy...@bellsouth.net
wow,  no meds for 2.5 years after gleevac stopped.    I had a fantastic 
response to the Gleevac, immediately knocked my WBC from 128,000 down to 4.7 
thousand now.   Been off Gleevac for 2 weeks and he's going to start me on 
Spyrecel which I have to pick up at the cancer center, not the pharmacy.  He 
said he didn't understand why.  Anyway, my last couple BCR-ABL was 0.000.  
Gleevac level was 1500, normal is anything above 1500 per hematologist but due 
to eye bleeds (bilateral) he said no more Gleevac.    Best of luck to you and 
may you continue to remain in cytogenic remission.

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2 1/2 years on nothing are your counts stable or are they slowly rising, 
because maybe the Gleevec did cure you, it has in some.Please keep us posted.
Tony



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Thanks for the post, Maggie May regarding eye bleeds.  I had 2 1/2 yrs on 
gleevec after diagnosis on Feb 14, 2005. Then a brain bleed with many eye 
bleeds beforehand caused me to stop.  I have been on nothing for 2 1/2 more 
years, still in cytogenetic remission, but soon will have to go back to 
something unless God intervenes, which is entirely possible.   We are choosing 
sprycel when the time comes.  Let me know how it goes for you!

Susan Zimmerman 

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RE: [Possible Spam][CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-09 Thread Tony Lanoue
2 1/2 years on nothing are your counts stable or are they slowly rising,
because maybe the Gleevec did cure you, it has in some.Please keep us
posted.
Tony

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Thanks for the post, Maggie May regarding eye bleeds.  I had 2 1/2 yrs on
gleevec after diagnosis on Feb 14, 2005. Then a brain bleed with many eye
bleeds beforehand caused me to stop.  I have been on nothing for 2 1/2 more
years, still in cytogenetic remission, but soon will have to go back to
something unless God intervenes, which is entirely possible.   We are
choosing sprycel when the time comes.  Let me know how it goes for you!

Susan Zimmerman 


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[CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-12-09 Thread rszim0702
Thanks for the post, Maggie May regarding eye bleeds.  I had 2 1/2 yrs on 
gleevec after diagnosis on Feb 14, 2005. Then a brain bleed with many eye 
bleeds beforehand caused me to stop.  I have been on nothing for 2 1/2 more 
years, still in cytogenetic remission, but soon will have to go back to 
something unless God intervenes, which is entirely possible.   We are choosing 
sprycel when the time comes.  Let me know how it goes for you!

Susan Zimmerman 

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[CMLHope] Eye bleeds

2009-06-08 Thread rszim0702
Dear Gay,

Thank you for the tip on bilberry extractI will get on it right away!

Susan

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[CMLHope] eye bleeds

2009-06-06 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
 
Yes, eyebleeds caused by Gleevec, listed as one of the side  effects.
Not serious but very scary.
Blessings
Jeanie<3
 
 
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Hi  Susie Q,

Interesting we go by the same here...:) :)

Yes to the  eye bleeds.had it happen twice in the same eye with a
matter of three  weeks.  The second time was horrible and went to the
eye doctor but he  said it was nothing serious and would clear up on
it's own.  I happen  to see the oncologist/hematologist at the same
time and she told me that if  it happend again that soon, to call and
they would set me up with one of  their ophthalmologist that a blood
vessel might need to be cartorized. (not  sure about the spelling).
But I've had no more problems like that in the  five & half years I've
been on Gleevec,  but it is a side effect  according to the paperwork
from Novartis.  My eye doctor put it in my  file:)  My eye doctor
says normally people have eye bleeds because  of stress, heavy lifting,
or high blood pressureof which none of  those pertained to me
at that time, so I showed him the list of side  effects and he included
them in my records.

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[CMLHope] eye bleeds

2009-06-04 Thread ICANDOALLTTC
 
Hi Susie Q, yes I've had the eyebleeds.
Actually just one but it scared me.
It cleared up right away and didn't hurt at all.
Do you mean your platelets are high.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
There is Moffit Cancer Center in Tampa and Orlando has a  cancer center 
also.  
Good luck,
 
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I remember them fondly..even though  I'm off gleevec now due to a brain 
bleed, when I did
have the spasms the  remedy is quinine, either pills or water, but it 
works!!  Also keep up  with
the calcium intake, it helps when you can't find  quinine.

Anyone else ever have any eye bleeds or brain bleed from  gleevec?  It's my 
platelets, and I 
must find an excellent  hematologist in the Central Florida area.  Anyone 
know of any?
The  regular onc/hematologists do not know enough, I need a  specialist.

Thanks, warriors!
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[CMLHope] Eye Bleeds

2006-03-20 Thread Penny

Hello everyone,

I am having a terrible time with eyebleeds.
The white of my right eye is covered in blood.
It looks frightening and is very embarrassing!

Is anyone else having this problem?

I am on 200 mg of Gleevec and doing very well:)

My best to everyone.

Penny


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