Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker
I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker
It is no more of a hassle to fly a symmetrical chute on a 29 than it is on the J-24 (I have a 30-1 that I race every now and then and race on a J-24 each week). It is just bigger. You will probably need an additional person (we use 5 on the 30 and 4 on the 24). An adjustable spin track on the mast would be useful. The inner stay can be made to be easily disconnected. If the boat doesn't have a pole, track, extra winches, then you could consider one of those deck mounted extendable poles and fly an asymmetrical chute. It is interestingthe PHRF for a 29 is most likely higher numerically than the J-24. Around here, the 24 is 171 and a 29 is around 180. But, it is a lot more cruising friendly and powerful. Gary 30-1, J-24 on Friday, J-80 on Wednesday - Original Message - From: Pbbother via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker
It's not a problem but I think it will be more effort and more powerful than the J24 but maybe not as fast as the J24. Most of the 29's I have seen use a triradial cut 180% kite with pole and downhaul and most also do end for end jibes...very pretty boat and lots of fun when flying downwind -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pbbother via CnC-List Sent: July 19, 2014 11:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7846 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker
I raced on a 29-2 with a symmetricl chute. It did not hve a baby stay. I have a baby stay on my 35-3 and have used it once upwind into a sea. Otherwise it is clipped near the base of the mast. Joel On Saturday, July 19, 2014, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It's not a problem but I think it will be more effort and more powerful than the J24 but maybe not as fast as the J24. Most of the 29's I have seen use a triradial cut 180% kite with pole and downhaul and most also do end for end jibes...very pretty boat and lots of fun when flying downwind -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Pbbother via CnC-List Sent: July 19, 2014 11:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:; Subject: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:; To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7846 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:; To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker
We have a baby stay on our CC 32 and regularly use it going to weather in more than about 10 kts of wind as it helps bend the mast and therefore flatten the main. Ours is attached to a track on the deck and we can easily release it when off the wind of if the wind lightens. When jibing the chute I make sure it is at my back when I do the jibe which keeps it out of the way when attaching the pole to the mast. We occasionally use it in light air going down wind as a fraculator. Michael Clow http://desiresailing.org/ Desire, CC 32, Lake St. Clair From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:01 PM To: dwight; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I raced on a 29-2 with a symmetricl chute. It did not hve a baby stay. I have a baby stay on my 35-3 and have used it once upwind into a sea. Otherwise it is clipped near the base of the mast. Joel On Saturday, July 19, 2014, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It's not a problem but I think it will be more effort and more powerful than the J24 but maybe not as fast as the J24. Most of the 29's I have seen use a triradial cut 180% kite with pole and downhaul and most also do end for end jibes...very pretty boat and lots of fun when flying downwind -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:; ] On Behalf Of Pbbother via CnC-List Sent: July 19, 2014 11:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:; Subject: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:; To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7846 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:; To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List C and C 29 mk 2 spinnaker
You might be interested in the CC 29 Owners Association group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/cnc29members/ Make sure you check out the tabs across the top for photos 29's with chutes, information including a boat list . Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com __/) Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 10:27:57 -0400 From: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net To: Pbbother pbbot...@gmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker Message-ID: CC5FE923206545DD87257790D6B3431D@GaryPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It is no more of a hassle to fly a symmetrical chute on a 29 than it is on the J-24 (I have a 30-1 that I race every now and then and race on a J-24 each week). It is just bigger. You will probably need an additional person (we use 5 on the 30 and 4 on the 24). An adjustable spin track on the mast would be useful. The inner stay can be made to be easily disconnected. If the boat doesn't have a pole, track, extra winches, then you could consider one of those deck mounted extendable poles and fly an asymmetrical chute. It is interestingthe PHRF for a 29 is most likely higher numerically than the J-24. Around here, the 24 is 171 and a 29 is around 180. But, it is a lot more cruising friendly and powerful. Gary 30-1, J-24 on Friday, J-80 on Wednesday - Original Message - From: Pbbother via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: Stus-List CC 29-2 Spinnaker I am considering buying a CC 29-2 (1983) and would like to know how/if a symmetrical spinnaker would work on these boats. I am looking at a boat nearby, but it only has a cruising asymmetrical spinnaker. My current boat is a J/24 and I am looking for something a little more comfortable but also performance oriented. Since I have a crew for racing on the J/24, we would also want to set a spinnaker on the CC. The problem is the baby/inner stay that bisects the fore deck. Yes, I understand that we could disconnect it for the downwind leg, but that seems to be added complexity that I would rather avoid. The concern that I have is that the only photo of a symmetrical spinnaker I can find on the WEB is the original sales brochure. So, I am thinking its just a big hassle to fly a symmetrical on these boats. Any thoughts? -Ken ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
